Skinnier than average? Maybe when we were younger, but now most of the gay men I know (and I know plenty, being one myself) are very overweight. I think as you get older, and especially if you are "settled down" this becomes much less of an issue with everyone, straight or gay.
I agree...having been a relationship for 3 years now...my focus on a 32 inch waist has taken a back seat to my focus on a career and sustaining a home. I still go to the gym and eat healthy, but age and priorities change.
What is going on? Gays and Lesbians articles everyday now on msnbc.com. Must be looking to increase their audience or widen their appeal. Frankly, this is a very narrow, specific, vertical type of journalism. Most don't care. It only serves to indicate msnbc's political and social makeup.
Women are more conscious of their appearance than men. Ergo, men who act like women, would be more vain; and women who act like men, would be less vain.
Hhmmm....if heterosexual females eating more made sex messy and consequently made them less desirable, do you think there would be a lot more skinny women?
Apply the same concept to heterosexual males.
Clearly this study did not use a comparable control group.
Isn't there a gay comedian named Scott Kennedy? But he's a bigger fella... Anyway, same guy? I dunno.
Anyway, it's not real news. It should be fairly obvious. And, unfortunately perhaps, lends a lot of weight to the idea that gay men act more like straight women, and gay women act more like straight men.
I consider obese to be fat and nasty, full sized to be chubby but not nasty. Due to my body type I will never be "fit" to what some people consider. I have wide hips and a lot of muscle on my thighs. 140 is a number I will never see unless I turn into an anorexic or bolemic.
I'm with everyone else. These studies always seem to just state the obvious and I can't believe money gets spent on them. At least this one is not another "excuse" article. Why everything else in the world is to blame for personal issues except for the person with the issue. If you don't have an excuse a psychologist will damn sure find you one. I'm with everyone else. These studies always seem to just state the obvious and I can't believe money gets spent on them.
At least this one is not another "excuse" article. Why everything else in the world is to blame for personal issues except for the person with the issue.
If you don't have an excuse, a psychologist will find you one or create one.
Ergo, men who act like women, would be more vain; and women who act like men, would be less vain.
Actually, it's because of the AIDS stereotype from the 80's that many gay men work to counter-act the 'frail, decrepit, half in the grave' stereotype from the 80's. They tend to work out to combat that stereotype. And ironically - not only conquered the stereotype, but completely replaced it with the gym-rat stereotype that we have now.
Where do I begin? Anti-Fat, Anti-Gay, Anti-everything-but-those-just-like-you! Most of you are so full of hate and bias you wouldn't pass a jury screening. And, to Justice Fleeting... what do you want to see on MSNBC -- only articles about people just like you? Buckle up! You are in for a rough ride. We live in a diverse society now.
Having lived in Lambertville, NJ (opposite of New Hope, PA) for 3 years, it doesn't take a genius to conclude that middle-aged lesbians are, for the most part, overweight and butch to the extreme.
I think they put on weight to make themselves look more manly, similar to how most of them lower their voices and furrow their brows when they speak. That's not hate, that's a fact. Go spend a weekend there walking around town.
Could it be that the obesity-ridden Bible Belt states, where people are more likely to be shunned for "choosing" to be gay, are driving up the average weight for heterosexuals because homosexuality would be underreported there?
i have to agree. i think that the trend tends to maybe single people? i know when i was single i actually tried to stay thin. i have been with my partner for over 11 years and while i do like to look attractive to him, we have been together long enough that i don't feel like me getting a "little belly" is going to repulse him.
25 percent of all gay men have a vase of gladiolas on the coffee table and like Art Deco. 75 percent of all straight men have a pair of dirty socks under the bed. 10 percent of all straight men have a lamp beside their bed that's missing the shade. 50 percent of all lesbians own golf clubs or have a cat named "Spike". Studies based on sexual orientation. Blah Blah Blah. For what?
come on now...having been a college student myself, thesis studies and research are key to obtaining your degrees....I am thankful that there are more studies focused on the gay community. The more recognition the better....
Some lesbians are really anal retentive. I built a home for a lesbian couple and they were quite adamant that they did not want any studs, but they specified all tongue and groove.
Gay men are thinner because they eat less - not because they are gay. Why would any intelligent journalist try to snag a reader with that caption? I'm starting to see a pattern. As younger (and less wise) journalist crawl into the rank and file of writers, the things that are printed are tending toward less and less critical thought and more and more tabloid sensationalism. Let the young punks sit on the sidelines a while longer and watch before giving them a computer screen and keyboard from which they can anonomously spew their ingnorance.
bear, you have an excellent point here. I read this article and thought to myself. Well, now, first- Is this news? second- hmmmm- I'm a lesbian woman, 65 years old and slender. I wonder who "they" studied.
The news, both print and t.v., seems to be going for soundbite/tabloid journalism and that's just a shame. In-depth about something worth thinking about would be really nice.
Of course we're less likely to be obese. Many of us, unlike many straight men, don't delude ourselves into thinking we're still attractive if we become porkers. This is said by a sweaty senior, after the daily 20 minutes on the NordicTrack. Out of mutual respect, my partner and I want to remain attractive for one another, as long as we can.
Good for you, man. I used to love that show! Respect is something that seems to wither in relationships as time goes by, nice to see you two are working at yours.
Man: I ain't mad at ya! I'm a straight, southern, married female and I'm datin' him til I bury him!!
We've been together 20 plus yrs and I realize, anyone whose loved and shared his fortune with me for that long deserves a smokin' hot wife.
Excellent point about remaining attractive for one another. Cheers to you two. Good to know there's another couple out there whose keepin' it one-hunred!!
love your comment!!! and i agree with you there. straight men think they are hot even when they are gross with bad breath and 75lbs overweight. gay men are attracted to men and try to look like they actually care about themselves
gay men don't eat less...they eat better...and excercise more. LOLOL.....I do agree with you though, now that "news" has its own 24 hour station....they have to fill it with some kind of information and the masses don't really respond unless it is sensationalized. To be honest I am growing weary of all this informative information...LOLOL. how informed can one man be?
Gay men are thinner and lesbians are heavier but have well rounded children? A whole lot of wasted money going into stupid studies! Stupid, stupid, stupid...
I'm so sick of you pukes ( Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama & Florida) whining about losing your livelihood's - You scum didn't give a crap when 19 Millions other Americans lost their jobs and had to quote " Man up and learn another line of work " - How many of you have offered to buy a meal for someone down on their luck or took someone and bought them a tank of gas like we did for the Katrina victims - 19 Million Americans have lost their jobs and many lost their homes, cars, and life. We didn't have a BP to give up $5,000.00 a month plus your unemployment check and insurance ( which I sure your all scamming ) just as the scum in Miami scammed FEMA after Katrina & Wilma. Your response was get up off your butt's and find something else to do which begs my response to tell YOU too get up off your whinny butt's and find a job and quit sucking dry the $0.30 out of my $10.00 per hour that I now make down from my $55,000.00 after 23 years ( IPhone has a app to learn how to mop a floor ). I don't hear TEXANS whining and screaming for hand-outs before the oil has hit them. It's called class.
I agree beantown...on msn there was an article posted yesterday on a study that pretty much stated that children of lesbian couples are better developed than children of heterosexual couples.
Whats the point of such rubbish?
Thats like printing an article/ study stating children of white parents do better in school than those of black parents.
Why dont they have an article on how fat many Americans are verses the Europeans?
Why dont they do a study on why lesbians hate males in general?
Lol why do i allow myself to read such trashy worthless articles ? ugh
As a lesbian, I must take issue with your notion the lesbians hate males in general. I have a lot of male friends, both straight and gay, and love each of them for different reasons. Just not sexually attracted to them. Just saying.
The gay guys likely have more time to hit the gym, no wife and kid issues.  Maybe thats why they are slimmer. But, the one's that have infested a nearby public area (and seem to think male joggers are fair game) are fat guys. Just out of curiosity, other than my middle finger, is ther a universal signal to let them know I'm not interested?Â
DCist. thanks for the tip. I thought there may be some "I'm a contributing member of humanity, capable of reproducing my species, not a gay rod" signal or something.
I am so happy to see this article! You guys are on to the truth now! I am in my 50's, and learned at age 20, about BODY-BUILD, and behavior traits! Most thin people- whether gay or not, will be EXTROVERTED in their behaviors, because they are NOT reflective-or-HOLD WATER- like heavier people (overweight)! I would think that thin females who "become" gay would also exhibit outward-or extroverted behaviors too- just as most overweight men I have known-ARE most-likely INTROVERTED-because of their "reserves"-or overweight-allowing for reflection! Socio-learned behaviors may modify anyone's initial contact with others, but people are normally born with 1 of 4 basic "TEMPERMENTS"; and they are: HOT&DRY; HOT&MOIST OR COLD&DRY; COLD&MOIST. Each temperment determines the physical make-up- as well as the psychological traits of the person! Very good article!
Have you ever heard the term "chubby chaser"? Believe it or not there are a lot of guys out there, gay and straight, who like their partners on the "voluptuous" side. Remember the old saying, there's a lid for every pot! If you can think of it, someone's into it.
Yeah, because AIDS only spreads between gay men. Not straight men, not women.. Oh and what a cute homophobic joke. You're an embarrassment to humanity.
"Embarassment to humanity..." You've got to be kidding. With your "contribution" to humanity it would soon end, if not from disease, it would end because "Adam and Steve" can't reproduce!!!
BTW, I did not mentioned AIDS in my post!!!! I may have been talking about the mental disease ....
Well zendar, hope you're spared from the mental disease because I hear homosexuality is contagious! Wouldn't want you to drift away and rot too. However, bigotry does a faster job at that.
Do you really believe that the gay life style is normal? I mean really when you look at life and all it has to offer, can you sincerely say the life style is normal? I know it's easy to call me a bigot or homophobic, but you can't respond to the Adam and Steve dilemma.
Gdub48...actually I don't feel superior. Although I am not gay, I know I am a sinner and ask God forgiveness. We all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory and expecation of God. I need forgivenessfor my sins just like gay people need forgiveness for their sins...
I am not trying to beat down anyone...if the truth be told, this whole blog (especially the research that led to same) is a waste of time. May you have a blessed day and may your child be blessed (and straight)...lol. sorry I had to parenthetically get in one last dig, but my prayer and best wishes for you are sincere!
You say hateful things, but I guess its ok because you ask for forgiveness. If you know it's wrong, according to your beliefs, why even do it? From the outside looking in, it's like, I'll just do what I want because God will forgive me and make it all better.
In biology we see homosexual tendencies all the time. Before medical school, I studied biology and biochemistry. Biologists have known for years that homosexuality is very common in the animal world. Unfortunately, this is why you don't hear much about it from us. It's so common, we have other things that are inherently more important to study. The only time it becomes an issue is when you inject cultural, religious and social values into something that is innately biological (i.e. not [usually] controlled by choice).
Of the studies on animals by biologists, you will find that many, many animals practice homosexuality and that, of those that practice pair bonding (monogamy), they will stay with that same sex partner ad mortem. Of the same sex animal partnerships that adopt babies, in zoos or in the wild, you will find the are NO differences between their adopted offspring and the norm of the heterosexual population.
However, if you want to get into other reasons about gays and gay parenting: what about the fact they they, on average, earn more than heterosexuals? That, perhaps, because they are often denied the right to parent by heterosexuals, when presented with the opportunity, they may tend to make better parents because they desire to try harder (perhaps a subconscious form of seeking approval from people like you [e.g. bigoted, narrow-minded, uneducated, people]).
All of this begs the question: why would your god create gay animals (not just humans). What about other animals and lifeforms which are asexual, hermaphroditic, etc? We really aren't so different from them. Of course, this is all probably far too much for your mind to handle. Us scientists, doctors, philosophers and professors are practicing the dark arts and can't be trusted.
Now go ahead, pollute the board with your shallow, feeble thoughts. I am awaiting your response!
Okay, maybe some of my earlier comments were insensitive (never meant to be hateful) and certaintly not with the assumption that God automatically forgives wrong doing. If you look back at the thread between you and me, you are the one who called me ignorant. Nevertheless, I can almost sense from your writing that you are a very sincere and compassionate person. I AM SERIOUS!
Just thought I'd mention this tidbit: At least we're adopting the children the straight people abandon. (No offense to straight people who have adopted). And the studies have shown that they turn out just like children raised in heterosexual households.
Waiting for an "IT'S A CHOICE/IMMORAL LIFESTYLE" rant. Straight people, please stop speaking for gays as if you know more about homosexuality and being gay than gays do. Because in reality, you know absolutely nothing about homosexuality other than what the bible says. You look really stupid when you try to convince us all we're just ~choosing~ to be gay. Guess you guys are just choosing to be straight, right?
You are so right omg. Obviously being black is a choice too. And being a man is a choice. Wow!
Your name doesn't seem to fit your comment, as you seem to have a lack of brain judging from it.
You're the only idiot here.. well not really I've seen a couple other idiots trolling the board with their "lifestyle" comments. But you're right up there, man.
See post #14.14 . Biological studies fully support the conclusion that homosexuality is practiced across all spectra of the animal kingdom. You need only to look it up. I recommend you start with Biology - 8th Edition (Campbell & Reece). From there, you should be able to understand any of the pertinent research you should Google about this topic.
It's so totally amazing to me just how many straight people are completely OBSESSED with what gays get up to in the bedroom! I just love how many "straights" profess to be "experts" on the topic. Considering how many are total closet cases, I'm sure they're getting plenty of experience!
I have read statistics that state that more than 50% of male homosexuals have parasites caused by the ingestion of feces, which will cause them to be thinner.
Now, that's really interesting. I have read statistics that state that ALL posters using the moniker "Cricket" have parasites 'cause they're FULL of fecal matter!
Is there some point in researching and publishing this kind of useless garbage? America and the world already have enormous problems with negative stereotypes. What's worse, people who are subjected to these stereotypes are routinely ostracized, treated with suspicion, and subjected to ugly rumors, hatred, verbal abuse and even physical violence--by others who don't even know them! So-called "studies" such as this one only worsen the problem. Not married? Don't go to church? No kids? You voted for a Democrat? You're not overweight? Not a total slob either? You're somewhat considerate? A little too articulate? You actually read books and don't spend 100% of your time watching sports and drinking beer? Well, I've guess we've got you pegged. Now get ready for lies, innuendo, threats, and workplace barriers like you never imagined. And you can't talk about being shunned, insulted by relatives, or not invited to parties by your married friends, because real men don't talk about their feelings. Listen up, America! It's very likely that your single guy friend wants very deeply to meet and share his life with a special woman. But by stereotyping him with your childish "gaydar," you only ostracize him further. No, you will have to GROW UP and accept that knowing other people requires you to recognize him or her as an INDIVIDUAL. And it takes a little time and effort on your part! Ignorance, laziness and ugly personal biases, religious and otherwise, serve no one in our society.
Actually, I agree with most of what you've said completely. In this country, if you're a sensitive male, they label you gay. And that's wrong. We need to stop labeling people as gay/straight based on what they like to do, how they act and how they look. But I do have to take issue with the "don't go to church" part since there are gays who do attend church. And there are many straight people who don't.
Why is this surprising everyone? Men, as a group, tend to be more visually stimulated, while women, as a group, tend to be more emotion/relationship conscious. Not to say that men are never emotion/relationship conscious or that women are never visual, but those tend to be the norms. So it makes sense that gay men and straight women would be very careful to watch their weight, in order to appeal to male visual senses, and that lesbian women and straight men would not be quite as concerned about their weight. Duh! And now that we've cleared up this mystery, let's move on to something that matters...
So, that make STRAIGHT MEN more guilty than gay men for committing at least one of the seven deadly sins (gluttony). So who exactly does "GOD hate" or who is "going to hell"?
Or conscious effort on the path to a healthy lifestyle...to associate weight loss with disease and therefore gay/lesbian individuals is beyond sophomoric.
Um....yeah. And black guys are bigger beneath the waistline than whites.
Pfft!! I've known plenty of overweight gay guys. The many les girls I've known were pretty slim. Hell, even the butchy gals I've known were slimmer than a lot of the local hetero girls.
I'd want to see various studies reach the same conclusions before announcing it as if scientific fact.
Its amazing how many straight men are upset about this finding. This finding only further proves that men whether straight or gay want thin young women. This proves that men are more judgemental about appearance than they constantly claim to be and women are more accepting about appearance. Plain and simple. Women just accept imperfection while men want perfect even and especially when they are no where near perfect themselves. If men don't like this study they should change their view on what is attractive and what they want in a relationship. Instead of limiting themselves to women under 35 and under 135 lbs maybe they should follow womens guidelines and just look for people they are compatitable with and who make them happy instead of making them look good when they don't look good. Men should also try to be healthier instead of expecting women to be healthy when they themselves are not healthy. Thats like smoking 40 packs a day and saying you don't want someone who smokes. You should live the lifestyle you want your partner to live.
Skinnier than average? Maybe when we were younger, but now most of the gay men I know (and I know plenty, being one myself) are very overweight. I think as you get older, and especially if you are "settled down" this becomes much less of an issue with everyone, straight or gay.
I agree...having been a relationship for 3 years now...my focus on a 32 inch waist has taken a back seat to my focus on a career and sustaining a home. I still go to the gym and eat healthy, but age and priorities change.
What is going on? Gays and Lesbians articles everyday now on msnbc.com. Must be looking to increase their audience or widen their appeal. Frankly, this is a very narrow, specific, vertical type of journalism. Most don't care. It only serves to indicate msnbc's political and social makeup.
If your diet consists of low calorie meals, its no wonder you are thin. It all depends on what you're swallowing.
I saw a couple of lesbian girls yesterday, they certainly did not help the average, heavy would be an understatement
Ah Lloyd you are crazy.......................................
@Phusi: Man the harpoons?
And we paid for this study......heavy sigh.
Why? Why was this study conducted?
faaaabuloussssss!!!!
lesbians wouldn't weigh more if they didn't count the wallet with chain, work boots and 20 lbs of piercings.
A study was needed for this?
Women are more conscious of their appearance than men. Ergo, men who act like women, would be more vain; and women who act like men, would be less vain.
This study was conducted to see how people re-act on this topic (gay/lesbian). This is a very strange article.
Hhmmm....if heterosexual females eating more made sex messy and consequently made them less desirable, do you think there would be a lot more skinny women?
Apply the same concept to heterosexual males.
Clearly this study did not use a comparable control group.
What a completely ignorant and unrelated study. However, homosexuality and obesity are equally disgusting topics...
How much Government taxpayers money was spent on "this" one.
What a stupid article. (no offense to gays out here).
Let's hear more about all the cover ups in the White House---that affects all Americans, including gays..
Isn't there a gay comedian named Scott Kennedy? But he's a bigger fella... Anyway, same guy? I dunno.
Anyway, it's not real news. It should be fairly obvious. And, unfortunately perhaps, lends a lot of weight to the idea that gay men act more like straight women, and gay women act more like straight men.
I consider obese to be fat and nasty, full sized to be chubby but not nasty. Due to my body type I will never be "fit" to what some people consider. I have wide hips and a lot of muscle on my thighs. 140 is a number I will never see unless I turn into an anorexic or bolemic.
Lloyd S.....I read that it is 90 calories a swallow.
Thanks kjpxxx. I'll pass.
I'm with everyone else. These studies always seem to just state the obvious and I can't believe money gets spent on them.
At least this one is not another "excuse" article. Why everything else in the world is to blame for personal issues except for the person with the issue.
If you don't have an excuse a psychologist will damn sure find you one.
I'm with everyone else. These studies always seem to just state the obvious and I can't believe money gets spent on them.
At least this one is not another "excuse" article. Why everything else in the world is to blame for personal issues except for the person with the issue.
If you don't have an excuse, a psychologist will find you one or create one.
Actually, it's because of the AIDS stereotype from the 80's that many gay men work to counter-act the 'frail, decrepit, half in the grave' stereotype from the 80's. They tend to work out to combat that stereotype. And ironically - not only conquered the stereotype, but completely replaced it with the gym-rat stereotype that we have now.
Youre in NM-gays dont care what they look like in the midwestern states
But in NY, LA-we're mostly all fit
Another convenient excuse for lazy fat fuxs to dodge the gym! By all means, looking fit is just SO GAY!
Where do I begin? Anti-Fat, Anti-Gay, Anti-everything-but-those-just-like-you! Most of you are so full of hate and bias you wouldn't pass a jury screening. And, to Justice Fleeting... what do you want to see on MSNBC -- only articles about people just like you? Buckle up! You are in for a rough ride. We live in a diverse society now.
I think Mary's on to something. THIS is the real study - our reactions. lol
Frankly
Why does anyone care one way or other. Some of the gay people I know are thin AND SOME ARE FAT.
Big thrilling news of the day.... NOT.
I hope our tax dollars did not pay for this study. If so, I want my money back.
Having lived in Lambertville, NJ (opposite of New Hope, PA) for 3 years, it doesn't take a genius to conclude that middle-aged lesbians are, for the most part, overweight and butch to the extreme.
I think they put on weight to make themselves look more manly, similar to how most of them lower their voices and furrow their brows when they speak. That's not hate, that's a fact. Go spend a weekend there walking around town.
Could it be that the obesity-ridden Bible Belt states, where people are more likely to be shunned for "choosing" to be gay, are driving up the average weight for heterosexuals because homosexuality would be underreported there?
Who really cares?
i have to agree. i think that the trend tends to maybe single people? i know when i was single i actually tried to stay thin. i have been with my partner for over 11 years and while i do like to look attractive to him, we have been together long enough that i don't feel like me getting a "little belly" is going to repulse him.
Yeah and Barney Frank is a waif. I guess it depends on what kind of sausage you eat.
25 percent of all gay men have a vase of gladiolas on the coffee table and like Art Deco. 75 percent of all straight men have a pair of dirty socks under the bed. 10 percent of all straight men have a lamp beside their bed that's missing the shade. 50 percent of all lesbians own golf clubs or have a cat named "Spike". Studies based on sexual orientation. Blah Blah Blah. For what?
come on now...having been a college student myself, thesis studies and research are key to obtaining your degrees....I am thankful that there are more studies focused on the gay community. The more recognition the better....
a study on the gay communities waist line? you want that recognition?
The study is worthless. Your only looking at Out gays. How many fat gays are in the closet? Or skinny gay women that hide it?
How can you do a general study of a population that is still, for a large part, hidden?
They only hide from the hate that threatens to eliminate them... literally...
Some lesbians are really anal retentive. I built a home for a lesbian couple and they were quite adamant that they did not want any studs, but they specified all tongue and groove.
Gay men are thinner because they eat less - not because they are gay. Why would any intelligent journalist try to snag a reader with that caption? I'm starting to see a pattern. As younger (and less wise) journalist crawl into the rank and file of writers, the things that are printed are tending toward less and less critical thought and more and more tabloid sensationalism. Let the young punks sit on the sidelines a while longer and watch before giving them a computer screen and keyboard from which they can anonomously spew their ingnorance.
bear, you have an excellent point here. I read this article and thought to myself. Well, now, first- Is this news? second- hmmmm- I'm a lesbian woman, 65 years old and slender. I wonder who "they" studied.
The news, both print and t.v., seems to be going for soundbite/tabloid journalism and that's just a shame. In-depth about something worth thinking about would be really nice.
My rant for today.
Peace!
Of course we're less likely to be obese. Many of us, unlike many straight men, don't delude ourselves into thinking we're still attractive if we become porkers. This is said by a sweaty senior, after the daily 20 minutes on the NordicTrack. Out of mutual respect, my partner and I want to remain attractive for one another, as long as we can.
Good for you, man. I used to love that show! Respect is something that seems to wither in relationships as time goes by, nice to see you two are working at yours.
Man: I ain't mad at ya! I'm a straight, southern, married female and I'm datin' him til I bury him!!
We've been together 20 plus yrs and I realize, anyone whose loved and shared his fortune with me for that long deserves a smokin' hot wife.
Excellent point about remaining attractive for one another. Cheers to you two. Good to know there's another couple out there whose keepin' it one-hunred!!
love your comment!!! and i agree with you there. straight men think they are hot even when they are gross with bad breath and 75lbs overweight. gay men are attracted to men and try to look like they actually care about themselves
gay men don't eat less...they eat better...and excercise more. LOLOL.....I do agree with you though, now that "news" has its own 24 hour station....they have to fill it with some kind of information and the masses don't really respond unless it is sensationalized. To be honest I am growing weary of all this informative information...LOLOL. how informed can one man be?
Please tell me this so-called "research" was not funded by any tax dollars.
Well, Fear, it may have been. Don't worry, though, if it was, it was paid for by the "queer" tax dollars only - yours are safe!
Glad I hadn't just had a swallow of tea before I read that one!! Thanks for the out loud laugh!!!
:)
Pipe down, 'Fear and Loathing'...my gay tax dollars go toward educating the spawn of heterosexuals every day.
Gay men are thinner and lesbians are heavier but have well rounded children? A whole lot of wasted money going into stupid studies! Stupid, stupid, stupid...
I'm so sick of you pukes ( Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama & Florida) whining about losing your livelihood's - You scum didn't give a crap when 19 Millions other Americans lost their jobs and had to quote " Man up and learn another line of work " - How many of you have offered to buy a meal for someone down on their luck or took someone and bought them a tank of gas like we did for the Katrina victims - 19 Million Americans have lost their jobs and many lost their homes, cars, and life. We didn't have a BP to give up $5,000.00 a month plus your unemployment check and insurance ( which I sure your all scamming ) just as the scum in Miami scammed FEMA after Katrina & Wilma. Your response was get up off your butt's and find something else to do which begs my response to tell YOU too get up off your whinny butt's and find a job and quit sucking dry the $0.30 out of my $10.00 per hour that I now make down from my $55,000.00 after 23 years ( IPhone has a app to learn how to mop a floor ). I don't hear TEXANS whining and screaming for hand-outs before the oil has hit them. It's called class.
Fort Lauderdale
Peace
Rev. Wright, what does your comments have to do with the article being discussed on the weight of Gay Men? Did I miss something, sorry if I did.
Sorry - posted on the wrong thread but I'm sure that alot of gay guys can dig and get it - their just unemployed a the rest.
Reading this totally out of context was great, Rev. Wright! Thanks, I really got a kick out of it!
I agree beantown...on msn there was an article posted yesterday on a study that pretty much stated that children of lesbian couples are better developed than children of heterosexual couples.
Whats the point of such rubbish?
Thats like printing an article/ study stating children of white parents do better in school than those of black parents.
Why dont they have an article on how fat many Americans are verses the Europeans?
Why dont they do a study on why lesbians hate males in general?
Lol why do i allow myself to read such trashy worthless articles ? ugh
Lesbians don't hate men in general. We just don't want to have sex with them.
As a lesbian, I must take issue with your notion the lesbians hate males in general. I have a lot of male friends, both straight and gay, and love each of them for different reasons. Just not sexually attracted to them. Just saying.
Have a great day!
Peace!
Peeon - lesbians don't hate ALL men - just you!
This instantly brought to mind a one-liner from a few (quite) years ago. No one loves you when you're old and gay. ......... And fat.
The gay guys likely have more time to hit the gym, no wife and kid issues.  Maybe thats why they are slimmer. But, the one's that have infested a nearby public area (and seem to think male joggers are fair game) are fat guys. Just out of curiosity, other than my middle finger, is ther a universal signal to let them know I'm not interested?Â
yeah, try the same rejection line straight women use on you and keep running.
lol. Who cares how thin they are. A lot of them are thin because of something else and it has nothing to do with diet or work out habits.
DCist. thanks for the tip. I thought there may be some "I'm a contributing member of humanity, capable of reproducing my species, not a gay rod" signal or something.
Sorry to break it to you but homosexuals have families, spouses and kids too.
I am so happy to see this article! You guys are on to the truth now! I am in my 50's, and learned at age 20, about BODY-BUILD, and behavior traits! Most thin people- whether gay or not, will be EXTROVERTED in their behaviors, because they are NOT reflective-or-HOLD WATER- like heavier people (overweight)! I would think that thin females who "become" gay would also exhibit outward-or extroverted behaviors too- just as most overweight men I have known-ARE most-likely INTROVERTED-because of their "reserves"-or overweight-allowing for reflection! Socio-learned behaviors may modify anyone's initial contact with others, but people are normally born with 1 of 4 basic "TEMPERMENTS"; and they are: HOT&DRY; HOT&MOIST OR COLD&DRY; COLD&MOIST. Each temperment determines the physical make-up- as well as the psychological traits of the person! Very good article!
Who in the heck would want to have a hugh glob of marshmellow cream laying pipe on them anyway!
Have you ever heard the term "chubby chaser"? Believe it or not there are a lot of guys out there, gay and straight, who like their partners on the "voluptuous" side. Remember the old saying, there's a lid for every pot! If you can think of it, someone's into it.
Maybe it''s because of the "stuff" they swallow supress their appetitate
or
perhaps the study included all gay men, including those whose bodies are wasting away because of the disease that accompany their life style.
Amen
Yeah, because AIDS only spreads between gay men. Not straight men, not women.. Oh and what a cute homophobic joke. You're an embarrassment to humanity.
"Embarassment to humanity..." You've got to be kidding. With your "contribution" to humanity it would soon end, if not from disease, it would end because "Adam and Steve" can't reproduce!!!
BTW, I did not mentioned AIDS in my post!!!! I may have been talking about the mental disease ....
Well zendar, hope you're spared from the mental disease because I hear homosexuality is contagious! Wouldn't want you to drift away and rot too. However, bigotry does a faster job at that.
Kanariya23,
Do you really believe that the gay life style is normal? I mean really when you look at life and all it has to offer, can you sincerely say the life style is normal? I know it's easy to call me a bigot or homophobic, but you can't respond to the Adam and Steve dilemma.
zenday--Yes, because only gay people have children that grow up to be gay.
and what is this "normal" you speak of. if you are "normal" i don't want to be it!
How original, Adam and Steve. And yes, we can reproduce. Unfortunately so can you.
Gay people don't have children...they ADOPT and corrupt! Normal is not eating where you s..t and NOT drinking where you p..s.
Yes, gay people do HAVE children!!! I have a 13 year old. Did you just crawl out from under a rock?
How DARE you say my child is corrupt because I love another woman! I can only hope that your children can rise above your ignorance!
Oops...I thought you were a man...maybe you are... there was a pregnant man on Oprah. Is the woman you love the father of your child?
zendar, you're too funny! Go ahead and make "jokes". I'm sure your feeling of superiority gets you through the day.
Gdub48...actually I don't feel superior. Although I am not gay, I know I am a sinner and ask God forgiveness. We all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory and expecation of God. I need forgivenessfor my sins just like gay people need forgiveness for their sins...
I am not trying to beat down anyone...if the truth be told, this whole blog (especially the research that led to same) is a waste of time. May you have a blessed day and may your child be blessed (and straight)...lol. sorry I had to parenthetically get in one last dig, but my prayer and best wishes for you are sincere!
zendar,
You say hateful things, but I guess its ok because you ask for forgiveness. If you know it's wrong, according to your beliefs, why even do it? From the outside looking in, it's like, I'll just do what I want because God will forgive me and make it all better.
zendar
In biology we see homosexual tendencies all the time. Before medical school, I studied biology and biochemistry. Biologists have known for years that homosexuality is very common in the animal world. Unfortunately, this is why you don't hear much about it from us. It's so common, we have other things that are inherently more important to study. The only time it becomes an issue is when you inject cultural, religious and social values into something that is innately biological (i.e. not [usually] controlled by choice).
Of the studies on animals by biologists, you will find that many, many animals practice homosexuality and that, of those that practice pair bonding (monogamy), they will stay with that same sex partner ad mortem. Of the same sex animal partnerships that adopt babies, in zoos or in the wild, you will find the are NO differences between their adopted offspring and the norm of the heterosexual population.
However, if you want to get into other reasons about gays and gay parenting: what about the fact they they, on average, earn more than heterosexuals? That, perhaps, because they are often denied the right to parent by heterosexuals, when presented with the opportunity, they may tend to make better parents because they desire to try harder (perhaps a subconscious form of seeking approval from people like you [e.g. bigoted, narrow-minded, uneducated, people]).
All of this begs the question: why would your god create gay animals (not just humans). What about other animals and lifeforms which are asexual, hermaphroditic, etc? We really aren't so different from them. Of course, this is all probably far too much for your mind to handle. Us scientists, doctors, philosophers and professors are practicing the dark arts and can't be trusted.
Now go ahead, pollute the board with your shallow, feeble thoughts. I am awaiting your response!
Gdub48,
Okay, maybe some of my earlier comments were insensitive (never meant to be hateful) and certaintly not with the assumption that God automatically forgives wrong doing. If you look back at the thread between you and me, you are the one who called me ignorant. Nevertheless, I can almost sense from your writing that you are a very sincere and compassionate person. I AM SERIOUS!
Yes, I called you ignorant. Not being hateful, I’m being truthful.
You're quote, "Gay people don't have children...they ADOPT and corrupt! Normal is not eating where you s..t and NOT drinking where you p..s.?
It is ignorant to think we can't have children. It is ignorant to make crude statements about someone just because they're different than you.
Peace!
youre disgusting
zendar...Bigotry is a life style choice.
hey zendar don't sweat it, most people don't like the truth.
Homosexuals don't make homosexuals, HETEROSEXUALS make homosexuals!
zendar, you really are an oppressed bigot. hmmm i always heard the loose wheel squeaks loudest
Just thought I'd mention this tidbit: At least we're adopting the children the straight people abandon. (No offense to straight people who have adopted). And the studies have shown that they turn out just like children raised in heterosexual households.
Homosexuality is inborn. Hatred is taught.
Good to know as a waddle my fat Gay butt over to the computer.
Waiting for an "IT'S A CHOICE/IMMORAL LIFESTYLE" rant. Straight people, please stop speaking for gays as if you know more about homosexuality and being gay than gays do. Because in reality, you know absolutely nothing about homosexuality other than what the bible says. You look really stupid when you try to convince us all we're just ~choosing~ to be gay. Guess you guys are just choosing to be straight, right?
Throw the Bible out of the equation. Get a biology book.
Everything is a CHOICE. For example while heavily wishing to strangle idiots like you, I refrain, because I know its wrong.
Thats the difference.
You are so right omg. Obviously being black is a choice too. And being a man is a choice. Wow!
Your name doesn't seem to fit your comment, as you seem to have a lack of brain judging from it.
You're the only idiot here.. well not really I've seen a couple other idiots trolling the board with their "lifestyle" comments. But you're right up there, man.
See post #14.14 . Biological studies fully support the conclusion that homosexuality is practiced across all spectra of the animal kingdom. You need only to look it up. I recommend you start with Biology - 8th Edition (Campbell & Reece). From there, you should be able to understand any of the pertinent research you should Google about this topic.
It's so totally amazing to me just how many straight people are completely OBSESSED with what gays get up to in the bedroom! I just love how many "straights" profess to be "experts" on the topic. Considering how many are total closet cases, I'm sure they're getting plenty of experience!
And what world do you live in. The gays that I see are as fat and big as any other guy. This dribble is in your heads.
I have read statistics that state that more than 50% of male homosexuals have parasites caused by the ingestion of feces, which will cause them to be thinner.
That is the one of the most vile and hateful lies that I have ever heard about gay men. How ignorant can one person really be?
Now, that's really interesting. I have read statistics that state that ALL posters using the moniker "Cricket" have parasites 'cause they're FULL of fecal matter!
Cite them and I'll restore this. Otherwise it reads like you're trolling.
Don't hold your breath. He never will.
Is there some point in researching and publishing this kind of useless garbage? America and the world already have enormous problems with negative stereotypes. What's worse, people who are subjected to these stereotypes are routinely ostracized, treated with suspicion, and subjected to ugly rumors, hatred, verbal abuse and even physical violence--by others who don't even know them! So-called "studies" such as this one only worsen the problem. Not married? Don't go to church? No kids? You voted for a Democrat? You're not overweight? Not a total slob either? You're somewhat considerate? A little too articulate? You actually read books and don't spend 100% of your time watching sports and drinking beer? Well, I've guess we've got you pegged. Now get ready for lies, innuendo, threats, and workplace barriers like you never imagined. And you can't talk about being shunned, insulted by relatives, or not invited to parties by your married friends, because real men don't talk about their feelings. Listen up, America! It's very likely that your single guy friend wants very deeply to meet and share his life with a special woman. But by stereotyping him with your childish "gaydar," you only ostracize him further. No, you will have to GROW UP and accept that knowing other people requires you to recognize him or her as an INDIVIDUAL. And it takes a little time and effort on your part! Ignorance, laziness and ugly personal biases, religious and otherwise, serve no one in our society.
I agree.
Actually, I agree with most of what you've said completely. In this country, if you're a sensitive male, they label you gay. And that's wrong. We need to stop labeling people as gay/straight based on what they like to do, how they act and how they look. But I do have to take issue with the "don't go to church" part since there are gays who do attend church. And there are many straight people who don't.
Tom, well said, really well said!
Why is this surprising everyone? Men, as a group, tend to be more visually stimulated, while women, as a group, tend to be more emotion/relationship conscious. Not to say that men are never emotion/relationship conscious or that women are never visual, but those tend to be the norms. So it makes sense that gay men and straight women would be very careful to watch their weight, in order to appeal to male visual senses, and that lesbian women and straight men would not be quite as concerned about their weight. Duh! And now that we've cleared up this mystery, let's move on to something that matters...
Another gay and/or lesbian study. What's up? Their sexual preference seems to make them the new lab rat for human study. Sad.
So, that make STRAIGHT MEN more guilty than gay men for committing at least one of the seven deadly sins (gluttony). So who exactly does "GOD hate" or who is "going to hell"?
That "all loving" God hates those pesky abominations, a.k.a. gays, who are going straight to hell, obviously, for choosing to be gay, duh.
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I wonder what Massachusetts' obesity rate is compared to the nation. The study's pretty light.
Weight loss is often a precursor or a symptom of disease.
traz
Thank you.
Or conscious effort on the path to a healthy lifestyle...to associate weight loss with disease and therefore gay/lesbian individuals is beyond sophomoric.
So true FutureDoc-897283!
Actually, it's PRE-sophomoric.
Um....yeah. And black guys are bigger beneath the waistline than whites.
Pfft!! I've known plenty of overweight gay guys. The many les girls I've known were pretty slim. Hell, even the butchy gals I've known were slimmer than a lot of the local hetero girls.
I'd want to see various studies reach the same conclusions before announcing it as if scientific fact.
gay men are thin and fit in teh big cities-everywhere else, they are just as fat as regular straight guys
Its amazing how many straight men are upset about this finding. This finding only further proves that men whether straight or gay want thin young women. This proves that men are more judgemental about appearance than they constantly claim to be and women are more accepting about appearance. Plain and simple. Women just accept imperfection while men want perfect even and especially when they are no where near perfect themselves. If men don't like this study they should change their view on what is attractive and what they want in a relationship. Instead of limiting themselves to women under 35 and under 135 lbs maybe they should follow womens guidelines and just look for people they are compatitable with and who make them happy instead of making them look good when they don't look good. Men should also try to be healthier instead of expecting women to be healthy when they themselves are not healthy. Thats like smoking 40 packs a day and saying you don't want someone who smokes. You should live the lifestyle you want your partner to live.