Seeded on Fri May 1, 2009 10:21 PM EDT (msnbc.com)
Doctors and scientists struggle to understand a never-before-seen virus that respects no border as travels around the world spreading illness and fear.
The numbers have doubled world wide in the last two days...it will keep multiplying from here on.Load up on water and canned food, vitamins....and be prepared to stay home for a long time.
The epidemic wouldn't have been so bad if Mexico did not let flights leave and travel the world instead of hiding it to save their bullet filled tourism industry.
what a big scam this all is folks!!!!! only two confirmed cases in florida, and the whole state is in a state of emeergency! the govt. ( and pharmaceutical companies. ) has stockpiles of tamiflu and the other stuff that has been sitting for sometime now and it all goes bad after 3 years, so guess what? the govt. needs to make up for their losses ( billions of dollars ) so they create a " flu scare" so people will buy their stock of tamiflu, and they will get their money back,and recoup their losses.more people have died from regular flu , and the flu vaccines more than anything else, wise up people, its just basic flu.now the doctors are making big bucks ,as well as drug companies,and the govt.yes the govt. does know how to scam people,next thing you know it will be a pandemic,especially if the sales of tamiflu dont sell fast enough,think about it people!! just eat better, and wash your hands! r.j
Once again our government has proven what is most important......money. Smithfield will be allowed to continue to pollute and infect thousands with disease....commerce and travel between US and Mexico will continue regardless of the ill effects.....illegal immigration will continue with Mexican nationals exposing all of us to disease.....medical care in the US will continue to serve only the rich and Mexican nationals.....information about natural antivirals and health protective substances stifled while the CDC tries to off old and stale stockpiles of pharmaceutical antivirals.....and Citibank gets another 30 billion.
for your knowledge the virus was made in USA, is a handmade virus o.k. in a sofisticated lab; next point the drug cartel exists, because there are millions of American using drugs; I KNOW that is terrible; ask yourself why a country like USA with all his technology don't do nothing to stop the drugs traffic, why ?? think out of the box O.K.; also look at this videos: hopefully they will open your narrow/closed mind; do you know who is the main shareholder of the labs that are making the antibiotic for this flu (runsfeld/tamiflu) ?!!!; do you know they created this problem to distract everybodys attention meanwhile many companies in USA are shutting down; do you know 9/11 was an inside job.
Stay home? over a glorified case of the sniffles? I will live my life and go about my business. 36,000 people a year die from the flu, this strain has killed very few. So put the surgical masks away people, you look foolish!
this is worse that the katrina episode this administration has done nothing to try and stop the spread of this virus. dictator obama has appointed so many theifs and idiots as secretary of this and that and the shemale did not know until april 23 2009 that the terrorist came thru canada and she was made homeland security secretary?????? the village idiot has more sense than her.
Like Rahm Emanuel said, "we can't let a good crisis go to waste." SO, why not just create a crisis by transporting the flu around the world by train, truck or plane to give us the "shock and awe" which might open our minds to the new laws which would allow the Govt. to deny us the right to grow our own crops, raise our own animals for food, or gain positive public opinion for nationalized healthcare. Open your minds to the possibility that our Govt. doesn't have our best interests in mind. The only important issues to our broken system are the International Bankers who aren't happy being billionaires. They want absolute control, and will get it with a puppet Republican or the current puppet Democrat in the white house.
Did anyone see the explosion on a passenger train in Switzerland which was carrying the swine flu on board? 21 people were infected. So why would a passenger train be carrying swine flu? And why would explosives be on board? Sounds to me it's our govt's henchmen carrying out their dirty deeds of spreading it as fast as possible in hopes of causing the most amount of fear as they can.
it could have been stopped or slowed down if the dumbos in power would have closed the border with mexico... this is worst than the response to KATRINA....
Jesus!! Give it a rest will you? It is just the flu? 13,000 people have died from the regular flu why is the media making this out to be something out of control? Why are all you people reacting like fools? Jesus!!
I know... Its all stupid and completely blown out of proportion. Are shark attacks just too rare this season that they have to seek out the next psycho-drama closest to 9/11?
Alot of medical professionals that actually work the floor are disturbed at how the media is blowing all this up. More deadly germs are on public facilities then H1N1. Thousands die of flu related illness on hospital floors daily. Everyone on the medical floor at local hospitals aren't even flinching...
Nothing 'new' in this 'news', but it does look like stupitiy, racist, and bigots are at an all time new high...now that should be 'news'.
Why is that liberals always cry " bigots and racists" anytime anyone else tries to express their opinion? Are libs trying to cover up the fact that they themselves are bigots and racists?
First off, it's not just a flu. Swine flu or in this case, "Swine-like flu" as the article called it, is one the Medical community hasn't dealt with before so they don't know what's going to happen. This is only the beginning. This is also about public safety. Let's not forget Mexico City is a filthy place. This is the city where a lot of people died because gasoline was being dumped in its sewer system and exploded. Mexico is where the plant disease called wheat rust came from and ravaged acres of grain in Arizona. This is not about racism. Illegal or not, I've been in restaurantslocally where I've been in mens room and have all too often seen latino restaurant employees failing to wash their hands. I don't go to those place anymore. I don't care if they were born here, unsanitary is unsanitary. Another valid point is that illegals don't come from places that are thriving and have good healthcare. They come from places like La Gloria that is swarming with pigs. Don't forget, the child who died in Houston was from Mexico. Politics, race, gender and nationality don't matter. Porous borders and following the death tree to its roots does.
Look at Baxter Pharmiceutical and the way they shipped out to 18 yes, 18 different countries, 2 liveavian flu viruses combined in with a human flu strain. When the concoction was tested on ferrets they all tied. Not supposed to kill, period. Dead ferrets mean dead people. Man made death More outbreak.
My point is this, there was no major story on CNN, FOX or any other news agency that the main stream public were privy to. It was never talked about.
There was no follow up or even any right questions being asked or truth coming forward voluntarily like how many of the other Countries already mass produced or integrated the lots into actual vaccines.
Let me enlighten you. One of the growing mediums used to manufacture vaccines are eggs. Because the vaccines are grown in eggs, when ever a person who has been vaccinated there is a reaction to some people who eat eggs or even come in contact with them. The Same is true with most of the allergies out in society.
The way vaccines are orcistrated, all the conductor has to do is have the musicians warm up before the concert in the park, at first only a few hear the music and as time goes on and the symphony begins everyones listening sits back and enjoys the concert.
Even though music can cure or soothe the savage beast, vaccines can affect everyone differently.
There is one thing faster then the spread of a virus throughout the world and that is vaccines that are already throughout the world. There is so much hype, fear, misinformation and baitting going on. One agency Say's this while another says that.
This swine flu hype is not as serious as any regular flu that people get normally.
More people die from the regular flu then the swine flu ever will (Unless it is the man made version) and more people die every year from vaccine related injury and prescription medicines alone then this swine flu propaganda ever will.
The point here is we went this route in the 70's with the swine flu hype that the vaccine that they said would save you killed so many people that got vaccinated that the vaccination stopped.
I will end with this, if you believe in and follow the thought police and live off of their prescriptions for life, they can also lead the sheep to the slaughter.
I will take my chances naturally not man made hysteria.
I will write on behalf of my myself along with my fellow graduates and their families when i say that today's Graduation Ceremony was highly insulting to its Graduates. Not only were we given two seconds to pick up our degrees, we weren't even allowed to practice the time honored tradition of shaking our Dean's hand due to over hype in the media about Swine Flu, which no cases have been found within our student body to date, the students who were the ones to be in direct contact with the Dean. So thanks media, for destroying one of the most significant moments in my life.
Oh please..... your whining makes me wanna puke... you didnt get to shake hands with the Dean - your significant moment was destroyed.... puke puke puke.... if that was one of the most significant moments of your life, you leave a very boring one!!
It really is true that kids today are all about themselves. If this is the worst thing that this young adult has to deal with he will be very lucky!!! Life is about sacrifice. I can give up a hand shake to the Dean before I help spread a new strain of flu that is unknown to the medical field. Hope this poor new little graduate is not a doctor!!!!
I agree, it is all such silliness. And devils advocate, Jaclyn worked hard to get her diploma and her moment was stolen by paranoia. I think you need to be a little sensitive. This was the biggest moment of a young persons life to date (soon to be eclipsed by your marriage, first child, first home, foreclosure on your first home)
What racism. The first death one was from Mexico. It is good that you think like a fascist. If you do not like what they say. Call them names when they do not know them. That is what Hitler did. Are you going to send me to the camps.
bibol - what racism?? boy you live in denial - also there have been no deaths in America from the swine flu, your post rates right up there with the girl whining about not getting to shake her deans hand at graduation. Would you like some cheese with your whine??
I saw people today with masks on, I live in rural Iowa. What the @!$%# is wrong with people. We have a world of information at our finger tips. I now agree whole heartedly with George Carlin's line, its not the politicians that are the problem it is the stupid ignorant @!$%#ing people who vote for them. People in mass are as stupid as turkeys during a thunderstorm. One turkey thinks shelter can be found in a corner, the others follow suit until they smother each other.
Yeah, its pretty lame. Media also reported that Egypt has killed all its pigs. Even though this has no more to do with pigs then birds. They could have called in Avian flu too, but that was already taken by the previous flu hype. Yes they share genetic strands but it really has nothing to do with the rational of killing all birds, or pigs, cats or camels. Where's the logic?
What is news is how reactionary everyone is. I guess it reflects our state of communication ... which on the bright side is pretty quick. Misinformation flys just as fast in this day and age... ain't that somethin'...
"People started complained of bad colds... Veracruz health officials arrived to take saliva samples"
Ok. I've seen bad, really bad colds around us... in the office, on airplaines, etc... and never, ever a health official taking samples.Not even in my doctor's visits.
What if the strain traveled inward towards Mexico ? (not outwards from Mexico) What if... the strain had been among us already without being noticed before, and it reached this village, where it proved to be fatal for people dealing with a more fragile health system...
And does the "bird component" of the strain contribute to the propagation of the strain anyhow?
I think the US government's response to this flu was a total failure. Back when they thought the flu was deadly, they refused to enforce quarantines around affected people in the US for political reasons. They did not prevent traffic back and forth across the Mexican border, for political reasons. They did not tell workers and school kids to stay home from school, for political reasons. If this had been Ebola, we'd all be dead, for political reasons. I can understand loosening quarentines when it is decided the flu is just a common cold, but they should have been a little more vigilent when it was still considered a deadly threat to the masses. We are very fortunate this virus has such a low mortality rate. Next time we may not be so lucky.
I think a virus blamed on animals, birds, or foreigners, -the vaccine is made in places like Dugway, injected is whatever, and the virus may be spread around, just like we once used a plane, to spray Mosquitos.------ FOOD FOR THOUGHT!
My Prediction: Millions will die from the virus, not the swine virus but the next virus. The Swine virus is just a test case for the next virus. The swine virus is a manufactured virus like the next one. My guess is that the next virus will originate in the same region and will be released during the winter holidays within the next 3 years. Like the swine viru,s it will be aimed at the poor and lower middle class.
Yes, I figure the same thing. This was a test. Mostly mild cases. Then people will require a vaccine. Vaccines cost money. Guess who profits?
But they anticipate it will be back in a stronger form over winter. Why?
Think people, contaminating what we eat and drink is much easier. Releasing concocted viruses so people get sick is another way. Then cause panic. They are closing schools but now what are these people doing while they close the schools? They are shopping!
So the flu is spread through ignorance and commercial lanes of traffic. Not much has changed in that area from the out break of plague in the Fourteenth Century. It this case the spread is faster in the process. I guess that is progress of a sort.
From what I am reading we may have some luck this time around, but it should be a wake up call for those Republican types who consider funding anti-flu efforts non-stimulative and a waste of taxpayer money.
And this is an example of what I would call a short-sighted and ill considered reply as anti-flu efforts are not solely the province of the pharmaceutical companies. I might ask who will provide the medicinal response to the flu if they do not?
Perhaps the suggestion is those with the flu virus go cold turkey?
i dunno if this is tru, but i heard dat da swine flu is just sum normal flu but a little more deadly, and cuz da media is makin such a big deal about it, ppl get freaked out. is dat tru?
Like Rahm Emanuel said, "we can't let a good crisis go to waste." SO, why not just create a crisis by transporting the flu around the world by train, truck or plane to give us the "shock and awe" which might open our minds to the new laws which would allow the Govt. to deny us the right to grow our own crops, raise our own animals for food, or gain positive public opinion for nationalized healthcare. Open your minds to the possibility that our Govt. doesn't have our best interests in mind. The only important issues to our broken system is the International Bankers who aren't happy being billionaires. They want absolute control, and will get it with a puppet Republican or the current puppet Democrat.
Can someone please "tweat" that bimbo Alex Witt that it's Northeastern University in Boston, MA that will not shake hands with graduating seniors during their graduation ceremonies and NOT Northwestern Univ. in IL
OMG what a bunch of BS and paranoia this is causing......6.6 BILLION (give or take a million) people in the world and at this point 0.000009893% of the world population is affected...Pandemic my ass.
There are more people who die of car accidents than those who die of every kind of flu, combined, every year. So, I guess we have a car accident pandemic and we need a vaccine for that.
Formally published in a peer-reviewed Chemical Physics journal, April 3. "Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material..." "Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe" by Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley and Bradley R. Larsen
The paper ends with this sentence: "Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material."
In short, the paper explodes the official story that "no evidence" exists for explosive/pyrotechnic materials in the WTC buildings. Rest of story at link.
it appears Mexico is a filty, medically unprepared nation. In some areas, clearly a "third-world nation" with very few health and safety precautions, regulations. Surprise, surprise. And we wonder why some want borders protected!! Just imagine if they had crossed borders with anthrax, smallpox, or worse!
bless them they try, but until they come into the safer world community, I ain't goin' there or socializing with anyone who does! Swine flu is just the begining of stuff that could be "imported."
I know that what I have to say here really doesn't matter. But the title of this article is mis-leading,"How Swine Virus Hopscothched The Globe". All because of the one mis-used word ,"How". Nowhere in the article does it give any indication as to 'how' this virus is traveling and in fact is full of a lot of quotes from people saying they don't know 'how' it's moving the way it has been... In this and any situation, for that matter,clear communications is essential. There are already people in chatrooms stating misconceptions as fact. Most of it put in place by either sensationalism or poorly written articles. As a supporter of a free press I am finding it difficult to not disagree with criticisms of the media concerning it's handling of this topic.
Kerry's posting about Baxter is worth noting. Baxter spread the virus and now is assigned to work with the World Health Organization to develop a vaccine for the swine flu. Do you see a contradiction here?
I've been through the first Swine Flu outbreak in 1957, the Hong Kong in the early 60's and every yearly flu outbreak, I've had the flu once in my life, in my early 20's and that was many years ago. Since I apparently don't get flu bugs, I still will use caution for all I know I may carry the virus, not get it but could spread it like wildfire which is what many folks are doing! We have many carriers but few with the flu right now but it could change, why take the chance. I can and do still have fun I just do it wisely!
The last report I read we have roughly 7 confirmed people dead as of Thursday this last week.
Since January 1st, 2009 to April 18th, 2009 the normal flu, not 'swine flu' has killed 13,000 people. That's per reporting for direct deaths caused by flu and flu related complications. That's no less then 800 per week. Why exactly is a flu that registered 7 deaths trumping this information? People just need a crisis to feel important.
The numbers come directly from a CNN story on the subject. People need to put things in prespective. Be cautious fine, but don't be in a panic
I think this all started several weeks before it all became noticed. A group of students from a local Catholic school went to mexico to take items to an orphanage that they support. After the students came home they all came down with a terrible flu. It went through the school like wildfre, 80 or so came down with it. The kids all were so sick. It appears it still is going through our community. I don't think this just started last week or the week before. I would bet this is what the students who went to mexico and then the students that all came down sick had,"the swine flu". They have all recovered. Thank God
children probably get the flu worst cause there the least concerned about spreading the virus around by sneezing , coughing , or unclean hands and runny noses .
The numbers have doubled world wide in the last two days...it will keep multiplying from here on.Load up on water and canned food, vitamins....and be prepared to stay home for a long time.
Great health to all
Obviously your kidding. 1x2 = Doubled. There is a word. It's called perspective.
The epidemic wouldn't have been so bad if Mexico did not let flights leave and travel the world instead of hiding it to save their bullet filled tourism industry.
what a big scam this all is folks!!!!! only two confirmed cases in florida, and the whole state is in a state of emeergency! the govt. ( and pharmaceutical companies. ) has stockpiles of tamiflu and the other stuff that has been sitting for sometime now and it all goes bad after 3 years, so guess what? the govt. needs to make up for their losses ( billions of dollars ) so they create a " flu scare" so people will buy their stock of tamiflu, and they will get their money back,and recoup their losses.more people have died from regular flu , and the flu vaccines more than anything else, wise up people, its just basic flu.now the doctors are making big bucks ,as well as drug companies,and the govt.yes the govt. does know how to scam people,next thing you know it will be a pandemic,especially if the sales of tamiflu dont sell fast enough,think about it people!! just eat better, and wash your hands! r.j
Once again our government has proven what is most important......money. Smithfield will be allowed to continue to pollute and infect thousands with disease....commerce and travel between US and Mexico will continue regardless of the ill effects.....illegal immigration will continue with Mexican nationals exposing all of us to disease.....medical care in the US will continue to serve only the rich and Mexican nationals.....information about natural antivirals and health protective substances stifled while the CDC tries to off old and stale stockpiles of pharmaceutical antivirals.....and Citibank gets another 30 billion.
Stealing away your home and laying you off from work isn't enough.....now they want you dead.
for your knowledge the virus was made in USA, is a handmade virus o.k. in a sofisticated lab; next point the drug cartel exists, because there are millions of American using drugs; I KNOW that is terrible; ask yourself why a country like USA with all his technology don't do nothing to stop the drugs traffic, why ?? think out of the box O.K.; also look at this videos: hopefully they will open your narrow/closed mind; do you know who is the main shareholder of the labs that are making the antibiotic for this flu (runsfeld/tamiflu) ?!!!; do you know they created this problem to distract everybodys attention meanwhile many companies in USA are shutting down; do you know 9/11 was an inside job.
zeitgeistmovie.com
Stay home? over a glorified case of the sniffles? I will live my life and go about my business. 36,000 people a year die from the flu, this strain has killed very few. So put the surgical masks away people, you look foolish!
this is worse that the katrina episode this administration has done nothing to try and stop the spread of this virus. dictator obama has appointed so many theifs and idiots as secretary of this and that and the shemale did not know until april 23 2009 that the terrorist came thru canada and she was made homeland security secretary?????? the village idiot has more sense than her.
Like Rahm Emanuel said, "we can't let a good crisis go to waste." SO, why not just create a crisis by transporting the flu around the world by train, truck or plane to give us the "shock and awe" which might open our minds to the new laws which would allow the Govt. to deny us the right to grow our own crops, raise our own animals for food, or gain positive public opinion for nationalized healthcare. Open your minds to the possibility that our Govt. doesn't have our best interests in mind. The only important issues to our broken system are the International Bankers who aren't happy being billionaires. They want absolute control, and will get it with a puppet Republican or the current puppet Democrat in the white house.
Did anyone see the explosion on a passenger train in Switzerland which was carrying the swine flu on board? 21 people were infected. So why would a passenger train be carrying swine flu? And why would explosives be on board? Sounds to me it's our govt's henchmen carrying out their dirty deeds of spreading it as fast as possible in hopes of causing the most amount of fear as they can.
it could have been stopped or slowed down if the dumbos in power would have closed the border with mexico... this is worst than the response to KATRINA....
Jesus!! Give it a rest will you? It is just the flu? 13,000 people have died from the regular flu why is the media making this out to be something out of control? Why are all you people reacting like fools? Jesus!!
I know... Its all stupid and completely blown out of proportion. Are shark attacks just too rare this season that they have to seek out the next psycho-drama closest to 9/11?
Alot of medical professionals that actually work the floor are disturbed at how the media is blowing all this up. More deadly germs are on public facilities then H1N1. Thousands die of flu related illness on hospital floors daily. Everyone on the medical floor at local hospitals aren't even flinching...
Nothing 'new' in this 'news', but it does look like stupitiy, racist, and bigots are at an all time new high...now that should be 'news'.
Why is that liberals always cry " bigots and racists" anytime anyone else tries to express their opinion? Are libs trying to cover up the fact that they themselves are bigots and racists?
Bio warfare. 12 Monkeys. Chemtrails. Vaccines. Human DNA in a virus. Pandemic in a bottle.
First off, it's not just a flu. Swine flu or in this case, "Swine-like flu" as the article called it, is one the Medical community hasn't dealt with before so they don't know what's going to happen. This is only the beginning. This is also about public safety. Let's not forget Mexico City is a filthy place. This is the city where a lot of people died because gasoline was being dumped in its sewer system and exploded. Mexico is where the plant disease called wheat rust came from and ravaged acres of grain in Arizona. This is not about racism. Illegal or not, I've been in restaurantslocally where I've been in mens room and have all too often seen latino restaurant employees failing to wash their hands. I don't go to those place anymore. I don't care if they were born here, unsanitary is unsanitary. Another valid point is that illegals don't come from places that are thriving and have good healthcare. They come from places like La Gloria that is swarming with pigs. Don't forget, the child who died in Houston was from Mexico. Politics, race, gender and nationality don't matter. Porous borders and following the death tree to its roots does.
very well said!
So true, people are so paranoid.
When is the media going to find different story to obsess about? I for one am tired of hearing about this crap.
It is called vaccines. Admit what they are, Bio-weapons.
?? Please elaborate.
Look at Baxter Pharmiceutical and the way they shipped out to 18 yes, 18 different countries, 2 liveavian flu viruses combined in with a human flu strain. When the concoction was tested on ferrets they all tied. Not supposed to kill, period. Dead ferrets mean dead people. Man made death More outbreak.
My point is this, there was no major story on CNN, FOX or any other news agency that the main stream public were privy to. It was never talked about.
There was no follow up or even any right questions being asked or truth coming forward voluntarily like how many of the other Countries already mass produced or integrated the lots into actual vaccines.
Let me enlighten you. One of the growing mediums used to manufacture vaccines are eggs. Because the vaccines are grown in eggs, when ever a person who has been vaccinated there is a reaction to some people who eat eggs or even come in contact with them. The Same is true with most of the allergies out in society.
The way vaccines are orcistrated, all the conductor has to do is have the musicians warm up before the concert in the park, at first only a few hear the music and as time goes on and the symphony begins everyones listening sits back and enjoys the concert.
Even though music can cure or soothe the savage beast, vaccines can affect everyone differently.
There is one thing faster then the spread of a virus throughout the world and that is vaccines that are already throughout the world. There is so much hype, fear, misinformation and baitting going on. One agency Say's this while another says that.
This swine flu hype is not as serious as any regular flu that people get normally.
More people die from the regular flu then the swine flu ever will (Unless it is the man made version) and more people die every year from vaccine related injury and prescription medicines alone then this swine flu propaganda ever will.
The point here is we went this route in the 70's with the swine flu hype that the vaccine that they said would save you killed so many people that got vaccinated that the vaccination stopped.
I will end with this, if you believe in and follow the thought police and live off of their prescriptions for life, they can also lead the sheep to the slaughter.
I will take my chances naturally not man made hysteria.
I will write on behalf of my myself along with my fellow graduates and
their families when i say that today's Graduation Ceremony was highly
insulting to its Graduates. Not only were we given two
seconds to pick up our degrees, we weren't even allowed to practice the
time honored tradition of shaking our Dean's hand due to over hype in
the media about Swine Flu, which no cases have been found within our
student body to date, the students who were the ones to be in direct
contact with the Dean. So thanks media, for destroying one of the most significant moments in my life.
Oh please..... your whining makes me wanna puke... you didnt get to shake hands with the Dean - your significant moment was destroyed.... puke puke puke.... if that was one of the most significant moments of your life, you leave a very boring one!!
It really is true that kids today are all about themselves. If this is the worst thing that this young adult has to deal with he will be very lucky!!! Life is about sacrifice. I can give up a hand shake to the Dean before I help spread a new strain of flu that is unknown to the medical field. Hope this poor new little graduate is not a doctor!!!!
I agree, it is all such silliness. And devils advocate, Jaclyn worked hard to get her diploma and her moment was stolen by paranoia. I think you need to be a little sensitive. This was the biggest moment of a young persons life to date (soon to be eclipsed by your marriage, first child, first home, foreclosure on your first home)
The story title should be, illegal immigrants from Mexico cause American deaths.
Umm no. Most of the sick are from vacationers who went to Mexico. But good to show your racism to the general public.
What racism. The first death one was from Mexico. It is good that you think like a fascist. If you do not like what they say. Call them names when they do not know them. That is what Hitler did. Are you going to send me to the camps.
bibol - what racism?? boy you live in denial - also there have been no deaths in America from the swine flu, your post rates right up there with the girl whining about not getting to shake her deans hand at graduation. Would you like some cheese with your whine??
bibol
You can't even spell Bible right. Or did you mean to spell bilbo? That hobbit was a better man than you.
I saw people today with masks on, I live in rural Iowa. What the @!$%# is wrong with people. We have a world of information at our finger tips. I now agree whole heartedly with George Carlin's line, its not the politicians that are the problem it is the stupid ignorant @!$%#ing people who vote for them. People in mass are as stupid as turkeys during a thunderstorm. One turkey thinks shelter can be found in a corner, the others follow suit until they smother each other.
Yeah, its pretty lame. Media also reported that Egypt has killed all its pigs. Even though this has no more to do with pigs then birds. They could have called in Avian flu too, but that was already taken by the previous flu hype. Yes they share genetic strands but it really has nothing to do with the rational of killing all birds, or pigs, cats or camels. Where's the logic?
What is news is how reactionary everyone is. I guess it reflects our state of communication ... which on the bright side is pretty quick. Misinformation flys just as fast in this day and age... ain't that somethin'...
Does that mean in egypt they would kill all the mexicans?
"People started complained of bad colds... Veracruz health officials arrived to take saliva samples"
Ok. I've seen bad, really bad colds around us... in the office, on airplaines, etc... and never, ever a health official taking samples.Not even in my doctor's visits.
What if the strain traveled inward towards Mexico ? (not outwards from Mexico) What if... the strain had been among us already without being noticed before, and it reached this village, where it proved to be fatal for people dealing with a more fragile health system...
And does the "bird component" of the strain contribute to the propagation of the strain anyhow?
Too many questions...
I think the US government's response to this flu was a total failure. Back when they thought the flu was deadly, they refused to enforce quarantines around affected people in the US for political reasons. They did not prevent traffic back and forth across the Mexican border, for political reasons. They did not tell workers and school kids to stay home from school, for political reasons. If this had been Ebola, we'd all be dead, for political reasons. I can understand loosening quarentines when it is decided the flu is just a common cold, but they should have been a little more vigilent when it was still considered a deadly threat to the masses. We are very fortunate this virus has such a low mortality rate. Next time we may not be so lucky.
The masses are asses. Reactive instead of proactive. Head in the sand. Sky is falling. Woe is me . What can the gov. do for me for free.
I think a virus blamed on animals, birds, or foreigners, -the vaccine is made in places like Dugway, injected is whatever, and the virus may be spread around, just like we once used a plane, to spray Mosquitos.------ FOOD FOR THOUGHT!
My Prediction: Millions will die from the virus, not the swine virus but the next virus. The Swine virus is just a test case for the next virus. The swine virus is a manufactured virus like the next one. My guess is that the next virus will originate in the same region and will be released during the winter holidays within the next 3 years. Like the swine viru,s it will be aimed at the poor and lower middle class.
You don't want the truth - you can't handle it!
Yes, I figure the same thing. This was a test. Mostly mild cases. Then people will require a vaccine. Vaccines cost money. Guess who profits?
But they anticipate it will be back in a stronger form over winter. Why?
Think people, contaminating what we eat and drink is much easier. Releasing concocted viruses so people get sick is another way. Then cause panic. They are closing schools but now what are these people doing while they close the schools? They are shopping!
So the flu is spread through ignorance and commercial lanes of traffic. Not much has changed in that area from the out break of plague in the Fourteenth Century. It this case the spread is faster in the process. I guess that is progress of a sort.
From what I am reading we may have some luck this time around, but it should be a wake up call for those Republican types who consider funding anti-flu efforts non-stimulative and a waste of taxpayer money.
Wake up call for those Republican types who consider funding anti-flu efforts non-stimulative and a waste of taxpayer money???
Who is benefitting from the anti-flu efforts? Supporting pharmaceutical companies is stimulative?
And this is an example of what I would call a short-sighted and ill considered reply as anti-flu efforts are not solely the province of the pharmaceutical companies. I might ask who will provide the medicinal response to the flu if they do not?
Perhaps the suggestion is those with the flu virus go cold turkey?
i dunno if this is tru, but i heard dat da swine flu is just sum normal flu but a little more deadly, and cuz da media is makin such a big deal about it, ppl get freaked out. is dat tru?
Like Rahm Emanuel said, "we can't let a good crisis go to waste." SO, why not just create a crisis by transporting the flu around the world by train, truck or plane to give us the "shock and awe" which might open our minds to the new laws which would allow the Govt. to deny us the right to grow our own crops, raise our own animals for food, or gain positive public opinion for nationalized healthcare. Open your minds to the possibility that our Govt. doesn't have our best interests in mind. The only important issues to our broken system is the International Bankers who aren't happy being billionaires. They want absolute control, and will get it with a puppet Republican or the current puppet Democrat.
Can someone please "tweat" that bimbo Alex Witt that it's Northeastern University in Boston, MA that will not shake hands with graduating seniors during their graduation ceremonies and NOT Northwestern Univ. in IL
OMG what a bunch of BS and paranoia this is causing......6.6 BILLION (give or take a million) people in the world and at this point 0.000009893% of the world population is affected...Pandemic my ass.
There are more people who die of car accidents than those who die of every kind of flu, combined, every year. So, I guess we have a car accident pandemic and we need a vaccine for that.
Why is the corporate media so over-hyping this? Is there other news that they should be covering and are not? What's being hidden?
BREAKING NEWS!
Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust
Formally published in a peer-reviewed Chemical Physics journal, April 3. "Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material..."
"Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe" by Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley and Bradley R. Larsen
The paper ends with this sentence: "Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material."
In short, the paper explodes the official story that "no evidence" exists for explosive/pyrotechnic materials in the WTC buildings.
Rest of story at link.
http://www.care2.com/news/member/801925700/1108217
Live interview with Dr. Neil Harritt.
http://gcnlive.com/Archives2009/may09/AlexJones/
0501094.mp3
it appears Mexico is a filty, medically unprepared nation. In some areas, clearly a "third-world nation" with very few health and safety precautions, regulations. Surprise, surprise. And we wonder why some want borders protected!! Just imagine if they had crossed borders with anthrax, smallpox, or worse!
bless them they try, but until they come into the safer world community, I ain't goin' there or socializing with anyone who does! Swine flu is just the begining of stuff that could be "imported."
I know that what I have to say here really doesn't matter. But the title of this article is mis-leading,"How Swine Virus Hopscothched The Globe". All because of the one mis-used word ,"How". Nowhere in the article does it give any indication as to 'how' this virus is traveling and in fact is full of a lot of quotes from people saying they don't know 'how' it's moving the way it has been... In this and any situation, for that matter,clear communications is essential. There are already people in chatrooms stating misconceptions as fact. Most of it put in place by either sensationalism or poorly written articles. As a supporter of a free press I am finding it difficult to not disagree with criticisms of the media concerning it's handling of this topic.
Kerry's posting about Baxter is worth noting. Baxter spread the virus and now is assigned to work with the World Health Organization to develop a vaccine for the swine flu. Do you see a contradiction here?
I've been through the first Swine Flu outbreak in 1957, the Hong Kong in the early 60's and every yearly flu outbreak, I've had the flu once in my life, in my early 20's and that was many years ago. Since I apparently don't get flu bugs, I still will use caution for all I know I may carry the virus, not get it but could spread it like wildfire which is what many folks are doing! We have many carriers but few with the flu right now but it could change, why take the chance. I can and do still have fun I just do it wisely!
And don't forget people comeing next week. A new Virus AVBGTZ01 .. Yup it will take out out
in a Hr... So get ready for the new news about it comeing your way next week..
Hell it is something new every week.. It is this and that. What is next?
No news is good new, any news is bad news...ha! Ha! just be happy and rock on people.
Best way...
This entire thing is baffling to me.
The last report I read we have roughly 7 confirmed people dead as of Thursday this last week.
Since January 1st, 2009 to April 18th, 2009 the normal flu, not 'swine flu' has killed 13,000 people. That's per reporting for direct deaths caused by flu and flu related complications. That's no less then 800 per week. Why exactly is a flu that registered 7 deaths trumping this information? People just need a crisis to feel important.
The numbers come directly from a CNN story on the subject. People need to put things in prespective. Be cautious fine, but don't be in a panic
I think this all started several weeks before it all became noticed. A group of students from a local Catholic school went to mexico to take items to an orphanage that they support. After the students came home they all came down with a terrible flu. It went through the school like wildfre, 80 or so came down with it. The kids all were so sick. It appears it still is going through our community. I don't think this just started last week or the week before. I would bet this is what the students who went to mexico and then the students that all came down sick had,"the swine flu". They have all recovered. Thank God
children probably get the flu worst cause there the least concerned about spreading the virus around by sneezing , coughing , or unclean hands and runny noses .
you must be a rocket scientist.