Seriously? That's really what you took away from this article? Here's a recap from someone who isn't chubby: Overweight girls are having sex earlier and are less likely to use birth control for 2 reasons. 1) Their bodies develop mature characteristics earlier, and 2) Poor self image. Parents who teach kids to live a healthy lifestyle and who work to build up self esteem in their daughters, regardless of their weight, may be helpful in delaying early and unsafe sexual activity. That's all it says. They didn't insunuate that they are "big mac gulping sluts"

I blame McDonalds.

This isn’t the point of the article at all, but…

Yes, some of these girls are overweight because of medical reasons that are truly beyond their control, but we need to face the reality that the overwhelming majority of people are overweight simply because they eat too much and move too little.

Amen. We live in a very sick cruel superficial world.

Here is how you solve this problem. Dads, get off your butts and start being loving supportive fathers. I have three daughters and I know what it takes to keep them on the straight and narrow, and no it's not by locking them in their room or beating them with a belt. You do it by building a loving and trusted relationship with them. This teaches girls that they don't need to leverage their bodies to get affection/attention from a man. This need for male acceptance is very high for young girls. and it's even worse for girls with low self esteem. Fathers, if you don't want your 13 year old to get pregnant, then be a loving and active participant in their lives.

I have 2 daughters that are dating. One is admittedly a little on the chubby side (though I think she is beautiful) and the other is very athletic. One is 16, and the other 18. Neither one of them have ever had sex. And no I'm not naive, we actually talk about this stuff. That is what being a good father is all about. Fathers, convince your daughters they are the best thing in your life and they won't feel the need to use their bodies to get the male attention they crave.

PS. It also helps to show their dates your massive gun collection when they come over :-) I also like to pull out a very large bullet and write their name on it. My girls assure me, this keeps the boys on their best behavior.

This works for sure :O)

This survey was done by "Smart" people, hel- I could have told you that over 50 years ago growing up in the streets of So. Jersey when I was in Jr. High/High School.

Maybe just maybe we should bring back phs.ed. to jr/high schools and make your children go out and play and not with gaming toys, and sitting around watching T.V. all day and night. Stop blaming McD and B/K for your kids getting fat, HEL- your the dumb butt that takes them there, maybe just maybe you could say cook a good meal at home.

I am 67 and I can still get into my uniform from 1960, I weighed in at 155 then and only 165 now.

Like the old Queen song goes "Fat Bottomed Girls you make the Rockin' World go round", not that Freddy Mercury new anything about that.

Actually it's the poison in the food, pesticides used destroy the good bacteria in your system which help in nutrient absorption, which causes a craving effect. You are not a single organism, but part of a Eco system. Some food additives are bad to, soda pop is terrible. It has phosphates that are poison to your system and high fructose corn sweetener which disable you body systems of check and balances. Good article: understanding the relationship between bacteria and obesity. The worst food in the world is an apple. It's been sprayed with 12 kinds of poison.....

Fat grils are not a problem unless your to fat to run away. Mine just lays there and says do you have 2 of those ice cream bars.

It's all a matter of self-respect.
When an impressionable young lady compares herself to the models, and she doesnt make the grade, AND/OR when she is tired of the snickers by others for her weight, WHEN a boy pays attention to her, she is more likely to "give it up" so that the boy(s) will like her...and boys KNOW this - this is predatory behavior.

The logic makes sense, but it isn't what I saw back in high school. Only a handful of very attractive girls got pregnant. I can't recall a single heavy girl who did, in all four years. The dynamics there were that pretty girls got so much attention they caved into the pressure. The others were simply ignored. But I came from a school where the teen pregnancy rate was very low.

Abstinence only education does not address issues such as birth control and STD's. It was funded under Bush and Orin Hatch an elderly mormon Senator from Utah put abstinence only in the health care reform act. Teen pregnancy is now at crisis levels because of one religious fanatic senator. Every teen in america will pay for this cruel attempt to control teens and their knowledge so they can make informed decisions. We need a true separation of church and state. The church can preach virginity and make the kids feel incredibly guilty when the choose to have sex, at least at school the kids should be taught something besides abstinence.

Being fat has little to do with it....the real reason is the socioeconomic situation they are raised in ALSO has poor nutrition. Dangerous to relate the unrelated......unfortunately more poor kids are fat & also have less parental supervision for many reasons!

If the media and the message from hollywood wasn't so full of hidden sexual references and all about image then all the girls who have self-image issues would have a chance. Also, it would be nice if the parents did something to the effect; like making sure their daughters are healthy and feel better about themselves. God forbid that they have to do some parenting while avoiding their kids, watching tv all day and finishing up buckets of fried chicken!!

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to point out this sad truth. Insist on a condom or take whatever you can get.... (Kind of like post #3 points out.)

Why do you think they offer incentives to sell mini-vans? You never hear about rebates or discounts on Ferraris do you? Same with fat bottom girls.

Overweight girls are more likely to start having sex early, to have multiple partners during their teen years, and to eschew condoms compared to thinner teens, a new study shows.

Validation. Because you aren't good unless you wear a size two and act like a Laguana/Hills/OC cast member. They feel they have nothing else to offer in a relationship. It's sad. The best thing parents can do is work on self esteem as early as possible.

I hate to agree, but it was the same when I was in JR and high school. This is not new....

What a shocking revelation. This is monumental news. Certainly worthy of my utmost attention.

Yup can't disagree, a young man is going to take whatever he can get. It's common unspoken knowledge whether people like it or not.

Right, Reggie. My friends and I knew this 50 years ago and were damn glad of it.

Memo to the people who did this study: I would have given you this information and charged you half what you paid. Call me first, next time.

That is immediately obvious to me as a guy.

The sad fact is, is the modern dating economy, overweight girls are at a distinct disadvantage given that the vast majority of guys do not find obsesity attractive.

To make up for this attractiveness gap, they are more willing to have sex. It's both sad and entirely logical and I think both sexes realize this. The more attractive a woman is, the more options she has and the less pressure she's under with respect to sex because she can afford to hold off on it since there will always be plenty of guys willing to wait - not so with a fat chick, they're less in demand so they don't have that kind of leverage.

I'll admit it, in undergrad when I wanted to get laid with minimal time, effort & money I always said to myself "I'll pick up a fat chick" - this is a common tactic.

God I hate studies like this, all they do is confirm common knowledge. Next up, men find younger women more attractive, but why? (rolls eyes)

the people who run these studies never had sex in high school so they think this is earth-shattering revelations they are releasing

I don't know about that.

I never had sex in high school and even I figured this out.

If anything high school virigins should realize this one simple fact by now; when it sex and dating, life is chaotic, superficial, fleeting and cruel - there is no perfect white knight or princess around the corner waiting for you who will instantly realize what a truly great all around person you are - it's a stupid game driven by barely comprehensible biological urges based on subconscious signs of status and physical health. That's all it is.

The fact that people base their entire self worth on a game focused on whether or not their appearance excites the genitalia of another is just sad and tragic.

So I guess we can assume you never excited anyone's genitals in high school, huh Craig?? Too bad, I can guarantee you it's a lot of fun.

I would just like to say thank you to all guys in this column who have identified what complete and utter pigs you are. I should also let you know that if you get within a 1000 yards of my daughters, I will blow your damn head off.

Honestly, your mothers should have taught you to have more respect for women.

Shame on all you guys.

Amen Rhino--When the article points out "low self-esteem" may be a factor in girls who are obese--we see a sterling example on this board of why--plenty of guys who openly spout their immaturity and still see girls as something less than human and around solely for their pleasure. Hard to believe they have any actual women in their lives now...or that they have mothers...

*Cranky Laugh*

However, education levels the playing field - and if the heavier girls can hold out until their later 20's, get a 4-year or advanced degree, not get too huge *under a 14/16 seems to be the cut-off for many of the guys I know* there will be plenty, nay -- lots of men who've "chased, pined-over, had, and finally dumped" the perfect 8,9, or 10 and finally to date and perhaps marry someone who's not a size 2 and is a joy to be around most of the time *as, who's a joy to be around all the time?*

Granted, there has to be attraction at the get-go - but some extra pounds coupled with intelligence, classy/stylish clothes, nice hair, personality, and drive to succeed sure make those few extra pounds disappear. Of course, there will always be the men who are 100% devoted to "hotties only" and they are free to chase away - and have fun at it, which leaves more real men for the rest of us *hehe, glad my husband is one of these!*

I suggest you look up the rate of gonorrhea in your area before you take what you can get.

My state ranks 17th.

My daughter had the sweetest guy (I'll call him Ben) in the world in love with her in high school. Ben's mother also thought that my daughter, Sarah was great. Would be nice to have a loving MIL right? But, my daughter was shallow and Ben was too fat to be anything other than a friend. Now, she's married to a jerk, he's so selfish -- AND he has gotten fatter than Ben!

Ben has a better paying job than her nasty husband and is still a sweetheart. I have no doubt he'll make someone a wonderful, loving husband. Last time Sarah saw Ben, she asked him if he was married. he told her no, all the good ones are taken. Ahh, the missed opportunities all because of a few pounds.

Enma3

My daughter had the sweetest guy (I'll call him Ben) in the world in love with her in high school. Ben's mother also thought that my daughter, Sarah was great. Would be nice to have a loving MIL right? But, my daughter was shallow and Ben was too fat to be anything other than a friend. Now, she's married to a jerk, he's so selfish -- AND he has gotten fatter than Ben!

Ben has a better paying job than her nasty husband and is still a sweetheart. I have no doubt he'll make someone a wonderful, loving husband. Last time Sarah saw Ben, she asked him if he was married. he told her no, all the good ones are taken. Ahh, the missed opportunities all because of a few pounds.

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I wouldn't be too hard on your daughter, afterall, it was only in her nature.

When it comes to sex, romance, love, etc. people's baser, animal instincts will always triumph over their better, more enlightended natures. Its in our nature and one of our single greatest flaws as a species.

Sounds like an argument for arranged marriage, LOL!

I am glad that someone pointed out that nature plays a role in teen sex. The numbers for the attractive girls are not that far behind the over weight girls having teen sex. We are just programmed that way. A few years of political correctness it not going to trump thousands of years of evelution. I am just shocked that it took someone this long to figure out what most teen boys learn by age 15.

Sex education goes a long way towards the prevention of unwanted pregnancy and STD's. However, it is not going to change the genes.

The rare medical condition aside diet and exercise is key to a fit healthy body. Exercise #1 the pushaway, push the plate away, then push yourself away from the table. This exercise is also the beginning of the diet. I put on 20 lbs when I retired in the first year, caught a look at myself in the mirror one morning and dusted off my weights and mountain bike and still have 5 lbs to go.

I know a skinny guy who hit his mother-in-law in the head with a shovel and threw her down a well. I know a fat guy who molested his wifes children. Maybe you should be happy with Ben.

oh oh oh, where did you meet these people?

Obviously, a very complex issue taken to oversimplification for a headline.

I agree

Here's one for you - people with a high level of confidence are less likely to be taken advantage of and more likely to be successful in a multitude of different circumstances.

I found it repulsive hurtful and unprofessional.

Awesome.

I agree.

would you rather give them welfare tax money and tax breaks for the kids that amount to you paying for them to live.

knoman -

I believe Philip Munroe was just trying to be humorous.

"Big woman gonna make a big man of me.... Get on your bikes and ride!"

Thanks JWL80, I searched the comment list knowing someone had to post the Queen reference.

That should be the title of the article.

This Just In:

Fat Bottomed Girls Do, In Fact, Make the Rockin World Go Round

thats because of our sick society who values bs like looks, prestige etc..
I'm glad its a temporary world.

Yes, our "sick society" - you sure never see anything even remotely resembling that sort of superficiality anywhere else in the animal kingdom. Nope. Never ever ever, not even once. The more 'attractive', fittest, best at building nests -- nope, never happens....

Bizzer, attractiveness matters to other species, (think of a peacock's tail), but things like building nests and controlling territory are usually a LOT more important. Remember, it's usually the males who do the courting and displaying; the females do the choosing. Even human females tend to value a man's "access to resources", aka wealth, at least as much as his looks. Consider how many women wanted to date Prince Charles before he married Di, even though he's the world's ugliest man.

What's "sick" in the modern world is that we've turned this natural imperative around, thinking that WOMEN are supposed to be chosen by men when it's the other way around throughout the animal kingdom.

America, you are over weight and it's shows like Glee that are doing it...

...What does Glee have to do with anything?

Yup

I agree in a way-hasnt anyone watched that awful VH1 16 and pregnant? Most of the girls are thin or 'normal weight' and still end up getting knocked up...sure self esteem has a lot to do with what you will accept, but high self esteem and skinny butts arent always correlated!

Casual sex "ain't" love and its only going to make the female feel worse.

its only going to make the female feel worse.

Right, none of those bar whores you see around actually enjoy their one night stands.

A lot of those "bar whores" are actually mentally messed up and most of them are still hoping against hope that a one night stand will lead to a relationship. Some are simply lonely; sleeping with a guy usually means he will at least keep you company for that night.

The in depth study I performed in the late '80's confirms your theory.

i bet you were in depth...

Only as much as was physically possible. No artificial enhancers.

It might be bunk in your experience but it wasn’t in mine. I found myself in similar circumstances in elementary school, but had a sort of ugly-duckling style transformation in HS. I realized quickly that I was getting plenty of attention from boys, but I had so much drive to do something with my life that I was cautious what I did. The last thing I wanted was to get knocked up and ruin my plans.

On the flip side, while I can think of girls who were “too fat to date” (in reality, they were mostly too timid to get any attention from boys), I can also think of several heavy girls who got roped into bad relationships simply because they were grateful to have any boy paying attention to them and/or didn’t believe they deserved any better.

It doesn't have to be weight, it could be anything about yourself that makes you feel that way. But sex doesn't equal pregnancy. They invented a pill for that 50 yrs ago.

That said, I find this to be total bunk. I was fat in elementary school and lost the weight by 7th grade. I didn't date anyone in school because I was so traumatized by all of the nastiness I had to deal with, it took me years to realize the guys flirting and asking me out weren't making fun of me.

FYI, just because you had this experience does not mean that it is representative of everything that is going on across the country. Perhaps you reacted differently than overweight girls do today?

@ kash-1557828 & ChickN - You're both right, the reaction depends on the person. I didn't mean to imply that there were not bigger girls, and even women, out there having sex to boost low self-esteem or because they were afraid they had to in order to have a boyfriend. I was trying to point out that it goes the other way too and everything imbetween. Weight is only one aspect of physical appearance. To me, this is as offensive as if they'd headlined: "Big-nosed girls likelier to have sex early" or "Girls with severe acne likelier to have sex early." Any girl is susceptible to being taken advantage of or engaging in risky behavior for approval. And bad and/or abusive relationships can happen to anyone.

As for the study itself, I still say it's bunk. I guarantee many other factors played into the results. For instance, in several psychological studies, they talk about victims of childhood sexual abuse being prone to both eating disorders (including compulsive eating that leads to obesity) and having a tendency to engage in sexual behavior earlier than their peers and being more likely to engage in promiscuous behavior (or the complete opposite). Based on this, can we say overweight people were more likely have been abused as children than thin people? Or that someone with anorexia was abused as a child. No, we can't. And that's the problem. They publish a piece of the story that they think will draw readers or influence views and allow the general public to see it as gospel.

@sunnybunny1269 - No, sex doesn't have to result in pregnancy and I'm very familiar with birth control. However, and I mean no disrespect, we're not talking about adults or older teenagers here. Many parents are horrified when their older children ask for birth control or they happen to come across it, how well do you think they'd respond to a 12 or 13 year old girl asking to be put on the pill? And that's if you could even get a kid that age to go to their parents or anyone else in the first place.

Why is everyone here focused solely on the "self esteem" aspect and not the hormonal aspect? Your weight affects the production of sex hormones, especially estrogen. If a girl or woman is anorexic or just very thin, she may actually stop menstruating. OTOH, overweight females produce more sex hormones and therefore develop earlier. The earlier a girl develops physically, the more likely she is to have sex early. It's really that simple. It would be the same even if we lived in a society that only valued Rubenesque women.

It is interesting that they define "having sex early" as having sex before the age of 13. This is not even high school!

From what I've seen, it happens more often than one might think. Growing up in the south, it was not unheard of to have a pregnant classmate in the 7th or 8th grade.

wow

This article pisses me off beyond belief. I am a virgin, and the way I see it, if a guy (or anyone) can't accept me the way I am they can go @!$%# themselves. The article might as well just say that overweight girls have little or no self control when it comes to sex, and will have sex earlier on, without protection. Well that's not true. I'm 20 years old and if I didn't know what self control was, then maybe the article would be describing me, but it isn't because I DO have self control. And self respect.

Um, the article is not saying that ALL overweight girls are having lots of sex. It is just saying that on the whole, overweight girls are more likely to be sexually active (and not use protection) than girls that are not overweight.

Moreover, just because you are a certain way does not mean you represent the entire population of overweight/obese girls out there. If you stop taking this as a personal attack just because you are slightly overweight, you may see that they offer some pretty insightful reasons as to why the study yielded these conculsions.

isis - And with your amazing self control and attitude, you might be a virgin until you die !!!

With so many teens overweight these days what is the real correlation? Is it girls who are overweight and poor or overweight and rich, urban or rural or what? Just being overweight doesn't seem like it would be a true factor in this...I bet there are other mitigationg factors...

Porkbver: That was rude and uncalled for. I'm not totally innocent, I'll admit that, but as far as having sex, I'd rather wait. It doesn't mean I'm going to be a virgin until I die. I just prefer to set boundries for myself for now. That doesn't mean you need to go around making STUPID AND IMMATURE REMARKS.

Damn skippy. You stand up for yourself lady!!!!

Who needed a study to know that? Any guy that's ever been drunk and horny knows that.

A nice little pudgy one now and then is fun. They are so more willing to please and when they lay down; it all seems to flatten out pretty well anyway. Nice and soft.

Just don't marry one. Cause then eventually you will get so sick of it you won't be able to look at her with her clothes off. Like a pumpkin with legs.

Rich girls can afford birth control and get away with fooling their parents into thinking they're not riding the bologna pony.....

I completely agree. This is about poverty and self esteem, good eating habits, availablity of proper exercise etc. I am shocked that the researchers aren't more concerned about girls younger than 13 having sex, at 13 I wasn't even ready to give up my Barbie dolls, neither were any of my friends, boys were just becoming a somewhat sorta interesting other species, something to be giggled over, but kissed, that was still in the "ICKY" catagory.

An 11-12 year old girl should not be having sex, taking birth control pills or anything like that. These girls aren't sluts, they are victims.

They victimize themselves. I agree that they should not be criticized but they start to pity themselves and become spiteful for the hand they were dealt. Nobody can change their weight except them.

Great. Let's start the whole 'poor me' victim mentality early so they will never take any personal responsibility. Then they'll end up on welfare and we'll all pay to support them and all their kids.

yes, they hate to admit that teenage girls are horny in mainstream media even today. america continues to be a backwards country sexually

LOL

You probably did!