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Aurora, Il... a little bit of Mexico right up by Chicago. Doesn't suprise me whatsoever.
The article said that the outbreak affected Subway stores in 28 counties. So this was likely a supplier problem & not something at the local store.
But, sure, go ahead & make this an issue of bashing people from Mexico.
Never mind that salmonella has zero to do with crops picked by migrant workers.
FYI, salmonella is most often related to incorrect cooking of products such as eggs
(which would be used in the mayo in the woman's tuna sandwich).
Very likely, something was wrong in the processing and/or storage of the mayo by
a Subway supplier. Very possibly by legal American citizens & not by the Mexicans
you were so quick to blame.
The article said that the outbreak affected Subway stores in 28 counties...
None of the other stores or countries were listed, nor was there a link pointing to this number.
That.......and the hopes of getting a.....free lunch.
I tried one of subway's breakfast sandwich deals. Upon entering the store, I was accosted with the delicious smell of the bread rolls cooking. Wonderful. I was shocked when the server pulled out a flat pre-cooked egg pancake and started cutting it into pieces to put in the sandwich. She charges me for the sandwich and I asked if she included the coffee with it. She said I am not charging you for coffee. I knew why upon my first sip.
Terrible coffee and terrible sandwich.
I have had the meatball sandwich before and its usually pretty good.
FYI - There is no salmon in salmonella
About three or four years ago a friend of mine's best friend lost her baby due to E coli that was from a Subway sandwich. She and everyone that was in the store that night got sick. For some reason she never sued Subway. After that I decided to never eat at Subway again.
If you have never had food poisoning, it goes like this, Simultaneous vomiting and diarrhea. Severe stomach pain, like you swallowed lit charcoal. Lasted three days. Could only keep water down. If Subway is at fault, she should get something. Stupid people with coffee are one thing. Going to the hospital because of poorly stored food by a business in the food industry is another.
haven't eaten in subway in years, their employees always look like they just got paroled.
I haven't eaten in a Subway since I got moldy bread with my sandwich (fresh baked every day...hogwash).
Dang it. I missed my chance. I should have sued!! /lighthearted sarcasm
I quit going to Subway a year ago.
The food is no longer fresh.
Yeah, she ate a tuna sandwich there. Their tuna is like mayonnaise soup. Nasty.
Tuna Sandwich says it all. Ick...I would starve to death in a warehouse full of that sh*t :)
A subway franchise supervisor once physically assaulted me when I criticized him. I complained to the regional manager - to no avail of course. Until someone sues, or often not even then, all they care about is the mighty $. I didn't have video evidence of the assault, so unfortunately the cops told me there was nothing that could be done.
Oh well, everyone knows that Bolingbrook, IL can be a scary town. I wouldn't be surprised if I get sick eating at any random place there.
Tip: if you feel like you might have consumed crap, eat (A) loads of activated charcoal immediately (B) loads of misc probiotics for the next several days (C) consider a good laxative for use right away. Good luck.
Sounds like this woman is only concerned about money too. If you don't want to take the risk, don't eat at a fast-food restaurant. It's not a four-star stop.
Getting a four-star meal at a fast-food restaurant is an unreasonable expectation.
Not getting food poisoning is a standard and legally obligated expectation. A lawsuit is completely reasonable in this case.
I disagree.....vote with your feet, not your "mouthpiece". Reason, I am tired of paying the high incremental additional costs every service and product (particularly health care) that results from us...the most sue happy country on earth. It is not just paying settlement costs, it is paying, and dealing with all the defensive actions organizations have to take to avoid being sued. Now I suppose I will have to sign a disclaimer next time I eat a sub.....it's fast food folks....you put out millions of sandwiches made by people...and some are sub (pardon the pun) standard.....who'd a thought.
The lady that is suing...she just wants money...imo
Demar, you can get salmonella, or E coli from food you buy at the store. Remember a few years ago the big recall on salad mix sold at grocery stores?
I can understand if she required medical care that cost her a lot of money, that she'd ask for some help with any medical bills that built up. And if that's the case, then ok. But I feel like it sounds like she's another sue-happy money grubber looking for a payday. Maybe I'm just a cynic...
Or, maybe, she wants to put pressure on Subway to correct its practices?
Yes, she wants money (and deserves to get some; salmonella poisoning is very unpleasant).
But if she hadn't sued, would we have known that there was a
problem?
moxie, no, she wants the money. The news item is enough to cause the company to take action...much more motivating than what they will pay.
She is suing, because she can...it's an easy score after the news, like suing BP. I have known several people in my life that sue because they know they can make money, but most people I know have a value system that says it is not right (doing it just for money)
Until you have actually worked at a Subway,you can not know some of the crap that goes on in one of these allegedly "healthy" stores. My manager has repeatedly allowed frozen bread dough to thaw on the counter,sit for hours and then tried to refreeze it. I have had fellow employees friends and/or family come into the store and try to help them out during rushes. Never once have I seen one of these people wash their hands or use the REQUIRED disinfectant. Not even after handling money and before handling food. I would NEVER eat ANYTHING from a Subway. How did Jared lose all that weight? One word...... dissentery
You get what you pay for. If you pay minimum wage you get people that don't give a sh-t. That's how it goes.
Many of the Subway restaurants in southern Missouri are consistently dirty, too, with a lot of managers who aren't interested in hearing customer's concerns, let alone doing anything to remedy the problem.
With that many people in Illinois developing food poisioning because of Subway's unsanitary practices it sounds like being hit in the pocketbook may be the only thing Subway will understand.
I live in the Southeast - nowhere near Illinois and I abhor people that are "sue-happy" - however this is one case I fully support.
I have finally quit eating at Subway and I love their breads, but the last three times in a row I ate at Subway I got sick - once requiring a hospital visit. It's not Illinois that has poor hygiene practice or whatever it is - the Subway standards are low across the board. You'd think with Quizno's and Schlotzkey's they'd step it up, but no...I say a good hard punch in the wallet is what they need. Fortunately, I have other places to go to satisfy my deli sandwich craving.
It's been 9 months since the last time I ate Subway and I won't ever go to another one.
Standards must not be low where I live. I have never gotten sick from a Subway sandwich... at least, not the kind of sickness I didn't bring upon myself. The only sandwich that was ever murder on my bowels was the pizza sub... and that's because I told them to pile on pepperoni and then put it in the microwave until the grease soaked all the way through the italian bread... I can still taste it now... ommmm nomnomnomnom... I didn't throw up or get nauseous or bleed, but I cramped up a lot, terribly!
Thats seems to be everywhere lately; There is no concern for anybody anymore,Its just 'Hoorah For Me",No Quality in anything,Just a bunch of $hitt shoved out on a Market that is very Tenuous at best
Just another frivolous lawsuit !!
It seems EVERYTHING is blamable (on someone else) the deeper the pockets, greater the blame. Ironic isn't it? She gets sick but her lawyer got hungry. We Americans are so germaphobic, 20% of the world doesn't even have toilets. Anyone who has worked in food service has horror stories about the food/sanitation (especially if they left unhappily). Bottom line, let's take some personal responsibility and fix the problem not the blame.
Interesting, my doctor cousin says that we have ruined our immune systems in this country with out germophobia. It's good to be clean but the body can actually handle a lot. Wash and prepare your own food; when you eat at places that pay employees minimum wage you're dealing with people that don't get paid enough to care. I got food poisoning from an Applebees spinach salad once, why didn't I sue? That's right, because stuff happens and you can choose not to go back. I still eat at Applebees though and haven't had a problem since.
Yeah, she sure sounds like a money-hungry grub looking for the big payoff. And to all of you who like to ride the fast food chains, I suggest you check with your local health department about citations withnot-so-fast restaurants. 7 violations in my home town within the past 30 days, including rodent droppings on uncovered rice, improper storage of materials, etc. Boston 4 star restaurants have been cited numerous times. It happens more often and in more places than you think. And I don't eat at ff restaurants because I can't afford even that. I'm not on welfare or any of the freebies (I assume this woman is receiving some sort of aid, according to the description of the town by some of the readers). Can anyone spell sue?
Hey moxie, the salmonella could be on anything. It's actually more likely it was from the lettuce, not the mayonaise.
I am surprised the article didn't release exactly which item made all those people sick. In this day, it doesn't take much to figure out which product it was.
When my daughter was @ 7 months old, she got salmonella. 7 months old, and we could not figure out how in he** she got it. At that age, the only thing she ever ate or drank was baby food. The only thing we could find out, was that she picked up a minuscule amount of cow poo from her Dad's clothing when he held her. The doctor said it does not take but a tiny piece and she could get sick. The health department even had to check it all out in case it was her food.
So, it just goes to show how easy anyone can get salmonella, anywhere!!! Should this woman sue? IMO, no. S*it happens!!! LOL
Another loser trying to make some money any way she can. This is getting ridiculous. These people cost all of us money and jobs with their frivolous lawsuits.
Standards for Subway must be set at the regional level. The one I go to has decent food for a decent price. I've never had a "bad" sandwich from this store. My job requires a lot of travel. I've been to fast food chain restaurants that were good, and I have been to those where I turned and walked out as fast as I could.
If it's because of something the employee(s) did at 1 site - yeah, maybe I could almost see the lawsuit having merit. When it's a supply issue, as this sounds like, suing Subway and the individual store is just idiotic. Did the lettuce come with a label saying Now With More Salmonella and employees ignore that potential red flag? How about finding out where the contamination started and suing the supplier if that was the case? Nah, that doesn't get you as much attention or money. Oh, but wait, that's not what she's about. Silly me, she seems just as decent and upstanding as that guy who sold me a bridge yesterday.....
As a fun side note: I saw a restaurant critic do a review of Subway in New England a few years back. The review criticized the questionable quality of the meats (grayed ham and the rest of the meats otherwise discolored). I've only been to a Subway once since I saw that.
Each store is independently owned and operated. If a particular store is not up to par, it's the owner's fault and not the chain. I say make a complaint to the health department that has jurisdiction over a particular store.
Here we go again with the "Hot coffee" syndrome deal. How much is it going to cost now?
The "hot coffee" syndrome was COMPLETELY different. Any moron, including the one who sued, knows that "coffee" unless specified as iced is served HOT. Any individual eating at any restaurant - fancy or fast food - should expect that all the health laws are observed so that they don't get sick eating the food. Do you expect coffee to be hot? Of course you do? Do you expect to get sick when you go out to eat? No, you didn't. The comparison is absurd.
I have never gotten ill from one of my hometown's subway sandwiches but I have had salmonella from two other subways and both times I had ordered the tuna salad. Never ordered it again and never got sick again. Learned the hard way not to buy pre-made salad sandwiches. If I want tuna or chicken salad I do it at home.
If the employees are following food safety protocol there is a very low chance of produce causing illness. Wash the veggies before cutting and rinse after cutting everything but tomatoes and mushrooms. Wash hands before and after handling money or meat, use different gloves for meat and veggies to prevent cross contamination. Keep the prep table area at 40 degrees or below to prevent growth of bacteria. Simple and works.
Well, congratulations to all you people who have never gotten sick from Subway - for those are of you that are complaining that this ONE woman had a tummyache and is some kind of a gold digger - did you not see that nearly 100 people got sick?!
As for me, like I said before, I got food posioning from Subway 3 times, including one hospital visit (which is where we figured it out it was Subway causing it) - haven't been sick since I stopped eating there! But, neither do I have any desire to sue them. I'll just take my business elsewhere.
But, Subway's low standards across the board indicate that it's time somebody slapped them in the face (or rather the wallet, where it actually hurts) - this woman may have filed, but several more out of those hundred are going to join in - watch and see.
And no, you don't expect a gourmet meal from a fast food chain, but I agree that you have a legal right not to expect to be poisioned from their food, either!
I agree with you about hitting them in the pocket book, it's the only place big business understands. This is a special case, it happened to more than one person, and more than one time. In cases of recurring food poisoning the need a message sent that it is not acceptable and suing may be the only way, at the very least they should pay the bills for the care in hospital and missed work.
I say one takes a risk when eating out and that it's a choice--no one is forcing someone to eat at a restaurant. Turn in the local owner to the health department and tell everyone you know not to eat there. That's all that is needed.
Subway stores are not "owned" by Subway. They are owned by proprietors who buy in to the franchise. In reality, who she should be suing depends on how she got sick. Sue the owner(s) of the store if it was a problem with cleanliness or employee related. Sue the Subway franchise if they are"knowingly" distributing contaminated food. I say "knowingly" because, sad to say, most companies don't realize it's contaminated until someone gets sick. It did say that it involved multiple stores, so speculation would assume that it is the product, not the individual store's fault.
You reitterated the point (imo) one hundred got sick, and one sued. You should expect your food to be safe...you should also realize it never will be 100 % so...imo.
You got sick at subway 3 times eh. I am making a leap of faith here...but how often do you get sick after eating out ?
PS..she filed a lawsuit for "The lawsuit filed by Alicea Bush-Bailey, 46, of Bolingbrook, accuses Subway of failing to prevent the outbreak". Considering all the other recalls, tainted foods, water supplies warnings etc we here about.....what do you think their chances are ? And no, no one else will join in such a lawsuit....failure to prevent an outbreak...what the heck is that ?
But I do agree with voting with your feet...don't go there, I wouldn't (not a big fan anyway, I like Panera's myself)....I think when you buy based on cheap prices, you get cheap food...call me crazy.
I'm thinking of filing a suit against cell phone mfg's for failing to prevent the epidemic of traffic accidents they cause (220 K per year if I have my numbers right).....you in ?
Sal, I don't know what you think the health department does or if you just have an excellent one, but around here, they post the health scores in the newspaper (which of course nowdays most people don't buy because they get their news online or on tv), but our health department hands out scores in the 60's and still keeps the restaurants open! And as for "publicly displaying your health score", we have lots of people display it in the bathroom, the bar, even the kitchen (which is not public) or hang large ferns in front of it! No, around here telling the health department doesn't accomplish anything!!
Bull-wife, already on this board there are people claiming to get sick from Subway in three different states! To me that sounds like a corporate problem. They either buy sub-par ingredients or ship them cheaply in poorly refrigerated trucks or their franchise standards are so low that the franchise owners don't care enough to say this isn't good enough for my store and step it up.
John - I broke my neck two years ago goofing off in the front yard (and caught mono having neck surgery in the "sterile" hospital) and the cooking and cleaning fell to my husband. Our house is messy, but as I get better it's slowly getting better. But, we've eaten a LOT of take-out food in the past couple of years - from McDonalds to actual nice restaurants. Subway's been the only one that's made me sick. But, yes, other people will join in - because they're greedy. I didn't sue the hospital for catching mono there, but a lot of people would. The world likes to make a fast, easy buck. Good point about the traffic accidents and while I see your tongue-in-cheek point I would rebut that you might feel differently if you were involved in such an accident or such an accident killed a loved one. But, you wouldn't sue the cell phone companies - you'd sue the state for not passing a law to protect drivers - it's their responsibility, not the cell phone company. I'm only 30, but I'm one of those oddballs that doesn't talk and drive - if I need to, I'll pull over. But, if Subway hired leaky or poorly refrigerated trucks to deliver their meat, you wouldn't sue the truck - you'd sue the people responsible for keeping the meat safe.
MY husband and I ordered the same sandwich at our NEW Subway near our home. They were the new chicken apple sub. The sickness hit us both at the same time. Had to go to Alabama the next morning. It was a long trip.
Gold digger. Fine her and her lawyer for bringing forth a frivolous lawsuit.
"The chain also removed ingredients in question and has been using new, fresh produce".
I thought they claimed all ingredients were fresh?
Maybe they should offer up toy's to get customers back.
Then that group that's after McDonald's would come knocking.....
I hear in Austrialia plantiffs are responsible for costs in bring frivolous lawsuits. Accountablility runs both ways (a wacky thought)
Wow, radical idea John. But you'd also have to account for lawyers convincing someone to file a suit.
I agree! I think plaintiffs should be held responsible for filing frivolous lawsuits, but as long as we have idiot juries awarding hot coffee spillers millions of dollars who's going to be the one to decide that the case is frivolous? Apparently everybody in America except the woman, her lawyer and and 12 idiots on a jury thought the case was moronic!
This makes is sound common (oh, yeah...it is)
In the United States, using FoodNet data from 1996-1998, the CDCP estimated there were 76 million foodborne illnesses (26,000 cases for 100,000 inhabitants):[37]
plenty of lawsuit opportunities.