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from:msnbc.comPeople working 10 or 11 hours a day are more likely to suffer serious heart problems, including heart attacks, than those clocking off after seven hours, researchers said on Tuesday.
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...Definitely not definitive. How many days are they working? If you're working seven days a week at 11 hours a day, of course it's bound to have a more negative impact on you. That's stressful, even more so if you're not fond of your job in the first place.
But say you're working 10 hour days over four days. At full time (40 hr week) without overtime, that's a three-day weekend. Would that be just as bad?
But wow, the average person in London only works 7 hours a day? I would love to get in on that.
...and the average person in London is dirt poor and malnourished. The average person in Somolia only works a few hours a week. There's a pattern here.
If you're working 11 hours a day, there is no time for ANY exercise. The result: You die sooner. People that work that many hours are usually not good workers, as they are very slow to complete their work. Companies that require long hours are actually hurting themselves.
If someone is working for me and stays late all the time and never takes a vacation, I tell them to either change their behavior or "you're fired".
So, let me get this straight, in a capitalist society you own your own business, (since you used the term, "if someone is working for me") and you would fire an employee who never took a vacation, never took days off, and worked overtime? Are you hiring? Can I start Monday and begin taking my paid vacaction on Tuesday? Heck, I'll even leave an hour early every day, so that I can't get accused of working late and therefore being fired!
Melanie, you missed Tim's point entirely. A well rounded employee is infinitely more productive
Tim, you must be union. I worked 12 to 15 hours a day for 6 days for years because I was management and we had to cover all the hours the company was open. To assume long hours equals poor performance is typical liberal foolishness. I guess every person that starts a business and hires people is a poor performer? In England the people are so taxed they do not and willnot work extra hours. the performers in America are the ones who work the long hours for rewards and better lifestyle. With the Socialized medicine is it bad to die before retirement, Obama does not want us to live past productive years, unless it is him living. To eat you must work, yur profession will dictate how many hours you must work to have success. Socialism = shorter hours and less success
London is the world's second most expensive city in the world, Toyko is #1. It takes a lot of money to live well there. In Somalia, they'd love to work more hours if available, if for no other reason that putting three squares on the table every day.
Ray, it seems you didn't do the management thing right. Management I've been familiar with work less than workers, and when they were there, spent most of their time driving the workers.
I'm also guessing Ray, that you have a wife who took care of a lot of things while you worked those hours, or were a bachelor and didn't take care of things (e.g., cleaning lady, shirts to the cleaners, etc.)
Either way, though, we're screwed. Rationed care under Socialism may shorten life, but the strain of capitalism will shorten life too. The U.S. only got capitalism "right" for a short period, from about 1945-80. People got ahead in life financially, had job stability and were rewarded with guaranteed pensions, SS & Medicare.
And those not working 10 or 11 hours a day will soon find their office/cubicle occupied by one who will work 10 or 11 hours per day. This is the problem.
I'd be willing to bet that being unemployed and broke is even more stressful and harmful to your health.
funny how in the USA nurses, who have the power of instant life or death over people, are forced to work 12 and 16 hours routinely.
Nurses are some of the most abused workers in the USA, and the people who suffer are the 100,000 people who suffer from medication errors by exhausted nurses every year.
my mom tried to unionize nurses at her hospital in St. Louis. It worked for a bit, but management won in the end. They went on strike and the hospital was able to hold out longer than the nurses. All they wanted was better patient care and they hospital felt that money was more important than their patients....my mom told me "don't ever get sick"
Right ON! For that matter, the entire medical profession in the USA is founded on the Civil War Battlefield Paradigm. Sure, being able to make life or death decisions quickly under pressure is valuable for doctors and other medical people but to use hospital patients as guinea pigs for exhausted medical students, exhausted nurses and exhausted techs is lethal BS. To some extent the same thing applies to airline pilots where the operating company uses every trick to get past rest time. Society is overly dominated by greed and the price is suffering and premature death.
Give me a break. Nurses aren't abused any more than other workers----you get paid for your time and you give it willingly when you accept the job. Drop the Communistic mantra that the workers are abused in the U.S. They aren't.
suggestion Richard, when you are ill try and heal yourself. Have a heart attack and don't bother to go to the Civil War Mentality medical provider, instead go to one of Obama's socialized quality doctor and see what care you don't get.
Hospitals are in the business of making money, not caring for patients, so this shouldn't be too surprising. In any private business money comes first. That's they only reason they exist.
I bet anything that this article was written by a socialist, "drunk" on laziness and "high" on utopia. Working is good for you and society. Look at what not working creates, Greece and most of Europe
work is good
in moderation
slave labor is different
Are you aware that if people work during all of their waking hours, there is NO economy. You have to be actually out doing something to spend money. If all I do is work, all I need is a bed and food.
Workaholics actually do serious destruction to our economy.
I'd just like to know who only works 7 hours a day!
An 8 hour MINIMUM is required by most AMERICAN companies. Or am I being abused??
Until I moved to Arkansas I never worked so long of a day. I hate it.
Where did you work that you had less than a 40 hr. week? This is good info.
Great news!! So, when the governement and my employer pick up the tab for my health insurance, they can "pay" for my mounting health care bills since they feel we the need for us AMerican workers to pick up the pace!!! Maybe when big business starts to realize in the near future, the rising health problems of middle America, they will begin to lower the hours of our work week, women will get paid and actually get time off beyond 6 weeks once they have a child, maybe they'll give us 2 weeks of paid vacation, or if not, we'll work long hours while we put back Doritos, doughnuts, and Dr. Pepper as we take the elevator!!
I am one of the people that works over 11 hours a day. I wouldn't consider myself "slow" or "unproductive," but thank you for your judgement. I would consider myself very motivated and ambituous. My husband is also a nurse that works 12 hour shifts.
Well, I guess I'm a dead man. Worked 32 out of my 37 years on 12 hr shifts that every two months switched from nights to days, then back. Didn't know when to sleep, eat, or have a bowel movement. I guess anything I do, say, or think from here on out.....I've got a legitimate excuse.
That's ok. Living is a fatal disease. We're all gonna die, after all.
Yeah, I'm also one of those people that works 10-12 hours a day because I'm "slow and unproductive". I do it because we are short handed and the work does not get done otherwise. I still find time to run 16-20 miles a week, eat half-way decent, and browse the internet for a few minutes to read stupid posts.
I work a 12 hour shift, that rotates 2 days on 2 days off, I wonder what this means for people like me? The problem is that I work just as hard at home as I do at work most of the time, with the household chores, that are never ending.
First of all, HIGH cholesterol DOESN'T cause heart disease acid in our food does.
Angina and most heart related problems can be CURED with proper diet, meditation and capsasin.
MOST every health condition is from the crap food we are forced to eat. Do some research, it all points back to food.
BTW, cancer and heart disease were almost non existent 60 years ago. You know, when food had nutrition and wasn't full of preservatives, corn syrup and wasn't genetically modified.
As for working, excersise if healthy for you but learn to deal with stress better.
they have found heart disease going back thousands of years
You can find anything if you go back far enough, including cancer. What you fail to understand is that Heart Disease is NOW the 1 killer. It wasn't 1000's of years ago.
Please go do the research. It's like a road map on our food. True story....
We also didn't live so long 1000's of years ago. 40 used to be old age. It's not surprising to find all kinds of health problems when life is prolonged and you are working full time long past the time most humans used to live.
40 was far from old age. The life expectancy was much higher if you don't count all the kids under age 5 dying. You'd often have men in their 60s gearing up for war.
Wow, I am screwed again. Since my employer only expects results and not excuses and my taxes and cost of living are the highest in the country; I have a 4-5 hour commute on top of a 10-12 hour work day to afford to live like an indentured servant. I am now depressed on top of exhausted as I realize I have worked my life away being dedicated for the past 33 years in a job that has no pension plan, no medical plan (even if I could retire) and no light at the end of a very dark tunnel. A heart attack if fatal almost sounds like a happy ending...
All the boss wants me to do is move closer to work so I can work longer hours for him.
Bob all your problems sound self made...Move, find a different job. Why work at the same job for 33 YEARS when you knew it had no pension plan or benefits. I really can't feel sorry for ppl like you . The light at the end of your tunnel my friend is a train!
Even if the research proves true, I doubt the corporate culture will care. They can find replacements
One of the bosses in my company works 12 hours a day, 6-7 days a week. He is only in his late 30s and already has health issues such as high blood pressure and heart issues. He has no social life although he is filthy rich. I may be poor compared to him, but at least I have my health, time for a life and can detach myself from work. I understand people who have no choice (such as nurses), but extreme workaholics who are letting themselves go because of some other void they're trying to fill, need to find a happy balance.
Memo to employee: I couldn't care less about your heart. If you live that long, in 2014 I'm sticking you on Owebamma care and paying the man to encourage your demise. How is that Hope and Change working for you now?
Ya gotta do like NR and just say NO.
Memo from Boss to Researchers and Employees: To quote the great humanitarian, Sen. Jim Bunning (R-Ky)"Tough Sh*t!". Profits are what counts. We don't give you the night off to rest. We give you the night to procreate the next generation of corporate serfs! Otherwise, you'd be working 24 hour days.! Sick? Who gives a rat's a$$ if you are sick? "Productivity" (measured by costs per working hour, not output per working hour) is all that matters. Every second that we can keep you working on the job, up to 70, 80, 100 hours a week, for 40 hours pay, is pure profit for us. Don't you love the 40 hour-week wage laws the way we do? They are the finest laws and loopholes money can buy!
In "out-side" sales positions ie food sales, industrial chemical sales, auto/truck sales, the base if anything is very small....the employee is considered no better than a contact employee..."fire at will" in certain states. No employee rights as to protection.
In AZ, NV or Fl for example, an employee can be dismissed instantly. If, there is commission tied to the employee's account, the employer can find a variety of ways to hold that money and never pay it out.
The old saying goes: "you are as good as your last sale"....nothing to count on for tomorrow. In sales most employees are stacked as within a pyramid scheme. The longest employess don't necessarily get good accounts.
The favorite employees usually get the "cherries"...according to the mind-set criteria of those in charge. a national company employeed a new worker to the chain. He came up w/great contacts and new ideas. When, the sales manager came in to town to ride w/him, he took over the wheel as they went down to see the customers.
At 100mph, the manager was high as a balloon on drugs. There was no way for the low-employee being the new guy to turn-in the creep. The manager took over the "big accounts"...as managers will do....and the employee eventually left. Time and again...the hours can get "put-in"....late nights...weekends...most of the work done from home to get a quick start with on Monday morning.
The local company wanted all of the personal notes from the employee, or they would "hold" the commission check. The personal notes consisted literally of "tips" about birthdays...special remebrances...only to help the sales rep "remember". The notes had no bearing on any operation for any employer. The rep held her ground..and she lost her commission check.
The national industrial chemical companies are notorious for hiring and firing...work the rep....if he produces something "new" and worthwhile...."fire him" for any excuse and hand the new accounts over to the favorites....relatives who happen to be in the same bs...cute girls...guys who know the "secrets".
Being self-employed means long hours...and investment of not only your soul....but, your heart. But, at least one can TRUST one's own self....to not half to worry about tomorrow. In the last 15 years in the work-place companies have turned the ethics of working down to a level equal to "boss" and "labor"...period!
Hmmmmm, interesting. According to Salary Wizard the average "stay-at-home" mom works 17.30958 hours per day, seven days a week, including overtime. Her job description includes: housekeeper, cook, day care center teacher, facilities manager, computer operator, van driver, psychologist, janitor, laundry machine operator, chief executive officer, staff nurse, event planner, nutritionist, logistics analyst, interior designer, bookkeeper, administrative assistant, plumber, general maintenance worker, groundskeeper, seamstress, accountant. Her annual salary (should be) for 2080 hours-$39,277 plus 4238 hours overtime -$120,039 for a total of $159,315.
I get up between 5 and 5:30 am, go to bed at midnight. At least two to three days a week, I get up at 3:30 am to get a jump-start on the day. I've been keeping this schedule for 34+ years. When someone asks what I do, I smile saying "it's too involved for anyone to understand."
I love what I do. Taking care of my kids and grandkids is a full time job that I feel is more important than working in "corporateland." My experience has shown that it is most important for teens to have a strong stable parent home instead of at the office. It means making sacrifices that most parents are not willing to do. I drive a 20 year old minivan, buy my clothes at Walmart, don't eat out, don't go to movies, nor take vacations every year. The last vacation we took was 10 years ago.
Healthy (mental and physical), well educated, happy, stable, well mannered, intelligent children and grandchildren are the result of the hours I "work."
What is with all this communism and socialism crap? I am a progressive and I work 50-60 hours a week. You Tea Bag Idiots are ruiining this country. You did not win an election yet you want to run the country. Are you completely so full of BS and lies, that the only thing that you can see in our President is some kind of made up boogey man crap. We are still paying off all of the conservative government mistakes and lies where billions of dollars went to an unneccessary war. 750,000 jobs a month were being lost at the end of the last conservative government. That's right you the conservatives cost this country it's budget surplus, you conservatives are the ones who overpriced the housing market with your get rich quick schemes.