Happy people may live longer, but more importantly, they make us glad they stick around longer.

Grumpy people seem to hate life...no wonder life doesn't seem to want them either.

Grumpy people always want me to cheer them up. My sister said on her deathbed, "She always made me laugh". Wish she'd laughed more. Anyway, when you are around grumpy people do you notice that they are usually so preoccupied with themselves they do not see or hear what is going on around them? How they kind of hold court and spew all the negative events they've suffered? What do happy people do? They usually have something fun to talk about and some funny to crack.

Ah, I think MSNBC, you've had this aritcle before for us to discuss?

Don't Worry, Be Happy.

I like grumpy people. They are most interesting, because they see the world as real. Phony Happy people are just that, shallow inside and out.

Phony is as phony does. All my friends are REAL (no, not all of them grumpy) they are "grounded" facing the truth about life---that brings a better closeness to share in our lives whether good or bad things happen, we console and support one another.

Right now in these times, there are very few happy people who can't work to pay for their families, college, and food. Tell them that. You will get slapped in the face for being a phony.

Phony happy people are most likely as you describe, Hawaii2, but genuine happy people do exist and they try very hard to cheer up grumpy people. It takes practice to make a habit and if you practice hard enough and long enough it becomes second nature. I find my happiness is a great asset in helping grumpy and unhappy people feel a bit of cheer.

js--445607:

You are correct.

We are a genuinely happy family---some of it is genetic make up, and a lot of it is the environment one chooses to live in. Upbeat and positive.

Appreciation for having good health, many friends, close family is a first priority.

For many Material goods make them happy. I have found out through experience that one cannot "hug a vase", or any other material products bought.

Does a new fancy auto make people happy? Absolutely not, unless their life is "put" together. Folks, start there, first.

It works. Smile--- and make yourself Happy as the song goes, sung by Nat King Cole, Michael Jackson, and then Jermaine Jackson---it will lift your spirits..

Hilarious, from a Laughing Heart, and I don't even smoke..However, some of these jokes crack me up...ahhh hahahahha..

Hawaii2, This is how I feel. I have an edge however as I have worked with thousands of children for many years and if they cannot turn you into a joyous and happy person no one can. I came out of the womb wanting to play.

Materialism is difficult and many do think they must reach a certain degree of consumerism to feel complete but they really aren't all that happy as someone always has more. And then there is entitlement and sometimes this makes people unhappy.

I have a wonderfully loving family and we decided (after declaring this was a statement regarding my grandpuppy ) we are pea brained pals, happy about nothing.

Js:

We are similar in that we have the same core beliefs regarding happiness. Fortunately, I've lived both lives. Family came out as the majority of my core of happiness. All our family, and extended family and friends..

Yes, children. What joy!!! We have children in the family, they are a wonder, living an honest life, speaking the truth. How refreshing. I also worked with many children with learning disabilities in a Specialized Clinic for them. What a joy to see children develop because of your influence on them. Children are like flowers. The more you put into them, the more growth. It was very challenging and very self-satisfying to see the progress they made.

Dogs? Me, the dog LOVER. 2 over a period of 29 years!!!---they both were the boss of the house. We loved it!---yes, when loving a special pet, we all become "goofy and nuts". It is called LOVE.

Enjoy your grandpuppy. Your child, right?---

Great Discussion; Happiness. Most people can't find joy from the SMALL things in life---

That's where true happiness lies.

Hawaii2, The grandpuppy was a 7# Schnauzer...I do have three human grandchildren however and they are quite lovely.

I have worked with many children with special needs and their teachers often called me the child-whisperer as if one became distraught they might call my name or the teacher would call me to come soothe the savage beast within the child. I seemed to be able to pull the distress away from them so they could get back to being in control. All children are a miracle; they are warm and sassy, enthusiastic and curious, trusting and adoring. Who could ever not want to engage in this piece of reality?

It is so sweet to meet up with you on Newsvine. Mahalo

js:

We have much in common. Yikes, we are supposed to stay on subject!

Happiness. I am very happy to come across you on Newsvine. You sound like a very nice light heart, young hearted person. I am the same!----

Yes, we have many children in our family. They are the Kings and Queens of our life. Treated in this manner, also. They are very special, as all children are. All children are "my" children. Kids and pets. Honest, loyal, friendly, and never tell secrets! They tell the truth which "cracks" us up. Our animals did not have many grumpy days. They were put on a pedestal also.

Yes, special needs kids need a very nuturing, loving person whom they can trust to bring them into a new life of curiosity, kindness, another way of looking at academics, and doing well in them. Some of them come from homes which are not sustaining, so others have to give of themselves. As Hillary Clinton said, "It takes a Village to Raise a Child"; true in some cases.

Have a good evening. Hope to see you on this discussion board again.

Mahalo, and I bid you Adieu! Muchos Gracias.

Hawaii2 Hope to see you on this discussion board again.

This is my hope also.

I've heard grumpy people live longer?

They are feisty and ready to take on the challenge of an illness. Their toughness may give them this advantage.

My mother's side of the family sported the grumpiest clan ever and although my grumpy mother died at age 50 the oldest sibling lived past 95. My grandmother on that side was reaching 90 and she was extremely grumpy. I didn't get the grumpy gene, but all three of my siblings were grumpy and often mean-spirited. So, in conclusion maybe grumpy/feisty works as well as happy/sassy. We will have to investigate this thought.

I too am depressed and sometimes I can only be awake for a few hours before I go to sleep again. I only feel normal when I'm asleep!

Debbie-874234 & Sunshine-731852 Depression is very tricky and I found out a long time ago I could break the cycle of depression with meditation. When you try to get outside of yourself through meditation you begin seeing life differently. Begin to reinvent yourself also, visualize yourself as vibrant, energized and joyous. With practice you'll be able to live this. I've been on anti-depressants and they helped also but the meditation was the best and most soothing. After all you said all you want to do is sleep, just make this sleep work for you in a productive manner. My heart goes out to you both.

Debbie & Sunshine:

Keep the faith. It is a dark period in your life, maybe cyclical. It would be wise to try and get help. It will lift your spirits to find out what is causing the Depression.

Depression in some ways is good. Yes, good. You see things as they really are. No veil over reality.

Reach out to other people. Do things for others. This will make you forget about yourself and your problems. There are so many wonderful people who would love to give you joy. Just let them come into your life.

Happiness is not a constant.

It is an emotion that comes and goes. No one can be happy all the time. Enjoy the small things in life, and be thankful every morning you wake up that you are healthy and alive.

Happiness is elusive. Some can find it, and others don't know when they are happy.

My regards to you. People do care. Stay with positive people. Get the negative people out of your life. You can choose. It is YOUR life.

Take care. I will be thinking about you. It is a chore to live each day. Push yourself. There will be a light at the end of the tunnel.

Please take the first step. Reach out--

Debbie and Sunshine

I'm in a pretty bad funk these days also. I am sleeping more than I should. But I am also trying to get out more. Join a club, go hiking, anything to get outside. You can find many groups in your area on meetup.com. It really does help. You need to be proactive in getting out of your depression. I wouldn't say I'm happy, but I'm definitely less sad than if I were to just hide in my bed all day. Cheers.

Woz2000, I'm so happy you; Sunshine and Debbie expressed yourselves on this seed. There are many that are depressed and hard pressed to figure out how to end the cycle. It has been a long time since I felt depressed but I remember how it was and how hard it was for me to bring myself up. Meditation did wonders but
another aspect worked even better to get me on my way. I began tracking every thought that popped into my head. If it was a negative thought I made myself turn it around and examined the thought and tracked where it came from. I think that some depression comes from not being able or not thinking about matters that nag you and may come from neglecting to examine them closely. I figured I had nothing to lose since I was in a funk anyway and the results were a miracle. I remained happy through my depressions but I wanted to break away from them if possible, and I did.

Debbie and Sunshine:

Have you both checked out the sleeping Disorder Sleep Apnea? This could the reason for never getting enough sleep, causing depression.

Look into it. One needs to go to a Sleep Clinic or Neurologist.

Good luck.

I have thought about this. Good advice and thanks to all who responded to us with depression. It cheered me up immensely.

The happies are the best feeling in life. I get up happy go to bed happy. Whenever anything irritates me I try to turn it into something funny as soon as possible. I'll bet you are pretty darn popular, sweaver209, because I know we'd have a good time even in a grumpy convention.

Constantly happy people make me sick.

Pete...only you have the power to make you sick. So, if you feel sick when you are around happy people, the safest thing you can do for yourself is to cover your eyes until you can get away from them. Then when you are a safe distance away from anyone happy, you can relax and enjoy being unhappy. Good luck with that.

inga-386315, Good advice. We would not want any grumpy people to be turned off by our happiness.

Crying alone is not bad due to the orifices leaking, but that happens when we laugh too. I think I have happy cried much more than sad cry, which is good.

Aw, Pete.

Faking happiness might be a challenge but thinking about happy aspects of life can never hurt. Sure, we all have our ups and downs but in no way can we ever say we have it worse than others. That in itself should make you happy.

Holy sh()t.

got news for ya, you'll never be happy.

I have found if you smile at a grumpy they cannot but help smile back. Maybe their smile is a bit rusty but it is a semblance of a smile so who's griping?

Shades of Rodney Dangerfield.

Orgasm is just another word for happiness.I'm sorry you have to fake it, Laos.

Laos Deo "What about faking an orgasm?"

And, why would anyone need to do that?

Patsy-1003110, I believe happiness is directly related to wellbeing. I believe happiness brings us enough joy that when blindsided by an illness we can still keep our spirits up and not succumb to depression, disillusion, self-pity and loss of hope. Perhaps happiness heals faster and if it does who would knock this?

Susan-1171841, I feel for you and being around angry people is a true disadvantage. Most of the very ill I know are the type to get angry and disillusioned very easily. I know from living with a couple of very angry people that they torture themselves for no apparent reason and cannot grasp the benefits of being positive and having a joyful outlook on life.

John the Savage, Nobody wants you to do anything you don't want to do. I wonder a lot about the many suggestions concerning health and everything else on the planet. I'm a happy person, can I fake grumpy? Not convincingly only in a way others would laugh at but that's not bad. Can you fake happy? Probably and maybe convincingly but if you don't want to you don't have to.