Ive could have told people this, i didnt have to be a rocket scientist to figure this one out.
Its seem the one that smoke at public establishment dont care, because they dont care how they die, or live, or how they are ruining other people lives with their second hand smoke!
Good ARTICLE!!! maybe some people will listen. . . . NAH!!!!
If they add 12 years for each bad habit then I'm 101 years old! Well, I did quit smoking 6 years ago so I'll take 6 years off from the total and that makes me 95 years old. No wonder it's a pain in the ass getting up in the morning! Also explains why I can't remember what sex was.
Euell Gibbons, "Mr.Natural" choked on some roots and berries. Jim Fixx, the original 'aerobics guru' dropped dead exercising.
These types of people will use fear as a tool with which to snatch money out the pockets of fools. I'm just telling you what I know. And don't ask me how I know :-)
Yep, and dancer Gregory Hines was in top physical condition and died at 57. On the other hand, Johnny Depp, a chain smoker, gets rated near the top of celebs who have aged the best. It's mainly just genes. There are some things you can do to help, for sure. But 12 years? C'mon. I think one of the things that age us the most is reading stories like this and getting all spun up about them.
You're going to die when it's your time to die. No matter how you live your life. Now of course my wife and my shrink disavow my attitude about this, but what the hell do they know?
More junk science. The first habit -- smoking -- acts as an order-of-magnitude amplifier for every other bad habit; mixing them in the study creates four variables and four unknowns, in effect providing no guidance to the public.
Not so fast. I have good sense and I smoke (I'm good on the other 3). I've quit a half dozen times, and even gained 35 pounds the first time. I never lost the last 10.
Stopping smoking is a bitch. There was a 2 year period when I was reassigned and my job was not stressfull and I quit, but when I returned to my old job I was smoking again in 4 months.
I know other people under stress have the same problem. Ask Tigers manager Jim Leyland, or the President.
Well nami, looks like you need some more help quitting several time and gain weight, i see something wrong here. you need another hobby beside smoking, smoking doesnt make you lose the weight you have to go out there and exercise, dont just sit like a bump on a log.
You need to exercise, if you think smoking curbs your eating habit, then theres some self esteem problem going behind that thinking.
Danger - D: Nicotine also suppresses about 30% of the nutrients you take in as food - that's another reason you gain weight after quitting smoking. Your body is finally absorbing your food. Check with your doctor as to how much Vitamin B is sucked out of your body with every ciga
I just love the life style police. I for one am always happy to have other people inform us how inadequate we are and how to live our lives. It is good there are so many who have all the answers.
Nami, you are just lazy and weak. I know plenty of elderly people who smoked their ENTIRE adult lives, and one day just stopped. No complaints, no whining, they didn't let themselves get fat either. If you want to kill yourself, fine. Just stop making excuses.
Nami: There are other ways to relieve stress. When I am stress, for example, I reach for my musical instrument. Others go for a walk, watch a comedy, take a mini trip, etc. I have a friend who would fill the tub with warm water and sit in it for what seems like hours. I challenge you to reach for something other than a cigarette the next time you feel stress.
Precisely. Light 'em up, pour me a tall glass on the rocks, and let the self-rightchous rant. All of their chatter is simply dull wind. "Run little gerbils! Be healthy. Live long."
Amen, live life, have fun! People who are so against things are just fearful of meeting their maker! 12 years hmmmm that would put me at 60. Maybe I might not get to see the shackles be put on Americans!!
Silly willy, what can you do with a woman in your ear? That's not how it works. Keep drinkin', smokin' and sittin' around, you'll have no use for a woman.
Had a friend tell me if he gave up smoking he was told he would live for 10 extra years. He didn't quit smoking saying he could not afford to live for an exta 10 years. :-)) Just a joke people... for those too serious to get it.
They also say that eating fast food makes you fat, eating processed meat gives you cancer, giving your children milk introduces them to growth hormones, and drinking the daily recommended amount of tap water for your entire life will give you brain cancer because of all the fluoride.
If you give up red meat and start eating fish daily, you'll likely end up with a high % of mercury in your bloodstream.
I guess the guy who doesn't smoke or drink, but has a belly sticking out so far that he suffers from "Dicky-Do" syndrome is better off? We all have to die somehow, and holding out to see what happens when I'm 85 doesn't seem that appealing to me.
This article made me realize that I need a new tattoo, a new bottle of Evan, a bag of ice, and a smoke.
MobTown - precisely. If everyone gave up eating meat, there would be a huge surge in health benefits and the cows would be happy too. People have no idea what they are putting in their mouths anymore but you can be assured that factory farms use plenty of things (chemicals and additives) that, if you knew, you would realize are killing you - just as assuredly as smoking, drinking, couch surfing, and not eating your veggies (which, by the way, contain just as many chemicals and additives as meat).
Live is short...enjoy it! My grandfather once installed an AC unit back in the 60's, but never used it. It cost too much to run. He lived his whole life without for fear of doing without. No thanks. I'll take my chances. Cheers.
jameseg - achieving true health reform would require a complete make-over of the American lifestyle and diet. and, even with all new controls in place, people would still get sick and die.
When I heard about Jim Fixx who died in 1984 running in Central Park, I kinda lost interest in other people's opinions on how to stay healthy. We all die.
Fixx died at the age of 52 of a fulminant heart attack, after his daily run, on Vermont Route 15 in Hardwick. The autopsy revealed that atherosclerosis had blocked one coronary artery 95%, a second 85%, and a third 50%.[citation needed] Some who opposed his beliefs said this was evidence that running was harmful.[2] However, Fixx came from a family where the men had poor health histories. His father suffered a heart attack at age 35, dying of a second at 42.[3]
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He didn't die from exercising, he died because of family history.
Okay so then the jogging didn't matter, is that what you're saying? All the healthy living couldn't save the man because he had flawed genetics or "Family history"?
Please pour me another bourbon. It's not my health that's killing me... it's reading these contrite comments.
Exactly. And what about the 30-somethign jogger on Hilton Head Island who was killed by a small plane with engine problems. Health was clearly on his mind while he was running down the beach. Lot of good it did him !!
Actually, it looks like Fixx added 17 years before he had a heart attack, all due to exercising. The fact that you will be healthier and live longer isn't a theory, it's fact, but trying to compare two different people doesn't work.
If you live a health lifestyle, then you will live longer than YOU would have living an unhealthly life, but not necessarily longer than the chain smoker next to you. But, if that same chain smoker lived a healthy lifestyle, he would live longer as well.
Granted, that's assuming a death by natural causes. I don't care how many curls you do, getting hit by a Suburban will still leave a mark.
Not a bad article but most of it is just plain commen sense really. My key to staying fit is just to keep moving, no matter get out and do something EVERY DAY!!! A few years ago I got injured and had to do physical therapy for two years and the main thing it taught me was the body needs to stay moving. I can remember arguing with the PT that I was in too much pain and didn't want to do the therapy but dang she insisted and everytime, once I began moving around the pain began to subside and I would get stronger and begin healing. So keep on truckin people, get out there walk, run, dig dirt in the yard, bicycle, play basketball, cut down a tree, wash your car, walk to the market, just keep moving!!!
All you gen y'ers and x'ers better quit twiddling your tumbs get off your butts and get moving no one, not one single person on this entire planet is immune to the ultimate end, only some go sooner than later. Get moving!!!
I see many comments people stating that it is common sense to not smoke and that this is stupid science. You people are very ignorant. Why do you think smoking is considered bad today? It can't possibly be all the research that they've done over the years to show that it was unhealthy.
Or, you can do what my dad did - he did drink, but quit smoking, got lots of exercise and ate lots of fruits and veggies. He was a healthy 85 years old when he fell down the stairs on an overnight with his 82 year old girlfriend, and died from a subdural hematoma. See, all that health stuff didn't help a bit - it was the sex life that killed him.
wasn't anyone even tempted to light up a spear of asparagus?
The smell of pee after eating asparagus is nasty. I couldn't fathom smoking it. LOL. Besides apparently the chemical makeup of it just does not have the mind altering effects of the other stuff. LOL
I heard a caller ask Dr. Dean Edell (sp?) which is better: healthy diet and no exercise or junk food and exercise? He said it may be a tossup - but if one or the other extends your life for a few months and those months are spent in a nursing home, then ...?
That was my first reaction. They needed to do a 20 yr study on this? Oh my God... Hello. Obviously drinking too much, smoking, inactivity and poor diet are not good habits and will age you faster but that don't mean you'll die sooner. What about sun exposure, lack of sleep, yo-yo dieting, Eating disorders. My grandpa lived to be 89. He chewed tobacco, was disabled for many years (from the coal mines), ate bacon and eggs and things fried in lard. I think to a large degree when your number is up, your number is up. Just don't tempt fate.
I so agree. My own great-grandfather buried four wives and died by being bucked off a mule while riding over to court a fifth, age 85...ate what they all did back in the 1890s, everything fried in lard -- worked hard as a farmer but chewed baccy and doubt he ever met a veggie he liked except maybe okra also fried in lard....genes have a lot to do with it; additives in modern foods (like corn syrup, in EVERYTHING) possibly have more to do with disease & early death than any of these 4 factors -- wait till the GMO corn catches up to us!
Meanwhile, I'll be moderate, take my vitamins, walk the dogs, and enjoy my life as much as possible right up until I die.
The truth is we're all gonna go someday. None of us knows how or when. I think living as healthily as possible is wise. However, I ate lots of healthy foods including tofu and soy for many years and at 47 found out I had a hormone receptive breast cancer. Some believe that the hormones found in soy contribute to this type of cancer...go figure.
On a lighter note, I never got hooked on smoking because I couldn't figure out how to inhale. So...when Bill Clinton said that he smoked marijuana but he never inhaled, I totally got it! Everyonel laughs at me still, but that's what I attribute my smoke free lifestyle to. I just couldn't inhale...
Sex is great for burning calories (at least that what my husband keeps telling me).
smoking, drinking too much, inactivity and poor diet - can age you by 12 years, sobering new research suggests.
Well, if you've been drinking a lot, read this article. It is "sobering." It says so. Print it out and keep it next to your coaster... read it between drinks... it is "sobering." Yeah!
Death is just God's way of telling you to slow down .
I agree with some of the other posters, live your life the way you see fit and don't worry about what others think.
If I stopped smoking, ate right, exercised and cut back on a few beers all I'll be doing is slowing down the inevitable, and prolong it to a long agonizing death, without any pleasures.
#23: If I stopped smoking, ate right, exercised and cut back on a few beers all I'll be doing is slowing down the inevitable, and prolong it to a long agonizing death, without any pleasures.
But... you'd be the healthiest corpse in the graveyard...
I have to go with Rodney Dangerfield on this one: "I'm now at the stage in my life, that if I take excellent care of myself, I'm going to get very sick and die."
Good article, but unfortunately the folks who need it the most probably won't read it!!
Its amazing we even need to study this, I mean.... duh.
Sounds like the average Tea-Bagger. No wonder they are so miserable, they should try getting a little exercise!
Ive could have told people this, i didnt have to be a rocket scientist to figure this one out.
Its seem the one that smoke at public establishment dont care, because they dont care how they die, or live, or how they are ruining other people lives with their second hand smoke!
Good ARTICLE!!! maybe some people will listen. . . . NAH!!!!
Hmmm well
Drinking = nope, do not do that
Smoking = nope, do not do that
Inactivity = nope, I am active
Poor diet = eh well it is not the best in the world.
And people do think I am a lot younger than my real age.
WAHOOO works for me LOL.
If they add 12 years for each bad habit then I'm 101 years old! Well, I did quit smoking 6 years ago so I'll take 6 years off from the total and that makes me 95 years old. No wonder it's a pain in the ass getting up in the morning! Also explains why I can't remember what sex was.
;-)
Euell Gibbons, "Mr.Natural" choked on some roots and berries. Jim Fixx, the original 'aerobics guru' dropped dead exercising.
These types of people will use fear as a tool with which to snatch money out the pockets of fools. I'm just telling you what I know. And don't ask me how I know :-)
Yep, and dancer Gregory Hines was in top physical condition and died at 57. On the other hand, Johnny Depp, a chain smoker, gets rated near the top of celebs who have aged the best. It's mainly just genes. There are some things you can do to help, for sure. But 12 years? C'mon. I think one of the things that age us the most is reading stories like this and getting all spun up about them.
You're going to die when it's your time to die. No matter how you live your life. Now of course my wife and my shrink disavow my attitude about this, but what the hell do they know?
;-)
I have mentioned three doctor's concerns at their funerals. No joke.
SPG64. . .you are an ass
Yes I know, but I do have a good time!
Americans need to relax! We have life so much easier than nearly everyone else in the world yet we are so stressed. It is all about moderation folks!
And JEFF, dude lighten up, learn to laugh, you will live longer!
More junk science. The first habit -- smoking -- acts as an order-of-magnitude amplifier for every other bad habit; mixing them in the study creates four variables and four unknowns, in effect providing no guidance to the public.
I've tried to start smoking many times, but it doesn't taste good at all.
Ummmm Cynic? If all those things are bad for you, why on Earth would you need a detailed study of each item in isolation?
People with good sense won't do any of them.
Hey Jherek,
Not so fast. I have good sense and I smoke (I'm good on the other 3). I've quit a half dozen times, and even gained 35 pounds the first time. I never lost the last 10.
Stopping smoking is a bitch. There was a 2 year period when I was reassigned and my job was not stressfull and I quit, but when I returned to my old job I was smoking again in 4 months.
I know other people under stress have the same problem. Ask Tigers manager Jim Leyland, or the President.
Well nami, looks like you need some more help quitting several time and gain weight, i see something wrong here. you need another hobby beside smoking, smoking doesnt make you lose the weight you have to go out there and exercise, dont just sit like a bump on a log.
You need to exercise, if you think smoking curbs your eating habit, then theres some self esteem problem going behind that thinking.
Arcadian,
Nicotine is an appetite suppressant, that's why most smokers gain weight after quitting.
Danger - D: Nicotine also suppresses about 30% of the nutrients you take in as food - that's another reason you gain weight after quitting smoking. Your body is finally absorbing your food. Check with your doctor as to how much Vitamin B is sucked out of your body with every ciga
I just love the life style police. I for one am always happy to have other people inform us how inadequate we are and how to live our lives. It is good there are so many who have all the answers.
Better to have a few love handles on your hips than tumors on your lungs.
Nami, you are just lazy and weak. I know plenty of elderly people who smoked their ENTIRE adult lives, and one day just stopped. No complaints, no whining, they didn't let themselves get fat either. If you want to kill yourself, fine. Just stop making excuses.
Keep increasing the tax on cig's!
Alan,
You are so right that is the foulest taste. Kissing a smoker is like licking an ashtray( and that is the polite comment).
Nami: There are other ways to relieve stress. When I am stress, for example, I reach for my musical instrument. Others go for a walk, watch a comedy, take a mini trip, etc. I have a friend who would fill the tub with warm water and sit in it for what seems like hours. I challenge you to reach for something other than a cigarette the next time you feel stress.
Daddy would you like some sausage!
You can't hurt me... not with my cheese helmet!
Sausage is always best wrapped in Bacon!
My doctor said if I gave up drinking, eating red meat and chasing women I could live to be 100. I asked him "If I did all that why would I want to?"
Precisely. Light 'em up, pour me a tall glass on the rocks, and let the self-rightchous rant. All of their chatter is simply dull wind. "Run little gerbils! Be healthy. Live long."
The depth of life exceeds the length.
Amen, live life, have fun! People who are so against things are just fearful of meeting their maker! 12 years hmmmm that would put me at 60. Maybe I might not get to see the shackles be put on Americans!!
Hardly. I don't need to drink, smoke to have fun and live life. But hey I don't care if you kill yourself, no skin off my nose.
Awesome, then stay the hell out of my business!!!!
Interestingly enough, smoking, poor diet, poor exercise habits and alcohol all contribute to erectile dysfunction.
What were you guys saying, now? Something about depth and length?
Oh no! Not that! Whatever shall I do without a big willy? Hmmm? Let me think? Go for a jog? Nah... Have a salad? Nope...
Pour me a another bourban, Jim... while I think about this. There's a woman in my ear.
Silly willy, what can you do with a woman in your ear? That's not how it works. Keep drinkin', smokin' and sittin' around, you'll have no use for a woman.
this is news?
Had a friend tell me if he gave up smoking he was told he would live for 10 extra years. He didn't quit smoking saying he could not afford to live for an exta 10 years. :-)) Just a joke people... for those too serious to get it.
They also say that eating fast food makes you fat, eating processed meat gives you cancer, giving your children milk introduces them to growth hormones, and drinking the daily recommended amount of tap water for your entire life will give you brain cancer because of all the fluoride.
If you give up red meat and start eating fish daily, you'll likely end up with a high % of mercury in your bloodstream.
I guess the guy who doesn't smoke or drink, but has a belly sticking out so far that he suffers from "Dicky-Do" syndrome is better off? We all have to die somehow, and holding out to see what happens when I'm 85 doesn't seem that appealing to me.
This article made me realize that I need a new tattoo, a new bottle of Evan, a bag of ice, and a smoke.
See you on the other sides kiddies.
MobTown - precisely. If everyone gave up eating meat, there would be a huge surge in health benefits and the cows would be happy too. People have no idea what they are putting in their mouths anymore but you can be assured that factory farms use plenty of things (chemicals and additives) that, if you knew, you would realize are killing you - just as assuredly as smoking, drinking, couch surfing, and not eating your veggies (which, by the way, contain just as many chemicals and additives as meat).
Yes, and my friend George Burns says if you drink a glass of wine everyday for 1200 months, you will live to be 100. That's what I'm goin' for....
Can you substitute a good beer?
Live is short...enjoy it! My grandfather once installed an AC unit back in the 60's, but never used it. It cost too much to run. He lived his whole life without for fear of doing without. No thanks. I'll take my chances. Cheers.
The article seems to contain some nice common sense advice.
Maybe following it would be a key to achieving true health reform.
jameseg - achieving true health reform would require a complete make-over of the American lifestyle and diet. and, even with all new controls in place, people would still get sick and die.
I agree 12345-908903 that several things in the "American lifestyle and diet" can be improved.
And the better we live the longer, happier, and healthier we can live in my humble opinion.
Taking better care of ourselves and others we meet can help us all.
When I heard about Jim Fixx who died in 1984 running in Central Park, I kinda lost interest in other people's opinions on how to stay healthy. We all die.
The man that single handedly got this nation on a crazed health/fitness obsession... died doing the very thing he proclaimed we all should be doing.
Pour me another bourbon while you tell me more bits of wisdom.
Except about Jim Fixx:
wiki
He didn't die from exercising, he died because of family history.
Okay so then the jogging didn't matter, is that what you're saying? All the healthy living couldn't save the man because he had flawed genetics or "Family history"?
Please pour me another bourbon. It's not my health that's killing me... it's reading these contrite comments.
Exactly. And what about the 30-somethign jogger on Hilton Head Island who was killed by a small plane with engine problems. Health was clearly on his mind while he was running down the beach. Lot of good it did him !!
Actually, it looks like Fixx added 17 years before he had a heart attack, all due to exercising. The fact that you will be healthier and live longer isn't a theory, it's fact, but trying to compare two different people doesn't work.
If you live a health lifestyle, then you will live longer than YOU would have living an unhealthly life, but not necessarily longer than the chain smoker next to you. But, if that same chain smoker lived a healthy lifestyle, he would live longer as well.
Granted, that's assuming a death by natural causes. I don't care how many curls you do, getting hit by a Suburban will still leave a mark.
Live to be in a nursing home drooling down your chest... Yeah, that's my idea of life.....not.
There are indeed worst things than being dead
I can't answer this, my wife's here.
Not a bad article but most of it is just plain commen sense really. My key to staying fit is just to keep moving, no matter get out and do something EVERY DAY!!! A few years ago I got injured and had to do physical therapy for two years and the main thing it taught me was the body needs to stay moving. I can remember arguing with the PT that I was in too much pain and didn't want to do the therapy but dang she insisted and everytime, once I began moving around the pain began to subside and I would get stronger and begin healing. So keep on truckin people, get out there walk, run, dig dirt in the yard, bicycle, play basketball, cut down a tree, wash your car, walk to the market, just keep moving!!!
All you gen y'ers and x'ers better quit twiddling your tumbs get off your butts and get moving no one, not one single person on this entire planet is immune to the ultimate end, only some go sooner than later. Get moving!!!
"better quit twiddling your thumbs get off your butts and get moving" I have a granddaughter that does more of that than I do sighhhhh
I see many comments people stating that it is common sense to not smoke and that this is stupid science. You people are very ignorant. Why do you think smoking is considered bad today? It can't possibly be all the research that they've done over the years to show that it was unhealthy.
randomguy...the anti-ignorant. LOL!!
I rode 35 miles on my bike today. I'll hit 500 for the month.
This beer and cigarette taste F A B U L O U S ! !
Or, you can do what my dad did - he did drink, but quit smoking, got lots of exercise and ate lots of fruits and veggies. He was a healthy 85 years old when he fell down the stairs on an overnight with his 82 year old girlfriend, and died from a subdural hematoma. See, all that health stuff didn't help a bit - it was the sex life that killed him.
Wasn't the sex that killed him Sheila, was the stairs. And gravity. Gravity will get you every time.
Was he having sex on the stairs?
Never have been sure how we decided to smoke tobacco and marijuana, and nothing else - wasn't anyone even tempted to light up a spear of asparagus?
The smell of pee after eating asparagus is nasty. I couldn't fathom smoking it. LOL. Besides apparently the chemical makeup of it just does not have the mind altering effects of the other stuff. LOL
I heard a caller ask Dr. Dean Edell (sp?) which is better: healthy diet and no exercise or junk food and exercise? He said it may be a tossup - but if one or the other extends your life for a few months and those months are spent in a nursing home, then ...?
That was my first reaction. They needed to do a 20 yr study on this? Oh my God... Hello. Obviously drinking too much, smoking, inactivity and poor diet are not good habits and will age you faster but that don't mean you'll die sooner. What about sun exposure, lack of sleep, yo-yo dieting, Eating disorders. My grandpa lived to be 89. He chewed tobacco, was disabled for many years (from the coal mines), ate bacon and eggs and things fried in lard. I think to a large degree when your number is up, your number is up. Just don't tempt fate.
I so agree. My own great-grandfather buried four wives and died by being bucked off a mule while riding over to court a fifth, age 85...ate what they all did back in the 1890s, everything fried in lard -- worked hard as a farmer but chewed baccy and doubt he ever met a veggie he liked except maybe okra also fried in lard....genes have a lot to do with it; additives in modern foods (like corn syrup, in EVERYTHING) possibly have more to do with disease & early death than any of these 4 factors -- wait till the GMO corn catches up to us!
Meanwhile, I'll be moderate, take my vitamins, walk the dogs, and enjoy my life as much as possible right up until I die.
The truth is we're all gonna go someday. None of us knows how or when. I think living as healthily as possible is wise. However, I ate lots of healthy foods including tofu and soy for many years and at 47 found out I had a hormone receptive breast cancer. Some believe that the hormones found in soy contribute to this type of cancer...go figure.
On a lighter note, I never got hooked on smoking because I couldn't figure out how to inhale. So...when Bill Clinton said that he smoked marijuana but he never inhaled, I totally got it! Everyonel laughs at me still, but that's what I attribute my smoke free lifestyle to. I just couldn't inhale...
Sex is great for burning calories (at least that what my husband keeps telling me).
Penny LIFE IS GOOD!
wonder how many researchers died during the study?
From article:
Well, if you've been drinking a lot, read this article. It is "sobering." It says so. Print it out and keep it next to your coaster... read it between drinks... it is "sobering." Yeah!
Death is just God's way of telling you to slow down .
I agree with some of the other posters, live your life the way you see fit and don't worry about what others think.
If I stopped smoking, ate right, exercised and cut back on a few beers all I'll be doing is slowing down the inevitable, and prolong it to a long agonizing death, without any pleasures.
But... you'd be the healthiest corpse in the graveyard...
I have to go with Rodney Dangerfield on this one: "I'm now at the stage in my life, that if I take excellent care of myself, I'm going to get very sick and die."
Spare ribs, apple pie and Budweiser, please.
I prefer to be healthy while I'm here - seriously - but the health benefits of wine are well-known. :)
Moderation is the key!