Well, maybe not rotten but certainly stoopid and ineluctably hobbled by too much testosterone.
No excuse for incidences of bullying, but other cases do seem the epitome of natural selection. Can't help thinking a lot of boys today would benefit from age-old solutions that redirect and give purpose to a lot of that annoying brain dead teen energy - Boy Scouts, community or school organizations. Heck, give 'em an old car or computer to rebuild.
hmm i do believe the nut shot was "popular" before South Park, even if they added their own term for it. I'm surprised the article didn't have a scathing endictment for shows like "America's Funniest Home Videos" considering they showed clip after clip of this same thing far before South Park. What about the show on Idiocracy "Ouch My Balls" or whatever it was called.
This ties in nicely with a long-term study that shows a plunge in "empathy" among college students since around 2000. The study had asked the same questions, such as "I frequently put myself in other people's places to better under a situation." since 1979.
The lack of empathy is a serious concern as empathy is an important social "glue."
Can things have changed this much in 50 years? You simply didn't do that sort of thing when I was a boy. Taking a hit to that region brings pain that literally incapacitates you.
The notion that this is "boys just being boys" is utterly absurd. Such a "sack tap" demands retaliation - AFTER the victim has recovered. There is no way this type of behavior can be excused, justified, or defended.
I'm still shaking my head as I write this. Stupid? Insane? I do not believe in corporal punishment, but I can tell you this: Had I found that my son was engaging in this behavior, I'd have knocked him on his fanny. This cannot be allowed.
Note to Right Wing Extremist: Please, get a vasectomy.
There is nothing new about sack tapping. TV, mass media outlets or some kind of social ineptitude didn't bring it about. Causing other males pain has been a part of male culture since the wheel. The only thing that's changed is the child's reaction, the attention from the media and the American parent's fleeting sense of responsibility over their child's personal life.
It's sad that we're turning to legal entities and the media to police our schools from bullying and to teach children values such as hitting below the belt is wrong. Shame on parents. Take in interest. Or I guess you can just search harder for daycare providers that instill a sense of decorum.
So monumentally stupid; yep, that's boys for ya! I think it's terrific! They just get dumber and dumber, but this way, they won't be able to reproduce more just like em!
First off, what is happening is a boy being molested! Any touching of privates by another person can be classified as such. That said it is time to prosecute the offenders! Maybe then the game will end? I never heard of such a thing in my youth.
when i 1st read this article, reminded me of when i was in middle school. after school, a boy same age as me, kicked me where it counts on my way to the bus. i calmly walked to the bus, set my books down, and went out and beat him so bad he was put in the hospital for 2 weeks. Told my parents about it, after the school called them, and then his parents had the gall to threaten to sue. Still, a game for idots, and perverts. To this day there are still male boys, in the toddler stage, that think it is funny to smack someone there, and for some reason when you look at the parents, they dont say sh!t....just the way the world has been turning for the past who knows how many years...
I remember seeing an episode of "Judge Judy" earlier in the year, where one family was suing another because of medical bills associated with a game called "sack tap". At the time I thought the game sounded odd with some closet homosexual undertones. Fast forward to this week, when I see this story and another on MSN and the Today Show, and I wonder what the hell anyone would be thinking, hitting someone in the groin?
Apparently young men like to do this to each other, and make video's to show on YouTube? Is this what our culture has come to?
By the way, "Judge Judy" ruled against the family who's son landed in the hospital, as she didn't think there was enough proof that the game of "sack tap" was enough to cause the boys injuries. I wonder if she would rule the same way after seeing this story?
The article states: " The issue was highlighted by news last week that a 14-year-old Minnesota boy, David Gibbons, had to have his right testicle removed after a hallway assault. “This is, in fact, a form of bullying,” Atala said. “Someone may do that without realizing the consequences of their actions.” "
This is NOT "bullying" or a "game" or anything but CRIMINAL assault and battery!
Charges should be laid regardless of the age of the perpetrator because they need to be sorted out and disciplined and damned fast.
Why in the HELL would some kid want to touch somebody else's balls anyway?
To bully and inflict pain. There are 43 States have anti-bullying laws under which this behavior would likely fall, so what are the schools and police doing about this? We're not talking about (in this article) those who willingly participate in this , as seen on youtube, but young males being attacked for "laughs". I have no sympathy for those who either self-inflict such injuries, or participate in such activities willingly (mimicking Jackass), as they were likely Darwin Award Winners in the waiting anyway, but to have your testes damaged for life by a bully, that is another thing.
A National Anti-Bullying law is needed, as every State law is different, and 7 States don't even have such laws. As we have seen in the past 15-20 years those who are bullies and those who are their victims have become much more violent as a result of these actions. bullies end up becoming violent criminals, while some victims end up so frustrated they bring guns to school and kill many innocent students and teachers before killing themselves (or simply kill themselves out of shame and humiliation). Bullying and Cyber-bullying has become an epidemic, and just as we would mobilize to combat a flu epidemic, so too must we mobilize to fight this one. Only when bullying is made not only illegal, but is shown to be against US values by getting teachers, parents, religious groups and the police involved in re-educating children and young adults that society will not stand for this behavior will this trend turn around, much as sex-ed did with teen pregnancies (until abstinence only came along and teen pregnancies and STDs ended a 30 year downward trend). Educate the students and the parents, so that when it does occur, parents can't claim they were not aware such bullying was occurring, and students (and parents) can be held accountable for breaking the law. The US is a country where the Rule of Law is paramount, and we need to start at home with getting us back on that track.
So we have teens now huffing compressed air, chocking themselves unconscious for a rush, pouring liquor up their anus's, and "sack tapping" each other...
hmm i do believe the nut shot was "popular" before South Park, even if they added their own term for it.
Roshambo.
"Let's play Roshambo. I kick you in the nuts as hard as I can and then you kick me in the nuts as hard as you can. First one to fall, loses."
"Uh. . .ok. . .?"
"Igofirst!"
So we have teens now huffing compressed air, chocking themselves unconscious for a rush, pouring liquor up their anus's, and "sack tapping" each other...
Don't forget about pooring vodka in your eyes, car surfing, and train dodging.
I don't mean to sound like an old person but I blame shows like jackass. Shows like that glorify this atrocious behavior. I mean honestly how dumb do you have to be to think this is acceptable? I swear it seems like the gene pool is becoming more and more diluted everday.
Perversely - it is to some degree the testosterone ITSELF which initiates this stupid and painful 'game'. South Park may very well be an animated show but it was never intended as a show for children or young kids. However, today EVERYTHING is on YouTube so even if you don't allow your child to 'watch TV', they all have access to the web in one form or another. Once again, education and vigilance is the only hope for parents. Certainly, it would be readily apparent if your son had testicular tortsion which is a surgical emergency. But if you have a quiet child, not prone to admitting the physical 'bullyiing', it might be less obvious. A father's careful inquiry and visual inspection would be helpful in determining any attacks. Personally, I would be suing the school, the parents of the attacker and hold them accountable for every CENT of my medical expenses in treating my child for such attack. There MUST be accountability else the 'lecture' falls on deaf ears.
By George, this is bullying and molestation! What are the schools and police going to do about this? Are you kidding me! There aren't enough police and teachers alive to deal with these perverse and useless hatchlings. Had I done this as a kid, my old man would have justifiably knocked me on my ass if the victim's father didn't do it first. I broke a kid's nose with a single well-delivered punch in school after he, without provocation, walked up and whacked me in the face with a textbook. We both got our butts warmed with a paddle in the principal's office. If as a society we're going to abdicate our parental responsibilities to and expect results from "the authorities", we're going to get exactly what we deserve.
Can things have changed this much in 50 years? You simply didn't do that sort of thing when I was a boy. Taking a hit to that region brings pain that literally incapacitates you.
Boys hitting other boys in the crotch was happening 40 years ago when I was in middle school. I can remember the pain as if it was yesterday. Something should have been done by adults to stop it then, and something should be done by adults to stop it now. Being on the receiving end from a bully leaves you with emotional scars for life.
Train dodging - hadn't heard of that one yet - you are very correct about Darwin.
There are videos online about it. Teens last minute run across the tracks before an oncoming train hits them. There was another one involving boats a few years ago. All I can remember is that they took the idea of car surfing and applied it to boating, which I have a hard time picturing.
The vodka thing I heard about over the weekend.
There was the Dayquill/Nyquill ban that happened in certain areas. Basically, kids bought the stuff and found out how to get high off of it. Some places wouldn't let you buy a package unless you produced i.d. Then you had the Cheezers, who found a way to get high off of canned cheese (they came after the Whippers, who did the same thing but used whipped cream cans).
Then you had the Cheezers, who found a way to get high off of canned cheese (they came after the Whippers, who did the same thing but used whipped cream cans).
I got carded when I went to buy compressed air and had to laugh when I heard why. It's one of those things that...I'm not sure if we should continue to require ID or simply attempt to educate and then thin the herd of people stupid enough to do it.
I'm not trying to be rude about it (or casual about life/death), but the fact is...if people are constantly doing stuff purposely that is known to kill them...I'm not sure if we should be stopping the behavior with 10,000 warning labels and hoops to dive through.
We can either breed up the intellectual ladder or breed down and by putting a host of safety nets in place, we are honestly dumbing down the nation (and more importantly, allowing parents to be less and less responsible for their children - leaving it to "society" to ensure their children's safety).
Cretins that choose to subject themselves to this idiocy are subjecting themselves to the Darwinian process of natural selection and should not be interfered with.
I think Congress should pass an emergency $100 Billion fund to teach men not to hit each other in the testicles for fun, and raise everyone's taxes to pay for it.
I must have missed something, because when I was a kid (both grammer and high school), I never remember myself or any of my friends hitting each other in the groin in some kind of "game." If there was an actual fight, then yeah, you'd see it every now and then, but not just as some part of idiotic "game" (I graduated high school in '86, just to give this a time frame). I first heard about this when my nephew was in 7th or 8th grade, when he told me he and his friends do it. I called him an idiot for doing it then, and now that he's 24, he admits that it was a stupid thing to do.
Thank God there's no draft...could you imagine having these mutants actually defending our country? They'd be too busy trying to hit each other in the nuts to actually fight the enemy.
Oh, man, Wendy Northcutt and the folks at the Darwin Awards must be having a field day with this BS.
This will end when the kids on the receiving end start showing up at school wearing steel cups, and some numbskulls break their hands trying to crotch slap a victim.
God, kids do some unbelievably stupid stuff these days!
no matter what people say, this is what happens when you have 40 years of a "liberal" society. The post that mentioned empathy was right on. But why is there little empathy now? that is the question.
My husband and I are in our early 50s. It isn't that long ago that we were in junior high, but I had never heard of such a thing in my life. According to my family, I tend to be a little naive about this kind of thing, so I just asked my husband if this was common behavior among boys when he was in school. "Of course not" was his immediate answer.
So, what happened? It's been 40 years since my husband was this age, have males changed so much in such a short amount of time? Do boys today not understand limits or consequences of their behavior? Really, I'm curious. This affects our future gene pool, who will our daughters and granddaughters marry or have children with? I don't think I want this kind of obvious stupid in my family.
I, too, am in my fifties (yeah, I know that's ancient history for some here), but I don't recall any of this kind of behavior. We had "wedgies," (pulling up the back of someones underwear so that it stuck outside their pants--now considered a fashion statement, but then a source of embarrassment) and "pantsing someone" (pulling down their pants--again considered cool nowadays to wear it that way) that was as far as it went.
But the whole culture of teens has changed. I recall walking down a high school hall some years ago and hearing girls friendly with one another calling each other "ho." If a girl had called another a "ho" when I was a student, the girl who uttered it would have received a black eye. The trash talk has been amped by the trash music videos, just as boys, in the spirit of "monkey see, monkey do," have appropriated the South Park "humor." (a right-wing cartoon, for those of you who want to blame this all on liberal society)
If this kind of behavior were pursued legally for what it is--sexual assault--I think it would curtail. What boy wants to have sexual assault on his record? If you think that is too harsh, then perhaps you should imagine what to call the similar behavior when directed against girls.
Well, this is worst then smoking. Running up our health care cost because people want to touch other peoples private parts. Its sick and twisted and we need a new law. We need to ban nut tapping in all 50 states and uhm lets arrest the perpetrators, no lets arrest the parents of the perpetrators.
There already is a law on the books: sexual assault. Your sarcasm aside, if you lost part of your body due to being attacked, I think you might want the perpetrators punished.
Let's get it straight - it's the victims who are at risk of losing the ability to reproduce not the perps. The victims aren't necessarily stupid. It's the vicious idiots who are left fertile.
Teenagers sure aren't known for their brains! I think it's a great way to acheive population-control----all the little idiots won't be fully fertile.....
Think about it--it's not the victims who should be removed from the gene pool, it's the perpetrators. The nasty perps are intact, they can still have kids. The guys who were ambushed, they're the ones who are in danger of being castrated by the doofuses. The WRONG KIDS are being taken out of the gene pool here.
Right, but it's not the ones who agree to play that we're worried about. It's the victims of these drive-by nut-taps. They're the ones who need defending.
These other idiots, they can remove themselves from the breeding pool with all haste as far as I'm concerned, and if playing this idiotic game speeds up the process, let 'em go for it.
just passin - can you read? It's the BULLIES AND their PARENTS who are to BLAME, not the VICTIMS. Get your 'Survival of the Fittest" knowledge in order. Impaired fertility? If only there were justice in this world, some vermin would have been aborted, or better, NEVER CONCIEVED: Hitler, Pol Pot, Mengele, ALL CHILD MOLESTERS, rapists, and killers, and the list goes on ad infinited. BUT, there IS no justice, so we have to get the job done ourselves, somehow.
Regardless of whether they consent to play or not, we're talking about assault with risk of grave bodily injury. This is not a case of "boys will be boys", this is violence and aggression playing out on the blacktop at school.
Its interesting that people would think this is a good way to achieve population control. What if it was your kid who got his balls busted? There go your genes, right out of the pool.
Maybe these boys are expressing their homosexuality. When I was a growing up, if a kid wanted to touch another kids testicles, that's what it usually meant.
No! It's not funny. It is assault. Rightwing and Doc57 are examples or what is wrong with society today. Because it does not affect them, they don't care. They actually think this is acceptable.
Back in the 80s, when I was in HS you NEVER would of thought of touching another guy in the nads. This is just wrong and these kids need to be prosecuted. If you have an issue, Stand toe to toe with them and punch it out in a fair fight.
No one person can speak for an entire nation of teenage boys. I graduated from HS in 1981, and we used to do this to each other all of the time. Hell, we were still doing it to each other for years after HS. No one was trying to intentionally hurt anyone and no one was seriously injured.
It is intentional. You may have been having fun, and you may have remained friends but the fact is it is intentional.
If you've been hit in the balls, and you experience pain from it, and then turn around and deliberatley hit someone else in the balls that's intentional. It's not as if you were going to hit them in the arm and your hand just slipped. You intended to hit some one in the gentials knowing full well that it would cause pain. That is indeed intentional. You may have had fun and brushed it off as friends just goofing on each other, and that's fine, but it does not change the meaning of intention.
Sheesh so many just don't understand the meaning here.
McPeter, nice little homophobe touch there. i guess you think all men touching each other is gay, so football, well all sports then must be gay...if you really think giving a sack tap is gay you need help. and wouldnt a "gay" man rather be nice to the nads? not inflict pain upon them?
and its not a hostile act, its ment as a joke, normaly done inside of a group of friends. and if you think this is just childern doing it, men much older are doing this on a regualar basis.
Maybe the insensitive jacka$$ doing the "tapping" thought it was funny and not intended to inflict harm, but from the recipient's point of view it sure as hell is. Invariably, the jacka$$es doing the "tapping" would get carried away with it and it always brought pain and hurt.
I went to junior high and high school back in the 70s and early 80s and this crap got the one's doing the tapping a fresh set of lumps and bruises. Worse if they did more than temporarily incapacitated the victim.
Having played baseball, football, and 2 seasons of soccer per year I had plenty of opportunity to recieve a sports related groin injury. I CERTAINLY didn't want some brain-dead jacka$$ with a warped sense of "fun" to target my nads.
Doc,you are seriously full of it.I know of not one man in my circle of friends, or acquaintance's for that matter,that go around hitting each other in the nuts.If that did happen,someone would be on the receiving end of a serious ass whipping.
Btw,in sports,they do not go around grabbing each other's junk.A slap on the ass is not considered gay,it's a sign for a job well done.
Friends messin' with friends, bullying, or otherwise; time to wear athletic cups year 'round. From what I'm reading, may need to wear them long after graduation!
Of course the act of 'tapping' is intentional, but there was no intent to seriously harm anyone.
Incorrect. The whole point of the game is to harm someone, to double them over in pain. Anyone who says it isn't is either naive or in denial. Sounds like someone has watched too many episodes of "Jackass".
A) While it is intended to cause pain its not intended to cause serious damage and B) I graduated recently and this rarely happened, it usually resulted in the attacker getting a black eye, chipped tooth, or a bloody nose. And if asked what happened, he fell. Its as simple as that.
"Sack-tapping?!" What ever happened to plain old wrestling? These kids need hobbies, and fast.
Simple, to lazy and just want to see him drop & suffer and they stand around and enjoy it. It is a quick way to watch someone suffer in pain and not break a sweat.
Hobby? Good Luck. Today's youth do not want to commit to anything. Anything outside of drinking, entertainment, cars, and sex; they really do not give a damn. And the ones that actually try to get a hobby are mostly the ones getting kicked in the nads.
Ever seen the famous 'facepalm' by Captain Picard from Star Trek (the image is easy to find online)? It's the same thing, but done in a different style. What is it called, though? The style, I mean.
Check - thank you so much. I just saw the full color image and yes, now I appreciate the point. Now I understand 'facepalm' having looked it up on 'Urban Dictionary'. We're never too old to learn.
Only a woman or clueless home-schooled male would call this bullying. Boys have probably always done this and probably always will. But, if you want to reduce it, tear down the friggin modesty closets. Something you see everyday is not that interesting.
rick if i hit you in the nuts hard enough to where you have to go to a urologist,possibly lose your nuts, cant walk for days,ect..... you would'nt think it was a big deal....huh?
Laws were designed for the lawless...Not the righteous.
More twisted sickness out of the minds of South Park, Hollwood , Calif.
This show is absolutely filthy to the core.
I guess our legislators need a new special LAW for the lawless and call it 2nd degree assault with intent to do bodily harm / reproductive health...another special statute that the defense lawyers can`t get or hide behind which would allow the victims parents to seek not only medical damages but civil liability as well..holding them accountable.
This whole act is so perverted and disgusting..the people who laugh at it possess the same deluded mindset, the bully...the perverse.. reprobate side of it,...the South Park mindset.
rick if i hit you in the nuts hard enough to where you have to go to a urologist,possibly lose your nuts, cant walk for days,ect..... you would'nt think it was a big deal....huh?
He probably would, he seems to be into touching other dudes nuts.
Bunch of homos who do that or condone it. It is sweaty man balls morons. Grow up. Go touch yourself if you feel the urge, queers.
"Boys will be boys" is just an excuse for condoning awful behavior. Who the phuck cares if it's been happening forever? Not a good excuse at all, it's a cop-out, and when people stop accepting the "boys will be boys" attitude is when things change. When people actually stop encouraging everyone to spout this stupid saying is when things will change.
"Pussifying", what an idiotic saying! Look, men have been "Dickifying" everything for so long that our world is in phucking bad shape. If we "pussified" more, women being in charge of most of the world, then I believe we wouldn't see half the wars, and justifications for everything like this would die and go away.
People who use this excuse, or saying, are not thinking very logically, the blood flow is going to the wrong region for clear thinking.
If a woman came up and nut-sacked some guy and put him into surgery for it, that wouldn't be any big deal right? Cuz after all "girls will be girls", and you wouldn't hold a grudge would you, or press charges? RIGHT!
HoneyBee, If girls ruled the world we would be worse off than we are now! And yes our kids are pussified! They think everything needs to be handed to them because people like youself! You probably allow your kid to accept a trophy or ribbon for something he/she did not earn don't you? See women are slowly eating the male genetic makeup away and making them ultra feminine. We don't need anymore winers and cryers we need be with some will power and values.
To those who may take this the wrong way I'm not trying to demean women but stating my oppinion.
HoneyBee, I unfoturnately have to somewhat agree with the extremist, even though I'm sure I hate a majority of his political beliefs. He wrote it horribly, but pure and simple our "everybody wins" culture is holding back the exceptional and making criminals out of good young men.
This culture does come from a feminist basis as everyone should be treated equally. Now, the beginnings of this thought was noble, but it has taken on a life of it's own to the point of wanting the government to solve all of our problems instead of children to learn how to deal with problems their own way.
And also, as a woman quit thinking you know anything about what it's like as a young male. You don't. I won't tell you what it's like to have to carry a baby you don't want, and you don't tell me what it was like to be 13. BOYS WILL BE BOYS, pure and simple, there is so much testosterone running through these kids veins that they don't know what's going on.
Will there be some casualties? Yes. But if the kid tattles or needs to go to get help they will be demonized by everyone else, and they will lose their friends. Most young men value loyalty among all else with their friends, and telling on someone for something that is meant to be a joke is not worth that. Should we illegalize young girls being mean to other young girls? This, IMO, hurts them more than the physical punishment young boys deal out to each other. I've never witnessed anything as horrible as the lies that were perpetuated about each other by the girls in my high school, lets prosecute them, right?
If women ruled the world they would only hold it until an aggressive male force took them over. Strength is still something that is needed in this world and teaching our children that weakness is okay and losing is just as good as winning is what will eventually lead to our downfall.
I don't subscribe to the "that's just what boys/men do" explaination - it's really what boys/men learn from those who come before them.....
Do you realize that there is an epidemic of men in this world who are incapable of true intimacy and addicted to porn/fantasizing/masturbating to the extent of causing themselves personal injury, divorce and financial ruin? Do you think it could possibly start here and with the attitude that it's just what boys do?
Boys have even been sexually molesting girls in school by practicing a similar act that they refer to as "camel slapping".......is this just what boys do? If you had a daughter, what would you say then? So why would you excuse it for your son? Does he not deserve the same respect and protection from his peers? Come on, men, do each other a favor and stand up for yourselves and eachother, your spouses and your children, your mothers, fathers, sisters and brothers and quit being so afraid to go against "what boys/men do" because, believe it or not, nothing is ever that much of a given.....break the cycle already instead of further contributing to the decline of our nations male integrity.
Any 'acceptable' activity which requires surgery, orchiopexy or worse, is an act punishible by law. Often called 'malicious maiming', it is hardly a benign act of 'hail fellow well met.' As a surgeon, I will tell you that it is a costly operation to the patient (the patient's family) and while covered by your insurance, is certainly a physical and emotional price (those of you who are FATHERS & MOTHERS) you would want your son to pay.
But, if you want to reduce it, tear down the friggin modesty closets. Something you see everyday is not that interesting.
I agree - we are too soft on boys these day and they're growing up to be wimps. It's completely different from when I was young and we were raised to be tough and act like men.
This type of stuff not only happened when I was growing up, but it happened all the time when I was in the Marine Corps. We'd slap each other, and sometimes soap-sock each other (FYI: this is where you hit someone with a bar of soap inside a tube sock). It's normal male bonding behavior.
Unfortunately, any time of normal male behavior today is targeted by the liberal, feminist crowd for elimination and as a result, boys don't get to be boys, and they don't grow up to be men.
We all know that this is no game since it is usually controlled by the "in crowd" to dispense their power over the wannabes, nerds and anyone else not of their "caliber".
When right wing dolts like rick, rwe and am tell us that the anti-social behavior described is just the way that it is and should be, it clarifies and explains why our once great nation is more divided than it has been for many years. There are the belligerent dummies that live by "might is right" because that is all they know and there are people that are Christians in name only since being popular is more important to them than standing up to wrongdoers.
Then there are real Christians or other normal human beings whom would not condone nor do such hateful acts that must stand up for victims by speaking out against the demented acts of bullies whether they are popular or not.
FYI, rick, I'm not female or home schooled, but unlike you, I have a brain that has functioned well enough to earn my diploma and degree in the allotted time back in the 60's when we did math in our heads and calculus with a slide rule. Lettering in wrestling, track and soccer in college, serving in the USAF as an officer during the civil rights era, volunteering and going to Nam, managing sports and recreation operations in communities and on military bases, playing rugby into my 30's and learning about and adapting to all types of people has tempered my mind and body into appreciating everybody for who they are. Even bigots.
Growing up a little guy, I had to learn to deal with bullies. Clue to people with brains: Bullies are dumb animals and cowards usually acting as a mob. If you show no fear, they wilt like the true pussies that they are. I'm not suggesting that potential victims physically fight back to deter bullies. My own remedy was usually a dose of swift pain and retribution that cured every bully foolish enough to mess with me. But, most potential victims do not possess the physicality to fight so they must use their intellect to prepare themselves for confrontations with bullies and for the ultimate solution. Tell them to their faces that you will report their sick butts to school authorities if their bullying persists. And then, do it.
Yes! Well put. Thank you George, from a 39 year old mother of two boys who is happy to know that prime examples of what a man really looks like is still out there to mentor other men in the making.
I am saddened by all the talk from addlebrained men on this forum who seem to think that the only way to bond as men is to play games requiring genital contact....where were their parents when they were growing up? Playing these sick games with them? I agree with your assesment that the agressors are usually the "in crowd" and the victims usually the people with morals and values that the other group erroneously view as weaknesses.
I would also like to point out that, though a small percentage of these attacks might be between friends and seen as play, any contact to the genitals/butt/breast area of an individual is most always considered a severely offensive breach of personal boundaries and has always been considered a no touch zone. If the offending individuals are not taught how to behave according to the laws of our wonderful country, they will end up in prison as adults as this is the system we have established to handle those who continually or grossly choose to cross the boundary rights of others.....
While George-421202's comments against some posters are popular with mothers and female anti-masculine activists, includes a long list of other masculine activities that would also be condemned by the same women. Consider that he lists rugby. Ladies, if you have a problem with sack-tapping, how about a concussion or broken nose in a fun afternoon of rugby?
George, weren't "wedgies" a part of your boyhood? How about "Grand Canyons" at summer camp?
Nearly all women condemn common boyhood games as needlessly risky and violent primarily because women have neither the courage nor the body strength to participate and thus do not understand the value. These are the mothers that would expect their sons to stand up and protect their families when needed even though these mothers have deprived their sons of exposure to the masculine culture that produces such a man.
Men know how to raise sons. Don't leave that to mothers.
Too bad that you have no clue as to the meaning of my comments, Vincent.
FYI: The article had nothing to do with raising your sons to be able to protect their families. Or that mothers (women) don't have the courage or body strength to play boyhood games so they condemn those games. And men know how to raise sons while women do not? What a crock, Vince! Btw, rugby games are officiated as per the rules and your attempt to compare rugby to sack tapping is so lame that I'll leave it there.
And, it's no Vince. By the time wedgies became popular, my boyhood was long gone. Had anyone ever tried it on me as a 13 year old, they would have had to endure a world of pain to make it happen.
All posters (male and female) that have spoken against this anti-social activity have done so because they are intelligent enough to understand all aspects of its detrimental effect on American society and to determine their opinion based on those factors.
But you and the rest of the macho cretins defending it (and all the chest thumping risk of male sports you may have once played) because it is all that uneducated guys like you have to maintain your fragile egos. Most blue collar working class men are there because they did not have the grades or the intellect to get into or stay in college. Some of you may have been decent athletes in high school before your beer bellies began to grow.
So now, you recall memories of your glory days as one of the popular kids in high school participating in the "masculine culture" which translates to you and your running mates shoving a prime victim's head into a toilet. If you don't defend the activity as harmless fun, you and your boyfriends may have to see yourselves as guilty of despicable acts that could have caused not only physical harm but also deep psychological trauma to your victims.
The sad thing is that the bully problem is so pervasive because dealing with it would confront offspring of prominent families in communities across America. The kids that are doing these horrendous acts to other kids are not confined to males. Girls can be the worst kind of bully because they primarily attack the delicate psyches of their female victims. There have been physical harm incidents involving girls though not nearly as much as the males.
And many of the predators carrying out these attacks come from the privileged "haves" of communities that are accustomed to getting their way because they can afford lawyers and are litigation ready at all times. They are usually the leaders because that is the nature of the beasts. They then allow other less privileged members of sports teams and cheer squads into their clique so that they can prove their allegiance to the clique.
The middle class of America can re-establish a safe environment in our nation's schools by demanding transparency and accountability by school boards .
What happened to the old fashioned wedgie, perhaps it is too easy now that the kids are exposing their underwear. While I don't agree that this is sexual assault, it is an extreme form of bullying.I hope this behavior doesn't catch on with the girls...what would they call it, snatch-tapping?
Wedgies are just as dangerous as a sacktap it can tear your @!$%#! A kid I went to school with had it happen to him and he wasn't being bullied he dished it out more so than others.
One term I've heard of when a boy slaps a girl in the groin is camel-slapping. As of today, I have not heard of girls doing this behavior to eachother, but I have heard that a punch to the nose was VERY effective in warding of future attacks by boys, and - BONUS- it seems boys won't go running to tell the principal they were hurt by a GIRL! Seems like a boy could use the same response/defense as I doubt the boy who did the groin punching would want to be discovered and therefore probably won't be running to snitch for being punched in the nose (which can cause pain, too, but not usually long term damage or infertility).
No .....i am not a lawyer, i am a grown adult man without a thirteen year old bullies mindset or an adolescent view of mind-numb humor.
From reading your ra-ra posts it`s understandable how degrading and de-humanizing acts get past down and taught from father to son, generation to generation.
a 1998 episode of the animated series “South Park” that popularized the painful practice
Please don't give the media more credit than it deserves. This is not an emerging trend nor a new fad. Boys in my high school were playing "bag-tag" in the early 70s. It was always played amongst friends and was not a form of bullying.
I'm really surprised that so many of the men posting here who see this as harmless aren't ranting about the homosexual undertones of this "game". So is this considered acceptable homosexual activity among boys?
People like Rick have a problem. I don't know what "probably always" means-statement to justify his own behaviour maybe. You might say the same about circle jerks and invoke the "modesty closet", (whatevet that is), to justify that sort of activity in public parks and/or school yards. I'm flabbergasted that anyone could condone and support this sort of sadistic behaviour.
Paul there is alot worse out in the world going on than sack-tagging you should be concerned about. Keep your blinders on and I think you will be ok in this "sadistic world"!
The idea of saying "there is alot (sic) worse out in the world going on than sack-tagging you should be concerned about" is so morally and ethically bankrupt, that it is beyond the pale. It is exactly like saying that the 911 terrorism makes bank robbery okay because it is so much worse.
After reading your 14-year-old polemic, I have decided you need to go on Ignore. Bye
So, who do we go after for the people jumping across train tracks the last minute? Or people pooring vodka in their eyes?
The idea behind the game in the cartoon is the fat, bigotted kid (Cartman) tricks people into playing the game and then quickly says he goes first, thus, winning the game. However, later in the episode, the tables are turned by a celebrity who already knew of the game that Cartman played on others and when Cartman goes to play against the celebrity, the celebrity quickly says that he would go first and launches the attack.
Even as the lowest points of humanity are depicted as the storyline in adult comedic entertainment, society has a responsibility to children to protect them from these lows and teach them to aim for the highs....As adults, we use these outlets as a funny way to vent about the idiocy surrounding us in the world, we don't actually believe that what we are watching is acceptable. But children watch us laugh and learn to believe it is funny and acceptable and emulate it.
Children do not have the emotional maturity or wisdom to recognize sarcasm. They are ignorant to the ways of the world - just try telling them something crazy like they can catch an animal if they approach it backward because the animal will think they are walking away and they will believe you, they'll try it!
We must teach children how to rationalize or they will do what they will with their child's brain and imagination. Talk to them often....we wouldn't trust them to rule the world, why leave them to their own devices?
“If you look at everything in our society, if you look at the reality TV shows, you seen an escalation of nastiness,” she said. “Our kids are only a reflection of our society.”
So true! that is why we as parents should do more parenting and less delegating the parenting job to others. Reality TV and most tv shows in general are a strain on many peopels values and common sense. That is why the people in general are so screwed up. I'm 28yrs old and can't remember seeing all this worthless crap that the kids watch and play anymore. Homosexuality, Killing, Sex, anti-Christianity, ect... are highlighted on tv anymore, ripe for the little minds of children to absorbe.
Yes, and saying "boys will be boys" is brainwashing children to believe that some things are acceptable, and encourages this attitude, and behavior, to continue.
As the saying goes "if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem".
Reality TV and most tv shows in general are a strain on many peopels values and common sense. That is why the people in general are so screwed up. I'm 28yrs old and can't remember seeing all this worthless crap that the kids watch and play anymore. Homosexuality, Killing, Sex, anti-Christianity, ect... are highlighted on tv anymore, ripe for the little minds of children to absorbe.
And yet you still think this game is harmless. Bit of a contradiction there, don't ya think? 28 years old, huh? Do you have any teenagers yet? How would you like to pay for the surgery to correct your 12 or 13 year old's testicular injury?
This happened to my grandson while in school outside of shop class. The difference was the two boys used a 2 x 4. My grandson managed to get the 2 x 4 away and hit one of the boys in self defense. But as we all know, all the kids were punished including my grandson. I think when it comes to self defense against someone with a weapon, the one defending himself should not be punished. If we keep this attitude up we will have a whole country full of whimps. You can't keep on suppressing the natural instinct of self defense,which is present in every animal on this earth, down the road it will cause problems. This attitude has been around for some time and I believe it might be some of the cause of PTSD. You tell a child all his life let the adults handle it and for 18 years they never defend themselves. Then at 18 they join the military and are sent to war. Now you are asking them to defend themselves after 18 years of telling them not to. And let me add this: Gangs and Bullies now have the upper hand. They can push a child to the limit and if the child happens to fight back they still win. Gangs and Bullies don't care if they are thrown out of school. I say give the kids back their right of self defense and end this madness.
Broken Saint - Good for you, we also taught my grandson self defense and believe it or not he could have really put a hurtin' on the other two. We also taught him self control for he only hit one kid and it stopped. I hate to think of what could have happened if my grandson had lost his temper. The Irish in us runs deep.
Back in my day, I had one clown try this on me. I beat his ass good and the school did nothing to me. The sack tapper got 3 wackes with the paddle and expelled for a week and that was the end of it.
lol there is no way hacks would be allowed anymore....no way would parents allow someone to physically and mentally abuse their lil angels......liberals have destroyed this country but good.
Any guy or kid that hits another kid or guy in the nutts is stupid and probably into that homo-erotic stuff. Seriously seek help. And Right Wing Extremist.. I wish in your case someone would have hit your dad in the sack.. you not being born would have been the greatest gift of the 20th century
Broken Saint - Punching another guy in the nuts or doing anything to cause them harm is not "homo-erotic". That would fall under the definition of sado-masochism. Do you and a few others here with inane gay comments really think that we gays will do anything as long as it involves a penis ? Causing harm in that area is not a turn on for me or any one I know. S&M is practiced by all types of people. Get it straight. (pardon the pun)
Broken Saint wrote "Any guy or kid that hits another kid or guy in the nutts is stupid and probably into that homo-erotic stuff."
It's a mild assault, and there is nothing sexual about it. Free yourself of the modern feminist view of the world. Male fighting is not homoerotic. When you send your kid to MMA lessons and they teach that a punch or kick to the groin is an effective method to disable your opponent outside of the ring, will you consider that to be homoerotic?
Have teenaged boys in this culture completely lost their minds? Stupid, stupid, stupid, and the "man" who said "let boys be boys" has completely lost touch his surroundings. Kids committing suicide from bullying and boys ending up in ER with crushed body parts are increasing by the day. Idiocy and "bullying" at its worst.
This is the culture of smaller families which means fewer boys in families. Since boys are typically favored, you wind up with a society where 70 percent of college graduates are women and boys act like this. Boys are spoiled beyond recognition.
Just when you think you've seen all the stupid things people do, along comes this. Are kids so impressionable by watching cartoons? Are we raising weak minded idiots? Doesnt anyone "think" for themselves anymore? Maybe Darwin was right.
Put teachers back in the hallways between classes and have the boys arrested if they take part in this practice and expelled for sexual harassment. It won't take many for this to stop. Since you can't get people to actually train their boys to be gentlemen instead of monsters then you have to do it punitively.
I agree wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, teachers don't seem to want to give up a much needed break, parents don't want to volunteer, and principals seem to have lost their willingness to hold students accountable in the face of parents who don't think their "villiage" should have a say in how they raise their children.
I recently experienced first hand through working in the public school system and being confronted by parents who were offended by their child having to do pushups in PE for disrupting class, and by my daughter's experience with "camel-slapping" and having a boy try to molest her under the science class table - even the local prosecuting attorney's hands are tied to some degree with these behaviors as it is often one students word over another's, backed by their friends who tend to water the whole story down and on and on and on.....
Prevention will always begin at home by involved, concerned parents educating their children throughout their childhood and into young adulthood. Sit down to dinner around a table together. If you can't manage this most nights, you need to shuffle your priorities! If you decided to become a parent, it is your highest obligation to be involved!!!!!!!!!!!!
There aren't usually enough teachers to keep the class sizes down to a reasonable number, so there really aren't enough to also monitor hallways between classes or at breaks. Also, many teachers work through their breaks with students who need help with their assignments.
I volunteer at my son's school to monitor kids during lunch time. For 700 students they have 10 adults to monitor (myself included in that number). That's approximately 70 kids per adult to supervise.
Another thing is that schools are really reluctant to call the police for anything other than a situation that requires mandated reporting. Fights and assaults at school do not require mandated reporting. Parents are also reluctant to call in the police, as they see it as a school problem, even though there are definitely laws being broken. Parents need to realize that their rights and responsibilities as parents do not end when they drop their kids off at school. If your child is assaulted at school, the parents have the right to file a police report, request an investigation and prosecution if sufficient evidence is found.
Major motivation: Almost every movie has the groin punch for laughs. Watch for it! Even cartoons feature a kick or punch in the groin. NO WONDER kids think it is funny and okay. Having been around a year or two, I recall when this practice began. Recalling John Wayne's eyes cross as he suffered the groin kick. It was classic! Real men can take it was the message. Movies teach bad habits. If we want to stop sewing up sacks, we stop incentive! Movies.
Petition the industry to stop this silly inclusion in all movies.
Warning, won't be easy. Groin kicks and bathroom humor are mainstay in all movies! Its called lack of creativity.
Meanwhile Liberal Lady, if you take martial arts, one of the ways to defend yourself is to kick the attacked in the groin. So don't knock the groin kick if it is used for defense.
Who cares. Let them keep it up. In fact, I think its great. The more damage they do the less chance they have to reproduce later. We don't need more of these morons on the planet.
If each moron was punching himself in the testicles, then I'd agree with you. However, the morons are punching other boys, many of whom surely want no part of this painful game and don't deserve to be hurt or made infertile.
the police need to be called with each incident. If not when it happens , later the doctor's and er at the hospitals must be made to report these as assults. the perpetrators need time in juvenille or prison depending on the age. regardless why they do the assult arrests need to be made.the judge can decide the severity and the punishment. then the parents will also take this seriously. i know some parents do take this seriously now but all the parents need to make this behavior stop as well as the taking of prescription and over the counter drugs. Kids get high, brains damaged and do bad things.
our culture is rotten to the core
Well, maybe not rotten but certainly stoopid and ineluctably hobbled by too much testosterone.
No excuse for incidences of bullying, but other cases do seem the epitome of natural selection. Can't help thinking a lot of boys today would benefit from age-old solutions that redirect and give purpose to a lot of that annoying brain dead teen energy - Boy Scouts, community or school organizations. Heck, give 'em an old car or computer to rebuild.
Whatever happened to a simple noogy?
hmm i do believe the nut shot was "popular" before South Park, even if they added their own term for it. I'm surprised the article didn't have a scathing endictment for shows like "America's Funniest Home Videos" considering they showed clip after clip of this same thing far before South Park. What about the show on Idiocracy "Ouch My Balls" or whatever it was called.
This ties in nicely with a long-term study that shows a plunge in "empathy" among college students since around 2000. The study had asked the same questions, such as "I frequently put myself in other people's places to better under a situation." since 1979.
The lack of empathy is a serious concern as empathy is an important social "glue."
Natural selection at work. If kids are stupid enough to punch eath other in the balls for fun lets hope it hinders their ability to reproduce.
Wow!! I think this whole thing is just so monumentally stupid it just blows the mind. 'Sack Tapping'? Really??
Can things have changed this much in 50 years? You simply didn't do that sort of thing when I was a boy. Taking a hit to that region brings pain that literally incapacitates you.
The notion that this is "boys just being boys" is utterly absurd. Such a "sack tap" demands retaliation - AFTER the victim has recovered. There is no way this type of behavior can be excused, justified, or defended.
I'm still shaking my head as I write this. Stupid? Insane? I do not believe in corporal punishment, but I can tell you this: Had I found that my son was engaging in this behavior, I'd have knocked him on his fanny. This cannot be allowed.
Note to Right Wing Extremist: Please, get a vasectomy.
Why in the HELL would some kid want to touch somebody else's balls anyway?
There is nothing new about sack tapping. TV, mass media outlets or some kind of social ineptitude didn't bring it about. Causing other males pain has been a part of male culture since the wheel. The only thing that's changed is the child's reaction, the attention from the media and the American parent's fleeting sense of responsibility over their child's personal life.
It's sad that we're turning to legal entities and the media to police our schools from bullying and to teach children values such as hitting below the belt is wrong. Shame on parents. Take in interest. Or I guess you can just search harder for daycare providers that instill a sense of decorum.
Maybe they should do it more, you know, culling the herd and all. The world certainly doesn't need more idiots in the gene pool.
So monumentally stupid; yep, that's boys for ya! I think it's terrific! They just get dumber and dumber, but this way, they won't be able to reproduce more just like em!
First off, what is happening is a boy being molested! Any touching of privates by another person can be classified as such. That said it is time to prosecute the offenders! Maybe then the game will end? I never heard of such a thing in my youth.
when i 1st read this article, reminded me of when i was in middle school. after school, a boy same age as me, kicked me where it counts on my way to the bus. i calmly walked to the bus, set my books down, and went out and beat him so bad he was put in the hospital for 2 weeks. Told my parents about it, after the school called them, and then his parents had the gall to threaten to sue. Still, a game for idots, and perverts. To this day there are still male boys, in the toddler stage, that think it is funny to smack someone there, and for some reason when you look at the parents, they dont say sh!t....just the way the world has been turning for the past who knows how many years...
Well, our culture does encourge tea bagging the loser, it's just an extension of it.
I remember seeing an episode of "Judge Judy" earlier in the year, where one family was suing another because of medical bills associated with a game called "sack tap". At the time I thought the game sounded odd with some closet homosexual undertones. Fast forward to this week, when I see this story and another on MSN and the Today Show, and I wonder what the hell anyone would be thinking, hitting someone in the groin?
Apparently young men like to do this to each other, and make video's to show on YouTube? Is this what our culture has come to?
By the way, "Judge Judy" ruled against the family who's son landed in the hospital, as she didn't think there was enough proof that the game of "sack tap" was enough to cause the boys injuries. I wonder if she would rule the same way after seeing this story?
The article states: " The issue was highlighted by news last week that a 14-year-old Minnesota boy, David Gibbons, had to have his right testicle removed after a hallway assault. “This is, in fact, a form of bullying,” Atala said. “Someone may do that without realizing the consequences of their actions.” "
This is NOT "bullying" or a "game" or anything but CRIMINAL assault and battery!
Charges should be laid regardless of the age of the perpetrator because they need to be sorted out and disciplined and damned fast.
I'm 62 years old and I don't ever remember anybody running around grabbing each others balls.
2 deleted, Right Wing Extremist! expressing an unpopular opinion:
Fine. Unfortunately, sandwiched it between two violations:
Several things:
To bully and inflict pain. There are 43 States have anti-bullying laws under which this behavior would likely fall, so what are the schools and police doing about this? We're not talking about (in this article) those who willingly participate in this , as seen on youtube, but young males being attacked for "laughs". I have no sympathy for those who either self-inflict such injuries, or participate in such activities willingly (mimicking Jackass), as they were likely Darwin Award Winners in the waiting anyway, but to have your testes damaged for life by a bully, that is another thing.
A National Anti-Bullying law is needed, as every State law is different, and 7 States don't even have such laws. As we have seen in the past 15-20 years those who are bullies and those who are their victims have become much more violent as a result of these actions. bullies end up becoming violent criminals, while some victims end up so frustrated they bring guns to school and kill many innocent students and teachers before killing themselves (or simply kill themselves out of shame and humiliation). Bullying and Cyber-bullying has become an epidemic, and just as we would mobilize to combat a flu epidemic, so too must we mobilize to fight this one. Only when bullying is made not only illegal, but is shown to be against US values by getting teachers, parents, religious groups and the police involved in re-educating children and young adults that society will not stand for this behavior will this trend turn around, much as sex-ed did with teen pregnancies (until abstinence only came along and teen pregnancies and STDs ended a 30 year downward trend). Educate the students and the parents, so that when it does occur, parents can't claim they were not aware such bullying was occurring, and students (and parents) can be held accountable for breaking the law. The US is a country where the Rule of Law is paramount, and we need to start at home with getting us back on that track.
I never had to wear an "athletic cup" but it seems like it may become a necessary clothing accessory for guys.
So we have teens now huffing compressed air, chocking themselves unconscious for a rush, pouring liquor up their anus's, and "sack tapping" each other...
Yes folks - these are the leaders of tomorrow.
God help us.
Roshambo.
"Let's play Roshambo. I kick you in the nuts as hard as I can and then you kick me in the nuts as hard as you can. First one to fall, loses."
"Uh. . .ok. . .?"
"Igofirst!"
Don't forget about pooring vodka in your eyes, car surfing, and train dodging.
Darwin is pleased.
Forgot about the eyes...yes, seems they're pouring it everywhere EXCEPT their mouths...
Train dodging - hadn't heard of that one yet - you are very correct about Darwin.
I don't mean to sound like an old person but I blame shows like jackass. Shows like that glorify this atrocious behavior. I mean honestly how dumb do you have to be to think this is acceptable? I swear it seems like the gene pool is becoming more and more diluted everday.
Perversely - it is to some degree the testosterone ITSELF which initiates this stupid and painful 'game'. South Park may very well be an animated show but it was never intended as a show for children or young kids. However, today EVERYTHING is on YouTube so even if you don't allow your child to 'watch TV', they all have access to the web in one form or another. Once again, education and vigilance is the only hope for parents. Certainly, it would be readily apparent if your son had testicular tortsion which is a surgical emergency. But if you have a quiet child, not prone to admitting the physical 'bullyiing', it might be less obvious. A father's careful inquiry and visual inspection would be helpful in determining any attacks. Personally, I would be suing the school, the parents of the attacker and hold them accountable for every CENT of my medical expenses in treating my child for such attack. There MUST be accountability else the 'lecture' falls on deaf ears.
By George, this is bullying and molestation! What are the schools and police going to do about this? Are you kidding me! There aren't enough police and teachers alive to deal with these perverse and useless hatchlings. Had I done this as a kid, my old man would have justifiably knocked me on my ass if the victim's father didn't do it first. I broke a kid's nose with a single well-delivered punch in school after he, without provocation, walked up and whacked me in the face with a textbook. We both got our butts warmed with a paddle in the principal's office. If as a society we're going to abdicate our parental responsibilities to and expect results from "the authorities", we're going to get exactly what we deserve.
Boys hitting other boys in the crotch was happening 40 years ago when I was in middle school. I can remember the pain as if it was yesterday. Something should have been done by adults to stop it then, and something should be done by adults to stop it now. Being on the receiving end from a bully leaves you with emotional scars for life.
There are videos online about it. Teens last minute run across the tracks before an oncoming train hits them. There was another one involving boats a few years ago. All I can remember is that they took the idea of car surfing and applied it to boating, which I have a hard time picturing.
The vodka thing I heard about over the weekend.
There was the Dayquill/Nyquill ban that happened in certain areas. Basically, kids bought the stuff and found out how to get high off of it. Some places wouldn't let you buy a package unless you produced i.d. Then you had the Cheezers, who found a way to get high off of canned cheese (they came after the Whippers, who did the same thing but used whipped cream cans).
I got carded when I went to buy compressed air and had to laugh when I heard why. It's one of those things that...I'm not sure if we should continue to require ID or simply attempt to educate and then thin the herd of people stupid enough to do it.
I'm not trying to be rude about it (or casual about life/death), but the fact is...if people are constantly doing stuff purposely that is known to kill them...I'm not sure if we should be stopping the behavior with 10,000 warning labels and hoops to dive through.
We can either breed up the intellectual ladder or breed down and by putting a host of safety nets in place, we are honestly dumbing down the nation (and more importantly, allowing parents to be less and less responsible for their children - leaving it to "society" to ensure their children's safety).
Cretins that choose to subject themselves to this idiocy are subjecting themselves to the Darwinian process of natural selection and should not be interfered with.
I think Congress should pass an emergency $100 Billion fund to teach men not to hit each other in the testicles for fun, and raise everyone's taxes to pay for it.
This HAS to stop!!!
I must have missed something, because when I was a kid (both grammer and high school), I never remember myself or any of my friends hitting each other in the groin in some kind of "game." If there was an actual fight, then yeah, you'd see it every now and then, but not just as some part of idiotic "game" (I graduated high school in '86, just to give this a time frame). I first heard about this when my nephew was in 7th or 8th grade, when he told me he and his friends do it. I called him an idiot for doing it then, and now that he's 24, he admits that it was a stupid thing to do.
Thank God there's no draft...could you imagine having these mutants actually defending our country? They'd be too busy trying to hit each other in the nuts to actually fight the enemy.
Oh, man, Wendy Northcutt and the folks at the Darwin Awards must be having a field day with this BS.
This will end when the kids on the receiving end start showing up at school wearing steel cups, and some numbskulls break their hands trying to crotch slap a victim.
God, kids do some unbelievably stupid stuff these days!
no matter what people say, this is what happens when you have 40 years of a "liberal" society. The post that mentioned empathy was right on. But why is there little empathy now? that is the question.
My husband and I are in our early 50s. It isn't that long ago that we were in junior high, but I had never heard of such a thing in my life. According to my family, I tend to be a little naive about this kind of thing, so I just asked my husband if this was common behavior among boys when he was in school. "Of course not" was his immediate answer.
So, what happened? It's been 40 years since my husband was this age, have males changed so much in such a short amount of time? Do boys today not understand limits or consequences of their behavior? Really, I'm curious. This affects our future gene pool, who will our daughters and granddaughters marry or have children with? I don't think I want this kind of obvious stupid in my family.
I, too, am in my fifties (yeah, I know that's ancient history for some here), but I don't recall any of this kind of behavior. We had "wedgies," (pulling up the back of someones underwear so that it stuck outside their pants--now considered a fashion statement, but then a source of embarrassment) and "pantsing someone" (pulling down their pants--again considered cool nowadays to wear it that way) that was as far as it went.
But the whole culture of teens has changed. I recall walking down a high school hall some years ago and hearing girls friendly with one another calling each other "ho." If a girl had called another a "ho" when I was a student, the girl who uttered it would have received a black eye. The trash talk has been amped by the trash music videos, just as boys, in the spirit of "monkey see, monkey do," have appropriated the South Park "humor." (a right-wing cartoon, for those of you who want to blame this all on liberal society)
If this kind of behavior were pursued legally for what it is--sexual assault--I think it would curtail. What boy wants to have sexual assault on his record? If you think that is too harsh, then perhaps you should imagine what to call the similar behavior when directed against girls.
Well, this is worst then smoking. Running up our health care cost because people want to touch other peoples private parts. Its sick and twisted and we need a new law. We need to ban nut tapping in all 50 states and uhm lets arrest the perpetrators, no lets arrest the parents of the perpetrators.
Indeed...
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There already is a law on the books: sexual assault. Your sarcasm aside, if you lost part of your body due to being attacked, I think you might want the perpetrators punished.
Darwin was wrong. Survival of the fittest? We are getting stupider as a species.
Let's get it straight - it's the victims who are at risk of losing the ability to reproduce not the perps. The victims aren't necessarily stupid. It's the vicious idiots who are left fertile.
Only a child or a childlike mentality would view this as a "game".
lol! That was such a fun game in highschool
Teenagers sure aren't known for their brains! I think it's a great way to acheive population-control----all the little idiots won't be fully fertile.....
Think about it--it's not the victims who should be removed from the gene pool, it's the perpetrators. The nasty perps are intact, they can still have kids. The guys who were ambushed, they're the ones who are in danger of being castrated by the doofuses. The WRONG KIDS are being taken out of the gene pool here.
If someone is attacked, it's one thing. If someone agrees to playing this game, then Darwin is pleased if at least one of them becomes infertile.
Right, but it's not the ones who agree to play that we're worried about. It's the victims of these drive-by nut-taps. They're the ones who need defending.
These other idiots, they can remove themselves from the breeding pool with all haste as far as I'm concerned, and if playing this idiotic game speeds up the process, let 'em go for it.
just passin - can you read? It's the BULLIES AND their PARENTS who are to BLAME, not the VICTIMS. Get your 'Survival of the Fittest" knowledge in order. Impaired fertility? If only there were justice in this world, some vermin would have been aborted, or better, NEVER CONCIEVED: Hitler, Pol Pot, Mengele, ALL CHILD MOLESTERS, rapists, and killers, and the list goes on ad infinited. BUT, there IS no justice, so we have to get the job done ourselves, somehow.
Regardless of whether they consent to play or not, we're talking about assault with risk of grave bodily injury. This is not a case of "boys will be boys", this is violence and aggression playing out on the blacktop at school.
Its interesting that people would think this is a good way to achieve population control. What if it was your kid who got his balls busted? There go your genes, right out of the pool.
It's similar to a fist fight. Mild assault has been an important element of boy culture for all of time.
Great bonding experience, huh?
Sorry, that's just ridiculous.
Perhaps the boys should just get together and talk about their feelings in great detail.
Maybe these boys are expressing their homosexuality. When I was a growing up, if a kid wanted to touch another kids testicles, that's what it usually meant.
How any boy could do this to another boy is un-thinkable. Hurts hurts hurts......
the answer is very VERY simple...its funny as hell.
No! It's not funny. It is assault. Rightwing and Doc57 are examples or what is wrong with society today. Because it does not affect them, they don't care. They actually think this is acceptable.
Back in the 80s, when I was in HS you NEVER would of thought of touching another guy in the nads. This is just wrong and these kids need to be prosecuted. If you have an issue, Stand toe to toe with them and punch it out in a fair fight.
GIF,
No one person can speak for an entire nation of teenage boys. I graduated from HS in 1981, and we used to do this to each other all of the time. Hell, we were still doing it to each other for years after HS. No one was trying to intentionally hurt anyone and no one was seriously injured.
Were we just lucky? Maybe.
And GAY. Fag.
It is intentional. You may have been having fun, and you may have remained friends but the fact is it is intentional.
If you've been hit in the balls, and you experience pain from it, and then turn around and deliberatley hit someone else in the balls that's intentional. It's not as if you were going to hit them in the arm and your hand just slipped. You intended to hit some one in the gentials knowing full well that it would cause pain. That is indeed intentional. You may have had fun and brushed it off as friends just goofing on each other, and that's fine, but it does not change the meaning of intention.
Sheesh so many just don't understand the meaning here.
You offer nothing but semantics.
Of course the act of 'tapping' is intentional, but there was no intent to seriously harm anyone.
McPeter, nice little homophobe touch there. i guess you think all men touching each other is gay, so football, well all sports then must be gay...if you really think giving a sack tap is gay you need help. and wouldnt a "gay" man rather be nice to the nads? not inflict pain upon them?
and its not a hostile act, its ment as a joke, normaly done inside of a group of friends. and if you think this is just childern doing it, men much older are doing this on a regualar basis.
Maybe the insensitive jacka$$ doing the "tapping" thought it was funny and not intended to inflict harm, but from the recipient's point of view it sure as hell is. Invariably, the jacka$$es doing the "tapping" would get carried away with it and it always brought pain and hurt.
I went to junior high and high school back in the 70s and early 80s and this crap got the one's doing the tapping a fresh set of lumps and bruises. Worse if they did more than temporarily incapacitated the victim.
Having played baseball, football, and 2 seasons of soccer per year I had plenty of opportunity to recieve a sports related groin injury. I CERTAINLY didn't want some brain-dead jacka$$ with a warped sense of "fun" to target my nads.
Doc,you are seriously full of it.I know of not one man in my circle of friends, or acquaintance's for that matter,that go around hitting each other in the nuts.If that did happen,someone would be on the receiving end of a serious ass whipping.
Btw,in sports,they do not go around grabbing each other's junk.A slap on the ass is not considered gay,it's a sign for a job well done.
Friends messin' with friends, bullying, or otherwise; time to wear athletic cups year 'round. From what I'm reading, may need to wear them long after graduation!
Cut it out, McPeterGriffin. You're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
Incorrect. The whole point of the game is to harm someone, to double them over in pain. Anyone who says it isn't is either naive or in denial. Sounds like someone has watched too many episodes of "Jackass".
A) While it is intended to cause pain its not intended to cause serious damage and B) I graduated recently and this rarely happened, it usually resulted in the attacker getting a black eye, chipped tooth, or a bloody nose. And if asked what happened, he fell. Its as simple as that.
"Sack-tapping?!" What ever happened to plain old wrestling? These kids need hobbies, and fast.
Yeah, it's a little odd. Teabagging sleeping classmates on bus trips was what bros were doing when I was in high school.
I avoided any testicle-based male acceptance rituals. A good headlock or shoulder punch was good enough for my ancestors, good enough for me.
I'm sure you remember the "i can hit softest game...always ending up where someone taps, the other thumps.
But yeah...the male groin was no where I was anxious to grab, smack, lay in another guys forehead or whatever else they're doing with them today.
The more I read in the news, the more I realize how truly old I am at 39 years of age...
Simple, to lazy and just want to see him drop & suffer and they stand around and enjoy it. It is a quick way to watch someone suffer in pain and not break a sweat.
Hobby? Good Luck. Today's youth do not want to commit to anything. Anything outside of drinking, entertainment, cars, and sex; they really do not give a damn. And the ones that actually try to get a hobby are mostly the ones getting kicked in the nads.
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Jason, consider it stolen yet again. It is just sooooo eloquent.
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I have impaired vision (mac degen) what is it?
"I have impaired vision (mac degen) what is it?"
Ever seen the famous 'facepalm' by Captain Picard from Star Trek (the image is easy to find online)? It's the same thing, but done in a different style. What is it called, though? The style, I mean.
Check - thank you so much. I just saw the full color image and yes, now I appreciate the point. Now I understand 'facepalm' having looked it up on 'Urban Dictionary'. We're never too old to learn.
ASCII-art.
Only a woman or clueless home-schooled male would call this bullying. Boys have probably always done this and probably always will. But, if you want to reduce it, tear down the friggin modesty closets. Something you see everyday is not that interesting.
Thank you!
rick if i hit you in the nuts hard enough to where you have to go to a urologist,possibly lose your nuts, cant walk for days,ect..... you would'nt think it was a big deal....huh?
Laws were designed for the lawless...Not the righteous.
More twisted sickness out of the minds of South Park, Hollwood , Calif.
This show is absolutely filthy to the core.
I guess our legislators need a new special LAW for the lawless and call it 2nd degree assault with intent to do bodily harm / reproductive health...another special statute that the defense lawyers can`t get or hide behind which would allow the victims parents to seek not only medical damages but civil liability as well..holding them accountable.
This whole act is so perverted and disgusting..the people who laugh at it possess the same deluded mindset, the bully...the perverse.. reprobate side of it,...the South Park mindset.
Blackbriar, your reading to much into this, as stated by many. You must be a lawyer!
He probably would, he seems to be into touching other dudes nuts.
Bunch of homos who do that or condone it. It is sweaty man balls morons. Grow up. Go touch yourself if you feel the urge, queers.
"Boys will be boys" is just an excuse for condoning awful behavior. Who the phuck cares if it's been happening forever? Not a good excuse at all, it's a cop-out, and when people stop accepting the "boys will be boys" attitude is when things change. When people actually stop encouraging everyone to spout this stupid saying is when things will change.
"Pussifying", what an idiotic saying! Look, men have been "Dickifying" everything for so long that our world is in phucking bad shape. If we "pussified" more, women being in charge of most of the world, then I believe we wouldn't see half the wars, and justifications for everything like this would die and go away.
People who use this excuse, or saying, are not thinking very logically, the blood flow is going to the wrong region for clear thinking.
If a woman came up and nut-sacked some guy and put him into surgery for it, that wouldn't be any big deal right? Cuz after all "girls will be girls", and you wouldn't hold a grudge would you, or press charges? RIGHT!
Totally asinine!!!
HoneyBee, If girls ruled the world we would be worse off than we are now! And yes our kids are pussified! They think everything needs to be handed to them because people like youself! You probably allow your kid to accept a trophy or ribbon for something he/she did not earn don't you? See women are slowly eating the male genetic makeup away and making them ultra feminine. We don't need anymore winers and cryers we need be with some will power and values.
To those who may take this the wrong way I'm not trying to demean women but stating my oppinion.
You can have your opinion, but the world would still be better off. Your just scared to share the power.
It's not a value to accept demoralizing behavior and pass it off as just being boys. That's idiotic reasoning.
Marry a man and have his baby if woman so disgust you.
HoneyBee, I unfoturnately have to somewhat agree with the extremist, even though I'm sure I hate a majority of his political beliefs. He wrote it horribly, but pure and simple our "everybody wins" culture is holding back the exceptional and making criminals out of good young men.
This culture does come from a feminist basis as everyone should be treated equally. Now, the beginnings of this thought was noble, but it has taken on a life of it's own to the point of wanting the government to solve all of our problems instead of children to learn how to deal with problems their own way.
And also, as a woman quit thinking you know anything about what it's like as a young male. You don't. I won't tell you what it's like to have to carry a baby you don't want, and you don't tell me what it was like to be 13. BOYS WILL BE BOYS, pure and simple, there is so much testosterone running through these kids veins that they don't know what's going on.
Will there be some casualties? Yes. But if the kid tattles or needs to go to get help they will be demonized by everyone else, and they will lose their friends. Most young men value loyalty among all else with their friends, and telling on someone for something that is meant to be a joke is not worth that. Should we illegalize young girls being mean to other young girls? This, IMO, hurts them more than the physical punishment young boys deal out to each other. I've never witnessed anything as horrible as the lies that were perpetuated about each other by the girls in my high school, lets prosecute them, right?
If women ruled the world they would only hold it until an aggressive male force took them over. Strength is still something that is needed in this world and teaching our children that weakness is okay and losing is just as good as winning is what will eventually lead to our downfall.
McPeter plays "sack tap" with his chin and is epic at it.
I don't subscribe to the "that's just what boys/men do" explaination - it's really what boys/men learn from those who come before them.....
Do you realize that there is an epidemic of men in this world who are incapable of true intimacy and addicted to porn/fantasizing/masturbating to the extent of causing themselves personal injury, divorce and financial ruin? Do you think it could possibly start here and with the attitude that it's just what boys do?
Boys have even been sexually molesting girls in school by practicing a similar act that they refer to as "camel slapping".......is this just what boys do? If you had a daughter, what would you say then? So why would you excuse it for your son? Does he not deserve the same respect and protection from his peers? Come on, men, do each other a favor and stand up for yourselves and eachother, your spouses and your children, your mothers, fathers, sisters and brothers and quit being so afraid to go against "what boys/men do" because, believe it or not, nothing is ever that much of a given.....break the cycle already instead of further contributing to the decline of our nations male integrity.
You deserve it.
Any 'acceptable' activity which requires surgery, orchiopexy or worse, is an act punishible by law. Often called 'malicious maiming', it is hardly a benign act of 'hail fellow well met.' As a surgeon, I will tell you that it is a costly operation to the patient (the patient's family) and while covered by your insurance, is certainly a physical and emotional price (those of you who are FATHERS & MOTHERS) you would want your son to pay.
I agree - we are too soft on boys these day and they're growing up to be wimps. It's completely different from when I was young and we were raised to be tough and act like men.
This type of stuff not only happened when I was growing up, but it happened all the time when I was in the Marine Corps. We'd slap each other, and sometimes soap-sock each other (FYI: this is where you hit someone with a bar of soap inside a tube sock). It's normal male bonding behavior.
Unfortunately, any time of normal male behavior today is targeted by the liberal, feminist crowd for elimination and as a result, boys don't get to be boys, and they don't grow up to be men.
We all know that this is no game since it is usually controlled by the "in crowd" to dispense their power over the wannabes, nerds and anyone else not of their "caliber".
When right wing dolts like rick, rwe and am tell us that the anti-social behavior described is just the way that it is and should be, it clarifies and explains why our once great nation is more divided than it has been for many years. There are the belligerent dummies that live by "might is right" because that is all they know and there are people that are Christians in name only since being popular is more important to them than standing up to wrongdoers.
Then there are real Christians or other normal human beings whom would not condone nor do such hateful acts that must stand up for victims by speaking out against the demented acts of bullies whether they are popular or not.
FYI, rick, I'm not female or home schooled, but unlike you, I have a brain that has functioned well enough to earn my diploma and degree in the allotted time back in the 60's when we did math in our heads and calculus with a slide rule. Lettering in wrestling, track and soccer in college, serving in the USAF as an officer during the civil rights era, volunteering and going to Nam, managing sports and recreation operations in communities and on military bases, playing rugby into my 30's and learning about and adapting to all types of people has tempered my mind and body into appreciating everybody for who they are. Even bigots.
Growing up a little guy, I had to learn to deal with bullies. Clue to people with brains: Bullies are dumb animals and cowards usually acting as a mob. If you show no fear, they wilt like the true pussies that they are. I'm not suggesting that potential victims physically fight back to deter bullies. My own remedy was usually a dose of swift pain and retribution that cured every bully foolish enough to mess with me. But, most potential victims do not possess the physicality to fight so they must use their intellect to prepare themselves for confrontations with bullies and for the ultimate solution. Tell them to their faces that you will report their sick butts to school authorities if their bullying persists. And then, do it.
Yes! Well put. Thank you George, from a 39 year old mother of two boys who is happy to know that prime examples of what a man really looks like is still out there to mentor other men in the making.
I am saddened by all the talk from addlebrained men on this forum who seem to think that the only way to bond as men is to play games requiring genital contact....where were their parents when they were growing up? Playing these sick games with them? I agree with your assesment that the agressors are usually the "in crowd" and the victims usually the people with morals and values that the other group erroneously view as weaknesses.
I would also like to point out that, though a small percentage of these attacks might be between friends and seen as play, any contact to the genitals/butt/breast area of an individual is most always considered a severely offensive breach of personal boundaries and has always been considered a no touch zone. If the offending individuals are not taught how to behave according to the laws of our wonderful country, they will end up in prison as adults as this is the system we have established to handle those who continually or grossly choose to cross the boundary rights of others.....
We're too soft on boys so the answer is to let them wail on each other's balls?
There's several posters here who need some serious sack tapping so that they can be removed from the genetic pool.
Idiots.
While George-421202's comments against some posters are popular with mothers and female anti-masculine activists, includes a long list of other masculine activities that would also be condemned by the same women. Consider that he lists rugby. Ladies, if you have a problem with sack-tapping, how about a concussion or broken nose in a fun afternoon of rugby?
George, weren't "wedgies" a part of your boyhood? How about "Grand Canyons" at summer camp?
Nearly all women condemn common boyhood games as needlessly risky and violent primarily because women have neither the courage nor the body strength to participate and thus do not understand the value. These are the mothers that would expect their sons to stand up and protect their families when needed even though these mothers have deprived their sons of exposure to the masculine culture that produces such a man.
Men know how to raise sons. Don't leave that to mothers.
Too bad that you have no clue as to the meaning of my comments, Vincent.
FYI: The article had nothing to do with raising your sons to be able to protect their families. Or that mothers (women) don't have the courage or body strength to play boyhood games so they condemn those games. And men know how to raise sons while women do not? What a crock, Vince! Btw, rugby games are officiated as per the rules and your attempt to compare rugby to sack tapping is so lame that I'll leave it there.
And, it's no Vince. By the time wedgies became popular, my boyhood was long gone. Had anyone ever tried it on me as a 13 year old, they would have had to endure a world of pain to make it happen.
All posters (male and female) that have spoken against this anti-social activity have done so because they are intelligent enough to understand all aspects of its detrimental effect on American society and to determine their opinion based on those factors.
But you and the rest of the macho cretins defending it (and all the chest thumping risk of male sports you may have once played) because it is all that uneducated guys like you have to maintain your fragile egos. Most blue collar working class men are there because they did not have the grades or the intellect to get into or stay in college. Some of you may have been decent athletes in high school before your beer bellies began to grow.
So now, you recall memories of your glory days as one of the popular kids in high school participating in the "masculine culture" which translates to you and your running mates shoving a prime victim's head into a toilet. If you don't defend the activity as harmless fun, you and your boyfriends may have to see yourselves as guilty of despicable acts that could have caused not only physical harm but also deep psychological trauma to your victims.
The sad thing is that the bully problem is so pervasive because dealing with it would confront offspring of prominent families in communities across America. The kids that are doing these horrendous acts to other kids are not confined to males. Girls can be the worst kind of bully because they primarily attack the delicate psyches of their female victims. There have been physical harm incidents involving girls though not nearly as much as the males.
And many of the predators carrying out these attacks come from the privileged "haves" of communities that are accustomed to getting their way because they can afford lawyers and are litigation ready at all times. They are usually the leaders because that is the nature of the beasts. They then allow other less privileged members of sports teams and cheer squads into their clique so that they can prove their allegiance to the clique.
The middle class of America can re-establish a safe environment in our nation's schools by demanding transparency and accountability by school boards .
What happened to the old fashioned wedgie, perhaps it is too easy now that the kids are exposing their underwear. While I don't agree that this is sexual assault, it is an extreme form of bullying.I hope this behavior doesn't catch on with the girls...what would they call it, snatch-tapping?
It's called a "@!$%#-punch"! Not kidding!
Wedgies are just as dangerous as a sacktap it can tear your @!$%#! A kid I went to school with had it happen to him and he wasn't being bullied he dished it out more so than others.
One term I've heard of when a boy slaps a girl in the groin is camel-slapping. As of today, I have not heard of girls doing this behavior to eachother, but I have heard that a punch to the nose was VERY effective in warding of future attacks by boys, and - BONUS- it seems boys won't go running to tell the principal they were hurt by a GIRL! Seems like a boy could use the same response/defense as I doubt the boy who did the groin punching would want to be discovered and therefore probably won't be running to snitch for being punched in the nose (which can cause pain, too, but not usually long term damage or infertility).
Right Wing Extremist,
No .....i am not a lawyer, i am a grown adult man without a thirteen year old bullies mindset or an adolescent view of mind-numb humor.
From reading your ra-ra posts it`s understandable how degrading and de-humanizing acts get past down and taught from father to son, generation to generation.
Some guys just never get beyond 13.
Its called a pooter-punch.
Please don't give the media more credit than it deserves. This is not an emerging trend nor a new fad. Boys in my high school were playing "bag-tag" in the early 70s. It was always played amongst friends and was not a form of bullying.
its not playing when they lose a nut idiot
Nice. Way to keep the intellectual forum of the Vine alive and well.
Back in the day, there was a saying we used, "it's all fun and games until someone loses an eye." Seems appropriate in this situation.
I think it was lose a nut!
You are queer dude.
McPeter, Are you on your 8th grade lunch brake? man your a complete idiot I hope you lost your testicles so you can't breed!
McPeter is a "sack tapper" and is epic at it.
You're not supposed to tap the sack with your chin, McPeter.
I'm really surprised that so many of the men posting here who see this as harmless aren't ranting about the homosexual undertones of this "game". So is this considered acceptable homosexual activity among boys?
Sack-tapping is not homosexual as there is no sex involved.
People like Rick have a problem. I don't know what "probably always" means-statement to justify his own behaviour maybe. You might say the same about circle jerks and invoke the "modesty closet", (whatevet that is), to justify that sort of activity in public parks and/or school yards. I'm flabbergasted that anyone could condone and support this sort of sadistic behaviour.
Paul there is alot worse out in the world going on than sack-tagging you should be concerned about. Keep your blinders on and I think you will be ok in this "sadistic world"!
RWE,
The idea of saying "there is alot (sic) worse out in the world going on than sack-tagging you should be concerned about" is so morally and ethically bankrupt, that it is beyond the pale. It is exactly like saying that the 911 terrorism makes bank robbery okay because it is so much worse.
After reading your 14-year-old polemic, I have decided you need to go on Ignore. Bye
Another thing to thank the degenerates at South Park for. This isn't bullying, it is assault and should be treated like the crime it is.
Thanks for the well made point, I agree completely - where do I place my vote....
So, who do we go after for the people jumping across train tracks the last minute? Or people pooring vodka in their eyes?
The idea behind the game in the cartoon is the fat, bigotted kid (Cartman) tricks people into playing the game and then quickly says he goes first, thus, winning the game. However, later in the episode, the tables are turned by a celebrity who already knew of the game that Cartman played on others and when Cartman goes to play against the celebrity, the celebrity quickly says that he would go first and launches the attack.
Even as the lowest points of humanity are depicted as the storyline in adult comedic entertainment, society has a responsibility to children to protect them from these lows and teach them to aim for the highs....As adults, we use these outlets as a funny way to vent about the idiocy surrounding us in the world, we don't actually believe that what we are watching is acceptable. But children watch us laugh and learn to believe it is funny and acceptable and emulate it.
Children do not have the emotional maturity or wisdom to recognize sarcasm. They are ignorant to the ways of the world - just try telling them something crazy like they can catch an animal if they approach it backward because the animal will think they are walking away and they will believe you, they'll try it!
We must teach children how to rationalize or they will do what they will with their child's brain and imagination. Talk to them often....we wouldn't trust them to rule the world, why leave them to their own devices?
true words...
So true! that is why we as parents should do more parenting and less delegating the parenting job to others. Reality TV and most tv shows in general are a strain on many peopels values and common sense. That is why the people in general are so screwed up. I'm 28yrs old and can't remember seeing all this worthless crap that the kids watch and play anymore. Homosexuality, Killing, Sex, anti-Christianity, ect... are highlighted on tv anymore, ripe for the little minds of children to absorbe.
Yes, and saying "boys will be boys" is brainwashing children to believe that some things are acceptable, and encourages this attitude, and behavior, to continue.
As the saying goes "if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem".
Honeybee, You don't understand and you should use what intellegence you have to read my posts along with others before you comment.
I have, and your blood supply to the region where your brain should be is being cut off.
Intelligence has an i. Einstein.
RWE,28 Yrs old,hell,you still sit down to pee.You are not old enough to NOT remember this stuff.
And yet you still think this game is harmless. Bit of a contradiction there, don't ya think? 28 years old, huh? Do you have any teenagers yet? How would you like to pay for the surgery to correct your 12 or 13 year old's testicular injury?
Really? Hitting of the balls can hurt someone. Really? Who would have thought?
I can not believe these kids are this Stupid.
If there's anything the news has taught me over the years, it's that I vastly overestimate the intelligence of the average person.
Here's another rule to remember, Megi: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.
Sack-tapping and tea-bagging are opposite. Sack-tapping induces pain, and for some, tea-bagging induces pleasure.
If you think sack-tapping is OK, just try it on your co-workers and see how harmless play it is.
Um from a military stand point I thought "teabagging" was what was done to a fella who snored rather loudly with his mouth open.
I could be wrong though.
Deeders your assessment is correct and some do find that pleasurable.
This happened to my grandson while in school outside of shop class. The difference was the two boys used a 2 x 4. My grandson managed to get the 2 x 4 away and hit one of the boys in self defense. But as we all know, all the kids were punished including my grandson. I think when it comes to self defense against someone with a weapon, the one defending himself should not be punished. If we keep this attitude up we will have a whole country full of whimps. You can't keep on suppressing the natural instinct of self defense,which is present in every animal on this earth, down the road it will cause problems. This attitude has been around for some time and I believe it might be some of the cause of PTSD. You tell a child all his life let the adults handle it and for 18 years they never defend themselves. Then at 18 they join the military and are sent to war. Now you are asking them to defend themselves after 18 years of telling them not to. And let me add this: Gangs and Bullies now have the upper hand. They can push a child to the limit and if the child happens to fight back they still win. Gangs and Bullies don't care if they are thrown out of school. I say give the kids back their right of self defense and end this madness.
they can't "give" kids anything if you TAKE the right to self defense back. when my boy turns 5, I'll stat teaching him Mixed martial art.
Broken Saint - Good for you, we also taught my grandson self defense and believe it or not he could have really put a hurtin' on the other two. We also taught him self control for he only hit one kid and it stopped. I hate to think of what could have happened if my grandson had lost his temper. The Irish in us runs deep.
haha Awesome Shawn. good for you!! My Grandmother was Irish! Awesome!
Back in my day, I had one clown try this on me. I beat his ass good and the school did nothing to me. The sack tapper got 3 wackes with the paddle and expelled for a week and that was the end of it.
lol there is no way hacks would be allowed anymore....no way would parents allow someone to physically and mentally abuse their lil angels......liberals have destroyed this country but good.
This isn't bullying, this is plain out just stupid. What the F(&k kind of game is it to hit somebody in the groin?
Any guy or kid that hits another kid or guy in the nutts is stupid and probably into that homo-erotic stuff. Seriously seek help. And Right Wing Extremist.. I wish in your case someone would have hit your dad in the sack.. you not being born would have been the greatest gift of the 20th century
Broken Saint - Punching another guy in the nuts or doing anything to cause them harm is not "homo-erotic". That would fall under the definition of sado-masochism. Do you and a few others here with inane gay comments really think that we gays will do anything as long as it involves a penis ? Causing harm in that area is not a turn on for me or any one I know. S&M is practiced by all types of people. Get it straight. (pardon the pun)
get it straight....lol
good one.
Broken Saint wrote "Any guy or kid that hits another kid or guy in the nutts is stupid and probably into that homo-erotic stuff."
It's a mild assault, and there is nothing sexual about it. Free yourself of the modern feminist view of the world. Male fighting is not homoerotic. When you send your kid to MMA lessons and they teach that a punch or kick to the groin is an effective method to disable your opponent outside of the ring, will you consider that to be homoerotic?
Have teenaged boys in this culture completely lost their minds? Stupid, stupid, stupid, and the "man" who said "let boys be boys" has completely lost touch his surroundings. Kids committing suicide from bullying and boys ending up in ER with crushed body parts are increasing by the day. Idiocy and "bullying" at its worst.
This is the culture of smaller families which means fewer boys in families. Since boys are typically favored, you wind up with a society where 70 percent of college graduates are women and boys act like this. Boys are spoiled beyond recognition.
Just when you think you've seen all the stupid things people do, along comes this. Are kids so impressionable by watching cartoons? Are we raising weak minded idiots? Doesnt anyone "think" for themselves anymore? Maybe Darwin was right.
I know the kind of guys who do this stuff, and I honestly don't mind the fact that many of them are removing themselves from the gene pool.
Put teachers back in the hallways between classes and have the boys arrested if they take part in this practice and expelled for sexual harassment. It won't take many for this to stop. Since you can't get people to actually train their boys to be gentlemen instead of monsters then you have to do it punitively.
I agree wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, teachers don't seem to want to give up a much needed break, parents don't want to volunteer, and principals seem to have lost their willingness to hold students accountable in the face of parents who don't think their "villiage" should have a say in how they raise their children.
I recently experienced first hand through working in the public school system and being confronted by parents who were offended by their child having to do pushups in PE for disrupting class, and by my daughter's experience with "camel-slapping" and having a boy try to molest her under the science class table - even the local prosecuting attorney's hands are tied to some degree with these behaviors as it is often one students word over another's, backed by their friends who tend to water the whole story down and on and on and on.....
Prevention will always begin at home by involved, concerned parents educating their children throughout their childhood and into young adulthood. Sit down to dinner around a table together. If you can't manage this most nights, you need to shuffle your priorities! If you decided to become a parent, it is your highest obligation to be involved!!!!!!!!!!!!
There aren't usually enough teachers to keep the class sizes down to a reasonable number, so there really aren't enough to also monitor hallways between classes or at breaks. Also, many teachers work through their breaks with students who need help with their assignments.
I volunteer at my son's school to monitor kids during lunch time. For 700 students they have 10 adults to monitor (myself included in that number). That's approximately 70 kids per adult to supervise.
Another thing is that schools are really reluctant to call the police for anything other than a situation that requires mandated reporting. Fights and assaults at school do not require mandated reporting. Parents are also reluctant to call in the police, as they see it as a school problem, even though there are definitely laws being broken. Parents need to realize that their rights and responsibilities as parents do not end when they drop their kids off at school. If your child is assaulted at school, the parents have the right to file a police report, request an investigation and prosecution if sufficient evidence is found.
Major motivation: Almost every movie has the groin punch for laughs. Watch for it! Even cartoons feature a kick or punch in the groin. NO WONDER kids think it is funny and okay. Having been around a year or two, I recall when this practice began. Recalling John Wayne's eyes cross as he suffered the groin kick. It was classic! Real men can take it was the message. Movies teach bad habits. If we want to stop sewing up sacks, we stop incentive! Movies.
Petition the industry to stop this silly inclusion in all movies.
Warning, won't be easy. Groin kicks and bathroom humor are mainstay in all movies! Its called lack of creativity.
how about we do it the easy way and teach our children right from wrong?
Meanwhile Liberal Lady, if you take martial arts, one of the ways to defend yourself is to kick the attacked in the groin. So don't knock the groin kick if it is used for defense.
It is also prevelent in commercials!! Kids to what they see! They always have!
Regardless of whether its in movies or not, everybody knows it hurts. Groin/crotch hits hurt everyone, both men and women. We all know that.
Who cares. Let them keep it up. In fact, I think its great. The more damage they do the less chance they have to reproduce later. We don't need more of these morons on the planet.
If each moron was punching himself in the testicles, then I'd agree with you. However, the morons are punching other boys, many of whom surely want no part of this painful game and don't deserve to be hurt or made infertile.
Thats a point I think a lot of people commenting on this article are missing, Cal_Chi. Well said.
the police need to be called with each incident. If not when it happens , later the doctor's and er at the hospitals must be made to report these as assults. the perpetrators need time in juvenille or prison depending on the age. regardless why they do the assult arrests need to be made.the judge can decide the severity and the punishment. then the parents will also take this seriously. i know some parents do take this seriously now but all the parents need to make this behavior stop as well as the taking of prescription and over the counter drugs. Kids get high, brains damaged and do bad things.
After a cringe and "What! No way!" moment, you can only conclude they were trying out for Jackass.
Any step to prevent the rise of "Idiocracy" is a good thing in my book.....