maybe they could send lots of them to Haiti so the Haitians can make nice comfortable nests in the trash piles they live in.

gary, you are an idiotl

I'm surprised AETA isn't picketing. Animals for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. JUST KIDDING FOLKS Glad to see happy, warm critters

Rob: Have you ever been to Haiti? BEFORE the earthquake, to see how the vast majority of them live?

I was thinking boxers for Boxers. ;)

too late on the panties,,been out for a long time lol

Or they could buy many many fur coats, and give their old ones. Much better idea.

Nothing beats a fur coat, for people or animals.

Glo, I quadruple that! I hope in my lifetime that we see less and less designers that will refuse to use fur! Donna Karan finally stopped and Stella McCartney never has and never will.

Tired of silly, do you really enjoy wearing a carcass? Never mind. Your response shows your lack of compassion.

What the Fruck is wrong with you people !

Are you all the long lost relatives of Adolf Hitler blogging from your compound in Argentina?

Where do you get the right to tell anyone what they can or can not do in this country? How about what you do or wear? Would it be alright if someone told you that you have to throw away half of the clothes you own, because they don't like where they came from?

How about someone throwing a cup of black ink in your face and telling you that you are a slave owner because the clothes you are wearing were manufactured in Pakistan or China by 8 year old girls that have to work 12 hour days.

How about if someone spit on you and told you that you are destroying the environment because the cotton blue jeans you are wearing are made from cotton that was grown using petro-chemical based fertilizer that is destroying the environment

How about if someone followed you everywhere you went screaming at you because the nylon that your shoes are made of will still be around 1,000 years from now in a landfill somewhere after you have worn them out and thrown them away.

I am wondering what is next on your agenda. Maybe telling people who they can and can not get married to.

Or what religion they can and can not believe in.

Or who they can and can not vote for in the next election

Or what they can and can not eat.

Oh yeah ! Great great great grandpappy Adolf would be soooooo proud of you all working so hard at taking away someone else's rights.

I am wondering what is next on your agenda. Maybe telling people who they can and can not get married to.

That's already been happening with gays and lesbians not being able to marry the person they love. But that's another thread.

Gary Cooper--you seem awfully tense. As far as I know, none of the animals killed for their fur were volunteers. China is the largest fur export country in the world. It is common for animals there to be skinned alive.

No animal should have to go though that so some stupid person can have a coat or any other fur trimmed garment.

I think it's a great way to recycle. Most of the furs around are older from the 50's & 60's when it was acceptable to wear them. What else would they do with them, put them in the landfill, let them get dried out and hang in a closet only to scare their grandkid's?

My step grandmother was a real tool, she was a raging alcoholic. She came to visit and brought one of those god forsaken furs of hers. My mom would put Ever Clear in her Vodka bottle so she would pass out and we didn't have to put up with the loon. Anyway, our pyscho cat from Hell attacked her fur and there was fur and fur chunks from hell to breakfast! It was awful! She never even noticed, she was to busy griping about the fur flying around in her cocktail.

That they're warm and safe.

So the humane society houses minks? I thought they were giving them to the dogs? The coats aren't made out of dog fur are they? Wow.

Actually, a lot of the furs being sold today are from dogs and cats. The HSUS has great information on the use of these animals for their furs. Due to loopholes in US laws, fur items under a certain dollar amout DO NOT HAVE to be labelled. So American consumers may very well be wearing Fido.

The solution--don't wear anyone's skin except your own!

Wearing their fur when they are already dead doesn't bother me nearly as much as

a) killing them because they are homeless and/or inconvenient

b) depriving them of their sexuality to keep them from reproducing (they still can't figure out a more humane method of birth control than castration or spaying?)

You haven't seen a neighborhood over ran by Ferrel cat's. This is mean.......... Injured by fighting each other, dragging a broken leg or limb around. Sick cats with Distemper dropping dead in your yard. Torn up limbs from sitting on a motor to stay warm and being ground up when the owner starts their car. Poisoned cats because there is no clean water source. Kittens with eyes the size of grapes full of puss because who knows what. Dead kittens with their heads torn off because of the out of control Tom cats and inappropriate shelter. No ears or frozen ears from frost bite. Starving cat's so sick they can hardly move. Each momma cat can have litters up to 6 or more cats, and if 3 of the littler are females they can each have 6 or more. Spaying and Nuetering is the only and best way we have, it has to be done. It is not mean.

I agree about the problems associated with overcrowding and bad conditions, and I truly believe in population control. However with all the concern that animal rights groups have about respecting the freedom and feelings of individual animals, it really does surprise me that the primary and usually the only method that is available to prevent reproduction is so barbaric. You can not seriously think that castration is not cruel.

I take them in and pick them up at 5:00 PM, and they are tearing around the next morning. I seriously think that letting Tom Cat's fight till death is cruel. I also think that having to take a Tom Cat to the vet to have an infected cut, lanced and cleaned from fighting is cruel. I also think that letting your cat become a porker and gain 10#s after being neutered is cruel. I wish there was a magical cure for animals, but the truth is they are animals.

Yer darn tootin right o' right! Dem Der Wippernsnappers were askin ye to donate to a cause. How the hell ye suppos'ta get yer bootskootinanni on without at least 5 pieces of the leather down at the okey-dokey corral? Let's settle this at sunrise. You bring the chew, I'll bring the tumbleweed.

Nurse, we got another one that escaped the ward!

Classic!! Love it!!!

Old Guy, your compassion is underwhelming---jerk!

Bite me!

Old Man, I will bite you.

Old guy's ignorance is amazing.

Yep! It's people (read human animal) like you that got us to where we are now. Bet you all voted for hope and change, didn't you?

Go ahead, puff yourselves up in the anonymity of the internet. I'd lay odds that you think you're just as good as any other animal .... and, you'd be right!

No I didn't vote for Obama. And I'll tell anyone to their face what I think of wearing fur. That's a promise that will be kept.

I did not vote for Obama either and I use my real name on my posts.

Y'all are just too easy! LOL!!!

What's wrong with what Old Guy said? How many of you wear leather shoes, boots, carry a leather purse or wallet, ate a hamburger at all or a steak? How warm is that leather jacket? Have a feather pillow and had a nice chicken BBQ last summer?

Sounds to me like a whole bunch of two-faced folks out there that jump on one pc moment but don't like to see themself in the same picture as the people they are attacking.

And what has voting for or against Obama have to do with anything? Idiots. (My apologizes to those people that have an actual I.Q. below 20, not to the ones that act like they do).

Er Rob. I don't think I said anything about him wearing anything. Well other than poking some fun at the his listing his leather gear like some Master Dom at a BDSM lounge.

It was the comment, "If you want to donate your old fur to comfort another animal - go for it. However, you try to force your will upon me - we gonna dance!" that made me laugh at the sheer hypocisy of it all. That and the cute little threat at the end. And "don't you dare try and tell me." It's adorable. I hear- I can have an opinion and vocalize it, but none you can!

Anyhoodle~ Have a nice day Rob. :)

OK Old Guy: How's about we conk you over the head, open a vein and then strip your skin off while you're still breathing? That's how they get the fur for the coats. Wearing fur was about the only way to keep warm in the old days, but now we have lots of alternative synthetic fabrics to wear. Last time I looked, our Constitution did not protect our right to harm innocent animals. I know you're just trying to get a rise out of everyone commenting here, but what kind of Neanderthal are you?

The Constitution may not come right out and "protect our right to harm innocent animals" Jordana, but it does protect Old Guy's right to say what he thinks as well as your right to call him a Neanderthal. (I do so love it when people grab onto the Constitution to make their point but have no understanding of it).

Your_ignorance_is_showing, yes it is. I made no mention of you in my post so unless there is a little voice telling you you're wrong in your post (which I was amused by) my post wasn't meant for you in particular.

Well Robbie, you stuck your fat nose in a thread and asked some probing questions and got an answer. It looked like you needed attention and who am I to ignore a little guy crying out for love?

Actually my nose is rather thin compared to the rest of me so little only pertains to that part of my body. I also have all the love and attention I need in my life so that little jab of yours was a waste of time...sort of like you and your life.

Aw.. Robbie Rob is a pouter.

You truly are ignorant. Without seeing a picture of me how are you able to determine that I am or am not pouting? I do, however, recognize a rather juvinile attempt to poke fun at me in an attempt to "get under my skin" so...let's see if I can paint a picture for you. I retired at the age of 45 and I live in Switzerland. You do the math and try to figure out if I'm pouting or smiling...with or without a fur coat. :)

And I am the Queen of England sunning in the South of France. Or wait. Maybe I am a heiress with a hot body? Or did I invent a product that ensured I would never have to work again? Maybe I have a rich spouse and we are currently sky diving over the Hilton Maldives? Am I 18 or am I 98? Does any of it really matter Rizzob? I wouldn't have continued but you wanted to keep it going.

So... um... ya single? Cause I think you love me and I can respect that.

Remember- you were the one who showed their bitch first. Don't be so mean and I won't become your obsession. I wouldn't call it an attempt if I am successful.

You truly are funny...in your mind. Sadly for you, I already know the extent of your little income. You've posted enough complaints about money and your lack of it. Even to the point of crying about your mom loosing her retirement. There was a point that I would have felt sorry for you but you seem to have enough pity for yourself so no more is needed from me.

I'll give you a public open invitation to come visit me here in Switzerland. From my home in Lausanne we'll go to my chalet in the Jura mountains. If you wish we can also go to my apartment in Paris for a weekend. I'll even go so far as to pay for your flight and all transportation costs here. If you don't have a passport I'll even pay for that. Just bring all the receipts with you and I'll place the money in your hands. At that point maybe you'll be able to figure out that, unlike you and the nonsense you write, I have a good life. I don't feel the need to prove myself at all but it would be funny to see the look on your face.

As for being single, I am. My wife was killed a number of years ago by a drunk driver. I've never found anyone that could fill my life as she did and still does in my memories. People, you included, should only be as lucky as I was in finding someone as wonderful as she. A fantastic wife, partner, mother, and grandmother.

I think that you have misunderstood what I commented on to you in the beginning. I stated that I wasn't directing my comments to you but for some reason you seemed to think I did. I also stated that I was amused by what you said. If anyone has an obsession I'm guessing it's you. That's okay. I know a few gay people and your lifestyle doesn't bother me in the least. I'm actually a bit flattered.

LMFAO YOU are PATHETIC. Thank you though for reading my life? :) I am glad that you get as much pleasure imagining how horrible and sad my life is, as maybe I do when i think about your wife. :) Does that feel good? Would you like to continue getting personal?

You still know nothing about me. So what- WAMU/Chase screwed my mom. So? Money problems? No, I'm doing alright thank you. There is a difference between being fed up with the regular guy (me) and the system screwing them. It was not I who was bragging about this and or that. And I can google a map of Switzerland or ask the guys down at my local ski shop too. Anyway my point was- I am not impressed. You should also have gathered that i do not often find that MONEY and CHARACTER share the same place. I am happy with who I am and don't feel the need to fabricate lies to make myself "look better."

For all the "blessings you have in life", you spend far too much time trying to convince me and people who have stopped following this conversation about how great you are. And your last, "grandfatherly, educated, well traveled" remark at the end was great. I'm not a gay man, thanks. I'm all woman! And because you have proven to truly be a nut job beyond a shadow of a doubt, I will be blocking you.

Anyway, good luck coercing someone to keep your bed warm with empty promises of trips and luxury! Oh and you should have the heart meds around for when you read this gramps. It's been seen how seriously you take your blogs. lmao

Apparently minks are raised on farms and tortured - not trapped from the wild or skinned of an animal that is already going to be eaten (or dead anyway) Not all fur comes from the same type sources. I've seen the PETA videos, and I've seen what my neighbor who tans hides does - and it is 2 differnt things. I don't think most people realize how harmful plastic is to the environment or how important the environment is to the animals.

Hooray for you, Alaskan!! How better to honor an animal that has long since died than to continuing using its pelt to keep warm. It is not to say you should go out and buy a brand new one, but just to use what already is.

There is a form of unsettling hypocrisy in much of this. Sheep are slaughtered for food. Why not use their pelts to keep warm? Deer are hunted for food (and of course, for sport). Why not use their pelts to keep warm? Cattle are slaughtered for food. Why not use their skins as well? This is certainly more ecologically sound than dumping their skins to rot along with their entrails. And this dishonors the animal as well.

For those who prefer pillows, comforters and coats and jackets filled with down for warmth and comfort, consider that there are a limited number of down feathers located on geese or ducks. The geese (and often ducks) have their down feathers, which are located primarily beneath their wings, ripped out of them while still alive. You cannot honestly believe that these feathers only come from birds which have already been slaughtered for food. Consider the down products already on the market. If this WERE so, there wouldn't be a goose or duck left anywhere in the world.

Not all non-leather and non-fur clothing/items are animal-based. There's cotton, hemp, silk, wool (sheared from sheep and others)..... I don't wear polyester/plastic either.

Yeah it would be.

If you are interested in just doom, gloom, politics and war- go to the appropriate articles. There is more to life than just the end of the world.

Don't know about where you come from tzia. But out where I live we wash things when they get dirty. Then we can use them again, just like when they were new.

They won't necessarily poop on the furs either. Animals do things in separate areas. Put a food bowl and litter box too close, and a cat won't eat, or will go someplace else to defecate.

Neat idea - but I'm surprise animals will cuddle up in any type of fur - if they smell the fur and it's that of one of their natural predators. I wonder if they would be equally interested in a faux fur bed too. I guess as long as its warm...

Dry cleaner's don't clean furs. You can't use dry cleaning chemicals on fur. They send them to a furrier.