Seeded on Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:41 PM EDT (msnbc.com)
U.S. health officials on Thursday sought to clamp down on the marketing of cigarettes to children and teenagers after a failed attempt more than a decade ago.
dave; higher fines,raised taxes,increase cig. prices don't and will not work. SANCTIONS do not work. Just makes it feel uncomfortable at best. They should either make it legal or illegal to have tobaco products.
So, come on all of you people constantly whining about "big government". This woud certainly qualify as "big government", "nanny state", whatever else you want to call it!
I don't remember the last time I saw a cig ad anywhere but a billboard (not many at that) or in a magazine.
Billboards can have almost anything on them lately, and the magazines I've seen have the cig ads right next to an article that teaches a lady "How to bring herself to climax six different ways!" or next to pictures of naked people. I wouldn't think the people that still think cigs are marketed to kids would want them reading that anyway. It's not like Camel has a full page spread in Seventeen magazine or anything.
Cigs are marketed to children less than beer. They had to end the run of Joe Camel, only because it was "cartoon looking", but they still let the cute little baby clydesdale run around all happy in Bud Light commercials. Now, thinking as a child, which would I want to see more? A non-moving picture of a slightly cartoonish camel with bulging muscles wearing a t-shirt playing pool? Or, would I rather see a commerical on tv of the cute little baby clydesdale running around with it's little dalmation and calf friends? Gee, hmmm, I don't know...That camel does look kind of grotesque...I think I'll go with the cute little horsey!
I think these people need a new battle cry. It has been a couple decades after all.
The FDA needs to grow a spine and outlaw tobacco. Period. All the farmers raising tobacco plants could easily convert to different crops -- like food -- and the government could then restrict the import of tobacco into this country. Yeah, I know, using tobacco should be OK, but it kills, just like alcohol, cocaine, and heroin. It just takes longer while it is making the big tobacco companies billions and billions of dollars from an addicted population.
Make weed legal, then the two would have to compete. We could strike a blow to the drug lords, tax it for more national income, and give the population a non-toxic choice.
Smoking disgusts me....and it absolutley depresses me to see young, beautiful teens threatening their health by doing so. And I have to disagree, Elaine Keller, with your remark regarding electronic cigarettes. They are not being marketed to only adults....there is a kiosk in our nearby mall, with hip-dressed YOUNG guys and girls, selling these things and putting on display all of the "cool" tricks they can perform by blowing "vapors" into the air. Great.....entice my kids into a nicotine addiction! I feel much better now!!! Why the hell can't people be smart enough to see what all these vices do to your body. Dumb. Period.
The U.S. has to either keep tobaco products legal or make it illegal to have. No between. Higher prices on tobaco products,increase taxes do not work. SANCTIONS do not work.
I don't smoke. I am allergic to all kinds of smoke, including chimney smoke. The by-products of cigarettes is disgusting.
But this is just what America needs, government telling a company what they can and can't market in the way of T-shirts and hats. Yep, let's clamp down on ANY type of manufacturing. (Of course, if these products are made anywhere other than America, by all means limit them.)
Elaine Keller is correct if the FDA would quit spending tax payer money on courts cost and attorney fees and protect people health by regulating the e-cigarette as a harm reduction tobacco product as Judge Leon told them we all would be better off. I have use the e-cigarette for almost 2 years. I actually prefer it to smoking tobacco cigarettes that is why I made the switch. Teenagers find the e-cigarette to much trouble to use, to expensive, and it is easier to buy cigarettes at the local grocery store. Parent are responsible for what their children are doing, when are we going to treat Parent like adults and expect them to assume their responsibility? Are we all children that need government and other adult (children) to tell us how to live our lives? We going to have a test to see who can manage their own lives? AS a member of the RIGHT TO VAPE organization ask that you think about these question carefully salt and sugar is next.
Right to Vape is a consumer orginazation for the consumers interests only.
New rules will cut advertising, limit vending machine sales
Pssst, If we don't talk about it, it will go away, but unfortunately it won't take the do-gooders and the government with it. If people spent more of their time taking care of their own business and less of it worrying about how they were going to run someone else's life, we would probably be a lot farther down to road to coming up with some real solutions to some of our more serious problems instead of trying to legislate a utopia. Pass whatever laws that will fill your coffers, which is what it's all about in the first place, but people are going to do what people are going to do. Prohibition didn't work for a reason.
Why doesn't the FDA, who now has the power, make smoking illegal? It's taxed folks. Smokers pay over $1.00 a pack in taxes. It's too rich for them to just wipe it out. Talk about a government conspiracy! They know it may kill you. They know it makes people ill, both smokers, second hand, and now even third hand. Answer the question someone who knows because smoker or no, this makes no sense what so ever.
It's about time, But they need to do more! Heavier fines to those who sell tobacco to miners for one!!
dave; higher fines,raised taxes,increase cig. prices don't and will not work. SANCTIONS do not work. Just makes it feel uncomfortable at best. They should either make it legal or illegal to have tobaco products.
So, come on all of you people constantly whining about "big government". This woud certainly qualify as "big government", "nanny state", whatever else you want to call it!
I don't remember the last time I saw a cig ad anywhere but a billboard (not many at that) or in a magazine.
Billboards can have almost anything on them lately, and the magazines I've seen have the cig ads right next to an article that teaches a lady "How to bring herself to climax six different ways!" or next to pictures of naked people. I wouldn't think the people that still think cigs are marketed to kids would want them reading that anyway. It's not like Camel has a full page spread in Seventeen magazine or anything.
Cigs are marketed to children less than beer. They had to end the run of Joe Camel, only because it was "cartoon looking", but they still let the cute little baby clydesdale run around all happy in Bud Light commercials. Now, thinking as a child, which would I want to see more? A non-moving picture of a slightly cartoonish camel with bulging muscles wearing a t-shirt playing pool? Or, would I rather see a commerical on tv of the cute little baby clydesdale running around with it's little dalmation and calf friends? Gee, hmmm, I don't know...That camel does look kind of grotesque...I think I'll go with the cute little horsey!
I think these people need a new battle cry. It has been a couple decades after all.
The FDA needs to grow a spine and outlaw tobacco. Period. All the farmers raising tobacco plants could easily convert to different crops -- like food -- and the government could then restrict the import of tobacco into this country. Yeah, I know, using tobacco should be OK, but it kills, just like alcohol, cocaine, and heroin. It just takes longer while it is making the big tobacco companies billions and billions of dollars from an addicted population.
Robin Herne; Very true. Leed by example.
Make weed legal, then the two would have to compete. We could strike a blow to the drug lords, tax it for more national income, and give the population a non-toxic choice.
Yes, because banning a substance means people will not use it anymore...
Smoking disgusts me....and it absolutley depresses me to see young, beautiful teens threatening their health by doing so. And I have to disagree, Elaine Keller, with your remark regarding electronic cigarettes. They are not being marketed to only adults....there is a kiosk in our nearby mall, with hip-dressed YOUNG guys and girls, selling these things and putting on display all of the "cool" tricks they can perform by blowing "vapors" into the air. Great.....entice my kids into a nicotine addiction! I feel much better now!!! Why the hell can't people be smart enough to see what all these vices do to your body. Dumb. Period.
Just as hostility and obnoxiousness disgusts me. Why can't people see how hostility toward strangers shortens their lives. Dumb. Period.
Keep on smokin' Bartman!!
The U.S. has to either keep tobaco products legal or make it illegal to have. No between. Higher prices on tobaco products,increase taxes do not work. SANCTIONS do not work.
I don't smoke. I am allergic to all kinds of smoke, including chimney smoke. The by-products of cigarettes is disgusting.
But this is just what America needs, government telling a company what they can and can't market in the way of T-shirts and hats. Yep, let's clamp down on ANY type of manufacturing. (Of course, if these products are made anywhere other than America, by all means limit them.)
Elaine Keller is correct if the FDA would quit spending tax payer money on courts cost and attorney fees and protect people health by regulating the e-cigarette as a harm reduction tobacco product as Judge Leon told them we all would be better off. I have use the e-cigarette for almost 2 years. I actually prefer it to smoking tobacco cigarettes that is why I made the switch. Teenagers find the e-cigarette to much trouble to use, to expensive, and it is easier to buy cigarettes at the local grocery store. Parent are responsible for what their children are doing, when are we going to treat Parent like adults and expect them to assume their responsibility? Are we all children that need government and other adult (children) to tell us how to live our lives? We going to have a test to see who can manage their own lives? AS a member of the RIGHT TO VAPE organization ask that you think about these question carefully salt and sugar is next.
Right to Vape is a consumer orginazation for the consumers interests only.
http://www.righttovape.com/forum/
Pssst, If we don't talk about it, it will go away, but unfortunately it won't take the do-gooders and the government with it. If people spent more of their time taking care of their own business and less of it worrying about how they were going to run someone else's life, we would probably be a lot farther down to road to coming up with some real solutions to some of our more serious problems instead of trying to legislate a utopia. Pass whatever laws that will fill your coffers, which is what it's all about in the first place, but people are going to do what people are going to do. Prohibition didn't work for a reason.
Why doesn't the FDA, who now has the power, make smoking illegal? It's taxed folks. Smokers pay over $1.00 a pack in taxes. It's too rich for them to just wipe it out. Talk about a government conspiracy! They know it may kill you. They know it makes people ill, both smokers, second hand, and now even third hand. Answer the question someone who knows because smoker or no, this makes no sense what so ever.