I was thinking the same thing. This is NOT new. Cardiologists have known for years that poor dental hygiene can lead to cardiac disease and heart failure. Many people scheduled for dental work such as root canals will take a course of antibiotics before their dental surgeries to help prevent the bacteria in their mouths from colonizing on the cardiac valves. Basically, it boils down to common sense. Brush your teeth!
Associating unrelated statistics is what it's all about these days. Is oral hygiene good and healthful? Absolutely. Does the lack thereof have anything medically to do with a heart attack? Nope. Did you also know:
1. Those who use outside 'facilities' have a higher chance of contracting an STD?
2. If you're Black you are more likely to have HIV?
3. You are more likely to have a male child if the moon is waxing rather than waning?
All statistically correct, but all criteria ENTIRELY unrelated to the RESULT. This is what idiot junk science has become in order to obtain grants. I don't trust any of these idiots anymore. Doctors are notoriously BAD mathematicians and have little skill in logic and philosophy, (hint: statistics requires Finite Math and Logic to be performed accurately). Ever know a doctor who is a whiz in logic and philosophy?
An ob-gyn I know had a patient go into early labor at 7 months and an emergency c-section was performed. Subsequently she had total systemic failure and was on life support due to a sepsis infection from gum disease. She and the baby survived with no lasting damage.
or maybe they are putting the cart before the horse... it's like saying that people who have a bad liver are more likely to be alcoholics. How about people who don't brush their teeth regularily (dirty people) are more likely to eat unhealthy food and develop heart disease. Health eaters are also more likely to take care of their teeth.
rick is right, the heart bacteria infections where the mouth bacteria are found may be related to brushing habits/bad oral hygiene; but the most susceptible people are ones with other bad habits or genetics that make them more prone to heart problems. a healthy person with no other heart type issues and bad oral hygiene does increase his chance of heart issues; but as rick said healthy people tend to brush their teeth and someone who neglects their teeth usually also smokes,drinks allot and eats at fat burger for lunch and a buffet line for dinner with little exercise. If the person has a bad diet,lacks exercise, genetic issues, alcoholic, smokes,and perfect hygiene ...so what. the opposite of this is less likely
Veterinarians have been pointing out the link between poor oral hygiene and organ failure in animals for years, and its not because the animals are (or their owners) are out partying all night, smoking cigarettes, and eating fast food.
perhaps its what is causing the organ failure that is causing the poor oral hygiene problems. and not the other way around. diet does affect the animals hygiene, and most animals never brush anyway so what do they do differently to have good vs. bad hygiene? what ever that is may be the problem and not the actual hygiene itself. genetics come to mind. all this being said it is still a bad idea to not brush, it does cause major issues and i believe can affect heart health but i still say it is highly unlikely to be the only or main factor in a heart problem.
I just spoke with a medical insurance broker the other day. He says the Federal Government does not consider dental or vision care as medical necessities. I asked about the government workers and his statement was that they carry a little government ID card for life and get completely free medical anywhere for anything.
I work for local government, and I don't have one of those "little government ID card" that you are speaking of. Pepster is correct on his statement. :)
All I could think as I read this story was, somebody needs to remind these people that correlation does not equal causation! If they had instead done a study to see if regular brushing IMPROVED cardiac health, I would be less skeptical.
It's always this MAY do that or that MAY do this...then you begin to do what they say and a year later they say never mind the study was wrong.
Having said that I do that anyway and have heard dental health shows other bodily health like diabetes, smoking etc. which means if you have those you may have other deadly disease. Still, why WOULDn't anyone do that? Who wants to go to bed with a mouth feeling like an army walked through it or wake up with feeling like your mouth was run over by a truck. I believe it's the INFLAMMATION that is the issue. You can save yourself a TON TON TON of money if you brush and floss twice a day. I have heard no more than twice a day but twice definitely. I think maybe it's not good to brush multiple times as you can erode your gum....it's the health of your gums which should not be red and bleeding and the health of the bone underneath that saves your teeth and saves MEGGA bucks in dental repairs or periodontal disease. EXPENSIVO especially if you do not have dental insurance and even if you do. Dental ins. often STINKS
Yes, it's the infection by not keeping your teeth pristine true! And who wants their teeth to fall out so you look SO bad. I say look at someone's teeth and it can tell you a LOT and not only physically either...
I already knew about this years ago...my dentists recommended me to take antibotics as a pre-med before dental work or dental surgery because I have a patch on my heart when I had heart surgery 40 years ago. :)
This is not recent news. Might be another study but the correlation was noted years ago.
I was thinking the same thing. This is NOT new. Cardiologists have known for years that poor dental hygiene can lead to cardiac disease and heart failure. Many people scheduled for dental work such as root canals will take a course of antibiotics before their dental surgeries to help prevent the bacteria in their mouths from colonizing on the cardiac valves. Basically, it boils down to common sense. Brush your teeth!
Agreed. OLD news presented as new.
And completely forget the fact that people with poor oral hygeine had poor hygeine in general and dont really care what they eat.
Associating unrelated statistics is what it's all about these days. Is oral hygiene good and healthful? Absolutely. Does the lack thereof have anything medically to do with a heart attack? Nope. Did you also know:
1. Those who use outside 'facilities' have a higher chance of contracting an STD?
2. If you're Black you are more likely to have HIV?
3. You are more likely to have a male child if the moon is waxing rather than waning?
All statistically correct, but all criteria ENTIRELY unrelated to the RESULT. This is what idiot junk science has become in order to obtain grants. I don't trust any of these idiots anymore. Doctors are notoriously BAD mathematicians and have little skill in logic and philosophy, (hint: statistics requires Finite Math and Logic to be performed accurately). Ever know a doctor who is a whiz in logic and philosophy?
Ah, a voice of sanity here.
Did you also know that more babies are born under partial moons than full moons?
I suppose that, according to this study, if I start brushing my teeth 3 or 4 times a day my heart will actually become stronger and healthier. Right?
Also, people who don't brush their teeth at all decrease their chances of contracting herpes.
An ob-gyn I know had a patient go into early labor at 7 months and an emergency c-section was performed. Subsequently she had total systemic failure and was on life support due to a sepsis infection from gum disease. She and the baby survived with no lasting damage.
or maybe they are putting the cart before the horse... it's like saying that people who have a bad liver are more likely to be alcoholics. How about people who don't brush their teeth regularily (dirty people) are more likely to eat unhealthy food and develop heart disease. Health eaters are also more likely to take care of their teeth.
No, the correlation really is from bacterial infections. It's been studies and proven years ago. Nice try at making yourself feel superior, though.
rick is right, the heart bacteria infections where the mouth bacteria are found may be related to brushing habits/bad oral hygiene; but the most susceptible people are ones with other bad habits or genetics that make them more prone to heart problems. a healthy person with no other heart type issues and bad oral hygiene does increase his chance of heart issues; but as rick said healthy people tend to brush their teeth and someone who neglects their teeth usually also smokes,drinks allot and eats at fat burger for lunch and a buffet line for dinner with little exercise. If the person has a bad diet,lacks exercise, genetic issues, alcoholic, smokes,and perfect hygiene ...so what. the opposite of this is less likely
Veterinarians have been pointing out the link between poor oral hygiene and organ failure in animals for years, and its not because the animals are (or their owners) are out partying all night, smoking cigarettes, and eating fast food.
perhaps its what is causing the organ failure that is causing the poor oral hygiene problems. and not the other way around. diet does affect the animals hygiene, and most animals never brush anyway so what do they do differently to have good vs. bad hygiene? what ever that is may be the problem and not the actual hygiene itself. genetics come to mind. all this being said it is still a bad idea to not brush, it does cause major issues and i believe can affect heart health but i still say it is highly unlikely to be the only or main factor in a heart problem.
A lot of it has to do with your immune system............
I just spoke with a medical insurance broker the other day. He says the Federal Government does not consider dental or vision care as medical necessities. I asked about the government workers and his statement was that they carry a little government ID card for life and get completely free medical anywhere for anything.
Not all government employees have a "little government ID card", in fact very few do.
I work for local government, and I don't have one of those "little government ID card" that you are speaking of. Pepster is correct on his statement. :)
You don't always agree with me?? LOL!!
All I could think as I read this story was, somebody needs to remind these people that correlation does not equal causation! If they had instead done a study to see if regular brushing IMPROVED cardiac health, I would be less skeptical.
Who comes up with these crazy studies anyway?
It's always this MAY do that or that MAY do this...then you begin to do what they say and a year later they say never mind the study was wrong.
Having said that I do that anyway and have heard dental health shows other bodily health like diabetes, smoking etc. which means if you have those you may have other deadly disease. Still, why WOULDn't anyone do that? Who wants to go to bed with a mouth feeling like an army walked through it or wake up with feeling like your mouth was run over by a truck. I believe it's the INFLAMMATION that is the issue. You can save yourself a TON TON TON of money if you brush and floss twice a day. I have heard no more than twice a day but twice definitely. I think maybe it's not good to brush multiple times as you can erode your gum....it's the health of your gums which should not be red and bleeding and the health of the bone underneath that saves your teeth and saves MEGGA bucks in dental repairs or periodontal disease. EXPENSIVO especially if you do not have dental insurance and even if you do. Dental ins. often STINKS
Yes, it's the infection by not keeping your teeth pristine true! And who wants their teeth to fall out so you look SO bad. I say look at someone's teeth and it can tell you a LOT and not only physically either...
I think I saw a study once that showed that people who do brush their teeth twice a day have more incidences of ingrown toenail.
This isn't "news." My dentist told me this 20 years ago during routine teeth cleaning and checkup.
So I take it Jessica Simpson will be having a heart attack at some point?
I already knew about this years ago...my dentists recommended me to take antibotics as a pre-med before dental work or dental surgery because I have a patch on my heart when I had heart surgery 40 years ago. :)