Offering financial incentives to shed pounds may not work, experts say
Dieting for dollars? More workers trying it
Seeded on Tue Jun 1, 2010 1:45 PM EDT (msnbc.com)
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I'm already healthy and fit. Where's my money?
Agreed. Do I need to fatten up then drop back to normal?
If people want to be fat let them. If it kills them, it is their choice.
tired of silly, i would agree with your statement of if they want to be fat let them if we didnt have to pay for their poor choices, currently we have to pay for the overweights sleep apnoea machines, pills to combat the cholesterol, blood pressure and diabetes they have brought on themselves, gastric bypass ops, mobility scooters, disability payments for those so obese they cant even walk, ops for heart attacks etc, being fat costs the american taxpayer billions so until they are willing to take financial responsbility for their obesity maybe they should be forced to diet
I agree with Wakehead, what about those of us that already are concerned about being fit, that get up before work so we can work out, make sure we eat the right foods, care about the way we look? What do we get?????
My work offers things like this for the un-healthy population of the employees, nothing for those of us that take working out serious. Is that fair, I dont think so.
agree, all this taxpayer money is constantly wasted on getting fat people thinner, getting smokers to stop smoking, alcholics to stop drinking and drug addicts to stop doing drugs, why not give money to those of us who dont make poor choices and have disgusting habits? stop wasting money on those who make poor choices
I can see some people trying to take advantage of this when they're already in shape, or maybe they're already too skinny and need to gain weight. These people could hurt themselves, it'll happen if enough companies try this. Losing weight doesn't always equal health, there's a lot more to it than that.
Employers are getting away with too much invasion and control of the private lives of employees.
One major employer in my area uses an intrusive system of health checks on employees. If the employee does not show documented effort or results to fit the employers guidelines for weight, cholesterol, and several other issues, it reflects on the employee's performance evaluations and pay raises.
Since when did employers gain the right to employee medical records.
I wouldn't work there.....
Since we were forced to pay for health insurance!!!
SO employers actually care about workers now? CHa right, with all the American outsourcing these days, one could definatly say companies are cutting the fat.
For those who are already fit, you ALREADY received and are receiving your reward(s): higher pay, even getting hired in the first place, preferential treatment on the job, increased health and vitality and less need for medical care, longevity, higher quality of life, freedom from misinformed judgmentalism by others, etc.
If the focus of this program is on dieting, it will fail, because all diets fail. If they didn't, then there wouldn't be a new diet in the ladies' magazines every week, a new diet product on the market every day, a new diet tip on Dr. Oz every week, a multi million dollar diet industry going strong despite the recession, etc. The program would only work if the focus were on more exercise (particularly aerobic). The reason no diets work is they ALL cause muscle loss, which in itself slows the metabolism. Also, when calories are restricted by more than 500 calories per day, the body learns how to be more efficient in caloric use. These phenomenon both cause plateaus -- dieters are following their diets, but the scale is not moving. Only people who have experienced this first hand know it's true -- others always suspect the dieter is not following their diet. Most of the overweight women you see in America were good little starvers/dieters when they were younger and therefore have ruined their metabolisms. In order to lose weight once the metabolism is destroyed, a person must consume so few calories they will not get the requisite nutrition AND they will FURTHER slow their metabolisms (through muscle loss/wasting and through the body going into starvation/survival mode). I would venture to say, however, that most MEN who are obese are that way because of overeating, beer and inactivity (the exceptions would be men who have participated in several bouts of calorie restrictive diets in their past -- a rarity). But it's mostly WOMEN who have done the majority of self-sacrifice and calorie restrictive dieting - on the advice of TV shows, magazines and their doctors, and as a result have become obese even as they eat less than their thin commrades. That's why women who have never really dieted much but who are very active are thin. However, women who have chronically dieted, even if they exercise somewhat, are lucky to lose even 1 pound and are often obese as a result. It takes massive amounts of exercise (more than we've been told) to do the trick. The good news for women who have stalled their metabolisms through years of dieting is that they can finally lose weight with massive increases in aerobic exercise, even if they actually begin to eat MORE. With all the info in the media and on the internet these days, most women who are interested in losing weight are experts in what to eat and how to eat right (whole foods, not junk, chemical-laden synthetic foods -- even when they're called "diet" food). Assuming you aren't living on Twinkies and sodas, massive aerobics will do the trick. Am I saying we never needed the diet industry and it actually did us more harm than good - yes! All we ever needed to do was massive aerobics, consistently, and eat real whole foods. Of course, the more learned we are about things like good fats, flax oil, quality fish oil, worthwhile supplements and addressing conditions which might also hold us back ((such as slow thyroid, hormone imbalances (any woman over 35 needs all her hormones checked), lack of minerals, lack of Vitamins C and D-3, insufficient water, drinking unfiltered water with contaminants and chlorine (i.e., tap water -- I hope you now know better than to drink tap water), addressing estrogen dominance (by taking DIM and avoiding sources of xenoestrogens), avoiding excess sodium, sluggish digestion (the need for hydrochloric acid with meals and a bi-annual colon cleanse), the possible need for an annual parasite cleanse, and addressing excess systemic yeast which is called candida albicans)), the faster things will happen for us when we do those massive aerobics. Most of what the diet industry has told us is a lie. Eggs were verboten, now they're a miracle food (God could have told us that -- oops He did...). Let's get back to The Garden essentially and eat foods in their most natural state before being processed -- and aerobics, aerobics, aerobics. For women over 35, resistance training is also important a few times a week. Many have read The Schwarzbein Principal by Dr. Schwarzbein and her recipe books. This is an Anti-Diet basically, that shows the importance and benefit of eating whole foods. We have been sold a bill of goods when it comes to the diet industry. We can't sit down at our sedentary jobs all week and watch TV at nite and expect to lose weight on 20 minutes of exercise a day. Twenty minutes will NOT make up for a full day of sitting. Our lifestyles of convenience have brought this upon us. It doesn't require expensive machinery or fancy exercise gadgets: walking, cheap stretch/resistance bands, a thrift store Total Gym, and a thrift store exercise ball will do the trick.
Also, most of our jobs are sedentary, so our employers likely have CONTRIBUTED to our weight gain and so it's nice they are willing to contribute to our weight loss (through exercise). Participation should be voluntary, otherwise employers will be intrusive. All employers should offer free gym memberships, or an exercise room available to their employees where they can bring/use simple exercise equipment before work, during breaks, during lunch and/or after work.
Oh, and it would help if empoyers and co-workers would stop looking at their overweight counterparts askance with judgmentalism. For indeed, especially when it comes to females, THOSE PEOPLE SHOULD BE ADMIRED FOR ALL THE YEARS OF STARVING THEY DID IN THEIR ATTEMPTS TO LOSE WEIGHT, WHICH IS WHAT CAUSED THEIR METABOLISMS TO SHUT DOWN WHICH LED TO THEIR OBESITY. As if it wasn't bad enough to starve to lose weight and end up with the opposite result, end up with difficulty getting hired in the first place, end up getting paid less than those who eat more but are thin, such women should not have to also endure being misjudged unfairly by others at work who do not know the facts. Nature has built in a survival mode into our bodies which tries to counteract the results of eating less -- the diet industry has only made that phenomenon worse. Overweight women need to stop feeling "less than" or guilty for what they eat (which is probably much less than their thin counterparts are eating). They simply need to get moving - A LOT - and let nature work with their efforts, not against them.
Lack of physical activity is really all that is wrong with obese America. Once a person has become obese through years of starving themselves on every diet in the book, the only way out of that trap is exercise. Once their weight is down, however, they can "afford" to eat more liberally and slow down on the exercise a bit, but just about everyone needs more activity than they are getting.
Now that working women of America are armed with this simple knowledge, I suppose the snoot-noses at work will have to come up with some NEW criteria to judge others with, to create chasms and cliques with, to create differentiation and exclusion with ... sorry about that ... NOT!
The desire to lose weight has to come from within the person. $500 or $1000 won't be enough of an enticement if the person isn't ready to eat healthy and move. If people aren't motivated by the fact that they might live a few more years, not have to live on pills or inject insulin then $500 won't convince them. Some people just like to eat and eat. They don't care what they look like especially if they are surrounded by other overweight people. It's just normal for them. Normal to have or to eventually have diabetes or heart disease. We all make choices and it appears that the majority of people prefer to live the life they are living the way they choose even if that means they are obese.
Dollars for dieting-part of the deficit stimulus program? Don't give em ideas, they're on the biggest spending spree in history!
Whatever it takes to fight this overweight epidemic we have is great. I talk to people everyday that want to lose weight,and they need the money. So,I say Get Paid To Lose Weight is a wonderful concept because it works. What if I could show you how to get paid $1,000's to lose weight..would that interest you?