Gov. Rick Perry signed an order Friday making Texas the first state to require that all schoolgirls be vaccinated against the sexually transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer.
Texas governor orders STD vaccine for all girls
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Excuse me...is this "politician" a Doctor? Who the HELL is he to order any medical treatment for any person? Every human being is different and this idea that one treatment fits all or is even necessary for all is insane. A medication that may help one person may kill another. If people cannot see this for what it really is, an attack on our rights as parents and on our daughters' bodies, I cannot imagine what else will.
I wish this vaccine had been around when my children were young. One of them has this condition. She has already lost chunks of her cervix and may not be able to carry a child to term. Granted it probably should not be a law but the people complaining the most are the ones that will complain even more when their children develop this.
Mary, I am sorry about your child, but the entire core of this argument is not a situational one, but a philisophical one. Do we own ourselves as individuals or not?
The vaccine is freely available to any who choose, and parents have the right to make those decisions for their children. To have no decision at the point of a gun is a whole different matter.
I am betting Marys last name is Perry.
"The federal government approved Gardasil in June, and a government advisory panel has recommended that all girls get the shots at 11 and 12, before they are likely to be sexually active."
I'm no doctor, but I think that anyone who wasn't an anti-vaccine fanatic (and there are a lot of them) would understand that to mean that mandating Gardasil for young girls is probably a good idea. Every medication, with very few exceptions, has some rather extreme side effects. Chemotherapy is highly poisonous, but it saves lives every year. At some point, we have to make sensible decisions about whether any given medicine is worth its inherent risks, and there are many. If, for example, a medicine will kill or disable 100 at-risk people a year but will save the lives of 10,000 in that same year, that's a good deal. It sucks if you're a friend or relative of one of the 100, but it's priceless to the 10,000.
And in this case, you don't have to have your daughter take the vaccine if you don't want to.
People have a right NOT to have something THEY DON'T WANT to be put in to their own body. We have other means of protecting ourselves from STDs. Things like educating our kids, condoms, and abstinence. This ruling is unconstitutional and only serves the socialist and communist ideals that have become a cancer to on society.
I fully agree that EDUCATION IS THE KEY!!!
This is not about protecting children. This is about the government replacing parents in child rearing. We need to fight this with everything we have.
"At some point, we have to make sensible decisions about whether any given medicine is worth its inherent risks, and there are many. If, for example, a medicine will kill or disable 100 at-risk people a year but will save the lives of 10,000 in that same year, that's a good deal. It sucks if you're a friend or relative of one of the 100, but it's priceless to the 10,000."~ BJTurk
maybe 100 in 10,000 are good odds for playing a lotto game...not for my children's lives. Have you even read what this drug can do to girls? Many are losing the chance to have children before they can ever get a chance to start having children. I would take my chances with the cervical cancer any day! Let's see getting a disease on my own or having one given to me when I may have never gotten it??? Not a hard choice here!
This article was last updated 2/3/2007 1:00:35 PM ET
That means this has been happening for 4 years and no one has died and the instance of teen pregnancy has not gone up or down in Texas. That means all you fear mongering religious types are completely wrong.
As a former high school teenager who was taught abstinence I will tell all of you with your heads in the sand, that the only thing that actually curbs teen pregnancy and STDs is condoms and birth control.
Soooo, Perry signs bill, which undoubtedly leads to campaign funding, then immediately enters presidential race. That's not crroked in any sense of the word, is it now?
Besides this blatant and unveiled pandering to a lobbyist, I strongly oppose this action for another reason: the vaccine hasn't been out long enough for a discerning parent to get reports on true long-term effects. We aren't going to see these begin to surface for possibly another decade. This particular vaccine is not in the same category as the big ones that are accepted as mandatory: Polio, MMR, etc. Parents, especially in this early age of product adoption should have a choice!!
@ Randy-2190191,
"McGettrick said "it's a non-issue for us, because the HPV vaccine was never added to the state's list of required immunizations once lawmakers froze the order until the starting date of the 2011 regular legislative session." www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2736814/posts
Which is pointing out that the vaccine never made it to school grounds because the Senate had enough sense to rebuke it in a HB not long after Perry mandated it. Therefore, you cannot know if girls had serious health consequences from it because they weren't vaccinated.
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Please become informed. This just steams me. Now they are marketing this to boys. H*ll will freeze over before my children receive this vaccine. In a nutshell, the incidence of serious side effects - seizure disorder, Lou Gehrigs disease and more - is HIGHER than the incidence of all untreatable cervical cancer. And for 9 to 12 year old girls!
Bravo Jennifer! I completely agree with you! I am a nurse and it IS dangerous!
Lou Ghearigs disease, or ALS is extremely rare in the general population, so can you cite at least 3 series studies where this has been proved. Nothing curbs teenage sex, nothing, and I went to high school during the abstinence only Bush years, teen pregnancy actually went up by comparison to when I was in middle school and they gave us condoms. You have both annecdotal and statistical evidence that proves abistinence only education is completely inneffective, yet you continue to live with your head in the sand. Grow up.
BTW the article is dated 2007
Maybe I am not allowed to post a link here. Try the truthaboutgarasil dot com.
or this article from CBS news dot com from august 19 2009 Gardasil researcher speaks out.
Thank you for the link! Although I didn't find anything much on that page, I found a link to another one that had some interesting info about Gardasil, HPV, and cervical cancer that I did not know.
I hate that people make this a religious issue. It's a vaccine to prevent cervical cancer, which is not exactly commonly thought of as an STD. I reeeaaally don't think it will promote promiscuity. Seriously. That's crazy. I'm a conservative Christian and I think it should be evaluated based on the actual need (cancer prevention) vs side effects. The most upsetting thing about all of this is the company's greed and the FDA's willing cooperation in fast-tracking the vaccine (and lots of other drugs on the market - shame on the FDA!). The FDA needs to do it's job and protect American citizens again, and if this vaccine is going to be required, Merck should be required to lower it's price.
It is a religious issue for many of us because they use dead babies to grow a lot of the vaccines. ABT or Aborted Fetal Tissue is present in many vaccines. You realize some vaccines you can't have if you are allergic to eggs because they are grown in eggs, right? That's because there are trace amounts of eggs still in the vaccines. Same for ABT (dead babies).. sorry, NO DEAD BABIES INJECTED INTO MY BABIES! That is why it is religious.. VERY *unclean* :(
ConcernedMomma8, do you have any evidence or a single study to prove any of the bull@!$%# you just said. I didn't think so. Vaccines are made from dead bacteria, not dead baby. God does not suffer fools, so why don't you go on the google and find yourself a clue. BTW it would help if the info came from wikipedia or a medical journal, and not a college of medicine endorsed by Pat Robertson, or any religious organization. You know, real science.
Maybe you are the Moron Randy. Look it up, there is aborted fetal tissue in many vaccines not to mention numerous other toxins. People that do not vacciante make that choice for a reason. I am not against the idea of vaccinations. I am against the toxic waste that is put into them. If someone can come up with vaccinations that don't contain toxic waste then I would be on board with that. I have my own kids to get to and do not have the time to look it up for you but obviously you own a computer. Look up the ingredients in some vaccines, from websites other than the makers of these wonderful shots.
Thanks for the information, Jennifer.(it's actually Aug. 29, 2009 but was easy enough to find.) It's very upsetting to hear that little girls are going to be made to get a vaccine that only lasts up to five years and may cause death. It's not being mandated here yet, but, after reading the article, I wouldn't force my little girl to have it either.
First, parents are allowed to opt out, so nobody's little girl will "be made to get a vaccine." Second, with very few exceptions, every medicine has serious side effects. Most prescription medications list death among their side effects. If, on your behalf, your parents had kept from you every medication that did not, you might be limited to simethicone, which helps with gas, but you would probably have died long ago...
Sorry this is such a late reply. After I realized the article was so dated, I let it go. Okay, I see where it says parents can opt out, but as a "requirement" who knows where it could lead to as these things seem to pick up speed as they start rolling. Which is kind of like what you did when you pointed out that most medications list death as a side effect and we should all be happy we've had them or we could be dead by now... The possibility of getting a life threatening illness such as H. Influenza B for an 11 or 12 year seems to warrant getting the Hib vaccine. Whereas the possibility of my 11 or 12 year old getting genital warts that turn into cervical cancer within five years seems minimal in my common sense opinion. Therefore, I'm glad I had my vaccinations and didn't die, but putting my daughter at risk for death for this vaccine seems silly.
This article was last updated 2/3/2007 1:00:35 PM ET
Good to see it's still raining crazy in America, all these idiotic comments over an 4 year old article.
Jennifer, thanks for the information. (it's actually Aug. 29, 2009 but it was easy enough to find.) It's very upsetting to learn that little girls are going to be made to get a vaccine that may only last up to five years and can cause death. If I were in Texas- my little girl wouldn't be forced to have it, period.
This sounds like a good gift from the state of Texas.
I find it appalling that this Gov. feels that it is ok to dictate to parents what STD vaccines they must give their young children. His "ties" to the pharmaceutical company is the obvious motivator, not the well being of the children that reside in this state. Where is the "freedom" for parent's to make decisions concerning their children? Are Texans happy with this guy? I can't see how they could be. He has just taken away a parent's rights on how they want to raise their children and what medical services they feel is right for their kids.
This is another example of the Corporate America and the GOP party whittling away our rights in America, all in the name of greed! Wake up folks and stop the nonsense now! This is the true face of SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM in America....
Outragious, I readily agree with your thoughts on the Governor's wanted mandate being appalling, and that loss of rights and greed appear to be a factor. Still, I don't believe that, that's the face of Socialism/Communism.
Yeah, and the vaccine may even cause cases of zombification in .01% of the population, leading to an inevitable Z-day apocalypse. Better start stockpiling food and ammo.
I have 3 girls and have been discussing this shot with our pediatrician. Although our oldest is 13, he agrees that we are fine to wait to see effects of the drug prior to giving it to them. The problem is that the drug doesn't prevent all types of cervical cancer....and the advertising is very misleading. I don't live in Texas and would be in the Governor's office immediately protesting this intrusion of government. Unlike Measles, this is not a disease that is highly contagious from airborne methods.
My wife had a doctor treat my wife like she was a negligent parent for not giving our daughter the shot (now 14). Needless to say, we don't go to that doctor anymore.
What it boils down to is do we own ourselves or not?
What is truly frightening is the thought that if we parents opt out, not only will we be seen as neglectful, but the gov't can intervene, call out Child Services, take our children away and force the vaccine on them while in custody. If our children afterwards suffer adverse effects or even die, the gov't is practically immune to prosecution. It's a lose-lose situation for us.
We must fight and stop rolling over to government nannyism and totalitarianism. We must stop seeing these "democrat" and "republican" labels and see things for what they really are: members from both parties are all the same. We need to stop the status quo, vote for individuals based on their actions and ethics, and take our country back!
Z-day is coming!
You guys who are worried about this are all crazy. The government loves us. They only want what is best for us. The only reason the governor had to bypass our common law and everything that makes us free is because he loves us so much he just can't sleep at night knowing that little girls are going unvaccinated.
It doesn't matter that the people don't want it. Whatever the government and the loving governor says is what the people should do and want.
That's what America is built on : politicians deciding what is good for Americans then forcing us all to do it. That's what the founding fathers and everything America stands for was built on.
Thank you Doctor Perry for giving us your loving wonder shot. I used to have some doubts about whether you guys cared about us but now I know for sure that you love us dearly. Thank God we do not have to make another decision about our kids by ourselves.
Extreme sarcasm, or absolute insanity?!
But, the shot has the potential to cause Zombificaition in .01% of the population, which will then spread rapidly. Didn't you watch I am Legend? The end is nigh! We must save our children from the Zombie threat. Better start building up your cardio!
Perry better not even waste his time trying to run for President. This is the nail in that coffin.
Amen! And here I was just getting interested in his possible run for Prez. No longer interested in a thing he has to say. The progressive, nanny-state, non-Constitutionalist has just told us all who he really is. No need to even watch his lips move anymore.
Dear Lord, please deliver us from the evils of the cervical cancer vaccine-ah, and ah all the sin it will cause our young sons and daughters to partake in, and ah bring the day of reckoning our enemies-ah and send all the non-believers to hell......ah And ah Lord please provide us with a holy bounty of food, clean white neighbors, and all the ammunition we can stockpile.
Why is it the religious right sounds just like the Taliban?
What is the media trying to do--kill girls just to get at Rick Perry? I am not a fan of Gov Perry, but every medical professional knows this is the proper course, and lobbying is a non-issue!
Hey, "medical professional" aka drug pushing western medicine FRAUD, GET OUT OF MY LIFE. I DONT WANT YOU OR YOUR FRIGGING OPINIONS. Go back to pushing drugs. I dont want them.
It's a sad day in America when the nuts outweigh the sane people. The religious right sounds just like the Taliban, they never want to hear any opposing view to their own short sighted religious hypocracy
Politicians and lobbyist making profits off of unproven studies at the expense of our girls now, what a joke. Make sure you mention the legal waivers, the side effects and studies in Europe that were done. Why doesn't the medical profession stick to fixing one problem first maybe breast cancer would be a good start since the rolling in the dough now and taking peoples money and been making promises for 60 years. Let's talk about the vaccines that didn't work that would be a good news story.
They found a cure for leukemia, a modified HIV virus that targets only cancer cells, but not a single pharma company wants to fund it. It was on MSNBC just last week. There is no profit to a cure.
I'm not sure why this is being posted at this time. If you'll read the article, you'll see this was to have gone into effect in 2008! It was a bad move but one that was rescinded before it ever took effect. I have to think this story's being spread around at this particular time is entirely political.
The vaccine only offers partial protection from this disease. Forcing the vaccine on every girl will provide a false sense of security. Also, it is a relatively new vaccine, and there are already many reports of side effects, including death. This is a familly decision. The STD in this story is what happens when politicians like Rick Perry get into bed with big pharma. I'll parent my daughter myself, thank you very much!
Of course in 10 to 12 years we will find one of it's "side effects" are to cause sterility in women.
didn't even take that long to cause it...already happening
Somehow I don't think that someone with SavedbyHisGrace, is going to have an fact filled and educated opinion on the subject.......I think you just making @!$%# up.
It is amazing what a politician will do for political donations. This is another example of the corruption of Republicans. Aren't they the ones who complain so much about an oppressive government? How many times has Perry whined about the government mandating people to do this or that?
What is more oppressive than a government forcing citizens to submit their daughters for medical treatments without parents having any say in the matter. My fellow Texans are so stupid for voting in this clown.
Puh-leeze. Republicans? How about ALL POLITICIANS? When are you morons going to learn? There is no left/right, there is POLITICAL DOMINATION, they both do it, like the demoncats wanted to do SB 510 and basically outlaw non commercial farming.
And your rat vermin oligarchical collectivists friend of the banking cabal NWO globalist loving Obama is forcing a deathcare system on the USA, talk about FORCE, nationalizing a 6th of the economy.
What a bloody hypocrite.
This idiot just killed my vote for president if he ever runs. THE STATE CANNOT COMPEL BEHAVIOR. This is a communist / socialist / oligarchical collectivists / police state / authoritarian / totalitarian concept.
GOVERNMENT, GET OUT OF MY LIFE, GOVERNMENT, YOU ARE EVIL, PURE EVIL. NOBODY WANTS YOU.
So you don't want Social Security benefits? How about a military and police force to protect you? How bout that department that comes and puts out a fire at your house? How about those building they keep all the murderers, rapists and thieves in, those prisons? How about those national parks you probably want to bulldoze to make room for oil drilling that you personally will never see a dime from, how about the bank you keep your money in that is backed by FDIC, or the money you spend that is backed by the Government you want out of your life so badly? Those "roads" you drive on to get around town wouldn't be hear without that government that pisses you off so much, that interstate highway systems that allows goods to travel at what was unheard of speeds 100 years ago, to your home and local businesses was built by the federal government. Then there is that clean water you drink that was federally mandated to be safe standard. How about the nuclear power plant built on govt. subsidies and research that provides electrcity to your home. What about all the modern conveniences that are products of govt research during WW2, the cold war and the space race? Velco, Computers, Nuclear Energy, Microwaves, Solar Cells, High Speed telecommunication equipment, oh and last but not least the frigging Internet was invented by a govt agency called DARPA
It's easy to get the govt. out of your life, just move to a deserted island, see how long you last on your own.
Calm down everyone. Look at the date of this article: 2007
Damn, it is an old article, so this has been going on for 3 years then?
HPV is caused by males. People do not research these thing correctly. But of course the good portion of Americans put these ignorant people in office an do not hold them accountable for nothing. Then they blame everyone else. Tell me what right does the government ( the one that has consistently lied to us) this is beneficial to my kids?
The same thing happen before people were diagnosed ADHD they were kids with issues and gave them Ritalin (which has a huge side effect being diagnosed bi-polar). So tell me why should I have to vaccinate my child? I am not saying this may not help, but what are the long term side effects? No one knows.
This boils down to one thing GREED. If you do not think it is look at who got the contract for the immunization.
I thought Republicans didn't believe in mandating health care? Even though this could prevent many thousands of very expensive cancers (my treatments have cost over $100,000 twice) there are other competing products. This should be an open market kind of decision where insurance companies seeing the future savings promote this as preventative care. The vendor (i.e. Merck) should not be legislated as that prevents competition and leads to higher prices.
More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPV_vaccine
I'd say a $6,000 price to buy a Texas governor for a probable return in excess of $900,000,000 (based on 2010 census estimates) in that state is a darned shrewd investment by Merck.
Gov. Perry is inconsistent at best: He denies any sex education except for abstinence, because it worked “from my own personal life”. ( www.nytimes.com/2011/04/21/opinion/21collins.html?_r=2 ) But he demands the STD vaccine for all 11-12-years girls, who according to the logic of his order should start their sex life soon.
He already showed himself being ignorant about higher education by pushing onto TX universities controversial, politically-driven "7 solution" designed by TPPF, a politically driven think-tank led and supported by his campaign donors. ( see e.g. alliancefortamu.org ). In that saga, he put his buddies and campaign donors in charge of Texas education flagmen (UT & TAMU).
He is responsible for the crisis caused by decreased funding for the school education in TX. Among other things, he refused Federal funds for the school for political reasons (Google for the full story on that). news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110211/tr_ac/7835408_texas_gov_perry_democrats_figh
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Now, this ignorant and arrogant politician is messing up with the private health decisions. (Since when, messing with private choices became a republican value?) More over, this bill requires a lot of money from the public health budget, which is already strained. And all of it is to return favors to his donors.
Gov. Perry, it's time to leave! Either a democrat or republican who can think would be better than this corrupt and power-spoiled arrogant politician.
Where do I even begin?
1) No apparent side effects: Oh yeah? What are the long-term effects? This vaccine is too new for Merck to make any claims on its safety. Only once a large-scale longitudinal study has been carried out on women who have voluntarily taken it (i.e. follow them from age 12 to 80) and no negative effects found, then they can claim relative safety.
2) Women in Government: Here is an organization that has the unique position and opportunity to really help women. Instead, they are lured by the dollar bills dangled in front of their noses. Looks like money and GREED win again!
3) Perry: How on earth is this clown able to legally take away parents' constitutional rights to choose what's best for their children? And where does he get off mandating that women must put these toxic chemicals in their bodies. This guy sounds like a total fascist dictator!
Bottom line: Money rules the world and that has got to change ASAP!
This is my favorite part of the article...
Most insurance companies now cover the vaccine, which has been shown to have no serious side effects.
http://www.naturalnews.com/023419_Gardasil_cervical_cancer_girls.html
Weird... I didn't know death wasn't considered an serious side effect.
I live in IL, and if this crap ever comes here I'd sooner pay THOUSANDS of dollars for private school rather than inject my daughter with this poison.
I hope that Texans realize when these deaths occur, right next to the 100M dollar wrongful death suit, you'll see Merck, and STATE OF TEXAS.
BJTurk,
You're missing the point - the point is the precedent that this governor has set. That precedent is robbing a parent of an individual choice and putting a huge amount of money in a drug corporation's pocket at the expense of American individual liberties. While it's not socialism or communism, it's not American. And frankly, it reeks of similar actions made by democrats in the recent past. And before you write once again that a parent can object by affidavit, the point is that they shouldn't have to object. Where in the world did checks and balances go? Executive orders should not exist unless needed temporarily for instances of disaster.
Yes, they should not have to object, some parents do not know they have a choice to object...sure sure it's their fault, whatever, Things should be clearly explained not "You must get the vaccine" in bold print then in the tiniest print it says you may object, or not even that let's just tell them they have to, and then leave the part about how they can object in the law write up itself "cause they will never look there." muuuuwwwwahhhhahahahaha