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Kind of figured that, But I do believe the article. Exercise most likely will eliminate a lot of problems! Watching what you eat as well..
This whole article is about beliefs. Not facts. We are in an era of manipulation and fabrication of public opinion (beliefs). Have you noticed?
After billions and billions of dollars, and arm-twisting for more $$, we will never find a "cure" for cancer as long as we continue to make judgements about illness and life styles.
People are supposed to come in all different sizes.
At least 80% of the cancers diagnosed today are environmentally induced due to the excessive amount of toxins i.e. chemicals in our food, water and air. These chemicals are also endocrine disruptors which lead to thyroid dysfunction and insulin resistance which is associated with obesity. Yes, diet and exercise are extremely important but they are not the smoking gun; the chemicals are. So, think of that next time you apply weedkiller on your lawn or forget to wash off your fruit.
thank you for your very on target advice. Folks need knowledge.
Has anyone stopped to consider that perhaps one of the reasons Americans are getting fatter (and having more health issues) is the way animals are being fed unatural diets and given hormones and antibiotics? Read the label on most medicines and you will probably see a warning about using them if you are pregnant or nursing. I try to not only purchase organic fruits and vegtables but meat and dairy that are hormone free as well. I agree we need to watch our diets and exercise but is that really enough?
While I am all for good diet and reasonable amounts of exercise, any preventative steps are not going to be supported by the for-profit medical insurance establishment. The original HMO's such as Kaiser and John Deere placed a lot of emphasis on preventative care as a way of managing costs. They provided, or subsidized, gym memberships, for example. They provided things like nutritional counseling. But along came the bean-counting MBA's who pointed out that Americans are constantly changing jobs and health insurance companies. That means that the primary beneficiary of a given HMO's wellness programs is likely to be another insurance company because of job changes. Therefore wellness programs have a negative immediate impact on the bottom line and should be dropped.
Looking at preventative measures to prevent disease or dysfunction means looking at more than this quarter's profits. It means looking years or even decades down the pike. And a 26 year old MBA is not going to look forward 20 years when he is incapable of looking back more than 6-8 years with any accuracy.
And to increase early detection, I'd be more than happy to feel you up.
This article is so irresponsible.
No one has really determined exactly what causes breast cancer. You can shoot arrows at it all you want.
Not getting enough exercise and not eating right are definitely at the bottom of a lot of our problems, but we should NOT mislead people into thinking that if they eat right and get exercise they will not develop breast cancer because that is not true.
This is very distorted and irresponsible journalism and should be placed in the fiction department, not news.
Incredible! So, once again, they find a way to blame the victim. This is going to be another study cited by the insurance companies as a reason why benefits should be denied. They will use this information and say that the disease was self induced or unavoidable and thus not covered by current policies. Good luck winning that battle, or getting new insurance.
dakota...that is exactly what i thought....this is along the lines of not needing mammograms.
all insurance driven
This is irresponsible journalism at it's best! How many articles are written about men's diet and weight to avoid prostrate cancer? Diet an dexercise? Good common sense but no sure prevention whatsoever. I know many non-overweight women who have had breast cancer. And nothing was even mentioned about the lastest work on viruses and cancer. A retrovirus has been found in aggressive prostrate cancer, in some leukemias and lymphomas and now in cfids. Some people have immune system abnormalities in which the immune system is more prone to cancer and other diseases. And as I have read, genes CAN change during a lifetime influenced by many factors. This is the direction medicine must go. So exercise and eat your vegetables, but be aware that other factors are involved.
With all the fat azzes in this country alone, it should be an epidemic according to this fools article.
Here we go blaming the victim. Not only according to "new" research do we not need mamograms until age 50, now if we don't eat healthy, or exercise enough, it's our fault we get cancer. Insurance probably won't cover that either, nor do they cover birth control, but you can best believe your insurance covers Viagra!! Only "women's" diseases are villified. So now if you are a woman and you have breast cancer it's your fault because your fat, but if you are a man with prostate cancer you are a victim. (I don't hate men, by any means, nor do I wish ill intent on anyone, I'm just b!tching that the double standard is not fair, although nothing in life is!)
Bottom line re: Breast Cancer:
GENETICS and producing too much estrogen. Why are so many young women getting this dreaded disease?---
There are no reasons, just all kinds of speculation. There are all different types of specific breast cancers, hopefully no one getting the most virulent aggresssive type, which cannot be cured.
The man can now also carry the genetics for breast cancers for their daughters. This has been documented.
Coming from a high risk breast cancer family, it is a crap shoot.
This is crazy I have 5 Aunts that are breast cancer survivors and none of them are overweight. In fact they were the most active of the 9 sister's.
This reminds me of my smoking uncle. He just died this year. Age 97. His non-smoking wife, just died, too. Age 96.
I don't believe much of what I read anymore. My gut instinct has never failed me. It's my only reliable source of information now.
Differences are supposed to be honored, but everywhere you look, someone is trying to fit everybody into the same mold.
You know two people that lived much longer, so you're going to rely on your gut? That's a very anti-scientific . Would you also recommend that none of your children attend math, physics and other science classes because the gut is the way to understand the world?
Hey, I saw a car driving the wrong way once, so I can't drive because I can't assume that cars usually drive the right way.
Did you all see the news this morning that if women would eat less and exercise more, 1/3 of breast cancers could be avoided?? Yep, that's right. They say that early screening has eliminated 2/3 of breast cancers, and it's all our fault for the remaining 1/3 for our downing that biscuit or chocolate sundae. The article said that, since estrogen fuels breast cancer and fatter women are presumed to have more estrogen, ergo staying slim and seductive would prevent 1/3 of breast cancers. Blaming the victim once again. If estrogen fuels breast cancer, how about doctors quit prescribing female hormones which contain estrogen??! Is that too radical? Or will women fall for it?
You know you will never see an article stating that men should go on diets and exercise more since testosterone fuels prostate cancer. Or that it has been learned that the yeast in beer causes breast cancer in men. Of course, one can live without beer while one cannot live without eating. Sucks, doesn't it?
BILOX:
I eat chocolate sundaes and am a mild exerciser. Will I get it?
". The article said that, since estrogen fuels breast cancer and fatter women are presumed to have more estrogen, ergo staying slim and seductive would prevent 1/3 of breast cancers."
Tell that to Christina Applegate.
What a bunch of BS................QUIT PUTTING CHEMICALS ON/IN OUR FOOD THEN WE CAN DISCUSS HOW ALL TYPES OF CANCER HAS DECREASED.....................Geez I don't believe you people!!!!!!!!!!
I agree! with all of the estrogens and hormones fed to the cows and chickens how can we do anything but suffer from side effects such as cancer??? stop giving money to the chemical/drug companies and let animals feed and eat naturally - how they were created and intended. Young girls are getting breasts at the age of 10 because they are ingesting foods that are laden artifically with hormones. It's a shame that this is the norm...
When brought out to organised medicine in 60's till now that Diabetes is NOT carbohydrate metabolism but FAT metabolism - 'stomach' ulcers are caused by acidophore bacteria and not stress- Genes are to be chemically identified not to blame them but how chemicals externally pumped in Humans can cause cancer and other devastation- the cheap medical-universities professors-pharma industrial complex has caused human devastation's & deaths. Lawyer industry with Insurance industry became vulgar. The Financial Gangsters always benefit. 'We the Americans' know best proved to be disaster. Arrogance Ignorance has no place in medicine.
Look at EVENING NEWS promoted by ABC CBS CNN NBC where the news readers bark how one gets cancer and next second ad says take drugs. Blame Mexicans others for it! Obama Hillary Gates to Mexico to solve Murder & Mayhem while openly support DRUGS INDUSTRY.
DON'T BLAME MEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN from any country.
The rest of world fooled and followed USA.
Change habit or habitat.
When will the medical community wise up completely and figure out that all illness, injury and disease is caused by unresolved, unreleased emotions??? The AMA presently states that 70-85% of disease is caused by stress. What is stress but unreleased, unresolved emotions? As a professional medical intuitive for 20 years, every single case of breast cancer that I have seen was caused by grief, heartbreak, loss and tremendous disappointment. We are taught to keep our emotions in, to not be emotional (unless it is happiness) and to just suck up grief and get on with our lives. Grieving is a process and needs to be treated as such. Release the grief through energy healing and the disease disappears. Energy healing such as core empowerment can heal every disease, every time, as long as the person is willing to do the hard, emotional work and they haven't waited too long to get started. Miracles happen every day.
I'm with you, Terri Jay! What we call "illness" is the body's natural way to solve a problem. We may find so-called "causes" to eliminate, but cures will not be found as long as we keep judging illnesses as bad. They are actually good for serving the purpose of the individual.
Adding stresses of judgement only makes people more ill!
Terri,
I'm trying to find just the right word to describe the scientific stupidity of your post. I'm failing.
Terri Jay:
The old saying goes, "Heal the Mind, Heal the Body". Definitely. Repressed, continued stress is a surety for physical disease.
What exactly is a professional medical intuitive? I agree with Economan, to say that stress and emotion cause cancer is just wrong.
While we are throwing away those cookies perhaps we could also start demanding that the food industries stop poisoning us with all of the artificial hormones that they cram all of our edibles with.
Amen! And how about the seeds that grow plants that contain the genetic material of the pesticide! What the heck are we eating these days!
That said, I am appreciative of the abundance at the market. At least we're not starving to death. Just being slowly poisoned. Maybe I'm wrong. Hope so.
They said they were not "blaming the victims", but what could be so bad about eating a healthy diet and getting excerise??? It would be healthy in a number of other ways also.and it couldn't hurt , could it? And Kathy Stuart, you are right about all the artificial hormones in food too.
And what if one walks across the street or has a Toyota Auto, resulting in death.
Longevity is one big guess. FATE. FATE. That is the determination for how long a person will live.
Enjoy yourselves. Life certainly is too short.
I'm with Wanda 17515176; my mother is very careful to watch her diet, she exercises, only drinks ocassionally and had been diagnosed with breast cancer 3 years ago. I find it amazing that studies go back and forth on this issue. I hate to be negative over this but I believe that cures are there for diseases, but why would "they" (insurance companies, doctors, hospitals and anyone who profits from medical care) does not want cures for diseases found. It would cut into their profits!
I really feel sorry for you Carol if this is your belief in humanity and our country. How depressing it must be. I take exception to your comments and believe there are thousands of dedicated professionals fighting for peoples lives every day and researching potential cures. God bless them and those that support their efforts through donations.
And I am worried for you, Chuck, that you are not concerned with how our Government AKA Big Corporations operate. I do believe that there are thousands of dedicated Scientists and Doctors who are working everyday to make the world a better place. However, then their discoveries are bought out and destroyed by huge, profit driven interests that cannot let Science ruin their profit margins. Do you really think that in 2010 Scientists haven't invented an automobile that can get more than 40 mpg? Do you really think that we cannot raise or grow food without pesticides, herbicides, fertilizers, patented seeds? Scientists and Doctors all over the world try to call out the poisons in our society. They are then promptly fired, blackballed within their fields, and made a laughing stock by government panels, corporations, and media. So, yes, I too believe that AIDS, cancer, diabetes, ADHD, toe nail fungus, ect...are still around because someone is making a huge profit off of these diseases.
All I can say is that I feel sorry for you too. Living in this dillusion must be very depressing and I would suggest that you seek out some qualified help.
It is the immune 'defence' system that protect cells and emotions suppressed suppresses immune system and many diseases are caused by depression- The Pharma Mafia idiots want to peddle drugs not freely express ones emotions- the Police Lawless industry- will arrest for misdemeanor etc.
Industry whether any type must be supported! Not individual human freedom.
Should Nancy Pelocy get involved or OBama Biden? Health Care? The Second Step will be good if basics are practiced by politicians and stop pumping chemicals in Humans right from CHILDHOOD.
Can Politicians Comprehend?
The posters on this board must have some kind of guilt complex. Being overweight and eating lousy foods can and will cause a host of medical problems. For someone to say "if you are a woman and you have breast cancer it's your fault because your fat" is a defensive statement. If you are overweight and eat fatty foods and become diabetic is that also a sexist thing to say? If you smoke and get lung cancer is that a sexist thing to say? I think this report does a great service to young women in saying that you might prevent breast cancer by eating right and maintaining your physical fitness. By doing so they may also avoid a host of other problems beyond breast cancer. Poor eating choices and obesity by both men and women is one of the major factors in driving our health care costs through the roof. Lifestyles and the education system (non-nutritious school meals and no requirement for physical fitness) in the US is a major factor in our health care mess.
By the way my wife is also a breast cancer survivor and she has worked out and eaten healthy for many years prior to her diagnosis. But to discount this study because you are offended is ridiculouss.
Eat well, exercise often, make healthy choices and live long. Pretty simple to me.
Maybe if people stopped drinking 3 sodas a day along with their two bags of M&M's, twinkies, ho-ho's and, oh yeah, one meal of McDonalds per day, they'd be a little healthier... Oh, I forgot their 400 ounce of coke in the morning from their local gas station - yeah, just maybe, we'd be a little healthier...
Troy: I agree. I was sitting at Applebees for take out last night (gift card) and I watched the people walk through the door and most of them were obese. I had walked 4 miles earlier in the day so I earned my meal. I go to the grocery store and see what people have in their carts and none of it is real food. People are so duped. Put down the softee Entemann's donutes and pick up an apple.
I'm a breast cancer survivor who for some unknown reason was blessed with this cancer. I have never smoked, don't drink, alway watched what I ate and exercised an hour 5days a week. I have no family history of breast cancer. Sometimes it just happens.
I agree with Carrie Perry, get rid of all the chemicals in our foods and all cancer rates will decline.
What the hell? I do believe in prevention and healthy lifestyle and feel that education is key to lifestyle changes. However, once again here we go targeting women. Society is constantly bombarding women about weight, what they eat and drink, on and on. Why are people still being told processed foods are better (margarine, butter spread vs real butter.) Now, the powers that be are putting GM ingredients in the food. Why should women fret over dietary lifestyle when we are being bombarded with environmental toxins, poisonous drugs from big pharma, and meat so filthy it has to be recalled for e coli. Stop blaming the women and look to the true source. BTW, that early pregnancy thing is a myth. My friend died 3 years ago at 30 with BC and she was the mother of 3 young children.
ming-315743 wrote "BTW, that early pregnancy thing is a myth. My friend died 3 years ago at 30 with BC and she was the mother of 3 young children."
Your example doesn't disprove that deferred pregnancies reduce the risk of breast cancer. If doctors only looked at one case, their friend, there would be no medicine. The whole point of scientific schooling and analysis is to overcome the emotional bias of personal experience by replacing it with methodical observation, data collection and analysis. Did you miss that in school?
It's so great that we can now find a way to blame breast cancer on the victim. Really???? Words really do elude me here. Wow!
This is crazy-they have just found that estrogen is linked to breast cancer. Im not a scientist, but that would confirm what I have suspected for years-BIRTH CONTROL!!! You cannot put all these harmones (estrogen) in your body and trick it into thinking you are pregnant for years on end and not expect consequences!!! With that being said however, it still wouldn't hurt for EVERYONE to stop eating junk and start excersizing, and I definitely think chemicals in food and the air are to blame also...
IT IS NOT A COINSEDENCE THAT BREAST CANCER BECAME AN ISSUE WHEN HARMONAL BIRTH CONTROL PILLS BECAME POPULAR!!!
No, it is not an coincident. Artificial hormones may have the desired effect when ingested, the problem is that they are not regulated by the normal endocrine function of the body (produced, stored, released) and as such they mainly get peed out, and so hormones go in the water, into our groundwater eventually, then we all eat them, and yes, they cause mutations, as evidenced by the scientific literature. Things are so bad in the Potomac that they are considering an EPA clean-up, fish are all messed up can't reproduce because basically they are on birth control!
That, along with abortion, are the two leading causes of breast cancer, and this linkage has been in the peer-reviewed scientific literature for decades, but the media won't have it, and all the men want their ladies on birth control, and media has convinced women that this is somehow "empowering"?
Out of respect for my wife, we have practiced natural family planning for almost 23 years, and never introduced chemicals or devices into our lovemaking. We have 3 beautiful healthy children, when we wanted them, and none since, now approaching menopause. Real love demands respect and total sharing of one another, complete and total.
But the modern folks want to just "pop a pill" to prevent pregnancy or end pregnancy... what the heck.
Love to all suffering from cancer. The wages of sin are death (we weren't ever supposed to die), and illness is just a advance on your paycheck.
Vasectomies in mice are linked to increased rates of prostate cancer.
When the "experts" don't know what else to do or say, they decide to blame the victim. If what they are saying is true, maybe we should take all that Susan Komen money and begin education girls, (and boys), about excersize and nutrition in preschool and perhaps even before that. I take this article with a grain of salt because I was never fat, I have always excersized, and I ate well before my diagnosis. Sometimes this disease just happens. I have already put myself through all of the could of and should of guilt trips ans I refuse to do it again.
Susan Komen is major partner with Planned Parenthood, the leading provider of abortion in the USA. No wonder, and since abortion is scientifically linked to a 50% chance of developing lifetime breast cancer, the main reason I cannot support Susan Komen, despite all the hype about "the Cure".
Screwed up!!!
Susan Komen is a wonderful foundation that partners with other leaders in prevention of and education about breast and cervical cancers, among others. The 50% "scientific link" is absolutely untrue and is a made-up "statistic" used by the anti-choice side as a fear tactic. I'm sure if this terrible cancer were to strike you, you would be more than happy to have the support of the amazing people that volunteer their time and services for the Komen foundation.
Article ignores environmental/chemical/pollution causes. Fat may a good host or help, but is not the root cause. It's easier to blame fat people than the contributing (double meaning intended) industries.
beagle bob wrote "Article ignores environmental/chemical/pollution causes"
That's because no one, including yourself, is able to quantify. We do know that compared to one hundred years ago, humans are living much longer thanks to chemicals.
THIS IS AN EFFORT TO BLAME THE VICTIM OF BREAST CANCER SINCE NOW......WE HAVE OBAMA CARE AND THEY WANT TO RATION FOLKS !!!!
Amazingly.....you didnt hear much about this kind of thing UNTIL REALLY RECENTLY.....Now supposedly, WE "DONT NEED" breast exams....We Dont "NEED" this or that....AND "its your fault if you have THIS" !!!??? THIS IS A MEDIA PLOY .....
While SOME of this....has effects on the disease perhaps....articles such as this will have people blaming the people with the disease and THEY MAY DO NONE OF THESE THINGS AND STILL HAVE THE DISEASE....OR DO ALL OF THEM AND ITS STILL NOT THE CAUSE OF IT !!!! There is NO way to seperate out which is which....so this is JUST WRONG !!!!
You have Michelle Obama worried if your "kids are too fat" but she isnt getting ANY LESS WIDE is she? I can tell you from EXPERIENCE of knowing someone who DIED of aneroxia....THEY USED FAR MORE HEALTH CARE RESOURCES TRYING TO STAY ALIVE THAN ANY FAT PERSON I KNOW !!!! Try comas, organ shutdowns, psychologists, LOTS OF HOSPITAL STAYS.....Lots of doctor appointments and special treatments..... Anorexia is a MENTAL ILLNESS with horrible physical consequences....AND YOU ARE GONNA TELL A KID WHO DOESNT KNOW THE DANGERS....THEY ARE TOO FAT? Just sayin.....? This girl I know that died had been aneroxic since age 15 and had a terrible battle with it up to her 40's.....some boyfriend had "called her fat"...so she went on an all out effort to make sure she would never be "fat" again.....
THE GOVERNMENT is NOT concerned with YOUR HEALTH...the GOVERNMENT is concerned with OWNING YOU and the health of you and your family...SO THEY can TELL YOU WHAT TO DO, WHAT TO EAT, AND IF YOU "DESERVE" medical care or not....THIS IS NOT THEIR JOB....THEY WERE HIRED FOR OTHER PURPOSES !!!! They were NOT hired to be YOUR DOCTOR....YOUR MENTOR....YOUR PARENTS....YOUR DIETICIAN.....OR ANYTHING ELSE.....
I have ALSO recently heard that people with heart problems dont need angigrams and stuff EITHER.....SUDDENLY ALL THESE THINGS WE HAVE USED SUCCESSFULLY FOR YEARS....JUST "ARENT NEEDED ANY LONGER" SINCE A SOCIALIST MARXIST WANTS TO CONTROL YOUR HEALTH CARE ???? Interesting......
TRUTH IS....You are "imperfect" if you are "sickly" and "not WORTH" living.....They want to TAKE AWAY YOUR CARE and give it to some ILLEGAL or someone who......REALLY DOES SIT ON A COUCH ALL DAY LONG AND DRINK TWO LITERS OF SODA AND EAT BON BONS AS THEY WAIT ON THEIR WELFARE CHECKS AND FOOD STAMPS TO BUY EVEN MORE JUNK FOOD.....
I BETCHA THEY DONT KICK FAT PEOPLE OFF WELFARE THOUGH !!! HOW MUCH YOU WANNA BET ME? Think they will BAN them from getting candy, chips, soda, sugary cereals, steaks, ribs and other fattening stuff WITH FOOD STAMPS? NOT LIKELY !!!! Think they will weigh them AND IF THEY ARE OVERWEIGHT KICK THEM OFF ASSISTANCE? KICK THEM OFF THEIR TOTALLY "FREE" HEALTH CARE YOU ARE PAYING FOR ? NOT LIKELY......
BUT IF YOU .....have some medical condition....ITS "YOUR FAULT" and you dont "NEED TREATMENT OR CARE"......See how this is playing out ?
My MOTHER IS A BREAST CANCER SURVIVOR OF 6 YEARS.....SHE NEVER SMOKED, DRANK, EATS HEALTHY AND ALL THE THINGS THEY CLAIM "CAUSE" THIS HORRID DISEASE......
MSNBC SHOULD BE ASHAMED TO EVEN HINT.....LADIES WITH BREAST CANCER "BROUGHT THIS ON THEMSELVES"......THIS ISNT LIKE ALCOHOLISM OR SMOKING....SOMETHING WILLINGLY DONE TO ONESSELF.....AND SINCE YOU CANNOT SEPERATE OUT IF THESE FACTORS CAUSED THE CANCER OR DIDNT......MSNBC SHOULD REFRAIN FROM SUCH ARTICLES OR NOT PUT SUCH A "SLANT" ON THEM......
I thought women after menopause have a reduction of estrogen in their bodies! How about blaming our environment and all the artificial stuff thrown into our food and drink and even in the plastics that we store our food in? But somehow women are to be blamed for getting breast cancer. The majority of the world is still sexist. Women having heart attacks have different symptoms than men, are often overlooked, and dismissed and sent home with a diagnosis of stomach upset, stress and "it's all in your head." And this happens right here in the United States. So why not blame women for getting breast cancer. What a crock of S__T!
I personally know 5 different women who have had breast cancer. They are all slim, athletic healthy eaters. Thankfully they are all alive and I hope they don't read this STUPID article.
How many of these posts of anecdotal evidence must we read? So, out of a population of 300 million US citizens and about 150 million women, you can subtract your five friends. That leaves 150 million other people to consider.
If drug manufacturers used one tester and his friends, where would be be?
The greatest chane to the healthcare bill, would be to put requirements in it for eligibility for treatments of i;;messes. An example would be no coverage for smokers that have any pulmonary diseases, coronary illness, or strokes. Obesity and connected illnesses is another example. Why should any citizen be forced toassist in paying for healthcare for someone that is fueling their disease; nor should insurance companies be forced to cover them. Timetables need to be created to show how long a person has been off of tobacco products; acute alcohoism under control; drugs clean. Testing must be a random 3 times a year checks with loss of all coverage for 12 months and clean for 12 months. Big Brother begat Big Brother. Demos will cry loudly on this proposal.
Depends on who you listen to. Earlier reports implicated the progesterone in hormone replacement therapies, not the estrogen. Reminds me of nutrition advice published several years ago. One week mushrooms were responsible for cancer, the next week a compound was found in mushrooms that was a cancer fighter. I'm living my life the best way I can and still enjoy it.
If France and Italy are held up as examples of places where womens' average weight has remained the same for decades, why is their breast cancer rate basically the same as American women? Articles like this provide assumptions, speculation and hysterical conclusions, not a thorough review of the facts. That said, I personally am trying to lose weight and increase my activity level to improve my overall health based upon the many reliable scientific and well-researched reports that indicate it will be better for me overall. Maybe I will still get breast cancer but I will be in a better position to fight it if I am healthy.