A new national poll found that only about a third of adults who have tried to get a swine flu vaccine have been able to get it. The numbers are about the same for parents who tried to get the vaccine for their children.
A new national poll found that only about a third of adults who have tried to get a swine flu vaccine have been able to get it. The numbers are about the same for parents who tried to get the vaccine for their children.
I am sure if you have enough money you can find the vaccine. Go capitalism!
Well, Obama was hoarding 234,000 of them and all the Gitmo prisoners were going to get it first! Goes to show where his priorities are! Certainly not the children of the taxpayers!
Hurricane Katrina...everyone complained about a slow govt. response. Now it's the swine virus...are we gonna blame the govt. again for dragging its feet? How's about just distancing ourselves from D.C., and relying on ourselves for health. Start by thinking of this country with more than two political parties.
Government run healthcare - the preview.
To John 537378 - Money doesn't matter. My Dad, age 78, went to local Kroger Pharmacy for the H1N1 vaccination since he has COPD, and Kroger pharmacist turned him away saying he was not eligible for the shot since he was over 65! He is very upset.
A big reason there is not as much vaccine as had been promised by the administration is that the administration wanted the vaccine made in single doses rather than multiple dose units. So while they are filling single vials and shipping them, in basically the same amount of time, they could have been packaging at least FIVE times as much. It isn't that they didn't have the actual vaccine, it is that they couldn't get it bottled and shipped! There was NO reason for the single dose only stipulation, not from a medical standpoint. Most vaccines are put into multi dose units and some in single dose units as well. So the rationale behind this decision is suspect at best.
Single dose units do not contain the "suspect" preservative Thimerosal. Multi dose units contain this preservative to keep it fresh after initial opening. The last shot in the unit will contain a higher concentration. You are correct in that it is offered in both sized units for those who request a single dose.
Actually in Tarrant County Texas money didn't get the H1N1 vaccine. They decided to let the county do the shots. No private doctors so there was no charge, but there was a catch to it. If your child was insured no shot. Only the illegal immigrants and deadbeat families got it. Sad state of affairs when a working parent with insurance can't protect their child. Welcome to a preview of socialized medicine.
only one in three who want it. And how many don't want it? Half? And these are the guys who want to run health care. The gov't does one thing and only one thing well. that is to be totally incompetent!!!!
The government is not manufacturing the H1N1 vaccine, it is being made by for-profit corporations. Please feel free to edit your replies to reflect the truth, unless you are a Fox News viewer who wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the arse, repeatably.
I don't want the vaccine so I'll sell mine on Craigslist for $100.00. Greed and capitalism FTW!
Anyone over 60 is probably immune from the H1 strain. However, those with severe health issues need to go directly to their Doctor (NOT a clinic) and get their shot - or a note telling the clinic why they must have it.
I am not a candidate for H1 but DO need the seasonal vaccine since I am a caregiver for an ill person. There is NONE around, and I am living in Rochester MN - home of the Mayo clinic !
This is just a sample of government health care. Imagine when it becomes law.
Actually, you're wrong. It isn't available to me where I live (New Mexico) even for any money, and I'm in a priority group because I had a splenectomy (spleen removed) as a teenager. While I'm no more likely to get the flu than anyone else, the risk of a secondary infection like pneumonia is much greater for me.
Interestingly, for those bashing government-run health care, my 71 year old father in Canada has been able to get the vaccine. Yes, there have been shortages there as well, but Canada has more vaccines per capita than any country on Earth. When I live in Canada I never had trouble getting my flu shot. Only in the USA has it been a problem.
Fix healthcare
How about first fixing the production and prompt delivery of vaccines before massive exposures. The CDC and Feds fail again. Most everyone I know has already had the H1N1 flu.
They have. Can't you tell by the shortages, long waits and government deciding who gets the vaccine? Imagine when the government runs it all.
You idiot sticks who take these shots deserve to have the effects from them! They have Squalene which is illegal to be used in medicine yet it still has it. Thimerosol which is Mercury. These Vaccines are the beginning of many more to come which ARE and WILL Sterilize the Population, Sterilization=Genocide~! TURN OFF YOUR TV~! Turn onto FreedomsPhoenix (dot com) InfoWars (dot com) FederalJack (dot com) WorldNetDaily (dot com) LewRockwell (dot com) even go to the Elites personal website CFR (dot org) where they admit many of their crimes passed, present and future. WAKE UP, YOU ARE SHEEPS TO THE SLAUGHTER~! Enough with Conspiracy theory that Government is good for you, that Fluoride (Toxin used in NAZI Death camps) is good for you, that 9/11, Tonkin Bay, Pearl Harbor, WACO TX, OKC Bombing, Columbine, etc. happened the way the lolLameStreamMedia says they happened. WAKE UP~!
one thing i don't understand the nasal vaccine is a live virus so if you sneeze your spreading H1N1 around way to go
You forgot to mention that Donald Rumsfeld is the main drug pusher who stands to make $$$millions out of this scam!
I'm sure you're going to get a lot of converts by referring to the people who take the shots as "idiot sticks".
The key is that the Government said that we needed it and now it can't provide. There has to be a lesson here.
Geezus people are stupid. There is no squalene used in any U.S. vaccine formulation. The nasal spray and single dose vials do not contain thimerosal, only the multi-dose vials. The nasal vaccine uses an attenuated virus that has a temperature-sensitive replication deficit. It cannot grow in a human and will not spread (it is not infectious). Rumsfeld had stock in the company that makes Tamiflu, not the H1N1 vaccine. The vaccine is not to sterilize the public (common! Are you really that stupid?) "The key is that the Government said that we needed it and now it can't provide." The government ascertained that H1N1 would be a pandemic. They ordered flu vaccine to be designed and manufactured FROM PRIVATE INDUSTRY. Private industry has not been able to produce at the rate at which they claimed. When you go through the drive through and they get your order wrong, it goes to show you are incapable and incompetent, right (by your reasoning)?
I like that, LameStreammedia! That's what it all is! The media hypes up this flu like it's the black plague all over again! And I AM NOT getting that vaccine! I don't want any Mercury in me, enough pollutents as there is without injecting it directly into your system. Just wash your hands, get your sleep, have a positive attitude and eat well.
RJonNewsvine,
The request was made for single does units and that is why there is slower production. Flu vaccine is produced in multi dose units as well as single dose. when your main production is single dose units, you are not going to be able to ship nearly as many patient doses. It isn't the private industry's fault, it was another example of lousy projections by admins. (This phenomena is not unique to the current administration by any stretch of the imagination.)
Tom H - The lesson is that this is only a sample of what you'll get if the healthcare bills pass.
This really frightens me because my mother has a very weak immune system. She's has COPD as well as a host of other health problems on top of that. She's had a pneumonia vaccine, but she has a home health worker that comes in. I'm a full-time student who spends a lot of time around people. I pray that neither me nor the home-health worker catches it and gives it to her.
She asked her doctor about the vaccine and the doctor told her that they're not giving it to the public now in the town where she lives.
Take vitamines, eat right, get fresh air and excersise! You don't need this poison!
so do you think your mother should get a vaccine over a healthy person when apparently the flu strain is killing healthy and unhealthy, i would give it to the healthier first if it came down to a choice.
Get some Mucinex. One major complicationfrom the H1N1 flu is congestion in the lungs. Your mother should, of course, have the H1N1 vaccine. She should also get a pneumovax shot(a yeary pneumonia vaccine. If you cannot get her the H1N1 vaccine, you can help her by having the Mucinex on hand...it breaks up congestion in the lungs better than any other over the counter product. Buy the one that has PE after the name for best results. Adults who have major respiratory or heart health conditions(no matter what their age)should be able to get the H1N1 vaccine. If she has a regular doctor make an appointment and get her the regular flu vaccine and the pneumovax shot. If the doctor has H1N1 get that. Failing your medical person having the vaccine try to go on the internet and type in H1N1 Vaccine Available and your zip code. There are several drug stores who are getting the vaccine in Philadelphia area and other medical service companies who will have it available. Sign your mother up for a spot and for notification. The cost is anywhere from $15.00 to $39.00. NEVER mind the idiots who think she shouldn't get the vaccine. If you have young children, she will be exposed. You probably cannot get Tamiflu or the other prescription treatments at this point. So stock a bag with the Musinex along with other cold/flu type products. If you mother is on oxygen already make sure she has a supply. If she is on a breathing medication do the same. While I am not advising you to do this; some COPD patients experience some clearing of mucous from a breathing treatment of regular Saline(the kind that comes in the little clear tubes)which is sometimes used in conjuction with other breathing treatments. The problem with most breathing treatments is that they should only be used a certain number of times per day because they increase pulse rate, etc. I have successfully used just the saline. Anyway, don't listen to these idiots who don't care about anything but telling others what they should do. Get the mucinex(just get your drug store's brand to save money)and look for the H1N1 vaccine availability online. Any adult with medical complications has the right to get the vaccine. Also any adult in a job or household with the sick or young children. Good luck. Just so you know, I am a nurse.
Yeah, hometowngirl, I see your point. But her HEALTHY home health worker and my HEALTHY self can't get it either (remember where I said that they're not giving it out to the public? That includes the health care worker and myself)!
Thank you, Mary K., for seeing my point. She has had the regular flu/pneumonia vaccines and we're being extra careful. We will get the Mucinex ASAP (since I'm not sure we still have some in the house).
Hello Kitty - If your Mom is elderly or even over 60 she is most likely fine. H1N1 doesn't seem to be infecting older folks - perhaps because we got it when we were young. Young people seem to be the most vulnerable.
Not many or certain few of the older persons gets the swine flu shot.
hometowngirl, I guess you are one of those people. Kill off the sick, poor, and indigent. I guess you love nobamaland.
That was a very cruel thing to say about the lady that has the health problems. She does have one form of protection that I am sure you are upset about she took the pneumonia shot. That will help prevent some complication of the H1N1.
Let's hope you never have poor health, someone may wish harm on you and not want you to get medical treatment.
Just be ready. When government health care passes (if it does) the government will decide your mother's worth to society and determine what medications and care she gets by that. Nice thought isn't it?
By the way, I hope it doesn't happen and she gets the care she needs to live a long and happy life.
mary k-
Pneumovax is not an annual vaccine. It is given once age 65 and up. If a patient had it before age 65 for whatever reason, a booster is given in 5 years. Your medical advice is very dangerous. PE is pseudoephedrine - how do you know that Hello Kitty's mother can safely take this medication? It is quite dangerous in those with hypertension, and it only relieves nasal congestion (i.e. it doesn't help the lungs). You are correct that she should try to get the pandemic H1N1 vaccine (barring allergy to eggs or other vaccine components) - while elderly tend to have some immunity, you cannot guarantee that, and mortality rate for influenza is very high in elderly with COPD. Hello Kitty's mom should get advice from her doc.
Oh yeah, I am a doc too. Seriously, you have no business giving specific advice to a patient you've never met, no matter what your training.
FYI, so far this flu season, the seasonal vaccine is next to worthless. While time will tell, so far over 99% of influenza strains subtyped by labs in the U.S. are the novel pandemic strain, and less than 0.1% are a seasonal H1N1 or H3N2. About 0.3% are influenza B. http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/
Lets not forget that the Elite admit to PURPOSEFULLY restrict the amount of these lolVaccines so that the media will show long lines and make the public feel like they're being left out. It's a PsyOp, Psychlogical Operation to get the idiot Sheeple to take these Vaccines before the Military force it upon you anyways. READ THE DAME PATRIOT ACT YOU SHEEP~! READ THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO~! WAKE UP AND TAKE YOUR COUNTRY BACK~!
Goldman Saks and other financial companies got the vaccine for their employees. Just shows us who is in charge of this country.
Goldman Sachs received 200 shots out of 5400 requested. They are free to divide them among their employees or administrators as they see fit, but are encouraged to target their high-risk people first. Quit whining. Frankly, I like it when people can get the shot at work - less overtime pay for my staff. We don't get reimbursed by almost all ins companies for the administration charge, tiny reimbursement by Medicare, zero from Medicaid - office loses money overall by giving out flu shots.
I wouldn't ingest this vaccine for any amount of money. Odumbo says that H1N1 is a national crisis and Deadfish Emmanual said to never let a crisis go by without capitalizing on it. The gubmint can't get enough vaccine out to the population that wants it and now we're suppose to turn over our entire health care system to these idiots! This is the insanity of the left wing wackos and our Liar & Chief. What a joke!
Yep, and when you come down with the flu, you will also blame that on others
"left wing wackos and our Liar & Chief. Odumbo" I'll bet you are also one of those right wing persons who accuses the left of name calling!? LOL
Not me BARTMAN, these are the people I want in charge of my health care.
I always get the flu, the doctors says it's all of the cuts on my wrists.
Good thing you weren't around for the national polio vaccine in the 1950's......you'd be in a wheelchair now.
I was around, for the National polio vaccine in the 1950's, I got out of the USMC in 1963 after spending 6 years in and 3 months in Lebanon, 21 days floating of Havana Harbor and 22 months in Viet Nam.
They pushed my wheel chair through all three campaigns, you incredibly unintelligent person.
Goldman Sachs was betting on how much damage they could do to the American Republic. They have been given the order from the Elite to spear head their Anglo British/American World order aka New World Order. Please listen in by calling 512-646-5000 or going to any of the previously listed web addresses. Anyone claiming the Federal Reserve is good, Socialism is good, Global Warming is True, etc. is an ENEMY of the Free American Republic. Remember Remember the 11th of September, the Banksters Treasonous Plot, for I've no reason the Banksters Treason shall ever be forgot~!
And yet they want the government to run healthcare. "Manufacturing delays?" Whatever happened to "the buck stops here?"
The vaccine was not produced by the government. It was produced by PRIVATE corporations. Other countries(Sweden, England, and Canada)have already had their H1N1 vaccine available. Oh, yeah, those are countries with the public healthcare system.....it really must suck, huh?
Not at all, I don't don't miss paying the 66 to 71% taxes
The government said a while back that this vaccine should be available around this time for those that most need it. Its available, the problem is that they cant get the distribution right. One more point for government health care, Ill bet you if the private sector was in charge of the distribution, this would of not happened. Keep hoping for the feds to manage youre health care, I wish us luck.
Deleon - it isn't the federal government deciding the distribution after it gets to your local area. If the distribution sucks - you have your city or county officials to thank.
Swine Flu Vaccine Recipients;
1-Obama's Family
2-Gitmo Terrorists
3-Wall Street Tycoons
Those not vaccinated yet
1-American Armed Forces
2-Mr and Mrs Average Joe American
3-Average Joe's Kids
Democrats,this is what you get when you elect a community organizer with 167 days Senate time before he felt "qualified" to be the most important man in the Free World.
Curious,
Great post! Obama's killing this country in so many ways, and now perhaps he's killing it's citizens.
Obama's family = 4
Gitmo terrorists = 500
Wall street = 1,400
Total doses distributed thus far = 36,000,000
Stop whining!
LMAO,where are they Einstein???
Add to the list incarcerated criminals. This is a good policy to immunize them. I'd hate to be the doctor on call at a community hospital who has to hospitalized a criminal for influenza (handcuffed to the bed), taking up a bed (esp. ICU) from a regular law-abiding citizen (i.e. your loved ones). I would expect our president, staff, Congress, etc. to be vaccinated. Also, health care workers, law enforcement, military (yes, they are getting shots). Even GITMO detainees and the military personnel there should get the shot. You want them getting ill, with the ensuing international political ramifications? It's only a few hundred out of millions of shots. And Goldman Sachs only got 200 out of 5400 shots requested.
Just another example of government run programs, Amtrack, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and the Post Office. What could be next??? Oh, I know Health Care.
Government Health Care will join these other successful Government endeavors.
AMTRAK
US Postal Service
Swine Flu Vaccine Program.
I bet you just can't wait
Don't forget the Verterans Hospitals. Just look at how well the government runs those........JUST ASK ANY VETERAN!!
This vaccine is not made here in the U.S. The U.S. has no control over the manufacturing process. Every country in the world is having shortages and they're making it as fast as they can. It's not just for the U.S. It's being distributed worldwide. Be glad that the world has the modern technology to produce a vaccine for a flu that started spreading about 6 months ago. That's a fete in itself. The only problem I've seen is every story about it on T.V. shows a clinic with a fridge full of it saying there's not enough. Distribute what you have you idiots. That's just that fewer people to spread it around. I want vaccinated and have asthma, but I know I will be waiting a while. But, I don't let it control my life...liven up LightHouse of Blacksmiths. When is the last time you smiled and enjoyed life?
This should be no surprise. There is always a short supply of it. Compound that with Barry's hope and change crew running the show and you have a recipe for failure. People suck it up. The chances of getting this and then it turning into something bad are minimal.
The poor response and lack of timely H1N1 vaccine is a travesty by the current Administration of Obama that is much greater than Katrina ever was for which the Bush Administration caught so much heat. Why has the press not put the same kind of heat and criticism on Obama? Is that because it does not fit their agenda? As much as the Press roasted Bush on Katrina they would have annihilated him for a Swine Flu performance like Obama's.
Also, this is just a small preview as to how well they would handle Health Care, i.e. Wall Street first, the most vulnerable not getting the vaccine, etc. and this is with seniors fortunately not being considered among those of highest risk. With there already being over 1,000 deaths and counting I would hate to see what those numbers would be if seniors were part of the highest Swine Flu risk since they have already been shown to be the Administrations lowest Health Care priority.
I am greatly concerned about my husband who has several severe illness. Found out today NO ELDERLY persons over 64 will receive H1N1 vacination even though they are
in grave danger with severe illness. I know what they are saying that they have already been exposed years ago, I do not buy that, more elderly die from flu than anyone else.
Who cares?? The swine flu "pandemic" is a media created panic. Google how many deaths there are from the regular seasonal flu, it dwarfs the swine flu numbers. Wake up America
In other words, are we supposing that this is all some ploy to make lotsa money for some French company that puts together something they call a "cure"? What are the overall implications here? Why can't people, in the 21st. century just take care of themselves without this swine flu?
Once again, general obama of the socialist party has taken control of the distribution of this vaccine. We have known about this for over a year. I have talked to experts in the field of producing vaccines and their distribution. They have all said that enough vaccine would have been produced and distributed by August had the government not been involved.
THIS EVERYONE IS THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO HAVE CONTROL OF YOUR HEALTH CARE! Now do you socialists that voted for this idiot in the white house understand why he needs to resign and go back to Chicago where his corrupt political career began?
But Obama says!! But Obama says!! We be all dayed by time massa gets us the flew shot. He say we get by Octuber but ain't got none yet??
OK, so if they can't handle this how in the hell are they going to handle National Health Care. Cash for clunkers cost tax payers $24M per care. What a joke!.
No to National Health Care and the Public Option, No to Cap & Trade, No to anymore bail outs NO NO NO NO MO MONEY!!!!!!!!
back in 1970`s it was not safe no reseach is it safe? today is it .....
Gitmo ? Bankers? WTF, while little children die????
Its not like this flu is killing people. Its a minor version of the regular flu. Its all hype.
"Its not like this flu is killing people. Its a minor version of the regular flu"
You do realize that nearly all deaths from seasonal flu occur in January and February, right? It's only November.
I got the shot for my daugther, it took a little resourcefulness, but no, no money, as some implied, I got it at a free county clinic. We had to go to a couple clinics and be patient and persistent (meaning waiting three hours in cold weather). People in our country expect everything to be handed to them and don't like to be inconvenienced. I researched the risks and talked to every health professional I know (some pro vaccine, some against, some on the fence). My daughter has asthma and in the end I felt getting the vaccine was the best decision for her. The people on this board who judge and belittle parents who are trying to make the most responsible choice for their children should be ashamed of themselves, but of course they're too self-involved to see someone else's needs, they can only see things from their POV.
And how many people do not want, and will not take it?
It has bee reported that about 50% have chosen not to be vaccinated and have volunteered to be viral incubators for spreading disease.
So, I get the flu.....so what? It's not the worst thing that could happen to me and chances are, it won't kill me. I have never had a flu shot, I've only contracted the flu twice in my lifetime. People get sick, it's a fact of life. It's actually good to be exposed to some things, it raises our immunity. If the media didn't make such a hype out of it, people wouldn't be so upset about not getting their flu shot.
It's amazing to me what lengths people will go through to get a shot that will protect them against something that won't hurt them.....then that very same person will not take other steps to keep and stay healthy through proper diet and exercise.
And by the way, the H1N1 virus was already widespread before the vaccines even became available, so just how are these people volunteering to be viral incubators?
Lovely, yep, these are the folks I want to take care of my health insurance.
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