A new study just published in the Australian and New Zealand Journal of Psychiatry found that adults who were bullied as children were more likely than others to suffer from depression and anxiety, as well as a host of physical ills, including fatigue, pain and a greater susceptibility to colds.
If you were bullied in school, how do you feel about it now? Do you believe it's affected your health as an adult? Please share your thoughts and experiences.


Although I started life as a child prodigy (& a black market baby,) I was bullied relentlessly as a kid (& abused horribly at home, as well.) Most kids left school with a diploma. I left completely non-functional, with major depression & PTSD. Despite my attempts to repair my poor social skills (resulting from the childhood experiences,) things have only gotten worse since then. Now I also have agoraphobia & dissociative personality disorder, as well. Although my IQ is 187 (among the highest in recorded history,) I can barely function outside of my house, which makes pursuing my art career relatively impossible (I can't "shmooze.") I manage to work part-time at a local library only because I'm forced to. When I go home at the end of the day I break out in trembling fits & horrible, itchy rashes due to the stress of having to deal with people.
I know I'm going to die younger than "normal" because of all of this. To be honest I don't know that I have many years left now.
If adults were treated as I was, it would be a crime. Why do we throw our children to the wolves?
I have many of the same issues. I can't talk to or trust human beings even at the age of 29. I'm not sure I'll ever completely get over all the stuff I had to put up with as a kid.
At this point in my life I'm still dealing with depression and severe social phobia. I had a great deal of promise when I was in elementary school. I scored in the top national averages in math and science, but I ended up graduating from High School with a 1.2 GPA. I only went back to school when I got over my crippling suicidal depression at the age of 24. Now I am an engineering student near graduation and almost at the top of my class. That's good, but it's awful that I have to go out in the real world as an engineer at the age of 30. I wish I hadn't wasted so much time and had been able to go to a decent school instead of a mediocre state university. And I don't know how I'm going to get a job when I can barely make eye contact with people or use the phone.
If something like the things that happened to me happen to my children, I'm going to go batsh*t crazy on the families of the perpetrators. I'll sue the schools if I have to.
My social phobia and panic disorder are so bad that I'm on disability for it. I've always had social anxiety, but the bullying was the major contributor to the panic attacks and becoming actually phobic. I was practically non-functional in college. Congratulations for going back, wrathofkhan13. I could never handle it, and I'm 40 now.
LGramlich, intelligent and artistic? Yeah, the dumb kids hate that. I notice most of the bullies are dumb, talentless kids who have nothing going for them.
Best of luck, both of you.
I was a rather small child who was verbally abused at home by my stepfather. My family wasn't rich and I wasn't stylish or pretty, not sure how much that matters for grade school kids, but i was picked on routinely until about the 9th grade by both boys and girls. I had this small pack of girls in about the 3rd grade that just followed me around and tormented me. They would hold me against the wall in the classroom and beat/pinch me, spit, etc. I was physically attacked by several boys during those years as well. I wound up quitting band in the 8th grade because some of the same girls that tormented me in grade school were also in band. When I "beat" one of them to get her chair (anyone in band will know what I mean), it was like being in grade school all over, except more mental than physcial. They started picking on me in front of others about my physical appearance (skinny with no boobs), they would destroy my music and music stand, etc. My saving grace game in 9th grade when I started playing basketball. I was never that good but my teammates always looked out for me. No one messed with me much after that.
Today I have a successful job and feel like I'm well adjusted. However, it seems like I'm emotionally detached (and I get called out on this by my partner) from things. I keep things locked away and have struggled some with addictions to compensate I suppose. I have trouble making/keep long term, close relationships and tend not to be a "feely" type person. I'm always "prepared" for the hurt. I guess that was my way of getting through things when I was younger, and I never unlearned it.
As a former sufferer of agoraphobia and panic attacks, anxiety, etc., may I recommend a book that has helped me (actually saved my life.) It is called "Hope and Help for Your Nerves" by Dr. Claire Weekes. I can't say enough good things about this book! It was such a tremendous help to me. I am living a normal life because of this book. I hope it helps you as much as it helped me!
Good Luck!
I was bullied in school and subjected to verbal and emotional abuse in my family. As an adult employee of a public library system, I was bullied and harrassed relentlessly after making a complaint about fellow employees treatment of me and subsequently the supervisor also because of his response to my appeal for help. There was outright hostility towards me and I was labeled as a trouble maker. It just caught on like wildfire. No one will stand up for you. You are alone in these situations. To some you become a joke. Others just pretend nothing's going on. A later supervisor attempted to coach me to view it all as being the result of my reactions to things that where the problem. I don't think I've ever worked anywhere less civil. After ten years and being moved from one location to another, after being threatenen in public and accused of things I would never do or say, and being unfairly disciplined, I walked out of my job after being ranted and screeched at on a Monday morning by a supervisor. I was sent for psychological evaluaiton twice during my employment, after making complaints about the situation. I was told to take a psychiatric drug as a requirement for continued employment the first time. When I asked the employer and the physician for copies of these evaluations so I would know what condition I should be taking this drug for I was refused. Believe me when I say, the law does not protect adults.
Stupidly from the beginning, I had expected my employer to do the right thing but instead they always treated me as though I was the problem. The law does not protect you as an adult. There is at term for this - "mobbing." I don't ever want to work for anyone again. My health and emotional well being was so affected by this employment situation that I'm don't think I'm capable of working full time, although I have to work to support myself and my savings are just about gone. This is a big problem in this country and not just for kids.
A lot of adults are subjected to bullying in the workplace.
Webferret's recommendation of Claire Week's books is right on for panic and anxiety conditions. After a period of abuse many years ago I had developed severe panic attacks, etc. and her books were very helpful to me then.
We moved a lot because my dad was in the Marines, so I was always the "new kid". Imagine a Marine dad not teaching his son how to protect himself! Well, I was cast out into the mean old world of school bullies and was constantly being "called out". Usually, I would run home after school, hoping to avoid the bullies in school the next day. It never came down to getting beat up, but I was constantly stressed out that I would. One time, when I was just about to go into high school, I did get punched by a punk Mexican kid who had older brothers (if you know what I mean). I would have jumped all over him but I knew if I did, I'd get it bad sometime later. My dad was disgusted with me for not hittin him back. That really hurt. I'm fairly healthy except for the arthritis. I made sure my son never had to go through that and had him in Tai Quan Do classes at age 4. Now he is a confident college student. Parents, be sure your kids are well adjusted and confident. Get them into things like sports or self defense at a young age so that they will grow up confident and not get picked on. And if they do, tell them to kick the other kids you know what and sort it out later!
I too was bullied in school -- being younger and smarter with no social skills, middle school and high school were a nightmare! Fortunately, college was better and then I ended up in the Army (of all places) which turned out to be a "saving grace".
Now I have a good job and marriage, but still sometimes struggle with "social skills".
I'm honestly not sure how effective "bullying programs" are in our schools. Perhaps at the younger levels where the teachers have more control over the students they work.
I think for high school students, it's time we realized that not every kid fits into our "social" high schools -- for that's what they are -- and make alternative arrangements for them. With computers, online schools, the internet, this is indeed possible. I don't think the argument that these kids will "learn" social skills in high school is valid, because they don't. Let them take an alternative route and move on to college. While enjoyable, sports, cheerleaders and dances are NOT necessary for an education (as can be noted by the rest of the world, where these activities are NOT in high school).
Despite having a high IQ and natural talent, the bullying that I received in school and at home left me without any viable social skills, unable to fit in with my "peers", cancer at 32 and 2 heart attacks by age 47. I am now classified as bipolar and suffer from PTSD. I don't work anymore and have given up trying. My last boss was a horrible bully that finally sent me over the edge for good. I stay away from people in general now and spend time at home and with my dog. I've gained 60lbs. I can't make plans for anything because the stress of having to go anywhere makes me physically ill. I am sad and angry.
I know how you feel. I am currently being bullied by both of my bosses and I'm desperately looking for a new job. Sadly, there's not much out there right now. I hate dealing with people in person or on the phone. I was bullied through grade school and part of the way into high school. I just pray that my unborn child won't have to put up with the same stuff I'm going through! I know stress is bad for a fetus, but what else am I to do?
I was bullied relentlessly and daily for 3 years of middle school. I am scarred for life, suffer PTSD, and have been in therapy for 14 years. Luckily, I had a successful and very happy high school, college and graduate school experience, but the scars of the bullying are still with me and have significantly negatively impacted my social and professional relationships throughout my life. I feel I am on the road to recovery, but it has exacted a huge toll on my marriage and my self-confidence. I was told to ignore the bullies and be happy and confident despite them, but that did not make them go away, as the article alludes to.
I do not have confidence schools can do much. Yes, while they may state they have a no tolerance policy, I do not believe many will follow through and take action to prevent or decrease bullying--only maybe at the most liberal and progressive of schools. The bullying takes place outside the classroom and away from teachers: in the halls between class, on the playground before and after school, walking home from school, at night via phone calls (in today's environment, on the internet and texting).
Fostering a sense of community, love and acceptance towards others beginning in pre-school is part of the solution. Insisting as parents, teachers, and friends we treat each other with respect and how we want to be treated needs to be emphasized. Narcissistic parents who believe their own children can do wrong also contribute because they aren't willing to "hear" that their kids are bullying others. While these solutions are flowery and idealistic, they need to be part of the solution.
Yes, I was bullied in school. Teased about whatever I wore, my grades, for my manners (as in, having them and using the phrases please and thank you) being constantly called ugly, no teacher would ever help - they'd tell me to stick up for myself. Yeah, a note to oblivious teachers and parents: IT MAKES THINGS WORSE FOR THE CHILD! GET INVOLVED! I had no friends. Pair this with being physically and mentally abused at home, my childhood was terrible. I still hate the people who teased me. Now they try to contact me on various social networking sites and it makes me physically ill. If any kids pick on my kids, I will go into ultra-kickass mode on their parents and teachers.
I was buillied all through junior high and high school. Being an overweight girl, being taller than most in my class (5'8" by the time I was 13), and considered a geek because I was a "brain," I was a target. I faced humiliation every day. The teachers and administrators ignored it all. Eventually I realized that bullies are cowards. I focused on ways to exploit that weakness. I found that a good way to deflate a bully was to laugh at him or her. It showed that I didn't take them seriously. They were humiliated in front of their friends (a bully always has a posse). I was roughed up a couple of times but after a while the bullies realized they weren't getting to me and moved on to other targets. Another technique I used was to do a full frontal face down - mainly a stare-down. A bully would come up behind me and start picking on me. I would turn around and lock eyes with the bully. I never broke that stare even when surrounded by the bully's friends. The bully always blinked first. Then I would walk towards him or her in a deliberate manner. The bully always backed away. I made sure that I was more confrontational than the bully without being violent. Bullies don't expect that their targets to turn on them. Eventually I was left alone.
As for health issues, I have been diagnosed several times with depression and at one time had an ulcer. Whether that's from being bullied or more contemporary issues I can't say. However, I'm sure some component of these emotional and physical health problems stems from bullying. I know some people will say being bullied is a rite of passage as a teenager. I disagree. No one deserves to go through that "just because" teenagers will be teenagers. I'm glad to see that schools are addressing this.
I started school with a serious overbite and buck teeth, even at that age. I was also smaller than the other students, and I was extremely shy. Also, I was highly intelligent and wanted nothing more than to bring my book to school with me and read it. I was verbally abused about my physical attributes; I was physically abused by having people grab my ankles while I was sitting on the toilet and pulling me off, having people shove me hard while I was swinging so that I would fall off the swing, and in Jr. High School, people would accuse me of writing bad things about them on the bathroom walls and then actually signing my name to the bad things I'd written - I was ratpacked in the schoolyard because of one of those supposed bad things I'd written (and supposedly signed my name to) and slapped around so badly that I cried all through my next class, purely because my heart was broken at the tactics that these kids used to make excuses to hurt me. My parents tried so hard, but they could not believe that people were really that mean to me. I never completed high school, despite my high IQ - I gave up and cut classes for most of my senior year because I could no longer deal with the torment. I took the GED and am gainfully employed, but I feel I could have done a lot better in my work life if I'd felt able to go to college. I was just so sick of school at that point that I could not tolerate any more education. I've been diagnosed with depression and generalized anxiety disorder, and I can't tolerate any type of anger directed at me, and I can't tolerate having people be critical of something I do - I just go into that sad, depressed state in which I feel worthless. That is what bullying does to you - it destroys your self-esteem, and I don't think that one can ever build it up again. No matter what praise you may earn later in life, nothing can make you feel like anything more than that scared little kid, and you're convinced that the people who say good things about you are either (a) dead wrong, and someday they'll discover what a bad person you are and stop liking you, or (b) the victim of a bad joke whereby the person who says nice things about you will turn out to have been your enemy all along, and is actually saying bad things about you behind your back.
I'm almost always fearful in new situations; I'm shy about approaching more than one person, no matter how well I know the group of people; I'm convinced that people only tolerate me because I do good things for them. At work I'm constantly praised for my teamwork and cooperation - little do they know that I'm just trying as hard as I can not to get yelled at or criticized in any way!
I was bullied, but not to the extent my grandson was. He entered a prestigious charter school in the eighth grade as an A student. He was "chunky." One student in particular dumped his backpack in the trash and scattered his papers about the campus. This was ongoing. He didn't tell his family for fear of exacerbating the situation. The office secretary told the headmaster repeatedly who was responsible, but the bullying continued. By the end of ninth grade, my grandson had gained more weight and was failing in his classes. We requested a hearing before the board of directors, but were told that my grandson would be expelled if we insisted. Expulsion, of course, would have made it difficult, if possible at all, to enroll him in another school. My grandson was in counselling for many months, and we were poorer for the legal fees we paid trying to keep my grandson from being expelled. The school is a charter school in name only. In reality, it is a conservative religious school. One of the "advisors" is CEO of a group of religious schools in the East.
I just ran into this article on the internet and it brought back a flood of memories.
I had been bullied severely when I was younger. I happened to me as far back as I remember and stopped sometime in high school when I grew a little larger and started to push back.
It makes me think of all the health problems I have had and am currently experiencing.
Even as I am writing this I have been up all night feeling nauseous and battling a severe head pain since yesterday evening, a headache which I have had as far back as I can remember. All of this starting Sunday morning, and going down hill from then.
At times my mind seems to be floating in a constant sea of alteration. No one thing remains, I must move on from thought to thought, feeling no accomplishment, feeling no fulfillment. When my mind drifts away, it is as though the previous thoughts had never existed. Sometimes I sit in silence.
I am far from what I want to be. Yet, most times it is too easy for me to settle for who I am. I find myself too often consumed by what I am lacking, or what I should do, to get anything accomplished. I need strength to focus on my responsibilities and objectives. Most of the time I can not accomplish anything on my own.
I now wonder if a lot of it has to to with my childhood.
Are you me?
Joking aside, I hear this.
I really feel for you people who were bullied and now suffer as adults. You are right, LGramlich, the behaviors we tolerate from children would be crimes if committed by adults. I too was bullied as a child. A girl once slammed my head into a wall, nearly knocking me out (at 10 years old). I was punished, because obviously as a boy, I was the aggressor. Every time she saw me thereafter, she would point and laugh, bragging to her friends. I dreaded going to school, especially in junior high. I was tormented almost daily. I was also gifted and had plenty of opportunities to be successful, but now I am in my mid-thirties, still single, terrified to even ask a woman out (even though I am athletic and considered good-looking, even by beautiful women), barely earning enough to pay my bills, suffer from depression and anxiety and have suffered from drug abuse and alcoholism. I look back on my childhood with pain in my heart. What can I do now? I don't know. I am afraid I will eventually wind up on disability, or have to work 2 or 3 crappy jobs just to support myself. I am afraid to live.
Why our society has tolerated bullying for so long, even encouraged it, is beyond me. It takes an enormous toll on individuals and society. Sometimes, bullies get what's coming to them, but often only after terribly hurting someone. A boy in my junior high school threw another (a subject of constant harassment) down a flight of concrete stairs. He needed 111 stitches in the back of his head. He could have been killed (at age 12). The bully got expelled. It should have happened sooner.
Although I don't suffer as you all, I engaged in some very self-destructive behavior in my teens and twenties due to the awful bullying I endured in middle school. I, too, was smart and talented. I was also very tall and very thin, which I now realize made other girls jealous. The girls were awful to me, and I missed a lot of school (but was still able to keep up for the most part). I was constantly told I was ugly, unlovable, awkward, etc. Things improved somewhat in high school but then a very immature guy started a rumor that I was a slut (I was a virgin at the time).
In my later high school, college and early post-college years, I had many sexual partners (thank God it was pre-AIDS era); I constantly worried what others thought of me. I needed the acceptance of others to feel good about myself. Instead, I felt awful, endured more bullying and a "bad reputation," and was often ill. I was diagnosed with an autoimmune disorder in my 30s.
The only positive thing that came from the bullying I endured is that I'm raising my children with self-esteem. I was able to advocate for my son with a principal that thought bullying was "a normal right of passage," and my kids know I'm on their side completely. Schools may have "policies" but they don't always enforce them. I've had to go to the school with lists of names, dates, etc. to get them to take action against the bullies. One school had a "3 strikes" policy where they didn't even call the bully's parents until the victim reported them 3 times! Ridiculous!
Very important social science subject. There are different levels of bullying. Some of the worst bullying is from people who you think are your friends.
For example, I was in the Boy Scouts with kids from my neighborhood. There was one particular kid who was highly intelligent for our age group at the time (maybe 12-14 yrs) and very good at manipulating people and creating hiearchies within our group of kids. So, anyway, the guy never beat me up or anything, but he would leave me out of invitations to his parents cottage while the other four guys would be invited, he blew up my parents mailbox and bragged to my face about it, and when we were at scout camp got me to eat an overdose of exlax which made me very sick for one week of a two week stay. I was really sick, but I reported it to no one. Incidentally, the guy's father was the Scout Master! These sporadic but often incidences at the time seemed to me as a early teen kid as no big deal and that I just needed to suck it in. He also vandalized our property, raided our rasberry patch, and his stupid drunk aunt ran over my dog and no one from their family apologized for it ever, and never said he was sorry. For some reason, all of this stuff has recently come back to me, much of it perhaps as part of some mild blues. But anyway, I also remember that I had bullied a really innocent kid in the scout troop which I feel incredibly bad about now, and not that it is an excuse for my bad behavior, but I think this bullying stuff is contagious. People say that you should fight back, but the bottom line is that if you are small you will lose, especially if no one is there to defend you. Anyway this kid got his license one day and basically never bothered with any of us in the neighborhood again- we weren't good enough for him and he was too smart for us, but I always told myself that if I saw him around town ( I think he moved away) I would definately confront him and demand an apology, and if I didn't get one, he was going to lose some teeth, because during the interim I picked up some skills playing hockey if you know what I mean. I tell my kids to not bother other kids for any reason if you do not like them, but never name call or pick on or insult or hurt anyone. It's not right. But, if someone physically assaults you, you have the right to defend yourselve and protect your self from further harm by hurting them physically if you need to-basic human right regardless of a school's policy, and the bullying kid might learn as lesson as well and curtail his behavior. I also tell my kids that if people are calling you names or making fun of you or insulting you, there is probably not much you can do about it, except that none of it is true and leave the situation and report it to Mom or Dad. Verbal abuse can be a precursor to physical abuse. I tell my kids that any bad things that people say about you or the spreading of rumors is not an indication of your self worth- it's just some stupid kid shooting his mouth off who is actually putting others down to feel better about themselves which is the ultimate display of human weakness. Kids need to know that they can report these acts without being made to feel weak or ashamed, especially these days with all the violence, and schools need to get real about educating and warning kids about the whole issue.
I was bullied, but it subsided in highschool when I learned to fight back without regard for the consequences. It took very little of this to end it. I was also abused at home physically. I was miserable as a child, depressed and anxious as a teen and young adult, but I graduated with a Master's degree, got a good job, raised several children, and found my strength. I am now very happy, functional, and socially capable. I learned most of my social skills in my early 30s, by trial and error, since up to that point I was around my family, coworkers, but avoided any other social contact. I think there's always the possibility of change. Never give up hope. Remember that although there people that do terrible things, there are many loving people that do wonderful things. Never stop loving yourself, and keeping up hope. Anything is possible, and happiness is something you can choose if you set your mind to it.
Good for you! You seem to be the one post I have read sofar that pulled themselves up by the bootstraps and not let what happened to you as a child ruin their adult life. We all have challenges as children, some so much worse than others. Our childhoods are a big part of who we become as adults, but should not be used as an excuse for our lack of functioning or sorry lot in life.
LL- Sorry but I think you are missing the point here. There is ONE post out of all of these people who have overcome the trauma of a rough childhood. ONE. Why is it always a victim's fault when they suffer from abuse??? You, LL, are one sick individual!
LL -- I disagree. If you read my post, you'd see I have a good job and a good marriage. In anyone's book, that should be a success. However, I also admit to some lacking in social skills. Things I just didn't learn as a kid -- and am still learning. There are thousands just like me ... and I'm sure you know some.
The point I'm trying to make is that there should be no need for kids to go through this since there are viable alternatives that were not available when I was a kid.
Oh Please, miskaffon.
Why is it always a victim's fault when they suffer from abuse?
It's absolutely never their fault but it is their responsibility to make a better life for themselves, recover from the abuse and get on with the business of living instead of continuing to use their childhood as an excuse for being a lousy adult. I'm a survivor, you only seem bitter.
LL, it's a matter of walking in someone else's shoes, which you cannot do...and you are not some omniscient god or goddess.
LL- I am hardly bitter. I have no abuse from parents or family to get over. Bullying from classmates at school, yes, at home not so much. There are as many ways to survive and suffer as there are individuals. YOU are one who wants to BLAME BLAME BLAME anyone who isn't as "perfect" as you....
I have two kids who are great, a nice home, and a 15-year-short marriage. I am also a survivor of a brutal, horrifying attack from a stranger when I was 11. I managed to rip, claw, and otherwise physically beat off a man who outweighed me by 200 lbs. and convince him to let me go. By statistical data I should be dead, buried in a shallow grave nearby where he pulled me off my bike while riding to my friend's house.
During my normal day I really never think about what happened, I don't dwell on it. Yet, I am beginning to have anxiety attacks now, over 25 years later. This article questions if people have issues such as this; could they be associated with trauma such as that.
Why would it be ok to blame me for the attack, tell me to "just get over it" when I only thought of it while reading this article????? It's my fault for having been attacked? That's just backwards; I didn't ask for this. This guy was never caught by the way- he's seen no repercussions for what he did to me. I'm the one with the life sentence in the physical symptoms that I have no idea if they are related or not!!!!
I was born with Cerebral Palsy. Everyone said it was mild, but I was weaker than everyone else. In sixth grade, I was being bullied and the stress was so much that I was saved by coming down with Rheumatic fever and spent the rest of spring and all summer in the hospital. I had to have a tutor come to my house until January. The walk to my bus stop for school was 1/4 mile and my doctor did not want me to walk and wait for the bus, so I had to ride the special bus to school and take the regular bus home. I took steroids for three years and penicillin until I was 18.
I know how you feel. I am currently being bullied by both of my bosses and I'm desperately looking for a new job. Sadly, there's not much out there right now. I hate dealing with people in person or on the phone. I was bullied through grade school and part of the way into high school. I just pray that my unborn child won't have to put up with the same stuff I'm going through! I know stress is bad for a fetus, but what else am I to do?
You need to stand up for yourself. With bosses, you have to know how to put a person in their place in a professional manner. I put them in their place and am professional about it. It stims from being picked on in school. Now, I have zero tolerance for being picked on.
Wow, what a flood of memories, 48 this year and still have a hard time dealing with people on a daily basis. Was beat up and made fun of my entire school years. Joined the Army fresh out of high school, shipped overseas and had to learn to deal with people but still will never trust them always worried what they may be saying about me. Have learned to not care what they think but it's still in the back of my head. Have come along way in life, great career, wife and family. My daughter has some of my same traits but she did very well in school but also was very shy. Learned long ago to onlly worry about making me and those important to me happy. The rest of them can get f'd as far as I'm concerned, they will all have to pay at some point in time. I agree with most others that most bullies aren't very intellegent and most times come from all walks of life. What a terrible shame the world is so cruel. I now have some very dear friends who I would go to the end of the earth for, happiness is really all life is about, it's short and your gone before you really now how to enjoy it. Would be afraid to go to a shrink for fear of all the problems they would find. Just keep in inside and keep telling myself to enjoy life for what it is and ignor the idiots in life. No sense in bitching about it because only you can fix yourself and be happy, making excuses and saying we are having health problems because of it is just another way to try and get someone to feel sorry for you. I've made it this far on my own and my family I don't need the rest of this sorry a** world to help. There will always be cruel people in the world we just need to teach to be confident of yourself once you reach an age to comprehend, took me until 30. I'm sure most won't agree with my comments but it's just the way I feel. Thanks for letting me vent after all these years.
My dad was in the Air Force so we moved often and every new base had a new set of bullies. At first I tried keeping my distance and avoid being noticed but that only put me on the bullies’ radar. I did stand up for myself and fought back. Because of fighting I was suspended from school several times even though I didn't start the fights. I felt betrayed by a system that says standup for yourself but punishes you for doing so. My experiences with bullies made me suspicious of people and I'm very cautious when in unfamiliar social situations. I’ve had health problems dating back to elementary school with stomach ulcers, migraine headaches, depression, and anxiety. I don’t know if bullies created the health issues I’ve had but they sure didn’t help them. Sadly bullies don’t just go away after school is over. I encountered bullies when I served in the military and have had several as bosses who used their position to bully subordinates. The world has had and always will have bullies. Wars are fought because of bullies. Bullies are the bane of humanity and perhaps setting them straight at an early age would help create a better world.
The Bully's Side to this Story:
I was the bully, yea my life was hell so I took it out on others, my step dad beat me senseless, my step brother started raping me at 4, by the time I was 12 I was the meanest MF you would not want to meet. My tattoo says it well, a scorpion, that was the name I got when I was in the Marines, because I would just rather hit someone than talk to them.
After the Marines and a tour of Nam while in a bed in Okinawa I decided I could become whatever I wanted. March 18th, 1968, that is when my life started. Went to College became successful, our product is found in every big box store and home improvement center in the US and two successful children that are still my best friends. I did this by moving on in my life, leaving what happened to me behind, and also leaving the type of person I was behind. I came home without a dime and no family. I have built my life from that date and proud of everything I have accomplished from that date, (and I still do not use the VA)
My message, GET OVER IT! Bullies had their own problems at home, there is a reason they were bullies. Whining and crying does not change a thing, YOU CAN. Letting some dysfunctional bully ruin your entire life while he fixes his does not make sense. (and if he did not fix his life, he is no doubt sitting in a prison)
Your life starts when you move on.
Telling someone to "get over it" is not as easy as you think once the damage is done. It's like telling someone that is depressed to "snap out of it." It just isn't going to happen. If I am threatend by an man or woman, there is nothing I can do. I am physically handicapped. I can't stand up for myself. I need someone there to help me. Unfortunately there was never anyone there. I'm really glad that you were able to pull yourself up and move on. That is great. You have what it takes. Some of us don't.
Dear Bully - Obviously, you still can't see what your or the actions of your fellow bullies have done to people. Perhaps you missed the part where most of us stated that we were very intelligent people. Don't you think that the majority of us would rather "get on" with our lives rather than live in the misery of your wake? Bullies took from us what can not be replaced. Depending on the severity, most of us were destroyed at a crucial time in our lives. Some of us, not having any type of support base added considerably to your destruction of our self-esteem. Most of the bullies that I have known have become successful. I'm sure that they too don't really look back on the anguish that their climb up the ladder caused a lot of people.
I wish I could have said that PhoenixGal. The bullies are always stronger, that's why they can do it. I was destroyed as child and early teen. Everyone could spot me as the weakling because of the limp and the way I held my right arm. It just wanted to raise up to my waist with my hand hanging down limp. That's why I din't have any friends too.
Hi Bully, you seem to be a pathetic sort. I knew a few guys just like you. You seemed to think that becaused you were **** by your older brother, that you could take it out on others. I like you enjoyed kicking the **** out of somebody but I did it to guys that bullied others. When I was in the band a lot of my friends were bullied. Not you, but most of the people that bullied did not like to fight but only intimidate. With me, they HAD to fight.
If you had been different and protected others, you would have had friends, been admired and stilll have many of those same friends. I hope you have changed.
Bully is still a bully. There is a big difference between bullies and victims. Bullies often do have a sad story of their own, but they have aggressive, nasty genes that cause them to be aggressive and nasty.
They make kind, sensitive people victims and give them a sad story, only they don't turn around and send that pain onto someone else. I don't believe they can change. They should simply be avoided if you can. And have their ass kicked when you can't.
Another thing about bullies is they won't go after someone their own size. I rembember 10th grade. I had to take lunch at 5 period and there were two bullies going from table to table eating eveyone else's food. I knew they would go after me and I decided to not let them. I wonder how the lunch room monitors didn't see what they were doing? When one of them got to me I hit his hand with my hand and told him to get out of here. We both looked at each other and then he knocked me off the bench. One of the guys at the table that was the bullies size got up and he told the bully if he touched anyone's lunch he was going to kick his ass. The bully walked away with his tail tucked between his legs. I loved it.
To "thebully" if "getting over it" is so easy, why didn't you just "get over it" when you were 12 and not have gone on to bully others?
Kevinlisa: PERFECT! Spot-on. Bully was just looking for excuses to be ugly to others, and obviously had the size, gender, and spirit to be so big as to torment others on a regular basis. I did not have the physical strength, and was taught to be a "young woman". I was tormented by the "in" crowd; from elementary through high school, though not as bad as some others here. I was lucky enough to come out relatively unscathed, but do not deal very easily with people on a day-to-day social level. I always feel as though I am still being laughed at and am the subject of gossip (and I know I am via some proof). I have developed anxiety, but I don't think that's really the issue of bullying; I've been through a couple of other traumas more likely to be at the base of that issue.
Still, I get VERY tired of phychotic reactions that blame the victim of violence rather than dealing with those who are violent toward others.
Telling us to get over the @!$%# we went through is not easy. I went through something terrible when I was only 6 and I have a hard time dealing with it all even though I am trying to go for a good career. I will never be able to move on even if I do manage this career. NEVER! My dignity, self-esteem, and self-respect have been destroyed thanks to people like you. Thanks to the people who bullied me, idk if I will be able to live out my life.
No - I get it. I do. I have the conversation every day with myself about how I need to move on and let the past be the past and just cowboy up and become the best future me that I can be. But it's still a struggle, and it's something that people on both sides of the abuse/bullying equation have to deal with on some level. I'm not mired down in self pity but I'm also not some shining superstar of joy and rainbows either. I very truly am a product of my childhood, AND my teenagerhood, AND my adulthood. All three encarnations are feeding the person I am now and I'm slowly learning how to manage the bad stuff and how to keep moving toward the good stuff.
So yeah, I get it. People do need to "get over it" if they're going to have any kind of quality in their lives, but it's no simple switch to flip and it takes a lot of work. AND it helps if we can find loving, patient people to stand by us as we do it and steer us back on course when we need it. I'm getting over it, sure. I'll be getting over it for the rest of my life, probably, as will you.
my two cents.
I am not surprised at the messages I have read on this matter or the study that has led to the conclusion that bullying and it's effects are much more damaging than previously considered.
My experiences have told me that the effects of bullying can last a lifetime. I also know that bullying from teachers is another source of misery for a victim and of course it is always the victim's fault. That is the hallmark of an abusive adult who should not have contact or authority over children.
I have also experienced bullying as an adult with a disability which leads me to think that bullies deserve to be sued as well as criminally prosecuted and I have arrived at the conclusion that bullies are insecure nasty kids who grow up to be nasty adults with problems of their own that have not been addressed.
Isolation is a strong and sometimes only resource victims feel they have avaliable to them; it provides a barrier and a way to protect oneself from bullies.
Trust is another big issue for victims that adds to the difficulties victims have for a lifetime and by the time a victim becomes an adult enough has become too much.
Public schools have only recently acknowledged that bullying is a big problem which is something that should have been acknowledged a long time ago and more needs to be done to address the problem on campus. Perhaps it is one step in the right direction but for a good many victims it is too late.
Oh yes. I have been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, depression and obsessive compulsive disorder. I am on disability and will never work again. I have social anxiety, anticipational anxiety, sleep disorder and am basically a mess. I never left my apartment until the day after my doctor prescribed Xanax. I take 1mg four times a day.
All this happened from being picked on????? You must have really went through something bad. I thought my past was bad enough from being picked on, but I managed to put it behind me and move on.
That's too much Xanax. 4mg a day? You must be stoned all day long. You need some cognitive therapy to help you function normally without so much Xanax. Think about it. Good luck.
I'm not stoned at all. The Xanax really helps me function. The medication I take that enables me to fall and stay asleep is worse than the Xanax. I wake up with a drug hangover every morning. It takes at least an hour for me to wake up.
I feel bad for you. You need a doctor that can get to the root causes of your issues with either medicine or therapy or both. I hope at least that you are not abusing alcohol or illegal drugs. Peace out.
I don't drink because I don't like the taste of alcohol. I stopped self medicating with pot the day I began taking Xanax. Xanax has helped me very much. That was pretty close to two years ago.
I know the feeling. When I was in Elementary, Junior and High School, I was picked on by other kids. I remember in Elementary School, I was at my desk minding my own business and one girl smacked me upside my head and called me a "Black B----". I should have stood up for myself then and fought her and I would have been left alone, but I cried in the bath room and later told the teacher. He did speak with them. I had no problems later. One time, a boy, (who was taking Karate), pulled my out of the bus line and got in front of me. I did go through some things in shcool. It made me tougher in my adult life. Now, I take no mess from anyone.
You go, girl!