It took lawmakers a year to shape President Barack Obama's health care bill. If it finally passes Congress, it'll take the better part of a decade to write the user manual for consumers and doctors, employers and insurance companies.
Health care 101: Consumer guide to reform bill
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How to be a Dictatorship 101.
If the bill passes, they will have buried themselves in the coffin the made for themselves.
The signing of the bill will be the nails in their governing coffin.
We do not want this bill!
Got any meaningful details to explain that, Kerry? I'm all ears.
We want this bill!
...I think when Jack sez 'we'..
..he means him, Moe, Larry & Curly...
The bill does a lot more good than harm. It addresses the biggest problems with health care in the USA--unaffordable premiums, lapses in coverage, denial of coverage due to preexisting conditions, etc.
Get it passed.
Rush Limbaugh said he'd leave the country if it passes, so there's that benefit too :-)
Boy that sure was NOT a "hardy endorsement" in the least...
I love how they claim "THE BILL" WILL PUMP 5 BILLION INTO..BLAH BLAH
AH..Explain to me how you "PUMP" something from NOTHING.....?
46 out of 50 states broke and Unemployment out of control and getting worse by the day.
YET plenty of "Magic Money" being "PUMPED" around....
The definition of trickle up poverty, in the article.
No mention of the missing "doctor fix".
No mention of the double counting of the Medicare "savings".
Kill it. Start over.
Get rid of the money grubbing health-insurance that operate on different cylinders. Pay out of pocket, stop the hospitals from charging outrages fees. A hundred dollars for a pill, Two thousand a night stays, A hundred for a bed pan, etc-etc. This is why we can not fix this corrupt system..
want to fix healthcare? start by getting all the freeloading illgals out of the country.....that will drop mrdical costs like you've never thought possible. Hospitals close to, if not billions each yaer, because of illegals who dont have insurance. they say 30 million will be the # of the sign up? Hmmmm wonder how many illegals they are counting, that is going into this number? Next i think all states by now, have their own healthcare reform going for those laid off, out of work, and no bennies, not to metion the free bennies already going to the fatherless kid's mothers, and theit little packs of rodents. This is just a simple way of saying bye bye to your retirement is all it is. GIVE the gov $ to set aside for my retirment out of this bill? You must think im f^&*ing nuts!
The bill does nothing to control cost of care. Medicare will go broke in paying for "futile" care for seniors in their last months of life. Millions are spent on almost every senior in their last months of life in our "fee based" system that attempts to keep seniors with terminal conditions alive as long as medicare pays. It is too profitable to the physicians and hospitals.
"For example, a family of four making $44,000 would pay $2,763 in premiums —about 6 percent of its income— for a policy worth $9,435.
But a similar family making $66,000 would have to pay $6,257 in premiums, close to 10 percent of its income. That may be less than a mortgage, but it's more than a car payment."
Why the disparity? It's the same policy, is it not?
I wonder if that's BRONZE Level, SILVER Level, GOLD Level or PLATINUM Level coverages they are talking about.
Because the poorer family has a tougher time getting health coverage for their kids than the more well-off family.
Carl W, 'Because...blah...blah...blah"
You did not even answer the question as to why the family making $66k/year is paying more of their income then the family making 44K/year. The example was taken from the article as to what happens if the bill is passed.
So, the more ya make, the more they take...yeah, that will encourage innovation and self-reliance...opps, those are evil words according to dems...
Carl, read the freakin' article you are opining on.
It's called trickle up poverty, and its been happening for decades, wherein someone who makes MORE money actually has LESS spending power, because they make too much for the government tit programs they're forced to pay for via confiscatory taxation. People making LESS get many of their needs met by the government, and/or pay significantly less or NO income tax at all.
It absolutely removes any incentive whatsoever to work hard, because instead of being rewarded, you are punished for earning more. It's bullcrap.
It creates ever increasing income levels where subsidy becomes necessary, and it the absolute definition of a "statist" government - creeping dependence upon the government.
This must be stopped.
http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/
I'm an NOT a fan of this guy, but conveniently located on this page is a list of the 30 swing votes in the House and their phone numbers. Call them. NOW.
Welcome to socialism. Pay the fine. It's cheaper, and hospitals will still be mandated to treat everybody.
Weath redistrobution at its finest with increased taxes on the upper middle class to pay for the tax credits.
A welcome change from the massive redistribution of wealth that's been going on for the last two decades from the middle class to the wealthy.
Dead-on Jack.
It's funny how conservatives are totally oblivious or indifferent to increasing income inequality, but if a bill gets passed that makes more people, especially poorer people, better off, they scream about "redistribution of wealthy"
I suppose redistribution is only a bad thing if it helps the poor. If it helps the rich, great, whatever.
How twisted.
...you mean I can be lazy, not have a job & the gov't will clothe, shelter and feed me..
...redistribution is bad when people expect something for nothing...
idiots
Why do you feel that the poor must be lazy and unemployed? My daughter works her tail off, has an education, takes care of two children and is involved in the community and yet barely makes it financially. She represents a segment of America who deserves to be able to live and prosper and not have all her money eaten up by healthcare costs (insurance, copays, deductibles). She struggles to provide AND pays her taxes. Being judgmental, angry and hateful towards those who are less fortunate is sadly typical of the R's and C's on this forum. We are known for our compassion for those less fortunate in other countries - what happened to compassion for our fellow Americans?
AC, if your daughter pays taxes, then she is - like millions and millions in the middle class - a victim of a liberal mentality that creates trickle up poverty. I've explained this twice already in this vine, if you're unfamiliar with the term.
Since when AC? Since when does your daughter (like mine) "deserve to be able to live and prosper" at the expense of someone else. I'm not questioning the human virtue of compassion and charity. I'm questioning it's implementation by a faceless, incompetent, power hungry government.
This isn't the way America was founded to work. And it (America) will be restored long before this bill's 10-year implementation is complete.
yes I know I had a spelling error
Nobody but nobody should have to pay a fine for not having health insurance, for whatever reason they do not have health insurance. Nobody but nobody should have to pay out more in insurance premium costs than they already do - and it seems, as usual, single people earning $55,000 + get hid hard. Nobody but nobody should be penalized for being able to afford a "cadillac" insurance plan. I am 51 years old, worked hard all my life to be able to buy an insurance policy that doesn't require authorizations from primary MD to go see anbody else, and I should not have to be taxed extra for finally reaching that goal in my life, nor should anybody else. The worst of it, none of this really would take effect until, at minimum 2013/2014!
I agree, Diane! I was appalled when compulsory coverage was included as a concession to Senate Republicans.
The thing is, hospitals are required to treat EVERYBODY with an emergency.
If everybody is required to be treated, why shouldn't we require everybody to pay for the system that treats them?
It's like being allowed to "opt out" of paying for emergency fire services (e.g. the fire department).
If a system has to treat everybody, then it makes sense for everybody to pay for coverage under that system.
If we can give hospitals the option not to treat people without coverage, then people should have the option not to buy at least catastrophic coverage. But then, we'd have people dying on the sidewalk, and even most conservatives wouldn't have the stomach for that kind of human misery.
As long as a system is expected to help everybody who needs help, then everybody at risk of needing help needs to pay into that system (in this case health care via insurance coverage)
Accountable Care Organizations-This is not as good as it seems. These organizations will hold onto patients even if they don't have the ability or staff to take care of the patient. It has happened to me and I have seen it happen to patients.
Insurance Companies-Since their lobbyists wrote this bill they have left plenty of loopholes in it here is an example: They will be required to spend 85% on patient care. All they will do is cut back on the preapproval staff. Almost everything that is done to an insured patient requires pre-authorization. This process is very costly to providers in time and labor. For the insurance company less staff=more profit. Less or delayed care = more profit. This will drive provider costs up and delay patient care.
I dont' quite understand your point on Accountable Care Oganizations: "These organizations will hold onto patients even if they do have the ability or staff to take care of the patient." I don't get that. What do you mean?
Another reason for Employers to remain at under 50 employees and/or reduce the workforce even further.
The tax break that employer's would receive for hiring the unemployed would seem minuscule and insignificant compared to the bill they could receive from the IRS. What's to stop the employer from discharging the employee who is getting the federal subsidy?
Good point, so now anyone looking for a job that is getting help will be automatically disqualified. How sad are these people?
Pass it and tweet it later. I am a military veteran of several theaters; proud to be an American, and I say to all of you politicians who Keep trying to blow smoke, up our you know whats; can kiss your rear- ends goodbye come the next major election season. I've made my list, and checking it often to remind me of who in office, is looking out for the best interest of America, or their own political (for the sake of not being vulgar) careers. I have a decent income and good if not very decent medical coverage, but unlike many of our so-called speaking for Americans, politicians, I would like to see my fellow Americans be medically protected throughout their lives. I, like many others, who stood in harms way; have put our lives on the line, to ensure the right to have a government that is more responsive to us than political ambitions. (Know this) I will personally campaign against you.
There will be a day of reckoning.
Fine for not buying into thier plan sounds like comunist crap.
If you arrive at the ER without health insurance do you get fined and throw out the door?Â
And exactly what reform bill are you referring to? The bill that won't be published until tomorrow? You must be clairvoyant, or biased???
"Once the exchanges open, most Americans would be required to carry health insurance or pay a fine."
When a driver stops carrying car insurance, the DMV suspends their registration and levies a fine. So what gets suspended if someone doesn't carry health insurance? I happen to be a supporter of change, however if this is going to be "mandatory" instead of "available to everyone", I really have my doubts about it.
Hello America,
The Fezzy Bear Edited Edition, March 15, 2010, don't worry I knew all of you would be to lazy to read it, never fear Fezzy bear is here.
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to affordability credits). AXES ON INDIVIDUALS NOT OBTAIN2
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Sec. 1701. Eligibility for individuals with income below 133
Federal poverty level.
Sec. 1702. Requirements and special rules for certain Medicaid eligible individuals.
Sec. 1703. CHIP and Medicaid maintenance of effort.
Sec. 1704. Reduction in Medicaid DSH.
Sec. 1705. Expanded outstationing.
Subtitle B—Prevention
Sec. 1711. Required coverage of preventive services.
Sec. 1712. Tobacco cessation.
Sec. 1713. Optional coverage of nurse home visitation services.
Sec. 1714. State eligibility option for family planning services.
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Sec. 1731. Optional medicaid coverage of low-income HIV-infected individuals.
Sec. 1732. Extending transitional Medicaid Assistance (TMA).
Sec. 1733. Requirement of 12-month continuous coverage under certain CHIP
programs.
Subtitle E—Financing
Sec. 1741. Payments to pharmacists.
Sec. 1742. Prescription drug rebates.
Sec. 1743. Extension of prescription drug discounts to enrollees of medicaid
managed care organizations.
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certain low income beneficiaries, or a simi1 amounts authorized to be appropriated for such purpose,
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there are authorized to be appropriated, out of any monies
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in the Public Health Investment Fund, the following:
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‘‘(1) $51,000,000 for fiscal year 2010.
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‘‘(2) $54,000,000 for fiscal year 2011.
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‘‘(3) $57,000,000 for fiscal year 2012.
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‘‘(4) $59,000,000 for fiscal year 2013.
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‘‘(5) $62,000,000 for fiscal year 2014.
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‘‘(6) $65,000,000 for fiscal year 2015.
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‘‘(7) $68,000,000 for fiscal year 2016.
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‘‘(8) $72,000,000 for fiscal year 2017.
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‘‘(9) $75,000,000 for fiscal year 2018.
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I Hope the Seniors are reassured? sincerely Fezzy Bear
‘‘(10) $79,000,000 for fiscal year 2019.’’.
I Know , I Know, if only Nancy would have let us read it, to begin with, sincerely Fezzzy Bear
Are you a joke or have nothing better to do?
I think that pretty much sums it up.
There goes 13 of my employees so I can get below 50 and that's provided I don't close all together. I've spent the last 25 years building my company from 3 employees and have always treated them like family instead of workers. It's just one more nail in the coffin of small business and I'm too tired to go through anymore paperwork, fines, or regulations.
It's a RIGHT. And you know who gives you your rights- the Government!
It is the duty of those having more than others to provide.
We must all be equal. No one may have more or less.
The government provides.
Please work hard so I can get my fair share.
Thank You..
Where are any of these a "Right"?
That's right - they are not rights.
There is no such thing as "Fair Share."
The government only provides what it has taken from somebody else.
I have no desire to be equal - I work to get more.
If the government insists it is the equalizer - I will work to take as much as I can get and complain all the way. I can look as needy as the next guy - maybe more. If that's what it takes, I can play that game too. We can all learn to have a hand out to receive the bounty of somebody's elses work.
Health care - I deserve every test my doctor can dream up - who cares if he is a partner in the facility - it is my right and I don't care what it costs. Drugs, only the best for me. I have an ache - I want specialists and several opinions. It's my RIGHT.
Thank you so much government - insurance was the problem in raising costs and now you give them the power to tap taxes. Come on rich - pay your way times 10. What you have is now mine. Thanks..
I'm 63 years old. I worked for Qwest phone company for over 30 years. Part of my retirement was health benefits...My monthly payment was $41. My wife has stage 3 ovarian cancer and has been on chemo for the last 10 years to keep her alive. Qwest sold my division to The Carlile Group (G.W. Bush) for 8 Billion dollars. The Carlile group sold it to R.H. Donnelly who I never worked for and they drove it in the ground and filed chapter 11. After coming out of chapter 11 and with the help of the union (CWA & IBEW) They dropped all benefits to the retirees over the next 2 years. I now pay $800 a month and next year $1600 then it's over. How do you help me without some sort of reform or do I just let my wife die? jk
I have true sympathy for your situation, John. Really. But retirement health care is being phased out as a retirement benefit faster than people can retire, since its costs are literally out of control. I think what you're saying is once you're on medicare, they will pay. In the meantime, if you can't afford the premiums, can you find a job that includes health insurance as a benefit? Maybe that can get you over the line.
Seems like the only thing real is taxes. No benefits other than some sweetheart deals for the unions. Seniors in perfect health will benefit if they find any. The rest need to get their affairs in order.
It's our money first off, not theirs, and then a fine for not purchasing health care, what a boon.
Secret to health care is employment---the Dems have done nothing for employment and the Stimulus only made GOVERNMENT jobs which leach off of the system.
I am meeting a lot of once dems who will never vote dem again (many black) because of the thick Washington wax in that mans head lodged between those huge ears. This is a sham
START OVER!
WOW,
2700 page bill boiled down to one page? Freakiing amazing! This is nothing to do with health care and all about repaying the SEIU for electing Obama, this bill is mainly lies and exagerations and makes Enron's accounting look like the poster child of financial rectitude. Welcome to the USSA comrades. Oh! they attached the Education reform bill to the monstrosity just to add to the Left Wing takeover! The UK National Health service is the third largest employer in the world, aagter the Chinese Army and the Indian Railways, for less than 80 million people! just imagine the DMV staff running your mrdical care, HAHAHJAHAHA!
Yep, and if you're older and want something more than a pain pill....good luck....this came straight from Mr. Obama himself. So why do they say they don't have death panels, you know decide who is going to die and not???
OBAMA has said seniors sex life ends at age 70--these are Obama's words also seniors will be denied health care after age 70 because it will cost too much to keep them alive---Obama is very careful to show only people of younger age not seniors being able to get this so called GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED HEALTH CARE this is SOCIALISM doesn't matter how you say it the only thing seniors will get is prescriptions.
AuntE, stats can say different things depending on how you look at them. 8% could mean that he isnt hiring lobbyists in his cabinet. Guys who simply still work for the big companies to be on the inside making sure their companies and pensions are safe. You know like Paulson who came in and "saved" america with bailouts, oh wait, saved his company, goldman Saks with bailouts and didnt save the competition. But that is the way it works isnt it.
Most of them are tax cheats!
If the stimulus money paid every legal US citzen $10,000 ea Which it could have based on the billons to bail out the insurance companies. USA's economic development would have returned.
DONT give the money to Insurance Companies, we've made them too powerful as it is.
According to the bill - you have to BUY insurance or PAY a FINE.
If I can't afford to live in my house - how in the he.. am I going to pay for Health Insurance.
I also love how they want to model things after the Mayo Clinic, when one of the Mayo Clinic Satellite offices in Arizona announced recently that it will no longer accept Medicare because it can't afford to. And the Mayo has always made patients file the Medicare paperwork themselves (most Dr's offices do this for patients, but it increases administrative costs tremendously).
We need reform, but expanding a broken system (Medicare) is probably not a good idea.
If this thing passes, you are going to see a tremendous number of providers (doctors) jumping ship and retiring or finding jobs at pharmaceuticals and insurance companies. So, more people will be covered, but there will be fewer people to see them -- sounds like fun to me.
well everyone, I can't afford another house payment. The illegals have taken up most of the jobs in the construction industry around here. I'm struggling to find work and don't really want to break my back for 8 bucks an hour. My wages are getting undercut and have been for many years. I guess at least I'll have health insurance when I move into my van down by the river. So, I'm better off making less than 44,000 a year. Let's see, so if I make even less than that, and claim to be from Hungary and can't speak english and have no papers? I get food stamps, a place to live, health insurance. Hmmm. If i start having even more kids I get even more benifits.. Hmmm. So if I have eight kids and cant afford any of them than I will get even more benifits. Hmmm. I think I get how America WORKS now.