This woman gets crazier and crazier. I can not believe that she was unthruthful on national tv. So now we find out she does get government assistance (food stamps, disability etc.). These eight babies deserve a better life. Nadya Suleman is dullusional.
Why does a woman that needs assistance and has 6 now 14 kids, have the extra time or money to go get her nails done?
Funny! I was totally thinking the same thing. I'm pregnant and have 3 kids, and I'm lucky if I have time to shower after meeting the needs of my 3 children. Get my nails done...yeah right.
And that's with a loving and supportive husband backing me up every step of the way. Any money she makes on book deals had better go to paying off the hospital bills. The government will end up pulling the kids out of that home when it's proven she's incapable of taking care of them.
I hope there is investigation from Los Angeles County on this psycho. Those children do not belong with her. Everthing is all about her. Wonder where she got the money to inflate her lips. Her priorities are all wrong.
Poor excuse for a mother. Draining tax payers dollars for this is nonsense. I am so disappointed in the Today show for even puttting her on television. They are giving her exactly what she wanted attention at the expense of her children
This woman is out for one person's interest, and one alone ... hers. She doesn't care about children beyond being a source of "paper," as in money. As a hard-working taxpayer with a back injury from a previous job (from which I collected $0 on disability - I worked through the pain), I am tired of people like this woman, and many like her, who work the system and drain it dry. This is a fitting example of why California is in a $40 billion deficit.
For those who say the negative comments about this woman (I refuse to mention her name) is disgusting and sad, I can only say to you, call our legislators and offer donations every month to this woman for the next 18 years and then follow through with it. If you don't, you're hypocritical and would be better served thinking about your own actions.
These 14 kids are going to suffer greatly (and apparently already are) but there are millions more in this country alone that suffer more and I don't believe putting the interests of these 14 ahead of all those others is responsible or reasonable. This woman created this mess and she needs to solve it by herself.
I'm glad they're investigating the doctor, but I'm still waiting for the Disability agency to investigate this woman for fraud.
More importantly, I'm waiting for NBC to drop this trash from its news organization. Just a few more steps and I'm permanently heading to ABC or CNN.
I can't imagine a fertility clinic implanting a woman who already had 6 children, who has no husband, who is on welfare, and who has 3 children of her children receiving disability. Fertility treatment is NOT cheap, did she put down in money up front? If she had that kind of money, how could she be on food stamps? There is so much to this story that is yet to be uncovered! Is she sleeping with the fertility doc or blackmailing him/her?
Regardless of how she managed to convince the fertility clinic she should be once again receive IVF, she is in no mental state to raise 14 children. Is she a pathological liar or just very manipulative? Food stamps are not welfare? Why DOES she consider to be welfare?
Wow, this story is getting more and more bizzare. First, there was the grandfather and that so called friend who said she has money and could afford to take care of her kids. Then the mother got on national TV and say she is not receiving welfare. Now it is proven that she is indeed receiving welfare. What's next?
The state really need to take action by removing those kids from that disfunctional home.
Why are you disparaging innocent children? I can understand you not wanting to pay for their upbringing but they have done nothing to be labeled bastards because there are no bastard children - just bastard parents. Vent your anger at the mother, not the children.
1. remove all of her children to foster care
2. put this crazy female in a soft fertile place like a pile cow poop mound, use a front loader to make it deep
3.drop her in, what a foocking nutbucket, living on my dollar, very offensive
4.I am very offended
5.disgusted
6. I would suggest a new Mars space mission, she can find out if we can breathe there, prolly cost the same as how many children she spewed out for me to pay for
7. was this POS born here?
8.disgusted, very disgusted
Well apparently food stamps is no longer considered 'government aid' and neither is SSI. Last time I checked food stamps is a program funded by taxpayers dollars and administered through the government and SSI is also funded by the taxpayers and adminstered by the government. All free money she is using to live off the taxpayers of the state of California. Her college education is also being paid for by the taxpayers of California. She has a lot of nerve acting as if she is not living off of others. She is not only profitting off the taxpayers, and getting an education she is living off her children. She is also guaranteed on Medical for her and her childrens health care.........also paid for by the taxpayers of California. She I am sure also will not consider the money she will get from SSI for the low weight babies she has had living off the government either. This woman is the worst example of why the welfare system and the entitlement era no longer works. These programs were set up as temporary aid not to live off permanently..........unfortunately there are so many people just like her living off the rest of us. California needs to revamp welfare, and food stamps to limit the dollar amount as well as the timeframe she and others who live off it for years and years. Washington state did just that. The state was going broke paying women who lived off welfare and food stamps for their entire lives. They limit the dollar amount they give. Once you have three kids that is all the money you get........if you have more you better learn to stretch a buck. They also limit the timeframe to 2/1/2/1/1 and off. Meaning you can be on 2 years then you must be off for one full year before applying again. Then you can be on for another 2 years then must be off one year. Then you are allowed one last full year of benefits and then you are cut off. You get a total of 5 years period. So no more spending your entire adult life on welfare and then zipping off to social security.
People like this are breaking this country. This is why millions of people come here to squirt out their illegal children.........they get to live off the rest of us for free. Not to say that every illegal does this but the fact is they use the 14th amendment to have their kids be citizens........problem is that the amendment was meant for the children of slaves not every loser who can manage to sneak across the border and squirt their kid out on the hospitals dime(that is what happens......they have no social security # so the hospital can't put it on their credit report-the hospital eats the cost and it is passed on to those that pay the bills via higher medical fees).
We wonder why our country is a joke to the rest of the world. Look at this they hear about this and want to come here to live for free. No other country in the world will just let you sit on your a z z your whole life and live off the rest of the people. It is one thing to 'take care of the least of us' meaning the very old, the very young and those that are mentally or physically unable to care for themselves. It is something else altogether to foot the bill for someone who is capable of getting a job but chooses to squirt out children to avoid it and then expects to be placed on a pedestal and have her life paid for because her uterus works.
This woman is a complete disgrace to mothers and women everywhere. You should be ashamed.
Oh, so now THREE of her children are disabled. Un-f'ing-believeable. I was ready to strangle this dumb broad when I found out that one of her original SIX children was autistic, but then to learn two others are also disabled... oh, it's just too much. Please, social services, intervene and save those poor children and the helpless babies. This woman is repulsive, selfish, and mentally ill.
Winkie- try living in California and illegal mother can not get the money part of welfare for herself but her kids can she does however get to have for herself and children free medical and food stamps and the five year rule is not for illegal's as they are at a disadvantage being here illegaly and can't get a job because of that. Guess what there being illegal also helps them get housing before others too because of this disadvantage
looks like she has lip implants too, or someone punched her in the mouth...she had these babies so that she will be supported the rest of her life by the government or the royalties she knows she will get from books, movies commercials,etc. that is why she hired a spokes person right away...is she even legal in this country?
I want to hear about this Dr. He has to be a huge part of this. For days we hear about 1 child being disabled and now 3..........You have to get a Dr.s order to apply for SSI. The lips and nose, I wonder if he did that also. Who is this Dr. guy?
I went on <radaronline> like other posters did. The house is filthy. Truly disgusting. Grandma looks worn out. Nadya's lips are quite a bit thinner.
***** When I first heard that she was "single" and lived with her parents....I just knew that state help (money) was being used. Sad to say, it seems like the grandparents paid everything while Nadya spent her money on (more) in vitro and plastic surgery.
***** Something is going to happen...and it is NOT going to be pretty. This woman is NOT mentally stable and she will probably crack with all the responsibility IF she keeps those kids without sufficient childcare help!
***** I "know"....I am bipolar and went through h*ll raising four kids......at least I "only" had four.....(luckily today all are productive adults).....
Then Jack, go get a vasectomy, or a hysterectomy. Whichever applies. These kids are not the problem, and don't deserve to KILLED because their mother doesn't seem to be playing with a full deck. Or because some money hungry fertility doctor didn't care about the consequences of his/her actions. Take it out on the proper people, but leave the kids out of it.
I am not pissed that she has eight kids. I am pissed that she is is too stupid and lazy to get herself financially stable to have as many kids as her vag can take. But to be so irresponsible to have other citizens support your kids with foods stamps and tax dollars. And just a little salt in the wound she does not think that is welfare. I would love to smack her upside the head and tell her I don't think that is violent.
Take care of your own freaking family if you are healthy and capable! POS!
oh, my, hate to say this, but I think I might just be leaning a bit more towards Jack's line of thinking. if Jack is a resident of california, he is going to have to pay for these kids for their whole lives. while advocating putting down a bunch of special needs kids is a sick thing, I can't say it is more disturbing than this woman's actions. This whole family is broken, and while I would never push for their deaths, I don't think I could get in the way of the angry mob, either.
I just don't know here, this is so far beyond sane that I am still shocked and not sure how to react. But I strongly agree with a bunch of people here in one way.... this is not the end of the story, this is only the begining. it's gonna get way worse. you can almost feel the ICKKK coming towards us.
"In a country with any real logic and common sense, this woman and her bastard, disabled children would be euthanized.
Situations like this serve to illustrate that this country has become completely dysfunctional.
There should be a license required to breed, and every citizen of this country should have a locked valve inserted into their tubes which is only unlocked when it can be proved one can bring an intelligent, productive and self-sufficient human being into this world.
Call me whatever names you wish, I don't give a damn. I am sick of this country breeding idiots. We are becoming a third world nation because of this insanity. I support not just zero population growth, but negative population growth. We are overrun by morons."
Something, I'm guessing, that should have been utilized in your family?
this lady is a useless piece of sh*t. she does not deserve welfare, she is a useless piece of crap. just what we need more people who can't afford to pay for their thousands of children. this world is so unjust!!!!!
This whole episode is disgusting. Where in the hell does this single mommy on welfare get the money for her fertility clinic? Millions of questions that boil down to this broad is a nutjob, and her doctor should have his liscense pulled
Delicious Truth. On a technicality you lose. Seek out the definition of bastard. This is a child born out of wedlock. There are now eight new ones. I agree the children should not be disparaged, but the definition of bastard child still stands
Can we get away from reading anymore crap about this alien mother from another country. She is in no way news despite the fact that she sucks off the common taxpayer. Change the laws. If she had to pay for everyone of those kid's education in private school, she would of sung a different tune. Again, change the laws.
I can't grow out my nails or get them done for that matter. Because I scratch my kids and babies on accident when they jump in my arms or changing diapers.
This woman is a total fraud. Her health benefit claims are fraudulent, her explanations are fraudulent, her method of reproduction is fraudulent, even her physical appearance is fraudulent (lip- and nose-jobs are obvious: she sort of resembles The Joker now). She is a sociopathic liar. Why should anyone believe a word she says about ANYTHING?
It does seems obvious that she has hidden money that she had from the government, she is required by law to report any change in income (be it a gift or whatever) that she gets when on welfare or any changes in family size, now that her family size has changed I wonder how much more food stamps she will be eligible for now that she has several more mouths to feed, Grrrrrrrrrr
Being she with held the information that she had so much money to do everything that she has done, I wonder if they are looking into pressing charges on her for fraud.
In this day an age with so many struggling with the way the economy is people like her really make my blood boil, she obviously knows how to work the system to her advantage.
I pay taxes on my unemployment every week now(which isn't much to begin with), because I'm a dislocated worker, and I'm having to help pay for this!!!! Somethings wrong with that picture. Wish we could give her a lie detector test to have all her true motives really brought out.
If she is not charged with fraud and gets to keep all these kids, I would like to see her get some TV and book deals, not for her sake but for the sake of getting her azz off the welfare roll so we are not the ones paying for them for the rest of their lives, I just wish if deals are made that they could set it up so that all the monies made went into trusts for each child, and she was only allowed to use just barley enough to survive and stay off welfare, and if they get taken away, to still do stories and put it in trusts for the kids.
I wonder what kind of medical coverage she has. Who is going to foot the bill for this? Can we honestly expect her to tell the truth as her type of coverage is confidential due to the Hippa laws? I am highly dissapointed with Ann Curry for doing the interview as it has given this person what she wanted. I refuse to even call her a mother as a mother wouldn't intentionally have so many babies at once endangering even one of their lives. I am appalled at her actions and I hope that I am not the only one. I hope that none of the media outlets give her a dime and I hope that those kids are taken away from her as she can't even care for the ones she had before the 8.
I have 6 kids and it would be a cold day in hell before my house would ever look like that. This woman has been away for 2 months in the hospital, what exactly has this grandmother been doing, besides letting these kids run wild and sitting on her a$$, that this house got this bad in the first place? Funny how they didnt show pictures of the grandmother's room or the rest of the house! I bet that entire house is filthy! They live in California, they need to get ahold of that "Clean House" show and have someone come in there and clean that mess up. While there at it call Nanny 911 and get someone to get those kids under control. Once they clear up that whole mess call Adoption Stories and see if they can find some suitable families to provide loving homes to those children so they have a chance at life, something I dont see happening in that dysfunctional household.
I used to think maybe this woman just loved kids but the more I hear about her and the more that surfaces what she is really like, those kids dont have a chance in hell if left in her hands! This story just gets sadder by the day.
Shame on her for profiting off of this ! It borders on child abuse ! How in the world can she afford to raise and care for all 14 of those poor children? Oh wait, she can look to the taxpayers and our handout programs. Congrats on milking the system! What a disgrace!
What do you expect? She has 14 children, 6 previously. She has no job and her parents have no jobs. Is this such a total surprise? Money just doesn't get dropped off at her door step. Put a limit on the number of children that the state or federal government will give assistance to. Any more than that number and they are on their own.
How very sad for the children ,and tax payers. I don't want to judge, but I feel the people will once again be paying their Social Security (Retirement), and tax dollars. Something has to be done about the greed in America! What are we teaching our children?
After the shouting dies down, the sad part of the story is that this woman has legitimate mental impairment. I'm not a Dr. but by any definition she has a mental disease or deficiency. I think the crimes include the fertility Dr who violated the Hippocratic oath by clearly doing harm to this woman by aiding and abetting her mental disease.
Not sure what the solution is. Forced Sterilization of mental patients and low IQ people? The Nazis tried it , I dont think we wish to follow in their footsteps.
Set a maximum # of children per family? I was one of 5 kids, and yes these days I scratch my head when I see a family larger than 5 or 6, but one man's cieling is another man's floor. I think the Amercian obsession with welfare and not liking to see poor people add to families that they already cannot afford further clouds the issue on the table.
And what if some crazy person wants to marry this woman and have kids of their own? Obsurde, at the very least. And the kicker is, she thinks she is sane.
Her poor, poor parents.
Maybe some one will give her some database software so she can keep up with her kids.
This woman is clearly looney tunes and has a host of psychological and emotional issues that need to be addressed. I can't help but wonder what it is she's passing into the gene pool with this artificial litter, uh, birthing of eight. Mike Judge's dark comedy IDIOCRACY (where, because intelligent people practice birth control and supid people don't, humans are devolving into idiots) is looking more prophetic every day.
Yeah, what is with those lips?!? They are NOT normal, whoever did the injections should lose his licence, I've seen better looking lips on a carp. I know it's mean, but how can she be getting cosmetic treatments when she (WE) are paying for all of those kids?
After the anger within me subsides, I feel just completely sad for the kids she has brought into this world.
What made me sick was reading some of the hate filled posts from some. Don't you have anything better to do? She made some terrible choices, we all agree. Can you say that without saying awful things and threatening remarks?
This woman gets crazier and crazier. I can not believe that she was unthruthful on national tv. So now we find out she does get government assistance (food stamps, disability etc.). These eight babies deserve a better life. Nadya Suleman is dullusional.
Why does a woman that needs assistance and has 6 now 14 kids, have the extra time or money to go get her nails done?
Catherine-857430, you can not believe someone would be untruthful on national TV?? LMFAOOO!!!
'Heavenly Father, we come before you today to ask your forgiveness and to seek your direction and guidance. We know Your Word says, 'Woe to those who call evil good,' but that is exactly what we have done.. We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and reversed our values. We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery. We have rewarded laziness and called it welfare. We have killed our unborn and called it choice. We have shot abortionists and called it justifiable. We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self esteem. We have abused power and called it politics. We have coveted our neighbor's possessions and called it ambition. We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression. We have ridiculed the time-honored values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment. Search us, Oh God, and know our hearts today; cleanse us from every sin and Set us free. Amen!' Commentator Paul Harvey aired this prayer on his radio program, 'The Rest of the Story,' and received a larger response to this program than any other he has ever aired. With the Lord's help, may this prayer sweep over our nation and wholeheartedly become our desire so that we again can be called 'One nation under God.'
As for her acrylic nails and (alleged) cosmetic work, she's getting goverment assistance, sure she can afford it! I've seen a lot of women pay with foodstamps and they had their hair and nails done, and drove brand-new cars. All it takes is knowing how to work the system, which Ms. suleman has obviously mastered.
Kevin Q, Why are you disparaging innocent children?
He's not. He's calling it like it is. This woman has fourteen bastard children. Get over how you feel about words in the English language. His statement does not disparage the children. Crap, our president was raised a bastard and is an inspiration to millions, perhaps billions worldwide.
Kevin laments tax dollars - public resources - supporting children purposely born to a woman without the means to do so herself. These children are the result of an unfortunate circumstance, or love, or anything of the sort. Stuff happens, we know that, and as a society we take care of each other. Implicit in that arrangement is the idea that we will not purposely burden our neighbors and that, when we have the means, we will help others.
lol I was thinking the same thing. How can she afford to get her nails done? And how the heck does she clean and care for her kids with nails like that? The fact is, she can't. Nails like that couldn't withstand the rigors of keeping up with what she needs to do on a daily basis. I have 3 children and fake nails would be a waste of money; they'd be broken the first day.
I KNEW there had to be more to this story. She's a liar. She really has deep seated psychological issues and her children really need to be taken away from her and put in homes where they can get what they need. Her saying she'll do the best that she can, is just NOT good enough. Just SICK, SICK, SICK, and the children, and taxpayers are the ones that will suffer here. The children's welfare should not be up for chance and it's a guarantee, she cannot deliver. Most two parent couples couldn't deliver; there's no way a single person could, much less a single person who is in great need of psychological help.
I'm not sure whether I should cry or be furious over this story. I am 35 years old and have been trying to get pregnant for years. My husband and I both have good jobs, work full time and have been saving our money for the last year and a half to pay for my upcoming IVF treatment. I don't understand where this woman, who is on disability and food stamps, got the money to pay for this procedure? It is really disheartening when people like myself and my husband, who are able to provide and would be thrilled with one healthy baby, wind up paying for crackpots like this to populate the earth with babies that are sure to have long-term health problems. I hope the medical board of California strips that doctor of his/her license for this unethical practice.
This woman belongs in a mental institution, and her children should be put up for adoption. Trouble is, most will have problems and not be very adoptable.
This story makes me sick to my stomache. The more and more I hear/read about this story I want to throw up. This woman lives off the tax payers. Those people that need help can't get it because of people like this just living off the system. Any smart american will tell you that if you get food stamps you are on welfare no matter what way you turn it. She has lied and got cought but what makes this so sad is she will still get money from people in this counrty feeling bad for her and wanting to help her out.
I have 3 kids, I'm one of the lucky few that are a stay at home mom (at least in this day and age), but there is no time in the day for me to think about going and getting my nails done...free time for me is after 9pm where its basicly get in the shower then go pick up and off to bed to start my day all over again. I wouldn't be suprised to hear in 2 years that all 14 kids where taken away from her.
I thought we all agreed the other day this woman was "amboo..amma..nutjob number 2" and that she was ripping US OFF IN TAXPAYERS" MONEY.??????
She sucks up to the media. We know the media writes on a third grade level, so we EXPECT THEY WILL HYPE AND PUMP UP THE NEWS STORY FOR THEIR OWN GLORY.
BUT OUR OWN GOVERNMENT?
HOW MANY TIMES IS THE US GOVERNMENT GOING TO ALLOW THE TAXPAYERS" OF THIS COUNTRY TO GET SCREWED?
WHERE IS THE GOVERNOR OF HER STATE? I HOLD THAT PERSON RESPONSIBLE...
See, this is exactly why reversible sterilization should be mandatory for anyone receiving any kind of government aid. If you can't afford to pay your own way then sorry, no kids for you.
She probably can get her nails done because she lives with her parents, you are right this woman is sick in her head and needs some help and maybe authorities need to get involved. Has anyone ever said who/how the fertility treatments are paid for?
This woman is crazy like a fox she and milloins of others have devised methods to live off of the backs of working people and our State and Federal Government do gooders, have made it possible. These type of abuses will only multiply over the next 10 years.
The definition of the word bastard is "a child born out of wedlock". It is not a swear word when used in that context. At least 8 of her children were born out of wedlock, therefore the term does apply to them.
Half of Nadya's 6 kids are receiving disability payments. Wonder how many of the new ones will also receive payments. It was already mentioned that having octuplets born prematurely is likely to cause some of the kids to develop medical problems, which will preclude them from living a normal life. So she had all 8 implanted, knowing that some would probably have medical problems the rest of their lives (and the chances were increased since half the kids she already had medical problems), but that was OK since she could simply get more money from SSI.
ahhh so this is how its done, pop out litters of children, make sure a couple are disabled, fake my own disability and im rolling in money, woo hoo, the secrets finally out people!!!!
on a more serious note, this is disgusting and unfair, im not exactly a big fan of large families because of the cost and mental wellfair of the children but as long as you can support them yourself who am i to judge, but i am going to judge this woman alright, lying evil and a fraud - if you have such a bad back you cant work how can you pop out 14 kids? if you are unemployed and on benefits how do you get fertility treatment, get your nails done and get your lips plumped up??
if you already have 6 kids and 3 are disabled, why would you have 8 more, isnt this the most selfish thing ever, how much extra attention and looking after do you think those 3 kids need, plus the 3 healthy ones, how can she possibly look after them properly??? this woman needs putting in prison for fraud, the government should never bankroll large familieis, pay for 2 kids, anything over that your on your own.
How many lies do WE hear in a day's time on national TV? Radio? We hear ideologies, at best. Some are out-and-out lies; seldom is truth spoken, unless it is happens live.
Someone needs to do a study as to the total cost of reporting about this woman. Salaries are tax deductable for the corporations, so is advertising. The media LIVES on the REAL taxpayers.
So, call it like it is. Not the way that we would all like it to be. This is the difference between REALISM and IDEALISM.
The sooner people stop paying attention to the MEDIA, the sooner their markets dry up and the sooner THEY all head BACK to E. Europe, S. Europe, Middle East, and W. Europe. The sooner the better.
How many billions will be sent through the charity systems today? Catholics, Jews, Episcopalians have 1000's of them.
I don't understand how anyone can have sympathy or even curiosity for this woman. I am pregnant with my first child and I lost my very good paying job this year due to the economic "crisis". My husband is supporting the both of us on his salary alone. We do not get public assistance or really any help from our families (other than the normal gifts for baby) because we live 600 miles away from our closest family members. My story is quite normal is this economic environment but this lady has gone far beyond any reasonable explanation for her actions. Feeding off the already broken system is disgusting and reprehensible. I hope her children are fine but I could give a rat's a** about her.
I was wondering the same thing... Where does she get the money to pay for her plastic surgery and IVF treatments. Both are obviously quite expensive for someone on welfare. Hmmm
For the record, the President was born to Mr & Mrs Barack Obama, and was therefore not a "bastard." He was raised by a single mother after his parents divorced, but was by no means born out of wedlock as the term implies. Many children are however, born to women who are not married and are therefore, in the strict sense of the word bastards, however it is fairly outmoded in its use as single parenthood is more widely accepted. Single parenthood with the intention to let the taxpayers support your children makes the irresponsible mother someone to disparage, not the child(ren). Just sayin'
She will be on an interview tonight with Ann Curry. How much did NBC pay for this "exclusive" interview? I am sure this is exactly what this woman was craving: money and media attention. And NBC is biting. Anyone thinks she looks like another multiple child mother? (Angelina Jolie?) It just gets stranger. At least Angie can afford her children. One look at those tiny little faces and your heart just breaks for them.
Why would you be surprised about her truthfulness? Look at the appointees of Mr. Obama (BO for short). Speaking of truth, didn't it start with Mr. Clinton?
How does someone on welfare get enough money set aside to PAY for the IVF? And we STILL need to know who the crazy doctor was who did this procedure to a welfare mother.
My husband heard she took out a lot of Student Loans to pay for the IVF, instead of spending it on education. Maybe so, since she doesn't know what welfare is. What, does she think we ALL get these handouts. America may be called the 'land of milk and honey', but someone has to pay for it. And I, like many of you, DON'T want to pay for this woman.
Damn straight. She needs to be kept barefoot and pregnant. What the hell's going on? Does she get nail-stamps too? Perhaps she has been watching these small business onwers who haven't had a custome lately yet the seem to live well. Do you suppose that these people receive mone from the Catholic, Jew, and/or Episcopalian Charities? My ex-in-laws had 18 kids. And, they lived pretty well. But, wait, they owned a radio station which played Top 50 music to perhaps as many as 35,000 people. Wow, 35,000 yet they lived well. They also sold advertising to maybe 100 people. Wow! So, here's one for ya. They all belonged to a nice country club, drove nice cars, lived in large houses, yet they actually DID squat. What suckers we all are! Suckas.
In 1933, 1% had 99% of the money, which meant that 99% had 1%. Also, earlier, in the 19th C., there was a potato famine in Ireland, which caused millions to migrate to the New World, where they arrived without money, without hope, and, oh, did I mention without? My g-g-grandparents, who were NOT Catholic, NOT Jews, NOT Episcopalians, and NOT Black, had managed through creativity, hard work, and frugality, to become fairly wealthy people. But, the maggots, whoops, sorry, the immigrants, had arrived in force which meant that dividing of the wealth had to occur UNLESS you were influential Catholic, Jew and/or Episcopalian. This amounted to my ancestors, plaining spoken, going broke. Their families were separated and moved to the western, unsettled states where they managed to live without MONEY. Now, 3 generations later, here I am on a computer here to tell all of YOU who screwed my ancestors out of their MONEY via coercion, extortion, and the like, that you are going to get %$#&@* in the butt BY ME w/o K-Y, figuratively speaking.
Oh yes, Dr. Synderman, the NBC Analyst, will enlighten us all. Armed with the corporate card and the NBC Dole, she will tell us all we needed to know.
When I watch people such as Dr. Synderman, I wonder how many biology tests, on which this bitch really got a B but ended up with an A. I watched this happen all too many times at the U. of Iowa, knowing that this was just one school.
It is a proven fact that one person can only care for the needs of five other individuals. Even if you are a licensed day care provider you can only watch no more than 10 children in my state. There is no way that she will be able to meet the children's needs and give them what they need to thrive and grow properly. IT is a sad situation.
Three disabled children... Does this not send up a red flag or some kind of alert?
The state needs to take away these children and give them to families who will take care of them and give them real love. These children aren't fashion accessories or welfare checks.
Who paid for this very costly procedure for her to get pregnant??? I have not followed this story closely and was just wondering who paid for it. If she was already on assistance there is no way she could have afforded to get pregnant like this. IT costs more than ten grand!!!! I think whoever paid for it had plans for a movie and book deal and are exploiting these children!!!! Call child protective services! This is ridiculous!
Gee-and why is California in need of a bail out? How much did the state fork over for her invito-fertilization? These poor kids are entitled to free college educations too! Darn it! You can have it all in California! Full speed ahead in spending-so long as the Federal Government bails you out. Its funny, the normal lefties on this site are appauled at this story-you and your entitlements allowed this to happen. Blame yourself.
You're surprised that she lied! What an idiot. She's been a scammer since day one. She sees child production as a way to increase her income and never work. Uncommon for a white girl, but since "we're all one" now, everyone should just become lazy, dishonest and a burden on society. People like her are why abortion should be mandatory-not just legal-in some cases.
I'm sure someone has thought of this before, but it bears saying that even though the "father" has deer in the headlights syndrome now, what does anyone want to bet that these two end up hooking up and some sort of reality show comes out of it?
I mean, aren't sperm donors usually supposed to remain anonymous?? How come she *knows* this guy and how come she's in contact with him?? I think they have some sort of scam going--scamming the government, the public, her parents (poor woman looks totally bedraggled and obviously is having trouble keeping up with the six; she must be scared sh!tle$$ at the thought of 14!!), and now here comes the media!!
I agree with everyone else--this is shameless and insane, and I hope most, if not ALL 14 of the children are taken away from this woman. I'd feel badly for the grandmother, but she just doesn't look like she can do it for much longer (like someone else said, look at the house, and I DON'T blame the grandmother!!). I'd also feel bad for the children missing their grandmother after she's cared for them after all these years, but they would be better off.
As for the sad sack mother, they should sew her shut! Or, at the very least, take all her not-welfare away!
Is it the general irresponsibility factor that has got everyone so angry about this story?
I'm all for a person realizing their dreams whatever they may be as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else directly or indirectly. Giving birth to eight babies at the same time is not so much irresponsible as it is freaky. I can't help but compare the situation to a litter of puppies. Forgive me if I offend anyone but it's just kind of freaky and that maybe science is going too far here, I mean think about how much a female human body gives of itself to give one fetus all the nutrients and other things it needs to develop normally. It's alot of work and literally drains the mom and in some cases actually kills the mother. Twins and on very rare occasions, triplets are a NATURAL wonder and even then often times one of the babies of a multiple birth will have some medical issues due to the mother's inability to provide fully for more than one baby so I have a hard time understanding how one body can develop so many lives at once and there not be serious consequences for one or more of them and knowing this why would anyone in their right responsible mind want to put a child through it in the first place. That's all I want to know. Thank you.
OMG, I noticed that too, about her nails! Do you know how expensive the upkeep is on those nails. Every two weeks, if not more often! I used to have them but my hands were in water too much, and I only have one kid!!!! She also has a Nanny! Didn't anyone notice that? A Nanny!!! Who is paying for the Nanny?! I bet her house is a mess!
Obama may as well allocate 1 billion of the bail out to support this crazy woman and her kids. SIX of the new ones will need assistance all of their lives from disabilities.
How did she ever get the money for in vitro anyway??????
If you think the house is pit now just wait until the 8 babies arrive home. I have always thought once you have one child and are on welfare that's it. That's all the government/taxpayer should have to tolerate. You want the freedom of choice? Well there ya go. Choose birth control. This is BS, and she is a woman of ill repute.
I know it's not the kids fault but it's not mine either, nor is it my responsibility as a responsible American taxpayer.
My wife can do a french nail job on her self better than this nut job..and maybe someone simply popped her it the mouth....I payed out over 10K last year in fed med ss and state...Gee whizzz Im so happy to be raising 16 kids now...with her 14. as for supporting illeagles..BS I went through alot of cash paperwork and BS to immigrate my wife here legally...This is a crock. I support my wife, the main issue with it was did I make enough money to care for my family....why do they watch people who do the right thing, then turn and give these people the benifits for free...
I am not angry at this woman for having all these babies, I am, however, angry that she wants to use welfare and student loans to support the chidren and, with the economy the way it is shoot no body should be having any babies one or eight.
However, I do give her credit for the desire to want her children and love her children. If you go to adoptuskids.org you will see all of the thousands of children in foster homes because their parents don't even want them. Yes financially she is soo wrong for what she is doing but morally and personally who are we to judge her for what she wants to do.
Yes I am saying what she has done is fine by me. Well, how many of you men who are passing judgement don't even pay child support or even spend daily time with your children probably have children that don't even know you, and you probably don't even know them. How many women out there passing judgement; your children are at someone elses home or in the street and you don't even know what they are doing half the day when they aren't in school. Yea when you can be a perfect parent or God, then you might have the right to say something to this woman. Otherwise if you're not going to go help her shut up and mind your business.
GOSH, MY first collapsed by the community thingy, I feel so shamed, well actually not I said nothing that any HUMAN would say, well, the cow poop and the Mars mission thingy might be excessive and therefore could be an exception, my apologies
I dont think nothings wrong with having all those children and getting help isent that what the state is there for? to help people in need what ever happen to "our children are our future
What you don't understand and probably never will, is there are some of us that have never had any state assistance to raise our children. We didn't have children so the state could help us. It's not part of the plan...................."Our children are our future".....yes, not the governments. By the way, where did you get that idea?
It is one thing to have kids and take care of them to later on find ourselves in circumstances beyond our control and needing a little help, be it sickness or job loss at no fault of our own.
But to intentionally go out and have so many kids knowing from the get go that you will need so much help is sickening and using our tax paying money in order to help.
I agree with one persons statement in here, maybe they should get the doctor who implanted all these to help pay for all the hospital bills and the up bringing of all these kids. It would make him think twice about doing this again ya think!!
Why didn't she make sure she finished her education before she had these last 8 kids?
That way she would have been out of commission for a couple of month after they were born, and could return quickly to work.
She also stated she's only planning on getting help for just a little while till she finishes school so she can then support her self and her kids, It stated she was going to go to school to be a counselor, She is so full of BULLLLLLL, My Question is how could she not know that she would more than likely be forever needing food stamps(WELFARE) for a long long time, o I forgot food stamps is not conceidered welfare to her,lol, Lets say Even if she did go back to school and get her degree, Would it pay that well that she would no longer need assistance. I totally doubt it.
I mean heck look 14 kids, how much food, diapers,clothes,shoes, and how many baby sitters will she need to pay while at school and work?
Maybe welfare to work will be helping pay for all this too after all its not welfare right? Just there for a little help when needed for a short duration. What a total farce.
She is wanting to be a counselor?
She will be getting money one way or another be it us helping to support her and her kids through our tax dollars that we pay.
Or from book and movie deals. It is so sad to see her obtaining what goals she has intentionaly set out to do.
This story makes me so totally sad, Not for her, but for them children the things they will have to endure threw the years because of her incompetence.
I think she better change her field now, How many people now would conceider going to her? Hummm not me. Would you?
What person can call themselves a mother when they can only give 45 min. to each child a day. Thats if you stayed awake 14 hours per day. Kids need to bond and feel secure with a parent and a child with disabilities needs alot more time than the healthy children. I would call this neglect .. but, what am I talking about , this " so called mother" Loves her children so much she isn't even home with them she is running around doing interviews. I hope the state gets involved .......... to allow all this is so very sad for our society and sad for those children. I lived in California and they even put a limit on how many cats and dogs you can own in one house and in the city. Too many pets was neglectful aren't these children a little more important.
OMG!!! This crazy woman now has a web site accepting donations via internet. She has pictures of the babies and comments they are all healthy. What the heck .. I have never seen healthy babies look like that. Healthy babies don't need feeding tubes and healthy babies don't weigh 2lb. This woman is nuts. Insult to injury she is accepting visa, mastercard .. etc. The last time she had extra money she sure in the hell didn't spend it on her 6 kids. I just can't believe the nerve or stupidity..
Your post reminds me of when my children were young - we purchased this toy for my step-father. It was called "Milky the Cow". It was purchased as something funny because he was a farmer before he entered our family. Perhaps Nadya needs a real life size "Milky" of her own.
Viva - exactly! I have written to Governor Arnold (even though I don't live in CA but do vacation there - no more!), and I'm going to write to President Obama as well
What is even worse, is that hundreds of others watch TV and get the idea to do it too. Kinda like yeah, if she can do it we can too. They figure the govt has lots of money, according to the way Obama is throwing it around...............
She's so delluded that she thinks food stamps and SSI are not types of assistance? You have got to be kidding me. And to think her publicist said that everyone's opinon of her would change once we heard her story. <insert eye rolling here> She disgusts me. I feel sorry for her children and the life they will be denied because their mother is mentally unstable.
Just remember Hillary's book,"It Takes a Village". Let Hillary pick up the tab. I do feel sorry for the children. They are being used as a meal ticket. The Mom is a total moron and I hope all the dumb liberals take note on how far the system can be used. Poor taxpayers, work harder to pay for the morons.
VIV...How is this a political problem? If you actually read Clinton's book, you would realize that the implication was that a child is a product of it's influences. What kind of influence are you?
Ok, now we find out she is too stupid or delusional to tell the truth about the welfare she is receiving. No big shock there.
But also consider this. 50% of the children she already had are disabled. Did the fertility clinic take this into consideration when they let her implant more eggs?????!!!! I'm not liking those odds and neither should have her Dr.
Oh, she WANTED all of them? She's going embrace ALL of them? I'd like to see that. Her own parents are completely disgusted with her. They should have booted her out of the house instead of letting her back in, so that she could play fertility goddess somewhere else. I think the fertility doctor and his clinic are being investigated. I'm just curious to see what these fourteen hapless souls will be like when they get to the terrible twos, the impossible threes, the curious exploratory fours and fives, and then turn into teens. Gee, she's got her own street gang there. They could all get together and sell dope on the corner to support her, since she is sponging off everyone around her.
My son was born with Cerebal Palsy due to a doctors negligence and although it took us 13 longs years to finally win in court , great system, we won. The doctor due to his own actions covered a lifetime of medical issues he forced on my son. This fertility doc should face the same fate and be made to fund his SCREW UPS. These kids didnt ask to be the product of Mr and Mrs Frankenstien but they will pay the price. This woman ( and i use the word losely) should be steralized so there can be no more products of a lost childhood such as hers. Hopefully the state child protection agency grows a set and puts these kids up for adoption to safe guard their well being and future. As of right now they are living in the twilight zone.
Ferrferr, so her publicist said that everyone's opinion about her would change when we knew more about her? That is the same comment made about another infamous female sociopath that is currently in the news. Nadya's publicist is not very good. Yesterday the publicist said that she is not responsible for her mother's messy house because she had been there or seen her children in 2 months (though she has had time for an extensive interview with NBC at an undisclosed location.)
to receive food stamps and SSI dont you have to apply for them from the goverment??? wonder what she thought she was doing in filling out this paperwork from the goverment.???
Hey Viva .... I'm a liberal, and obviously not as dumb as you seem to think they all are. See how much liberals are wanting to support her? Oh yeah, you see almost no support for this woman.
Viva, how dare you use this farce to bash Hillary Clinton when the Bush administration was the darling of the right to life whiners? Keep your political views out of this, this is the choice of ONE stupid, greedy woman.
A42 your IQ is showing..........It is a political problem because the politicians from both sides have all the welfare structure, that not only encourages this idiot, but sustains her logic. She believes that someone will take care of her and her children. If you think she was not influenced by someone then think about how she has come to this point in her life. Then still using your thinking CAP, if you have one, think about how she will influence others with her stupidity. She is getting the on air time to promote this logic to other morons who will also want to live off the system, your tax money.
This is the extreme. How much assistance does the lady think would be available if everyone did this? This is exactly the type of person who takes advantage of the system designed to truly help those in need. Irresponsible decision making should not be rewarded.
4 generations ago, people worked the system so that you could find 3 generations of walfare mom's, girls started having babies very early, to get the Xtra's.
Today, I believe we should require all who receive assistance to provide hours to pay for what they get. 14 kids or not. We have so many public service jobs, or clean streets/yards/parks. Work for what you get, no matter who you are.
This abuse is why taxpayers get tired of helping anyone. We just get tired of these sob stories.......what about my sob story? I am taking it away from my children to give it to hers. My husband and I work to support morons.
dennett, Hope I got this name right. It isn't only 4 generations ago, but is happening now.In our area I can name several of them and the sad part is there are people that really need it can't get it and are living on a couple hundred a month, and 23 dollars food stampsl Just need to know how to work it and seems like that is pased down in familys. welfare breeds welfare. They even get around the two year law then have to go to school get trained. don't do it.just keep moving county to county. But in calif. doen't have to no wonder they are broke,
The welfare denizens know how to work the system...have another baby, get a raise! Woo hoo! and make sure you have one under 5 at all times so you can get WIC.
The news agencies should stop promoting this obviously deceptive and dillusional woman. The state/county where she lives needs to really look at ALL of her children and get them to homes that can provide for them. Even her mother said she does not provide for these children and does most of the work raising these kids. If your own mother is turning on you, there is DEFINATELY a problem there.
Protect these children from the womb that delivered them.+
The coverage really pulled back when they found out the story. I will boycott any magazine/new coverage (NBC) CNN who pay for the chance to hear her story. She can't tell the truth from the start. But I wonder, does her parents tell the truth? Didn't her father say she had a big house she would be taking the children to, out of public eye. sounds like prison to me. I hate to think that the children have to be taken from her and put in separate faster homes, (cause the isn't one foster home that will take 14). I think her tubes should be tied. or she will have 6 more. Is the sperm donor required to pay support?
yeah, & 'toilet paper' is just paper too, but ya need money to buy it, unless you want to use leaves from the yard. this woman's nuttier than a squirrel-turd!
a juvenile comment like this just shows the level of thinking of this sick woman.no thinking outside the box here!!!!! she appears to be trying to be like angelina jolie ( her lips, dark hair) in a sorta psychotic way!!!!! if i did not see her make this comment,i would have sworn it was a 5 year old sayin it!!!!
Notice how quicky she said she would eagerly snatch up any money the public is willing to give her? You /know/ she's going to be wealthy. I want to vomit.
California Family and Child Services need to put an end to this farce right now. Go in and take the infants and children from this sick and delusional woman. There are good families, childless couples that are yearning to properly care for these children... and NOT AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE!!!!!!
I'm just curious how an obviously mentally unstable woman, on food stamps, with 6 kids half of whom are disabled, who lives with her mother, and is unemployed, managed to swing the cost of fertility treatments. I have no kids and I can't even afford a root canal. I would be very upset to see this woman got her litter implanted with taxpayer money.
That is trully a good question. She is a real good con-artist so I would like to know how she was able to beat the system. If you really listen to her interviews you can tell that her thinking is irrational. She speaks and sounds like a person in denial. Am I the only one to notice that?
She can't afford food but she can have her lips injected (trout pout). This women is disgusting. The taxpayers will be responsible for a lifetime of upkeep on this brood. Think of all the psychiatric and mental health bills will be coming down the pike for the taxpayers to pay. Psychiatric care for 14 kids. This will be astronomical for the tax payers of California and beyond.
You can't even imagine how angry and sick this makes me. As someone who has personally struggled for five and half years she has now offically made people more ignorant to the TRUE pain and hardships of infertility.. THANK YOU!!!! I would adopt one of those babies in a HEARTBEAT just to save them from this demented mother, and it looks like it could be a possibility if CPS has anything brain in their heads!!!!
I agree.. HOW DID she pay for fertility treatments?? I read where her mom said she was lying about the doctor that did her IVF. It was a different doctor. Doctors CAN refuse treatment if it goes against the best intrest and I'm sure her doc did. She probably went around and found a doc who would do this. I have a STRONG feeling she lied to him as well. That said, These poor children. I feel soo sorry for them. I honestly do. As someone who will have to go through IVF to have ONE child this gives us who are TRULEY suffering a bad name. I hate that because to not be able to have children is a true honest to God deep pain. I would never flaunt my babies like this. I would be proud and I would NOT mooch off the government as I have a stable job and don't want FOURTEEN children. Most who go through infertility just want ONE child. I'll get off my soapbox, but this touches so close to home. I could ring this mother's neck. HOW SELFISH!!! What a self centered BRAT!!!! Her parents I feel sorry for, but they are responsible for making this woman this way!!!!
Texaschick, I had the same thought. What else has she lied about and to whom.
I got a feeling this woman went to different fertility doctors and lied to them about how many kids she had.
It's woman like this that make it hard for others who have fertility issues. It causes others to group everyone with fertility issues into the same category when in actuality most woman with fertility issues would be perfectly happy with just one baby.
There are illegals getting millions, including Obamas aunt.At least she's a crazy American. She's working the system her way just as the Masters of The Universe worked the system their way.
There are illegals getting millions, including Obamas aunt
Yes. Including Obama's illegal aunt living in Boston. GG, this is the only thing that makes me more disgusted than the IVF octuplets! Obama passes a stimulus package so he can support his...say it again...ILLEGAL AUNT IN BOSTON!
And let's not forget that the White House now wants MORE control over the 2010 census. How much longer will dear ole auntie Obama in Boston be illegal???????
Oh, I assure you, she will get her green card expeditiously issued--while we have clients in the firm I work for that have languished in the system for 14 years or longer waiting for the same thing, while working and breaking their backs to do things right. *ugh*
I am sorry but I want to know is if she is getting food stamps-how did she qualify? Did the fertility clinic implant her for free? I smell something very fishy.....
This woman does not have the slightest notion of what being a mother is. When you have children you love them no matter what they are. You don't burden them, and yourself, with more kids. That is selfish and it is cruel to the other children. You can't give 14 kids individual love and attention no matter how much of good health you are in or how "devoted" you are.
Three of the first ones are already disabled, probably mentally, something she forgot to "mention". I can't imagine what these eight other children will face now and when their older. If it's not physical it will most likely be psychological problems.
The state should take these kids away and give them to other families who will give them love and all the care they need and see that they do well in life. This woman will not be able to do that. She's just looking to get her next check.
She needs to be locked up in a mental institution.
I agree with you 100% . She is not even taking care of the children she already has. Who is watching the other 6 ? The parents that have been enabling her all this time? She is out running around doing interview after interview. I have 3 children and never feel like I have enough time to give them. Even if this woman did stay at home with all 14 kids at most she could give them 45 min of attention per child. I call that neglect in the most extreme way. I wouldn't even grace her with the term mother. If she had cared about the first 6 she would have been giving them her time love and devotion rather than running around like a freak trying to create more. God help all of those children .. they don't stand a chance with such a selfish womb donor.
I noticed the nails, too! I had four children and was lucky to have the time to CLIP my fingernails! I think this "woman" needs to be evaluated and have these children placed somewhere safe. She's crazy! She is not only putting a burdon on society, she is the reason that our Health Insurance Rates are so exorbitant!
i am surprised the neonatal icu allowed her to touch those infants with those nails. also, just a note , one of our recent newspapers reported last week that the amount of abuse/fraud in our state alone was $41-$43 million dollars per month. not per year per month. i'm sure this proposed stimulus plan will give each state enough to cover this plus any other cost of this kind that arises.
One thing that I have not seen discussed is Kaiser Permanente has to pay the millions of dollars but did not do the envitro. Seems to me the doctor that made this very questionable call (implanting six embryo's) should foot the bill.
You may be right, according to her she has many infertility issues, but she seems to have no problem carring a shild in her uterus. Perhaps she was selling her eggs to pay for the invtro and would used a baster for his. After all wasent there a story years back about sister who had her husband eject his sperm into a baster and then she gave it to her sister and it worked!! What a mess, her state of mind is totally off, she suffered from depression and thats what lead her to make these irresponsable decisions, the time line is off wack too if she really tried to get pregnate for 7 years that would make her 17 and yet she married when she was 23 , so who was she trying to have children with. And the nerve to say that the public can't embrace her unconventional ways is obsurd, 4 children would be acceptable 6 children would be considered unconventional, and 14 is just irresponsable and crazy
One of the stories mentioned that she used a different doctor for the 8 than for the previous 6. I wonder if she showed up and left out some parts of the story, such as "I have 6 kids already". What if she said all of her past treatments had failed, then the clinic went out of business, her medical records were "lost", etc?
Maybe this doctor was really unethical, or maybe they were a little too trusting of her story.
What about her boyfriend that donated all his sperm to her, all those kids are HIS, why shouldnt he have to pay for HIS children? He knew she wasnt going to drink the stuff! He KNEW what she wanted it for, it was her boyfriend! He needs to help pay his fair share for HIS children. Welcome to the world of responsibility DADDY!
The LA Times reported that the fertility treatments were done at West Coast IVF Clinic, which is run by Dr. Michael M. Kamrava. Also, "Kaiser Permanente's Bellflower Medical Center has asked California's health plan for the poor to cover the enormous cost of medical care for the eight premature infants".
Well, since she is delusional, she can be deemed an unfit mother, and her kids can be taken away from her and given to responsible people who will give them proper homes!
Personally I think she should be forcibly, surgerically sterilized and these new babies taken away from her. We're going to see this disturbed woman do this again and again and again.
There is something to be said for eugenics afterall.............
They ought to make the doctor who did the implants take casr of her and the kids! Hey, Maybe Traitor Pelosi could becaome a patriot and help her out and give her some of the millions she duped us out of?
Now I've got it figured out. She was implanted with 8 kids about the time Barry started promising to make all the poor minorities rich...she probably gave the fertility Dr. an IOU for when Barry made her and all the other poor people rich. So it seems to me that Barry should help support her, too. Oh wait, he WILL be doing that...with the stimulus money, and our tax dollars, and our children's tax dollars, and our grandchildren's tax dollars, and our great-grandchildren's tax dollars.....
You've forgotten about Bush's 700 Billion making the ultra rich even richer? What about all the debt he incurred? You just love him, and the way he's f'd this country right in it's arse!
Leave the bashing of President Bush somewhere else. If anything, the bashing ought to be sent to the political school of thought that says we are responsible for this woman's expenses -- spread the wealth -- take money from the pockets of the hard-working Americans and hand it out to those to lazy to work. Who does that sound like? Bill & Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Barack Obama?? Yepper! Now that I think about it, I am surprised this woman hasn't been offered some high government job in the new administration!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is no reasion to bring politics into this conversation. None of the Presidents had anything to do with it. Each state makes their own rules for welfare. People learn how to get around it. and this is wrong. I have worked since I was 13 and am now 79 didn't retire till 74. So think I have a right to say Welfare Breeds Welfare. If they don't know how you get pg. and keep having children do a hystorectomy cheaper than payng for all the kids. take the children out of those homes and give to people who will love them, and educate them.Take the mother off welfare, she can work. or starve. who cares.Wouldn't have to pay the people that take them there are so many that want children.
It is amazing that someone could be so delusional! That woman is in total denial, and desperately needs psychiatric help. Now we hear that three of her other children are disabled... and she went and had more! How crazier will the story get? I am waiting for the next installment...
her stories are not adding up here. 1 and 1 is making 3. She is lying, and thinking people won't remember her lies, but she forgets, pissed off people remember everything! LOL
She shouldnt be allowed to touch any of the "paper" she gets from this. It should be put into a trust fund and used for the support of the kids ONLY! NO NAILS<HAIR DOS or any other thing woman get with paper for their own enjoyment. She shouldnt be allowed to prosper from cent one. Appoint a trustee to oversee the fund and use it justly, we all know how much those kids are gonna cost to raise. For any of the kids who develop a disability make the doctor who implanted them pay for the care. I'm no doctor but we've all heard how a birth like that is extremely risky. Well he gambled with those lives just the moron who delivered em so if theres a health problem he should pay.
I just saw my government give rich guys who make 80 MILLION a year 800 Billion in welfare...you guys are worried about a mom getting $490 a month? Freaks...
Yes, when there are thousands of people like her that are sucking the system dry... abusing the system so that when someone truly needs help, there won't be as much help available.
rock: I already expressed my outrage about those mafiosi taking over big business and ripping off the shareholders and now the taxpayers. Now I am turning my anger against another scam artist. I do not discriminate, she is on the same level but different scale.
Rock - just where do you come off with $490.00 per month? Each month she will cost we the tax payers $1400.00 in housing, $4200.00 in child care, $7400.00 in health care, $1800.00 in food stamps, $400.00 in transportation costs, $1800.00 in funding her education (she has already declared her intention to go to school rather than work - and to have the school care for her children). So Rock - where do you get your $490.00 per month figure?
rock, a scam artist aiming high or a scam artist aiming even higher is still a scam artist.
I also noticed her nails and it seems she has had a nose job. Some news media produced a picture of her taken a few years ago and her nose was fairly large.
I worry when anyone goes to such extremes to rip anyone off. I live in a small town and a bank employee just got arrested for stealin at least 10,000.00 from our small town bank in the 3 years she worked there. I'd be more sympathetic with this womens situation if she just had the six and hadn't saved her paycheck to spend HOW MUCH! for her invitro especially with 3 special need babies. Think of the resources she could have blessed these 3 babies with if the money had gone towards them. I am always hearing how expensive it is to even try get basic education and help with even one special needs child.
That woman has intentions of caring for any of those kids. They are all tokens in her scheme to get more money from the government, her church, businesses and society as a whole. She should be wearing a white outfit and heavily medicated.
John, I think Rock was probably just quoting the amount stated in the article - which was unfortunately JUST for food stamps. As your post so intelligently put it, there are a LOT more expenses that will need to be paid for - and I want to know where she will be getting the money to pay for them.
hey does anyone out there have an autistic child, maybe you could comment for all of us how much time and dedication is takes to raise an autistic child, i dont know but im assuming it takes an extra amount of love, time and money to raise a child with autism, now add on another 2 with unknown disabilities - then add on 3 healthy children, and now add on 8 premies, seriously, can she really give all 14 children the love, attention and dedication they need????
My son has C.P. and the cost of his care is astronomical. That why I say the doctor should be held liable. He knew the risks involved in such a risky procedure and didnt care. But besides the financial burden theres also the many sleepless nights in a hosp room being there for the child. When they have a handicap like that sometimes they dont have the ability to express a need or want or anything so you have to be there to protect the one you love. This idiot doesnt even do that at home she lets her folks care for them. What is gonna happen god forbid something happen to her parents who will be there then , the one whos already proven shes not there now ? The state really needs to take these kids for their own welfare and put em up for adoption. It sucks they wouldnt grow up together but a life of opertunities apart beats a life on a dead end road. Theres alot of couples looking to adopt a baby now they should have a chance.
No kidding, about the 800 billion to bail out the greedy CEOs.
Mark 3847 - you are right it is not our job to judge. not me, not you. no one has the right to judge.
jbdaad -- right on. how about some real news.
We "the majority" have become obsessed with stories like this. There are millions of people collecting undue welfare, living in squalor while they drive $40, 000 cars and yet we only bring this issue up when an anomaly pops up. some states do have a cap on welfare. Yes make them work for their stipends, but you can't punish the children. They didn't have a choice, and who knew all six embryos were going to survive. Elective reduction? Is that not murder? I never made the connection between her and Angelina Jolie. Not even close and I know people who have features such as hers naturally.
It is not ours to judge. MSNBC, Anne Curry, and any other news station is doing their job covering this unnatural birth. The "News" is not the watchdog of the community as it was designed to be, but is now "yellow journalism" using sensational stories to sell their "product." I stopped writing for newspapers over ten years ago because of the headline on Christmas Day 1991 about the number of murders in Chicago that year. That same paper had a small photo of a screaming child with Santa Claus. Two years later the other large paper followed suit. I have a difficult time watching and reading mainstream news, and when I found this side, thought I could find some new with substance and comments that were worth my time. I'm appalled by all the judgement.
Oh yeah, any of you "psychics" who are certain that six of the eight will be on assistance--shame on you. How do you know? Just because statistics say its probable doesn't mean it's possible. Hasty generalization.
I raised two kids alone because dad was a deadbeat, Disneyland dad and it was tough. I hadn't been to college and needed help. I got it and finished college raised my kids who are healthy and successful and while I was getting assistance from Uncle Sam wrote an article about how easy it was to dupe the government agencies. My assistance lasted about six months and when I finally landed a job, I earned less money than I was getting on public assistance. Therein lies the problem. Don't make it (welfare)so appealing.
The fact that she resembles Angelina Jolie, as many of you point assert, is a moot point. As far as the nails, everybody has a right to look pretty and if after or during her pregnancy, her self esteem was boosted by this...so what. She will survive and however she gets support to help her is her issue. She plans to get a master's degree and get off any public assistance. There are 3rd generation welfare recipeints that don't know what "going to work " means.
Lets focus on "real news", people, like our economic crisis, the environment and how we are going to take this country from being pathetic to proud.
Colleen, you seem to be pretty defensive about the comments on this board. What is "real" news anymore? American Idol? Reality TV? Besides, I thought this was a discussion about the crazy woman who is trying to use her superhuman birth to gain fame and fortune. Other than the fact that octomom is being socially irresponsible, it has nothing to do with 'global warming' or the economy. There are plenty of discussions about those 'valid' topics on other threads.
Our country is pathetic? Really? Give me a break. And you are preaching to the choir about being too judgemental. Get off your high horse, Colleen, I'd like to see you spend a considerable amount of time elsewhere. Go live in a third world, war torn country and then tell us how 'pathetic' you and I really are. I'm sorry that you are so ashamed of America, that's really pathetic. What city, town, state, or country doesn't have its flaws?
Nobody can deny that this woman has psychiatric problems. She has blatantly lied several times over. You can't tell me that food stamps and SSI isn't welfare. It is public assistance. Financial Aid is also welfare because of the context she is using it in. Besides student loans, people need to realize that she is probably getting a ton of grants.
No, you can't punish the children; they are unfortunate victims in this sick woman's fantasy. However, the doctor that impregnated her was negligent to say the least. This woman admits to taking a risk but she recklessly endangered innocent lives. Elective reduction IS NOT MURDER under these circumstances. We are not dogs; the human body was never designed to carry eight fetuses to term. Are you saying that having eight severely compromised babies is better than having one healthy child? Have you even seen these babies? They are not healthy. And nobody can deny the fact that spending the first few months of life in ICU (and being held by your mother for 45 minutes a day) is far from ideal. There is a good chance that these children are going to have learning disabilities, behavioral problems, feeding problems, or worse.
I think the whole point here is that octomom didn't have the best interest her children in mind from the outset. What about the six children she already has? Did you hear what her children had to say about this mess? One girl said her mom was going to be stressed out all the time. One of her boys said it's going to be "squishy" and there will be a lot of cribs all over the place and a lot of crying. How sad.
While everyone has the right to look pretty, how do you suppose this woman is going to change a diaper with those hideous nails? That's not even practical or safe. I could just see her gouging one of her babies with those suckers. And if her lips really are natural, that must be one place she gained a few pounds. It really does look like someone went crazy with the botox. I mean, come on. Even if she was born with such monstrosities for lips, what does it matter to you? Are you that concerned about the salvation of people on this board? Worry about yourself!
colleen : all 8 babies are already on assistance. California has a healthy families program that is paying the costs of the babies hospital bills and they also have a program called ccs . CCS ... because of the premature and low birth weights and risk of learning disabilities .... these babies will start an early intervention program and go to school at a young age .. this is all state funded. It is not a hasty generalization that they will get assistance ... it is a fact. They are already getting some type of assistance. Nadya isn't paying the hospital bills.
Daydreamr: Everything you said I agree with ... wish I would have said it myself. One thing no one mentions though is ...... I hate to bring up the nail thing but, most bacteria and germs grow under the nails. I have a daughter with a low immune system , and those little babies don't have much of an immune system either. I keep my nails very short because I want what is best for my daughter. I wouldn't want to scratch her either.. The Dr. is the one who explained the nail thing to me, too bad they didn't explain it to Nadya. What am I thinking ???? It wouldn't matter anyhow cause it is all about her and what she wants. Silly me.
I dont understand why everyone is mad at her... she is just taking advantage of a system designed for this type of behavior. Shes just little more of a higher class Maury Povich guest, shes made to network tv. Props to NBC for such a ground breaking story. I cant believe im not seeing more support from the "womens rights" crowd
Jason; spoken like a true sexist. The "women's rights" crowd don't believe in milking the system...they understand that it is correct to 'do it for yourself'. Maybe that's why you haven't noticed their support.
why any women in the women's rights crowd would support a woman who do such an irresponsible act as this woman is beyond me. Most people do not advocate child abuse, neglect or freeloading.
I have 1 grown child, when he was small I couldn't support him without assistance for a few years. I wanted more children but instead had my tubes tied as it would have been unfair to have more when it's a battle supporting one. Welfare is supposed to be a helping hand so the person receiving it can improve their station in life. It is not meant to be a lifestyle.
Women's right bull, what about child rights. She will be getting 350.00 a month per child, food stamps medical bills, and her parents got the house for her she is living in. I feel sorry for her mother, she is having to do all the work. Children's rights and tax payers rights take the kids away, ggive her a hysterectomy. and she can either go to work or starve who cares.It is a little rough but the children will not get the love or education they need with her. She should also be checked for a mental condition.
I think everyone is missing the true cause for this woman's actions
I believe that it is much more likely to be ATTENTION not money when it all boils down.
She was an only child. who had all of the attention all the time. And when women raised in that kind of environment have kids THEY NO LONGER HAVE ALL THE ATTENTION, and use their own children as a means to restore the attention to them.
Let's see...first, she's from California. Second, she has a set of lips that could give Mick Jagger's a run for his money. Conclusion? Not only is she on the government dole, but she has time to get her nails done and catch an occasional botox injection along the way! They should have spayed her when they had the chance!
Believe me...she will be duping the government out of a lot more than $490/month if three of the kids at home are disabled...and that doesn't allow for the fact that many premees wind up with disabilities...so possibly eight more!
Stevo: Simple --- by hysterectomy or biklateral tubal ligation, relatively standard gyn surgical procedures.
Another thing, if she baubbles about her not on welfare, she should return the all welfare checks and food stamps, or. give the State of California a refund for all the monies she has received, and, live up to her allegations!
"Fixing her" is useless. Remember, she had IVF, thus bypassing the tubes (hers were blocked, thus the reason for IVF in the first place) however, I feel she needs to be intutionalized and these babies given a home that can support and LOVE them.
And what about the $1.5 to $3 Million bill she'll be running up at the hospital where these babies were delivered and will be cared for until they're healthy enough to leave the hospital? Will her health insurance cover that? (Or does she even HAVE any?)
If not, guess who gets to pick up the tab?
I know not everyone will agree, but I hope she DOES get lucrative book and movie deals out of this. I doubt she'd ever get wealthy from that...she'd be spending every penny of it to raise her 14 kids. The advantage, for California taxpayers, would be that she and her brood would, for the most part, be off the welfare rolls.
What are youtalking about sherri? You mean she shouldnt raise her kids on the gov tab, and still make a profit for herself? What she is doing is sooo progressive!
sherri2012, what you say makes a certain sense: with TV appearances, selling books and movie rights she might make enough money to support those kids without help from the taxpayers. All the not-too-smart people who don't have a life and spend the day watching 'reality TV' or Oprah, or reading News of the World, or People Magazine, or other trash will pay for her, and the U.S. will keep on becoming a dumber and dumber place.
Sherri, do you really believe that she would spend the money on those kids. If you believe that then (no offense) but you may be just as delusional as she is.
The problem Sherri with this idea is, when she has another bit of depression when the kids hit say 3-6 months and come home she will take her lucrative book deal money and have more babies! I mean come on! 14 gets her 2mil and a house what will 20 give her? or the other delusional women sitting at home watching these psycho baby factories and decide they want to get in on the free ride, But wait now 8 has been done it is old news, not a lucrative now as say 9 or 10! hmm maybe that will net 3mil for a story!
Sherri, I don't believe that further dumbing down of american populace is a good idea..... We already have Jerry Springer Show... Just think - how many unstables will want to repeat what she did... Book? Been able to read and waste precious time to find out what some hired writer put on paper for this trailer trash? Watch show? Follow closely that illogical foggy nonsense that this lunatic is spewing and pretend that it makes a sense? And I love the fact that she has a publicist.... Why on Earth the person that wants privacy would have a publicist? Especially the one that will enthusiastically whore himself and his keyboard to any crook and liar that smells like money.....?
This woman gets crazier and crazier. I can not believe that she was unthruthful on national tv. So now we find out she does get government assistance (food stamps, disability etc.). These eight babies deserve a better life. Nadya Suleman is dullusional.
Why does a woman that needs assistance and has 6 now 14 kids, have the extra time or money to go get her nails done?
Funny! I was totally thinking the same thing. I'm pregnant and have 3 kids, and I'm lucky if I have time to shower after meeting the needs of my 3 children. Get my nails done...yeah right.
And that's with a loving and supportive husband backing me up every step of the way. Any money she makes on book deals had better go to paying off the hospital bills. The government will end up pulling the kids out of that home when it's proven she's incapable of taking care of them.
how can she afford a publicist when she is on welfare? and yes...she gets public monies for the children she already has!
I hope there is investigation from Los Angeles County on this psycho. Those children do not belong with her. Everthing is all about her. Wonder where she got the money to inflate her lips. Her priorities are all wrong.
Poor excuse for a mother. Draining tax payers dollars for this is nonsense. I am so disappointed in the Today show for even puttting her on television. They are giving her exactly what she wanted attention at the expense of her children
I have a feeling we're going to hear even more shocking news about this woman as time goes on.
This woman is out for one person's interest, and one alone ... hers. She doesn't care about children beyond being a source of "paper," as in money. As a hard-working taxpayer with a back injury from a previous job (from which I collected $0 on disability - I worked through the pain), I am tired of people like this woman, and many like her, who work the system and drain it dry. This is a fitting example of why California is in a $40 billion deficit.
For those who say the negative comments about this woman (I refuse to mention her name) is disgusting and sad, I can only say to you, call our legislators and offer donations every month to this woman for the next 18 years and then follow through with it. If you don't, you're hypocritical and would be better served thinking about your own actions.
These 14 kids are going to suffer greatly (and apparently already are) but there are millions more in this country alone that suffer more and I don't believe putting the interests of these 14 ahead of all those others is responsible or reasonable. This woman created this mess and she needs to solve it by herself.
I'm glad they're investigating the doctor, but I'm still waiting for the Disability agency to investigate this woman for fraud.
More importantly, I'm waiting for NBC to drop this trash from its news organization. Just a few more steps and I'm permanently heading to ABC or CNN.
why am I paying to raise her bastards??
Ok, so she's on welfare, but she can afford a nose job and obviously some lip work. Only in California.
I can't imagine a fertility clinic implanting a woman who already had 6 children, who has no husband, who is on welfare, and who has 3 children of her children receiving disability. Fertility treatment is NOT cheap, did she put down in money up front? If she had that kind of money, how could she be on food stamps? There is so much to this story that is yet to be uncovered! Is she sleeping with the fertility doc or blackmailing him/her?
Regardless of how she managed to convince the fertility clinic she should be once again receive IVF, she is in no mental state to raise 14 children. Is she a pathological liar or just very manipulative? Food stamps are not welfare? Why DOES she consider to be welfare?
Wow, this story is getting more and more bizzare. First, there was the grandfather and that so called friend who said she has money and could afford to take care of her kids. Then the mother got on national TV and say she is not receiving welfare. Now it is proven that she is indeed receiving welfare. What's next?
The state really need to take action by removing those kids from that disfunctional home.
Kevin Q,
Why are you disparaging innocent children? I can understand you not wanting to pay for their upbringing but they have done nothing to be labeled bastards because there are no bastard children - just bastard parents. Vent your anger at the mother, not the children.
1. remove all of her children to foster care
2. put this crazy female in a soft fertile place like a pile cow poop mound, use a front loader to make it deep
3.drop her in, what a foocking nutbucket, living on my dollar, very offensive
4.I am very offended
5.disgusted
6. I would suggest a new Mars space mission, she can find out if we can breathe there, prolly cost the same as how many children she spewed out for me to pay for
7. was this POS born here?
8.disgusted, very disgusted
9. Who paid for her duck lips? Lip fillers are not cheap.
Well apparently food stamps is no longer considered 'government aid' and neither is SSI. Last time I checked food stamps is a program funded by taxpayers dollars and administered through the government and SSI is also funded by the taxpayers and adminstered by the government. All free money she is using to live off the taxpayers of the state of California. Her college education is also being paid for by the taxpayers of California. She has a lot of nerve acting as if she is not living off of others. She is not only profitting off the taxpayers, and getting an education she is living off her children. She is also guaranteed on Medical for her and her childrens health care.........also paid for by the taxpayers of California. She I am sure also will not consider the money she will get from SSI for the low weight babies she has had living off the government either. This woman is the worst example of why the welfare system and the entitlement era no longer works. These programs were set up as temporary aid not to live off permanently..........unfortunately there are so many people just like her living off the rest of us. California needs to revamp welfare, and food stamps to limit the dollar amount as well as the timeframe she and others who live off it for years and years. Washington state did just that. The state was going broke paying women who lived off welfare and food stamps for their entire lives. They limit the dollar amount they give. Once you have three kids that is all the money you get........if you have more you better learn to stretch a buck. They also limit the timeframe to 2/1/2/1/1 and off. Meaning you can be on 2 years then you must be off for one full year before applying again. Then you can be on for another 2 years then must be off one year. Then you are allowed one last full year of benefits and then you are cut off. You get a total of 5 years period. So no more spending your entire adult life on welfare and then zipping off to social security.
People like this are breaking this country. This is why millions of people come here to squirt out their illegal children.........they get to live off the rest of us for free. Not to say that every illegal does this but the fact is they use the 14th amendment to have their kids be citizens........problem is that the amendment was meant for the children of slaves not every loser who can manage to sneak across the border and squirt their kid out on the hospitals dime(that is what happens......they have no social security # so the hospital can't put it on their credit report-the hospital eats the cost and it is passed on to those that pay the bills via higher medical fees).
We wonder why our country is a joke to the rest of the world. Look at this they hear about this and want to come here to live for free. No other country in the world will just let you sit on your a z z your whole life and live off the rest of the people. It is one thing to 'take care of the least of us' meaning the very old, the very young and those that are mentally or physically unable to care for themselves. It is something else altogether to foot the bill for someone who is capable of getting a job but chooses to squirt out children to avoid it and then expects to be placed on a pedestal and have her life paid for because her uterus works.
This woman is a complete disgrace to mothers and women everywhere. You should be ashamed.
ditto, ditto, ditto
Oh, so now THREE of her children are disabled. Un-f'ing-believeable. I was ready to strangle this dumb broad when I found out that one of her original SIX children was autistic, but then to learn two others are also disabled... oh, it's just too much. Please, social services, intervene and save those poor children and the helpless babies. This woman is repulsive, selfish, and mentally ill.
Winkie- try living in California and illegal mother can not get the money part of welfare for herself but her kids can she does however get to have for herself and children free medical and food stamps and the five year rule is not for illegal's as they are at a disadvantage being here illegaly and can't get a job because of that. Guess what there being illegal also helps them get housing before others too because of this disadvantage
looks like she has lip implants too, or someone punched her in the mouth...she had these babies so that she will be supported the rest of her life by the government or the royalties she knows she will get from books, movies commercials,etc. that is why she hired a spokes person right away...is she even legal in this country?
I want to hear about this Dr. He has to be a huge part of this. For days we hear about 1 child being disabled and now 3..........You have to get a Dr.s order to apply for SSI. The lips and nose, I wonder if he did that also. Who is this Dr. guy?
I went on <radaronline> like other posters did. The house is filthy. Truly disgusting. Grandma looks worn out. Nadya's lips are quite a bit thinner.
***** When I first heard that she was "single" and lived with her parents....I just knew that state help (money) was being used. Sad to say, it seems like the grandparents paid everything while Nadya spent her money on (more) in vitro and plastic surgery.
***** Something is going to happen...and it is NOT going to be pretty. This woman is NOT mentally stable and she will probably crack with all the responsibility IF she keeps those kids without sufficient childcare help!
***** I "know"....I am bipolar and went through h*ll raising four kids......at least I "only" had four.....(luckily today all are productive adults).....
"I am sick of this country breeding idiots."
Then Jack, go get a vasectomy, or a hysterectomy. Whichever applies. These kids are not the problem, and don't deserve to KILLED because their mother doesn't seem to be playing with a full deck. Or because some money hungry fertility doctor didn't care about the consequences of his/her actions. Take it out on the proper people, but leave the kids out of it.
First two words - "I'm pissed".
I am not pissed that she has eight kids. I am pissed that she is is too stupid and lazy to get herself financially stable to have as many kids as her vag can take. But to be so irresponsible to have other citizens support your kids with foods stamps and tax dollars. And just a little salt in the wound she does not think that is welfare. I would love to smack her upside the head and tell her I don't think that is violent.
Take care of your own freaking family if you are healthy and capable! POS!
oh, my, hate to say this, but I think I might just be leaning a bit more towards Jack's line of thinking. if Jack is a resident of california, he is going to have to pay for these kids for their whole lives. while advocating putting down a bunch of special needs kids is a sick thing, I can't say it is more disturbing than this woman's actions. This whole family is broken, and while I would never push for their deaths, I don't think I could get in the way of the angry mob, either.
I just don't know here, this is so far beyond sane that I am still shocked and not sure how to react. But I strongly agree with a bunch of people here in one way.... this is not the end of the story, this is only the begining. it's gonna get way worse. you can almost feel the ICKKK coming towards us.
"In a country with any real logic and common sense, this woman and her bastard, disabled children would be euthanized.
Situations like this serve to illustrate that this country has become completely dysfunctional.
There should be a license required to breed, and every citizen of this country should have a locked valve inserted into their tubes which is only unlocked when it can be proved one can bring an intelligent, productive and self-sufficient human being into this world.
Call me whatever names you wish, I don't give a damn. I am sick of this country breeding idiots. We are becoming a third world nation because of this insanity. I support not just zero population growth, but negative population growth. We are overrun by morons."
Something, I'm guessing, that should have been utilized in your family?
this lady is a useless piece of sh*t. she does not deserve welfare, she is a useless piece of crap. just what we need more people who can't afford to pay for their thousands of children. this world is so unjust!!!!!
This ho is horny.
This whole episode is disgusting. Where in the hell does this single mommy on welfare get the money for her fertility clinic? Millions of questions that boil down to this broad is a nutjob, and her doctor should have his liscense pulled
Delicious Truth. On a technicality you lose. Seek out the definition of bastard. This is a child born out of wedlock. There are now eight new ones. I agree the children should not be disparaged, but the definition of bastard child still stands
Can we get away from reading anymore crap about this alien mother from another country. She is in no way news despite the fact that she sucks off the common taxpayer. Change the laws. If she had to pay for everyone of those kid's education in private school, she would of sung a different tune. Again, change the laws.
I can't grow out my nails or get them done for that matter. Because I scratch my kids and babies on accident when they jump in my arms or changing diapers.
BTW I KNEW SHE WAS LYING!!
She should truly be closely watched by child protective services, she so obviously did this for herself, the children are nothing but money makers.
This woman is a total fraud. Her health benefit claims are fraudulent, her explanations are fraudulent, her method of reproduction is fraudulent, even her physical appearance is fraudulent (lip- and nose-jobs are obvious: she sort of resembles The Joker now). She is a sociopathic liar. Why should anyone believe a word she says about ANYTHING?
It does seems obvious that she has hidden money that she had from the government, she is required by law to report any change in income (be it a gift or whatever) that she gets when on welfare or any changes in family size, now that her family size has changed I wonder how much more food stamps she will be eligible for now that she has several more mouths to feed, Grrrrrrrrrr
Being she with held the information that she had so much money to do everything that she has done, I wonder if they are looking into pressing charges on her for fraud.
In this day an age with so many struggling with the way the economy is people like her really make my blood boil, she obviously knows how to work the system to her advantage.
I pay taxes on my unemployment every week now(which isn't much to begin with), because I'm a dislocated worker, and I'm having to help pay for this!!!! Somethings wrong with that picture. Wish we could give her a lie detector test to have all her true motives really brought out.
If she is not charged with fraud and gets to keep all these kids, I would like to see her get some TV and book deals, not for her sake but for the sake of getting her azz off the welfare roll so we are not the ones paying for them for the rest of their lives, I just wish if deals are made that they could set it up so that all the monies made went into trusts for each child, and she was only allowed to use just barley enough to survive and stay off welfare, and if they get taken away, to still do stories and put it in trusts for the kids.
What a great idea...have 14 kids and let American taxpayers pay to raise them. She cant even take care of herself, let alone 14 kids.
I wonder what kind of medical coverage she has. Who is going to foot the bill for this? Can we honestly expect her to tell the truth as her type of coverage is confidential due to the Hippa laws? I am highly dissapointed with Ann Curry for doing the interview as it has given this person what she wanted. I refuse to even call her a mother as a mother wouldn't intentionally have so many babies at once endangering even one of their lives. I am appalled at her actions and I hope that I am not the only one. I hope that none of the media outlets give her a dime and I hope that those kids are taken away from her as she can't even care for the ones she had before the 8.
Jack V, what you said was totally disgusting. We do not live in Nazi Germany!
I have 6 kids and it would be a cold day in hell before my house would ever look like that. This woman has been away for 2 months in the hospital, what exactly has this grandmother been doing, besides letting these kids run wild and sitting on her a$$, that this house got this bad in the first place? Funny how they didnt show pictures of the grandmother's room or the rest of the house! I bet that entire house is filthy! They live in California, they need to get ahold of that "Clean House" show and have someone come in there and clean that mess up. While there at it call Nanny 911 and get someone to get those kids under control. Once they clear up that whole mess call Adoption Stories and see if they can find some suitable families to provide loving homes to those children so they have a chance at life, something I dont see happening in that dysfunctional household.
I used to think maybe this woman just loved kids but the more I hear about her and the more that surfaces what she is really like, those kids dont have a chance in hell if left in her hands! This story just gets sadder by the day.
Shame on her for profiting off of this ! It borders on child abuse ! How in the world can she afford to raise and care for all 14 of those poor children? Oh wait, she can look to the taxpayers and our handout programs. Congrats on milking the system! What a disgrace!
What do you expect? She has 14 children, 6 previously. She has no job and her parents have no jobs. Is this such a total surprise? Money just doesn't get dropped off at her door step. Put a limit on the number of children that the state or federal government will give assistance to. Any more than that number and they are on their own.
How very sad for the children ,and tax payers. I don't want to judge, but I feel the people will once again be paying their Social Security (Retirement), and tax dollars. Something has to be done about the greed in America! What are we teaching our children?
After the shouting dies down, the sad part of the story is that this woman has legitimate mental impairment. I'm not a Dr. but by any definition she has a mental disease or deficiency. I think the crimes include the fertility Dr who violated the Hippocratic oath by clearly doing harm to this woman by aiding and abetting her mental disease.
Not sure what the solution is. Forced Sterilization of mental patients and low IQ people? The Nazis tried it , I dont think we wish to follow in their footsteps.
Set a maximum # of children per family? I was one of 5 kids, and yes these days I scratch my head when I see a family larger than 5 or 6, but one man's cieling is another man's floor. I think the Amercian obsession with welfare and not liking to see poor people add to families that they already cannot afford further clouds the issue on the table.
This woman has made Welfare a lifestyle.
And what if some crazy person wants to marry this woman and have kids of their own? Obsurde, at the very least. And the kicker is, she thinks she is sane.
Her poor, poor parents.
Maybe some one will give her some database software so she can keep up with her kids.
This woman is clearly looney tunes and has a host of psychological and emotional issues that need to be addressed. I can't help but wonder what it is she's passing into the gene pool with this artificial litter, uh, birthing of eight. Mike Judge's dark comedy IDIOCRACY (where, because intelligent people practice birth control and supid people don't, humans are devolving into idiots) is looking more prophetic every day.
Yeah, what is with those lips?!? They are NOT normal, whoever did the injections should lose his licence, I've seen better looking lips on a carp. I know it's mean, but how can she be getting cosmetic treatments when she (WE) are paying for all of those kids?
After the anger within me subsides, I feel just completely sad for the kids she has brought into this world.
What made me sick was reading some of the hate filled posts from some. Don't you have anything better to do? She made some terrible choices, we all agree. Can you say that without saying awful things and threatening remarks?
Catherine-857430
This woman gets crazier and crazier. I can not believe that she was unthruthful on national tv. So now we find out she does get government assistance (food stamps, disability etc.). These eight babies deserve a better life. Nadya Suleman is dullusional.
Why does a woman that needs assistance and has 6 now 14 kids, have the extra time or money to go get her nails done?
Catherine-857430, you can not believe someone would be untruthful on national TV?? LMFAOOO!!!
'Heavenly Father, we come before you today to ask your forgiveness and to seek your direction and guidance. We know Your Word says, 'Woe to those who call evil good,' but that is exactly what we have done.. We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and reversed our values. We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery. We have rewarded laziness and called it welfare. We have killed our unborn and called it choice. We have shot abortionists and called it justifiable. We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self esteem. We have abused power and called it politics. We have coveted our neighbor's possessions and called it ambition. We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression. We have ridiculed the time-honored values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment. Search us, Oh God, and know our hearts today; cleanse us from every sin and Set us free. Amen!'
Commentator Paul Harvey aired this prayer on his radio program, 'The Rest of the Story,' and received a larger response to this program than any other he has ever aired. With the Lord's help, may this prayer sweep over our nation and wholeheartedly become our desire so that we again can be called 'One nation under God.'
What DOES she consider welfare then, if she thinks Food Stamps and Social Security aren't?
As for her acrylic nails and (alleged) cosmetic work, she's getting goverment assistance, sure she can afford it! I've seen a lot of women pay with foodstamps and they had their hair and nails done, and drove brand-new cars. All it takes is knowing how to work the system, which Ms. suleman has obviously mastered.
Some people need to look up the definition of the term "bastard".
He's not. He's calling it like it is. This woman has fourteen bastard children. Get over how you feel about words in the English language. His statement does not disparage the children. Crap, our president was raised a bastard and is an inspiration to millions, perhaps billions worldwide.
Kevin laments tax dollars - public resources - supporting children purposely born to a woman without the means to do so herself. These children are the result of an unfortunate circumstance, or love, or anything of the sort. Stuff happens, we know that, and as a society we take care of each other. Implicit in that arrangement is the idea that we will not purposely burden our neighbors and that, when we have the means, we will help others.
lol I was thinking the same thing. How can she afford to get her nails done? And how the heck does she clean and care for her kids with nails like that? The fact is, she can't. Nails like that couldn't withstand the rigors of keeping up with what she needs to do on a daily basis. I have 3 children and fake nails would be a waste of money; they'd be broken the first day.
I KNEW there had to be more to this story. She's a liar. She really has deep seated psychological issues and her children really need to be taken away from her and put in homes where they can get what they need. Her saying she'll do the best that she can, is just NOT good enough. Just SICK, SICK, SICK, and the children, and taxpayers are the ones that will suffer here. The children's welfare should not be up for chance and it's a guarantee, she cannot deliver. Most two parent couples couldn't deliver; there's no way a single person could, much less a single person who is in great need of psychological help.
I'm not sure whether I should cry or be furious over this story. I am 35 years old and have been trying to get pregnant for years. My husband and I both have good jobs, work full time and have been saving our money for the last year and a half to pay for my upcoming IVF treatment. I don't understand where this woman, who is on disability and food stamps, got the money to pay for this procedure? It is really disheartening when people like myself and my husband, who are able to provide and would be thrilled with one healthy baby, wind up paying for crackpots like this to populate the earth with babies that are sure to have long-term health problems. I hope the medical board of California strips that doctor of his/her license for this unethical practice.
Right on! I noticed the nails too.
This woman belongs in a mental institution, and her children should be put up for adoption. Trouble is, most will have problems and not be very adoptable.
I know, send them all back to Iraq!
This story makes me sick to my stomache. The more and more I hear/read about this story I want to throw up. This woman lives off the tax payers. Those people that need help can't get it because of people like this just living off the system. Any smart american will tell you that if you get food stamps you are on welfare no matter what way you turn it. She has lied and got cought but what makes this so sad is she will still get money from people in this counrty feeling bad for her and wanting to help her out.
I have 3 kids, I'm one of the lucky few that are a stay at home mom (at least in this day and age), but there is no time in the day for me to think about going and getting my nails done...free time for me is after 9pm where its basicly get in the shower then go pick up and off to bed to start my day all over again. I wouldn't be suprised to hear in 2 years that all 14 kids where taken away from her.
I thought we all agreed the other day this woman was "amboo..amma..nutjob number 2" and that she was ripping US OFF IN TAXPAYERS" MONEY.??????
She sucks up to the media. We know the media writes on a third grade level, so we EXPECT THEY WILL HYPE AND PUMP UP THE NEWS STORY FOR THEIR OWN GLORY.
BUT OUR OWN GOVERNMENT?
HOW MANY TIMES IS THE US GOVERNMENT GOING TO ALLOW THE TAXPAYERS" OF THIS COUNTRY TO GET SCREWED?
WHERE IS THE GOVERNOR OF HER STATE? I HOLD THAT PERSON RESPONSIBLE...
See, this is exactly why reversible sterilization should be mandatory for anyone receiving any kind of government aid. If you can't afford to pay your own way then sorry, no kids for you.
Was there any doubt? Really? Not!
As to having time to do her nails? SHE LIVES WITH HER MOTHER AND FATHER!
The magnitude of the disgust this event creates is totally beyond words and reason.
She probably can get her nails done because she lives with her parents, you are right this woman is sick in her head and needs some help and maybe authorities need to get involved. Has anyone ever said who/how the fertility treatments are paid for?
"I can not believe that she was unthruthful on national tv." ??? the word is LIED.
untruthful??? WTF??
This woman is crazy like a fox she and milloins of others have devised methods to live off of the backs of working people and our State and Federal Government do gooders, have made it possible. These type of abuses will only multiply over the next 10 years.
Once again I am disgusted with this lady!
She is a mentality disturbed Liar!
She has 6 kids and now 8,Plus to add insult to injury her other 3 kids have "disabilities"!?!
How on earth can anyone,Married,single or otherwise bring 8 additional children into this world when you have Nothing to offer them!?
Give them up for adoption!!!
She is a selfish evil person!narcissism at its worse!!
DeliciousTruth
The definition of the word bastard is "a child born out of wedlock". It is not a swear word when used in that context. At least 8 of her children were born out of wedlock, therefore the term does apply to them.
Half of Nadya's 6 kids are receiving disability payments. Wonder how many of the new ones will also receive payments. It was already mentioned that having octuplets born prematurely is likely to cause some of the kids to develop medical problems, which will preclude them from living a normal life. So she had all 8 implanted, knowing that some would probably have medical problems the rest of their lives (and the chances were increased since half the kids she already had medical problems), but that was OK since she could simply get more money from SSI.
ahhh so this is how its done, pop out litters of children, make sure a couple are disabled, fake my own disability and im rolling in money, woo hoo, the secrets finally out people!!!!
on a more serious note, this is disgusting and unfair, im not exactly a big fan of large families because of the cost and mental wellfair of the children but as long as you can support them yourself who am i to judge, but i am going to judge this woman alright, lying evil and a fraud - if you have such a bad back you cant work how can you pop out 14 kids? if you are unemployed and on benefits how do you get fertility treatment, get your nails done and get your lips plumped up??
if you already have 6 kids and 3 are disabled, why would you have 8 more, isnt this the most selfish thing ever, how much extra attention and looking after do you think those 3 kids need, plus the 3 healthy ones, how can she possibly look after them properly??? this woman needs putting in prison for fraud, the government should never bankroll large familieis, pay for 2 kids, anything over that your on your own.
How many lies do WE hear in a day's time on national TV? Radio? We hear ideologies, at best. Some are out-and-out lies; seldom is truth spoken, unless it is happens live.
Someone needs to do a study as to the total cost of reporting about this woman. Salaries are tax deductable for the corporations, so is advertising. The media LIVES on the REAL taxpayers.
So, call it like it is. Not the way that we would all like it to be. This is the difference between REALISM and IDEALISM.
The sooner people stop paying attention to the MEDIA, the sooner their markets dry up and the sooner THEY all head BACK to E. Europe, S. Europe, Middle East, and W. Europe. The sooner the better.
How many billions will be sent through the charity systems today? Catholics, Jews, Episcopalians have 1000's of them.
This girl is seriously lost, and I do mean GIRL, not woman.
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I don't understand how anyone can have sympathy or even curiosity for this woman. I am pregnant with my first child and I lost my very good paying job this year due to the economic "crisis". My husband is supporting the both of us on his salary alone. We do not get public assistance or really any help from our families (other than the normal gifts for baby) because we live 600 miles away from our closest family members. My story is quite normal is this economic environment but this lady has gone far beyond any reasonable explanation for her actions. Feeding off the already broken system is disgusting and reprehensible. I hope her children are fine but I could give a rat's a** about her.
I was wondering the same thing... Where does she get the money to pay for her plastic surgery and IVF treatments. Both are obviously quite expensive for someone on welfare. Hmmm
For the record, the President was born to Mr & Mrs Barack Obama, and was therefore not a "bastard." He was raised by a single mother after his parents divorced, but was by no means born out of wedlock as the term implies. Many children are however, born to women who are not married and are therefore, in the strict sense of the word bastards, however it is fairly outmoded in its use as single parenthood is more widely accepted. Single parenthood with the intention to let the taxpayers support your children makes the irresponsible mother someone to disparage, not the child(ren). Just sayin'
She will be on an interview tonight with Ann Curry. How much did NBC pay for this "exclusive" interview? I am sure this is exactly what this woman was craving: money and media attention. And NBC is biting. Anyone thinks she looks like another multiple child mother? (Angelina Jolie?) It just gets stranger. At least Angie can afford her children. One look at those tiny little faces and your heart just breaks for them.
Why would you be surprised about her truthfulness? Look at the appointees of Mr. Obama (BO for short). Speaking of truth, didn't it start with Mr. Clinton?
This story just keeps getting 'better & better'
How does someone on welfare get enough money set aside to PAY for the IVF? And we STILL need to know who the crazy doctor was who did this procedure to a welfare mother.
My husband heard she took out a lot of Student Loans to pay for the IVF, instead of spending it on education. Maybe so, since she doesn't know what welfare is. What, does she think we ALL get these handouts. America may be called the 'land of milk and honey', but someone has to pay for it. And I, like many of you, DON'T want to pay for this woman.
Damn straight. She needs to be kept barefoot and pregnant. What the hell's going on? Does she get nail-stamps too? Perhaps she has been watching these small business onwers who haven't had a custome lately yet the seem to live well. Do you suppose that these people receive mone from the Catholic, Jew, and/or Episcopalian Charities? My ex-in-laws had 18 kids. And, they lived pretty well. But, wait, they owned a radio station which played Top 50 music to perhaps as many as 35,000 people. Wow, 35,000 yet they lived well. They also sold advertising to maybe 100 people. Wow! So, here's one for ya. They all belonged to a nice country club, drove nice cars, lived in large houses, yet they actually DID squat. What suckers we all are! Suckas.
True American...what in the world does her truthfulness have anything to do with President Obama's appointees? Are YOU okay?
In 1933, 1% had 99% of the money, which meant that 99% had 1%. Also, earlier, in the 19th C., there was a potato famine in Ireland, which caused millions to migrate to the New World, where they arrived without money, without hope, and, oh, did I mention without? My g-g-grandparents, who were NOT Catholic, NOT Jews, NOT Episcopalians, and NOT Black, had managed through creativity, hard work, and frugality, to become fairly wealthy people. But, the maggots, whoops, sorry, the immigrants, had arrived in force which meant that dividing of the wealth had to occur UNLESS you were influential Catholic, Jew and/or Episcopalian. This amounted to my ancestors, plaining spoken, going broke. Their families were separated and moved to the western, unsettled states where they managed to live without MONEY. Now, 3 generations later, here I am on a computer here to tell all of YOU who screwed my ancestors out of their MONEY via coercion, extortion, and the like, that you are going to get %$#&@* in the butt BY ME w/o K-Y, figuratively speaking.
Oh yes, Dr. Synderman, the NBC Analyst, will enlighten us all. Armed with the corporate card and the NBC Dole, she will tell us all we needed to know.
When I watch people such as Dr. Synderman, I wonder how many biology tests, on which this bitch really got a B but ended up with an A. I watched this happen all too many times at the U. of Iowa, knowing that this was just one school.
%^#$ 'em, &@$# 'em, *#% 'em.
It is a proven fact that one person can only care for the needs of five other individuals. Even if you are a licensed day care provider you can only watch no more than 10 children in my state. There is no way that she will be able to meet the children's needs and give them what they need to thrive and grow properly. IT is a sad situation.
Three disabled children... Does this not send up a red flag or some kind of alert?
The state needs to take away these children and give them to families who will take care of them and give them real love. These children aren't fashion accessories or welfare checks.
Who paid for this very costly procedure for her to get pregnant??? I have not followed this story closely and was just wondering who paid for it. If she was already on assistance there is no way she could have afforded to get pregnant like this. IT costs more than ten grand!!!! I think whoever paid for it had plans for a movie and book deal and are exploiting these children!!!! Call child protective services! This is ridiculous!
Gee-and why is California in need of a bail out? How much did the state fork over for her invito-fertilization? These poor kids are entitled to free college educations too! Darn it! You can have it all in California! Full speed ahead in spending-so long as the Federal Government bails you out. Its funny, the normal lefties on this site are appauled at this story-you and your entitlements allowed this to happen. Blame yourself.
She's a super-freak, super-freak, she's super freaky.
You're surprised that she lied! What an idiot. She's been a scammer since day one. She sees child production as a way to increase her income and never work. Uncommon for a white girl, but since "we're all one" now, everyone should just become lazy, dishonest and a burden on society. People like her are why abortion should be mandatory-not just legal-in some cases.
I'm sure someone has thought of this before, but it bears saying that even though the "father" has deer in the headlights syndrome now, what does anyone want to bet that these two end up hooking up and some sort of reality show comes out of it?
I mean, aren't sperm donors usually supposed to remain anonymous?? How come she *knows* this guy and how come she's in contact with him?? I think they have some sort of scam going--scamming the government, the public, her parents (poor woman looks totally bedraggled and obviously is having trouble keeping up with the six; she must be scared sh!tle$$ at the thought of 14!!), and now here comes the media!!
I agree with everyone else--this is shameless and insane, and I hope most, if not ALL 14 of the children are taken away from this woman. I'd feel badly for the grandmother, but she just doesn't look like she can do it for much longer (like someone else said, look at the house, and I DON'T blame the grandmother!!). I'd also feel bad for the children missing their grandmother after she's cared for them after all these years, but they would be better off.
As for the sad sack mother, they should sew her shut! Or, at the very least, take all her not-welfare away!
WTF MSNBC.. Why pubicly humiliate this one woman? You can`t be that hard up.
Is it the general irresponsibility factor that has got everyone so angry about this story?
I'm all for a person realizing their dreams whatever they may be as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else directly or indirectly. Giving birth to eight babies at the same time is not so much irresponsible as it is freaky. I can't help but compare the situation to a litter of puppies. Forgive me if I offend anyone but it's just kind of freaky and that maybe science is going too far here, I mean think about how much a female human body gives of itself to give one fetus all the nutrients and other things it needs to develop normally. It's alot of work and literally drains the mom and in some cases actually kills the mother. Twins and on very rare occasions, triplets are a NATURAL wonder and even then often times one of the babies of a multiple birth will have some medical issues due to the mother's inability to provide fully for more than one baby so I have a hard time understanding how one body can develop so many lives at once and there not be serious consequences for one or more of them and knowing this why would anyone in their right responsible mind want to put a child through it in the first place. That's all I want to know. Thank you.
OMG, I noticed that too, about her nails! Do you know how expensive the upkeep is on those nails. Every two weeks, if not more often! I used to have them but my hands were in water too much, and I only have one kid!!!! She also has a Nanny! Didn't anyone notice that? A Nanny!!! Who is paying for the Nanny?! I bet her house is a mess!
Obama may as well allocate 1 billion of the bail out to support this crazy woman and her kids. SIX of the new ones will need assistance all of their lives from disabilities.
How did she ever get the money for in vitro anyway??????
If you think the house is pit now just wait until the 8 babies arrive home. I have always thought once you have one child and are on welfare that's it. That's all the government/taxpayer should have to tolerate. You want the freedom of choice? Well there ya go. Choose birth control. This is BS, and she is a woman of ill repute.
I know it's not the kids fault but it's not mine either, nor is it my responsibility as a responsible American taxpayer.
Well,
My wife can do a french nail job on her self better than this nut job..and maybe someone simply popped her it the mouth....I payed out over 10K last year in fed med ss and state...Gee whizzz Im so happy to be raising 16 kids now...with her 14. as for supporting illeagles..BS I went through alot of cash paperwork and BS to immigrate my wife here legally...This is a crock. I support my wife, the main issue with it was did I make enough money to care for my family....why do they watch people who do the right thing, then turn and give these people the benifits for free...
I am not angry at this woman for having all these babies, I am, however, angry that she wants to use welfare and student loans to support the chidren and, with the economy the way it is shoot no body should be having any babies one or eight.
However, I do give her credit for the desire to want her children and love her children. If you go to adoptuskids.org you will see all of the thousands of children in foster homes because their parents don't even want them. Yes financially she is soo wrong for what she is doing but morally and personally who are we to judge her for what she wants to do.
Yes I am saying what she has done is fine by me. Well, how many of you men who are passing judgement don't even pay child support or even spend daily time with your children probably have children that don't even know you, and you probably don't even know them. How many women out there passing judgement; your children are at someone elses home or in the street and you don't even know what they are doing half the day when they aren't in school. Yea when you can be a perfect parent or God, then you might have the right to say something to this woman. Otherwise if you're not going to go help her shut up and mind your business.
GOSH, MY first collapsed by the community thingy, I feel so shamed, well actually not I said nothing that any HUMAN would say, well, the cow poop and the Mars mission thingy might be excessive and therefore could be an exception, my apologies
I dont think nothings wrong with having all those children and getting help isent that what the state is there for? to help people in need what ever happen to "our children are our future
nelsina~
What you don't understand and probably never will, is there are some of us that have never had any state assistance to raise our children. We didn't have children so the state could help us. It's not part of the plan...................."Our children are our future".....yes, not the governments. By the way, where did you get that idea?
It is one thing to have kids and take care of them to later on find ourselves in circumstances beyond our control and needing a little help, be it sickness or job loss at no fault of our own.
But to intentionally go out and have so many kids knowing from the get go that you will need so much help is sickening and using our tax paying money in order to help.
I agree with one persons statement in here, maybe they should get the doctor who implanted all these to help pay for all the hospital bills and the up bringing of all these kids. It would make him think twice about doing this again ya think!!
Why didn't she make sure she finished her education before she had these last 8 kids?
That way she would have been out of commission for a couple of month after they were born, and could return quickly to work.
She also stated she's only planning on getting help for just a little while till she finishes school so she can then support her self and her kids, It stated she was going to go to school to be a counselor, She is so full of BULLLLLLL, My Question is how could she not know that she would more than likely be forever needing food stamps(WELFARE) for a long long time, o I forgot food stamps is not conceidered welfare to her,lol, Lets say Even if she did go back to school and get her degree, Would it pay that well that she would no longer need assistance. I totally doubt it.
I mean heck look 14 kids, how much food, diapers,clothes,shoes, and how many baby sitters will she need to pay while at school and work?
Maybe welfare to work will be helping pay for all this too after all its not welfare right? Just there for a little help when needed for a short duration. What a total farce.
She is wanting to be a counselor?
She will be getting money one way or another be it us helping to support her and her kids through our tax dollars that we pay.
Or from book and movie deals. It is so sad to see her obtaining what goals she has intentionaly set out to do.
This story makes me so totally sad, Not for her, but for them children the things they will have to endure threw the years because of her incompetence.
I think she better change her field now, How many people now would conceider going to her? Hummm not me. Would you?
Clearly this woman is crazy. And she has a publicist? Unbelievable...
What person can call themselves a mother when they can only give 45 min. to each child a day. Thats if you stayed awake 14 hours per day. Kids need to bond and feel secure with a parent and a child with disabilities needs alot more time than the healthy children. I would call this neglect .. but, what am I talking about , this " so called mother" Loves her children so much she isn't even home with them she is running around doing interviews. I hope the state gets involved .......... to allow all this is so very sad for our society and sad for those children. I lived in California and they even put a limit on how many cats and dogs you can own in one house and in the city. Too many pets was neglectful aren't these children a little more important.
OMG!!! This crazy woman now has a web site accepting donations via internet. She has pictures of the babies and comments they are all healthy. What the heck .. I have never seen healthy babies look like that. Healthy babies don't need feeding tubes and healthy babies don't weigh 2lb. This woman is nuts. Insult to injury she is accepting visa, mastercard .. etc. The last time she had extra money she sure in the hell didn't spend it on her 6 kids. I just can't believe the nerve or stupidity..
What did she think she was going to feed eight babies with? Eight breasts???
Viva,
Your post reminds me of when my children were young - we purchased this toy for my step-father. It was called "Milky the Cow". It was purchased as something funny because he was a farmer before he entered our family. Perhaps Nadya needs a real life size "Milky" of her own.
Now she wants to MILKY all of us!!!!
Viva - exactly! I have written to Governor Arnold (even though I don't live in CA but do vacation there - no more!), and I'm going to write to President Obama as well
What is even worse, is that hundreds of others watch TV and get the idea to do it too. Kinda like yeah, if she can do it we can too. They figure the govt has lots of money, according to the way Obama is throwing it around...............
What kind of freak is the Octumom really? She pops out a liter of babies for attention, and money. The state should take her babies.
Because she can!
She's so delluded that she thinks food stamps and SSI are not types of assistance? You have got to be kidding me. And to think her publicist said that everyone's opinon of her would change once we heard her story. <insert eye rolling here> She disgusts me. I feel sorry for her children and the life they will be denied because their mother is mentally unstable.
Now we have a real life "WELFARE QUEEN." Imagine that.
Perhaps Congress can appropriate $10,000,000 to her from the stimulus package. Carve out a nice, clean welfare package for her directly.
Just remember Hillary's book,"It Takes a Village". Let Hillary pick up the tab. I do feel sorry for the children. They are being used as a meal ticket. The Mom is a total moron and I hope all the dumb liberals take note on how far the system can be used. Poor taxpayers, work harder to pay for the morons.
VIV...How is this a political problem? If you actually read Clinton's book, you would realize that the implication was that a child is a product of it's influences. What kind of influence are you?
Ok, now we find out she is too stupid or delusional to tell the truth about the welfare she is receiving. No big shock there.
But also consider this. 50% of the children she already had are disabled. Did the fertility clinic take this into consideration when they let her implant more eggs?????!!!! I'm not liking those odds and neither should have her Dr.
Oh, she WANTED all of them? She's going embrace ALL of them? I'd like to see that. Her own parents are completely disgusted with her. They should have booted her out of the house instead of letting her back in, so that she could play fertility goddess somewhere else. I think the fertility doctor and his clinic are being investigated. I'm just curious to see what these fourteen hapless souls will be like when they get to the terrible twos, the impossible threes, the curious exploratory fours and fives, and then turn into teens. Gee, she's got her own street gang there. They could all get together and sell dope on the corner to support her, since she is sponging off everyone around her.
My son was born with Cerebal Palsy due to a doctors negligence and although it took us 13 longs years to finally win in court , great system, we won. The doctor due to his own actions covered a lifetime of medical issues he forced on my son. This fertility doc should face the same fate and be made to fund his SCREW UPS. These kids didnt ask to be the product of Mr and Mrs Frankenstien but they will pay the price. This woman ( and i use the word losely) should be steralized so there can be no more products of a lost childhood such as hers. Hopefully the state child protection agency grows a set and puts these kids up for adoption to safe guard their well being and future. As of right now they are living in the twilight zone.
Ferrferr, so her publicist said that everyone's opinion about her would change when we knew more about her? That is the same comment made about another infamous female sociopath that is currently in the news. Nadya's publicist is not very good. Yesterday the publicist said that she is not responsible for her mother's messy house because she had been there or seen her children in 2 months (though she has had time for an extensive interview with NBC at an undisclosed location.)
to receive food stamps and SSI dont you have to apply for them from the goverment??? wonder what she thought she was doing in filling out this paperwork from the goverment.???
Hey Viva .... I'm a liberal, and obviously not as dumb as you seem to think they all are. See how much liberals are wanting to support her? Oh yeah, you see almost no support for this woman.
Viva, how dare you use this farce to bash Hillary Clinton when the Bush administration was the darling of the right to life whiners? Keep your political views out of this, this is the choice of ONE stupid, greedy woman.
You said it salem. Viva, Hillary has nothing to do with this, except, perhaps, to point out in her book title how much work it is to raise a child.
And, the doctor who implanted her so irresponsibly is most likely a conservatove, not a liberal.
so her publicist said that everyone's opinion about her would change when we knew more about her?
The publicist was right. My opinion has changed from just stupid to greedy, selfish, mentally incompetent, user, abuser and downright ignorant.
A42 your IQ is showing..........It is a political problem because the politicians from both sides have all the welfare structure, that not only encourages this idiot, but sustains her logic. She believes that someone will take care of her and her children. If you think she was not influenced by someone then think about how she has come to this point in her life. Then still using your thinking CAP, if you have one, think about how she will influence others with her stupidity. She is getting the on air time to promote this logic to other morons who will also want to live off the system, your tax money.
This is the extreme. How much assistance does the lady think would be available if everyone did this? This is exactly the type of person who takes advantage of the system designed to truly help those in need. Irresponsible decision making should not be rewarded.
How about rather than tax payer dollars paying for her welfare, make the doctor that agreed to perform her Invitro pay to raise her kids!
4 generations ago, people worked the system so that you could find 3 generations of walfare mom's, girls started having babies very early, to get the Xtra's.
Today, I believe we should require all who receive assistance to provide hours to pay for what they get. 14 kids or not. We have so many public service jobs, or clean streets/yards/parks. Work for what you get, no matter who you are.
This abuse is why taxpayers get tired of helping anyone. We just get tired of these sob stories.......what about my sob story? I am taking it away from my children to give it to hers. My husband and I work to support morons.
dennett, Hope I got this name right. It isn't only 4 generations ago, but is happening now.In our area I can name several of them and the sad part is there are people that really need it can't get it and are living on a couple hundred a month, and 23 dollars food stampsl Just need to know how to work it and seems like that is pased down in familys. welfare breeds welfare. They even get around the two year law then have to go to school get trained. don't do it.just keep moving county to county. But in calif. doen't have to no wonder they are broke,
The welfare denizens know how to work the system...have another baby, get a raise! Woo hoo! and make sure you have one under 5 at all times so you can get WIC.
The news agencies should stop promoting this obviously deceptive and dillusional woman. The state/county where she lives needs to really look at ALL of her children and get them to homes that can provide for them. Even her mother said she does not provide for these children and does most of the work raising these kids. If your own mother is turning on you, there is DEFINATELY a problem there.
Protect these children from the womb that delivered them.+
The coverage really pulled back when they found out the story. I will boycott any magazine/new coverage (NBC) CNN who pay for the chance to hear her story. She can't tell the truth from the start. But I wonder, does her parents tell the truth? Didn't her father say she had a big house she would be taking the children to, out of public eye. sounds like prison to me. I hate to think that the children have to be taken from her and put in separate faster homes, (cause the isn't one foster home that will take 14). I think her tubes should be tied. or she will have 6 more. Is the sperm donor required to pay support?
So, money is "just paper." I guess that's why Nadya doesn't think it's necessary to work for it.
Galen - I love your comment - you hit the nail right on the head!!
yeah, & 'toilet paper' is just paper too, but ya need money to buy it, unless you want to use leaves from the yard. this woman's nuttier than a squirrel-turd!
a juvenile comment like this just shows the level of thinking of this sick woman.no thinking outside the box here!!!!! she appears to be trying to be like angelina jolie ( her lips, dark hair) in a sorta psychotic way!!!!! if i did not see her make this comment,i would have sworn it was a 5 year old sayin it!!!!
Notice how quicky she said she would eagerly snatch up any money the public is willing to give her? You /know/ she's going to be wealthy. I want to vomit.
California Family and Child Services need to put an end to this farce right now. Go in and take the infants and children from this sick and delusional woman. There are good families, childless couples that are yearning to properly care for these children... and NOT AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE!!!!!!
I'm just curious how an obviously mentally unstable woman, on food stamps, with 6 kids half of whom are disabled, who lives with her mother, and is unemployed, managed to swing the cost of fertility treatments. I have no kids and I can't even afford a root canal. I would be very upset to see this woman got her litter implanted with taxpayer money.
LOL...I can't say I agree with everyone's negative thoughts regarding this woman, but I agree.
She reportedly used the money she received for a workman's comp/disability claim...actually two claims.
GOOD QUESTION!
She can't afford food, but she can pay for invitro?
That is trully a good question. She is a real good con-artist so I would like to know how she was able to beat the system. If you really listen to her interviews you can tell that her thinking is irrational. She speaks and sounds like a person in denial. Am I the only one to notice that?
She can't afford food but she can have her lips injected (trout pout). This women is disgusting. The taxpayers will be responsible for a lifetime of upkeep on this brood. Think of all the psychiatric and mental health bills will be coming down the pike for the taxpayers to pay. Psychiatric care for 14 kids. This will be astronomical for the tax payers of California and beyond.
She probably used the welfare money to make more children and pump up her duck lips.
williamgrey, so get upset how do you think she gets her medical bills paid.
You can't even imagine how angry and sick this makes me. As someone who has personally struggled for five and half years she has now offically made people more ignorant to the TRUE pain and hardships of infertility.. THANK YOU!!!! I would adopt one of those babies in a HEARTBEAT just to save them from this demented mother, and it looks like it could be a possibility if CPS has anything brain in their heads!!!!
I agree.. HOW DID she pay for fertility treatments?? I read where her mom said she was lying about the doctor that did her IVF. It was a different doctor. Doctors CAN refuse treatment if it goes against the best intrest and I'm sure her doc did. She probably went around and found a doc who would do this. I have a STRONG feeling she lied to him as well. That said, These poor children. I feel soo sorry for them. I honestly do. As someone who will have to go through IVF to have ONE child this gives us who are TRULEY suffering a bad name. I hate that because to not be able to have children is a true honest to God deep pain. I would never flaunt my babies like this. I would be proud and I would NOT mooch off the government as I have a stable job and don't want FOURTEEN children. Most who go through infertility just want ONE child. I'll get off my soapbox, but this touches so close to home. I could ring this mother's neck. HOW SELFISH!!! What a self centered BRAT!!!! Her parents I feel sorry for, but they are responsible for making this woman this way!!!!
Texaschick, I had the same thought. What else has she lied about and to whom.
I got a feeling this woman went to different fertility doctors and lied to them about how many kids she had.
It's woman like this that make it hard for others who have fertility issues. It causes others to group everyone with fertility issues into the same category when in actuality most woman with fertility issues would be perfectly happy with just one baby.
Good luck in your process.
Actually, I think I can understand how angry this makes you feel, texaschick.
There are illegals getting millions, including Obamas aunt.At least she's a crazy American.
She's working the system her way just as the Masters of The Universe worked the system their way.
If that's true, then this lady is about to get an additional 8 million.
Why only 8 million?For The Masters of the Universe thats only pocket change.
Where can I sign up for that? I have six cats to support.
Yes. Including Obama's illegal aunt living in Boston. GG, this is the only thing that makes me more disgusted than the IVF octuplets! Obama passes a stimulus package so he can support his...say it again...ILLEGAL AUNT IN BOSTON!
And let's not forget that the White House now wants MORE control over the 2010 census. How much longer will dear ole auntie Obama in Boston be illegal???????
Oh, I assure you, she will get her green card expeditiously issued--while we have clients in the firm I work for that have languished in the system for 14 years or longer waiting for the same thing, while working and breaking their backs to do things right. *ugh*
I am sorry but I want to know is if she is getting food stamps-how did she qualify? Did the fertility clinic implant her for free? I smell something very fishy.....
I smell something very fishy..... I bet that's why she has test tube babies
LMAO!!!!!!
It's the 'trout pout' hehehe
This woman does not have the slightest notion of what being a mother is. When you have children you love them no matter what they are. You don't burden them, and yourself, with more kids. That is selfish and it is cruel to the other children. You can't give 14 kids individual love and attention no matter how much of good health you are in or how "devoted" you are.
Three of the first ones are already disabled, probably mentally, something she forgot to "mention". I can't imagine what these eight other children will face now and when their older. If it's not physical it will most likely be psychological problems.
The state should take these kids away and give them to other families who will give them love and all the care they need and see that they do well in life. This woman will not be able to do that. She's just looking to get her next check.
She needs to be locked up in a mental institution.
I agree with you 100% . She is not even taking care of the children she already has. Who is watching the other 6 ? The parents that have been enabling her all this time? She is out running around doing interview after interview. I have 3 children and never feel like I have enough time to give them. Even if this woman did stay at home with all 14 kids at most she could give them 45 min of attention per child. I call that neglect in the most extreme way. I wouldn't even grace her with the term mother. If she had cared about the first 6 she would have been giving them her time love and devotion rather than running around like a freak trying to create more. God help all of those children .. they don't stand a chance with such a selfish womb donor.
I noticed the nails, too! I had four children and was lucky to have the time to CLIP my fingernails! I think this "woman" needs to be evaluated and have these children placed somewhere safe. She's crazy! She is not only putting a burdon on society, she is the reason that our Health Insurance Rates are so exorbitant!
i am surprised the neonatal icu allowed her to touch those infants with those nails. also, just a note , one of our recent newspapers reported last week that the amount of abuse/fraud in our state alone was $41-$43 million dollars per month. not per year per month. i'm sure this proposed stimulus plan will give each state enough to cover this plus any other cost of this kind that arises.
One thing that I have not seen discussed is Kaiser Permanente has to pay the millions of dollars but did not do the envitro. Seems to me the doctor that made this very questionable call (implanting six embryo's) should foot the bill.
but what if it was just the old turkey baster? Can't help but wonder.
You may be right, according to her she has many infertility issues, but she seems to have no problem carring a shild in her uterus. Perhaps she was selling her eggs to pay for the invtro and would used a baster for his. After all wasent there a story years back about sister who had her husband eject his sperm into a baster and then she gave it to her sister and it worked!! What a mess, her state of mind is totally off, she suffered from depression and thats what lead her to make these irresponsable decisions, the time line is off wack too if she really tried to get pregnate for 7 years that would make her 17 and yet she married when she was 23 , so who was she trying to have children with. And the nerve to say that the public can't embrace her unconventional ways is obsurd, 4 children would be acceptable 6 children would be considered unconventional, and 14 is just irresponsable and crazy
One of the stories mentioned that she used a different doctor for the 8 than for the previous 6. I wonder if she showed up and left out some parts of the story, such as "I have 6 kids already". What if she said all of her past treatments had failed, then the clinic went out of business, her medical records were "lost", etc?
Maybe this doctor was really unethical, or maybe they were a little too trusting of her story.
What about her boyfriend that donated all his sperm to her, all those kids are HIS, why shouldnt he have to pay for HIS children? He knew she wasnt going to drink the stuff! He KNEW what she wanted it for, it was her boyfriend! He needs to help pay his fair share for HIS children. Welcome to the world of responsibility DADDY!
The LA Times reported that the fertility treatments were done at West Coast IVF Clinic, which is run by Dr. Michael M. Kamrava. Also, "Kaiser Permanente's Bellflower Medical Center has asked California's health plan for the poor to cover the enormous cost of medical care for the eight premature infants".
I hope the govt says NO to helping her out.
NO words could do justice to this moran lady. What a @#@#@$#@@e.
q
Well, since she is delusional, she can be deemed an unfit mother, and her kids can be taken away from her and given to responsible people who will give them proper homes!
Personally I think she should be forcibly, surgerically sterilized and these new babies taken away from her. We're going to see this disturbed woman do this again and again and again.
There is something to be said for eugenics afterall.............
They ought to make the doctor who did the implants take casr of her and the kids! Hey, Maybe Traitor Pelosi could becaome a patriot and help her out and give her some of the millions she duped us out of?
And that wonderful president Bush who brought this country to it's knees financially and morally!
q
Childish Moron. Is that the best you can do?
Now I've got it figured out. She was implanted with 8 kids about the time Barry started promising to make all the poor minorities rich...she probably gave the fertility Dr. an IOU for when Barry made her and all the other poor people rich. So it seems to me that Barry should help support her, too. Oh wait, he WILL be doing that...with the stimulus money, and our tax dollars, and our children's tax dollars, and our grandchildren's tax dollars, and our great-grandchildren's tax dollars.....
You've forgotten about Bush's 700 Billion making the ultra rich even richer? What about all the debt he incurred? You just love him, and the way he's f'd this country right in it's arse!
Leave the bashing of President Bush somewhere else. If anything, the bashing ought to be sent to the political school of thought that says we are responsible for this woman's expenses -- spread the wealth -- take money from the pockets of the hard-working Americans and hand it out to those to lazy to work. Who does that sound like? Bill & Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Barack Obama?? Yepper! Now that I think about it, I am surprised this woman hasn't been offered some high government job in the new administration!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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There is no reasion to bring politics into this conversation. None of the Presidents had anything to do with it. Each state makes their own rules for welfare. People learn how to get around it. and this is wrong. I have worked since I was 13 and am now 79 didn't retire till 74. So think I have a right to say Welfare Breeds Welfare. If they don't know how you get pg. and keep having children do a hystorectomy cheaper than payng for all the kids. take the children out of those homes and give to people who will love them, and educate them.Take the mother off welfare, she can work. or starve. who cares.Wouldn't have to pay the people that take them there are so many that want children.
If we're going to bring Presidential politics into this, remember that she got pregnant on Bush's watch. Thereofre, it's all his fault.
Hey, A42 just said that it is not a political thaaaang.
Yeah, but O is going to pay it out with his TAX CUTS!!! I wonder how much her tax cut will be and then add on her earned income credit.
It is amazing that someone could be so delusional! That woman is in total denial, and desperately needs psychiatric help. Now we hear that three of her other children are disabled... and she went and had more! How crazier will the story get? I am waiting for the next installment...
This pathetic story is a hideous accident on the highway...disgusting, frightening, horrible, nauseating....but you can't look away.
If you buy her book or story then you will be giving her what she wants money.
She stated that she saved all the money for the treatment from working, so was this savings not reported to the food stamp program?
who is paying the $3 million dollar hospital tab?
raising children while committing fraud does not seem like a good roll model the the children
That woman did not pay for the in vitro. Perhaps she was a test subject to determine how much embryos could be successfully implanted.
who is paying for the hospital tab??? if she gets any sort of book/tv deal she should be forced to give the 1st $3m she makes to the hospital
keith
her stories are not adding up here. 1 and 1 is making 3. She is lying, and thinking people won't remember her lies, but she forgets, pissed off people remember everything! LOL
She shouldnt be allowed to touch any of the "paper" she gets from this. It should be put into a trust fund and used for the support of the kids ONLY! NO NAILS<HAIR DOS or any other thing woman get with paper for their own enjoyment. She shouldnt be allowed to prosper from cent one. Appoint a trustee to oversee the fund and use it justly, we all know how much those kids are gonna cost to raise. For any of the kids who develop a disability make the doctor who implanted them pay for the care. I'm no doctor but we've all heard how a birth like that is extremely risky. Well he gambled with those lives just the moron who delivered em so if theres a health problem he should pay.
I just saw my government give rich guys who make 80 MILLION a year 800 Billion in welfare...you guys are worried about a mom getting $490 a month? Freaks...
My sentiments exactly.
Yes, when there are thousands of people like her that are sucking the system dry... abusing the system so that when someone truly needs help, there won't be as much help available.
rock: I already expressed my outrage about those mafiosi taking over big business and ripping off the shareholders and now the taxpayers. Now I am turning my anger against another scam artist. I do not discriminate, she is on the same level but different scale.
Rock - just where do you come off with $490.00 per month? Each month she will cost we the tax payers $1400.00 in housing, $4200.00 in child care, $7400.00 in health care, $1800.00 in food stamps, $400.00 in transportation costs, $1800.00 in funding her education (she has already declared her intention to go to school rather than work - and to have the school care for her children). So Rock - where do you get your $490.00 per month figure?
rock, a scam artist aiming high or a scam artist aiming even higher is still a scam artist.
I also noticed her nails and it seems she has had a nose job. Some news media produced a picture of her taken a few years ago and her nose was fairly large.
I worry when anyone goes to such extremes to rip anyone off. I live in a small town and a bank employee just got arrested for stealin at least 10,000.00 from our small town bank in the 3 years she worked there. I'd be more sympathetic with this womens situation if she just had the six and hadn't saved her paycheck to spend HOW MUCH! for her invitro especially with 3 special need babies. Think of the resources she could have blessed these 3 babies with if the money had gone towards them. I am always hearing how expensive it is to even try get basic education and help with even one special needs child.
That woman has intentions of caring for any of those kids. They are all tokens in her scheme to get more money from the government, her church, businesses and society as a whole. She should be wearing a white outfit and heavily medicated.
John, I think Rock was probably just quoting the amount stated in the article - which was unfortunately JUST for food stamps. As your post so intelligently put it, there are a LOT more expenses that will need to be paid for - and I want to know where she will be getting the money to pay for them.
It is all wrong..........and it's all coming out of our pockets.
hey does anyone out there have an autistic child, maybe you could comment for all of us how much time and dedication is takes to raise an autistic child, i dont know but im assuming it takes an extra amount of love, time and money to raise a child with autism, now add on another 2 with unknown disabilities - then add on 3 healthy children, and now add on 8 premies, seriously, can she really give all 14 children the love, attention and dedication they need????
My son has C.P. and the cost of his care is astronomical. That why I say the doctor should be held liable. He knew the risks involved in such a risky procedure and didnt care. But besides the financial burden theres also the many sleepless nights in a hosp room being there for the child. When they have a handicap like that sometimes they dont have the ability to express a need or want or anything so you have to be there to protect the one you love. This idiot doesnt even do that at home she lets her folks care for them. What is gonna happen god forbid something happen to her parents who will be there then , the one whos already proven shes not there now ? The state really needs to take these kids for their own welfare and put em up for adoption. It sucks they wouldnt grow up together but a life of opertunities apart beats a life on a dead end road. Theres alot of couples looking to adopt a baby now they should have a chance.
I agree !!!!I'll adopt one!!!!!! That would be in EVERYBODIES best intrested. Even the mom even though she's SO demeanted she doesn't know it.
She is greedy and will probably want to sell you one.
No kidding, about the 800 billion to bail out the greedy CEOs.
Mark 3847 - you are right it is not our job to judge. not me, not you. no one has the right to judge.
jbdaad -- right on. how about some real news.
We "the majority" have become obsessed with stories like this. There are millions of people collecting undue welfare, living in squalor while they drive $40, 000 cars and yet we only bring this issue up when an anomaly pops up. some states do have a cap on welfare. Yes make them work for their stipends, but you can't punish the children. They didn't have a choice, and who knew all six embryos were going to survive. Elective reduction? Is that not murder? I never made the connection between her and Angelina Jolie. Not even close and I know people who have features such as hers naturally.
It is not ours to judge. MSNBC, Anne Curry, and any other news station is doing their job covering this unnatural birth. The "News" is not the watchdog of the community as it was designed to be, but is now "yellow journalism" using sensational stories to sell their "product." I stopped writing for newspapers over ten years ago because of the headline on Christmas Day 1991 about the number of murders in Chicago that year. That same paper had a small photo of a screaming child with Santa Claus. Two years later the other large paper followed suit. I have a difficult time watching and reading mainstream news, and when I found this side, thought I could find some new with substance and comments that were worth my time. I'm appalled by all the judgement.
Oh yeah, any of you "psychics" who are certain that six of the eight will be on assistance--shame on you. How do you know? Just because statistics say its probable doesn't mean it's possible. Hasty generalization.
I raised two kids alone because dad was a deadbeat, Disneyland dad and it was tough. I hadn't been to college and needed help. I got it and finished college raised my kids who are healthy and successful and while I was getting assistance from Uncle Sam wrote an article about how easy it was to dupe the government agencies. My assistance lasted about six months and when I finally landed a job, I earned less money than I was getting on public assistance. Therein lies the problem. Don't make it (welfare)so appealing.
The fact that she resembles Angelina Jolie, as many of you point assert, is a moot point. As far as the nails, everybody has a right to look pretty and if after or during her pregnancy, her self esteem was boosted by this...so what. She will survive and however she gets support to help her is her issue. She plans to get a master's degree and get off any public assistance. There are 3rd generation welfare recipeints that don't know what "going to work " means.
Lets focus on "real news", people, like our economic crisis, the environment and how we are going to take this country from being pathetic to proud.
Colleen, you seem to be pretty defensive about the comments on this board. What is "real" news anymore? American Idol? Reality TV? Besides, I thought this was a discussion about the crazy woman who is trying to use her superhuman birth to gain fame and fortune. Other than the fact that octomom is being socially irresponsible, it has nothing to do with 'global warming' or the economy. There are plenty of discussions about those 'valid' topics on other threads.
Our country is pathetic? Really? Give me a break. And you are preaching to the choir about being too judgemental. Get off your high horse, Colleen, I'd like to see you spend a considerable amount of time elsewhere. Go live in a third world, war torn country and then tell us how 'pathetic' you and I really are. I'm sorry that you are so ashamed of America, that's really pathetic. What city, town, state, or country doesn't have its flaws?
Nobody can deny that this woman has psychiatric problems. She has blatantly lied several times over. You can't tell me that food stamps and SSI isn't welfare. It is public assistance. Financial Aid is also welfare because of the context she is using it in. Besides student loans, people need to realize that she is probably getting a ton of grants.
No, you can't punish the children; they are unfortunate victims in this sick woman's fantasy. However, the doctor that impregnated her was negligent to say the least. This woman admits to taking a risk but she recklessly endangered innocent lives. Elective reduction IS NOT MURDER under these circumstances. We are not dogs; the human body was never designed to carry eight fetuses to term. Are you saying that having eight severely compromised babies is better than having one healthy child? Have you even seen these babies? They are not healthy. And nobody can deny the fact that spending the first few months of life in ICU (and being held by your mother for 45 minutes a day) is far from ideal. There is a good chance that these children are going to have learning disabilities, behavioral problems, feeding problems, or worse.
I think the whole point here is that octomom didn't have the best interest her children in mind from the outset. What about the six children she already has? Did you hear what her children had to say about this mess? One girl said her mom was going to be stressed out all the time. One of her boys said it's going to be "squishy" and there will be a lot of cribs all over the place and a lot of crying. How sad.
While everyone has the right to look pretty, how do you suppose this woman is going to change a diaper with those hideous nails? That's not even practical or safe. I could just see her gouging one of her babies with those suckers. And if her lips really are natural, that must be one place she gained a few pounds. It really does look like someone went crazy with the botox. I mean, come on. Even if she was born with such monstrosities for lips, what does it matter to you? Are you that concerned about the salvation of people on this board? Worry about yourself!
colleen : all 8 babies are already on assistance. California has a healthy families program that is paying the costs of the babies hospital bills and they also have a program called ccs . CCS ... because of the premature and low birth weights and risk of learning disabilities .... these babies will start an early intervention program and go to school at a young age .. this is all state funded. It is not a hasty generalization that they will get assistance ... it is a fact. They are already getting some type of assistance. Nadya isn't paying the hospital bills.
Daydreamr: Everything you said I agree with ... wish I would have said it myself. One thing no one mentions though is ...... I hate to bring up the nail thing but, most bacteria and germs grow under the nails. I have a daughter with a low immune system , and those little babies don't have much of an immune system either. I keep my nails very short because I want what is best for my daughter. I wouldn't want to scratch her either.. The Dr. is the one who explained the nail thing to me, too bad they didn't explain it to Nadya. What am I thinking ???? It wouldn't matter anyhow cause it is all about her and what she wants. Silly me.
I dont understand why everyone is mad at her... she is just taking advantage of a system designed for this type of behavior. Shes just little more of a higher class Maury Povich guest, shes made to network tv. Props to NBC for such a ground breaking story. I cant believe im not seeing more support from the "womens rights" crowd
Sorry--she is not higher class than a Maury Povich guest. A timber rattler is higher classed than she is!
Jason; spoken like a true sexist. The "women's rights" crowd don't believe in milking the system...they understand that it is correct to 'do it for yourself'. Maybe that's why you haven't noticed their support.
why any women in the women's rights crowd would support a woman who do such an irresponsible act as this woman is beyond me. Most people do not advocate child abuse, neglect or freeloading.
I have 1 grown child, when he was small I couldn't support him without assistance for a few years. I wanted more children but instead had my tubes tied as it would have been unfair to have more when it's a battle supporting one. Welfare is supposed to be a helping hand so the person receiving it can improve their station in life. It is not meant to be a lifestyle.
Women's right bull, what about child rights. She will be getting 350.00 a month per child, food stamps medical bills, and her parents got the house for her she is living in. I feel sorry for her mother, she is having to do all the work. Children's rights and tax payers rights take the kids away, ggive her a hysterectomy. and she can either go to work or starve who cares.It is a little rough but the children will not get the love or education they need with her. She should also be checked for a mental condition.
Sharie
my thoughts exactly, but there are too many such as Ms. Suleman who enjoy feeding at the public trough, and have no intention of stopping.
Thanks MSNBC for exposing her. So she is on food stamps and government assistance... that uses hard earned tax dollars...
Don't forget her phoney disability claims, as she used the money for more invitro procedures!
I think everyone is missing the true cause for this woman's actions
I believe that it is much more likely to be ATTENTION not money when it all boils down.
She was an only child. who had all of the attention all the time. And when women raised in that kind of environment have kids THEY NO LONGER HAVE ALL THE ATTENTION, and use their own children as a means to restore the attention to them.
The money doesn't hurt and the govt loves a sob story.
Let's see...first, she's from California. Second, she has a set of lips that could give Mick Jagger's a run for his money. Conclusion? Not only is she on the government dole, but she has time to get her nails done and catch an occasional botox injection along the way! They should have spayed her when they had the chance!
Use the botox needle to freeze something else.
dude, with the DSLs on her, she's gotta be trying to get knocked up the old fashion way next.
HAHA! What do you want to bet that she will pop out another one next year...come to find out, she wasn't inferitle afer all...
Believe me...she will be duping the government out of a lot more than $490/month if three of the kids at home are disabled...and that doesn't allow for the fact that many premees wind up with disabilities...so possibly eight more!
q
What the lleh is "q"?
It has already been confirmed that 6 out of the 8 will need life time care.
rock:
Although I don't condone this woman having kids the same as a dog does, you're post was pretty funny...truthfully so.
Take all the kids away, give them a chance to grow up normaly, and lock her up!!! what she needs is free psychiatric help...
Euthanasia might work.
I agree. Take the kids, find them good homes so they can grow up normally.
And then, nueter that stupid bitch.
Stevo: Simple --- by hysterectomy or biklateral tubal ligation, relatively standard gyn surgical procedures.
Another thing, if she baubbles about her not on welfare, she should return the all welfare checks and food stamps, or. give the State of California a refund for all the monies she has received, and, live up to her allegations!
RH Kokoodan:
A female is NOT neutered...by a "relatively standard gyn surgical procedure". Check your "relatively academic dictionary".
Nuts are neutered, slits as spaded.
I don't care if it involves stapling her vagina shut, this woman should be forcibly sterilized for the public good.
"Fixing her" is useless. Remember, she had IVF, thus bypassing the tubes (hers were blocked, thus the reason for IVF in the first place) however, I feel she needs to be intutionalized and these babies given a home that can support and LOVE them.
And what about the $1.5 to $3 Million bill she'll be running up at the hospital where these babies were delivered and will be cared for until they're healthy enough to leave the hospital? Will her health insurance cover that? (Or does she even HAVE any?)
If not, guess who gets to pick up the tab?
I know not everyone will agree, but I hope she DOES get lucrative book and movie deals out of this. I doubt she'd ever get wealthy from that...she'd be spending every penny of it to raise her 14 kids. The advantage, for California taxpayers, would be that she and her brood would, for the most part, be off the welfare rolls.
What are youtalking about sherri? You mean she shouldnt raise her kids on the gov tab, and still make a profit for herself? What she is doing is sooo progressive!
sherri2012, what you say makes a certain sense: with TV appearances, selling books and movie rights she might make enough money to support those kids without help from the taxpayers. All the not-too-smart people who don't have a life and spend the day watching 'reality TV' or Oprah, or reading News of the World, or People Magazine, or other trash will pay for her, and the U.S. will keep on becoming a dumber and dumber place.
Sherri, do you really believe that she would spend the money on those kids. If you believe that then (no offense) but you may be just as delusional as she is.
The problem Sherri with this idea is, when she has another bit of depression when the kids hit say 3-6 months and come home she will take her lucrative book deal money and have more babies! I mean come on! 14 gets her 2mil and a house what will 20 give her? or the other delusional women sitting at home watching these psycho baby factories and decide they want to get in on the free ride, But wait now 8 has been done it is old news, not a lucrative now as say 9 or 10! hmm maybe that will net 3mil for a story!
Sherri, I don't believe that further dumbing down of american populace is a good idea..... We already have Jerry Springer Show... Just think - how many unstables will want to repeat what she did... Book? Been able to read and waste precious time to find out what some hired writer put on paper for this trailer trash? Watch show? Follow closely that illogical foggy nonsense that this lunatic is spewing and pretend that it makes a sense? And I love the fact that she has a publicist.... Why on Earth the person that wants privacy would have a publicist? Especially the one that will enthusiastically whore himself and his keyboard to any crook and liar that smells like money.....?
I'm more of a Maury fan to tell the truth. He has a better class of trailer filth....hehehehe
I strongly believe the government should take ALL her kids away to teach her a lesson, and give them to parents who can not have children.
This way the kids will have a better life and she can learn a lesson