I was just rejected by Anthem Bluecross-Blueshield. (And I don't even have a pre-existing condition!)
--I guess I'll need to argue more for my health now, to avoid a potential healthcare bankruptcy. Great. SO bite me, all you corporate-sponsored, Tea-Bagging, double-dipping, Republican-in-disguise, fake Christians! ;)
I wonder if anyone has studied the effects on the children of parents who argue. I grew up feeling fearful and insecure, while my parents kissed and made up and got a good night's sleep.
Holding back when when you really want to abandon any thought of being PC or otherwise disingenuous is like trying to hold back flatulence eventually it will come out in lumps. Or, you'll you'll end up with a constipated mind.
The key is to fight fair and stick to the real issue.
No name calling unless it's Pelosi, she's is fair game. For that matter, pick any politician you want they all dwell in her snake infested un-drained swamp.
This is a little misleading. Reread the story again and you will see that it is FEARFUL people who don't argue and perhaps because they are fearful they have problems. Being fearful can be a result of being abused as a child or growing up in a family that uses corporal punishment or growing up in a family that follows a strict fear based religion or any number of situations in which the child is made to behave by use of ridicule, fear and punishment.
Bob - true statement about the fear. I was raised in a fearful environment. I don't argue or fight with my spouse, I just go to bed for a few days. I am very depressed all the time and I wonder why.
Debbie take an assertiveness training course it will improve your feeling of self worth. Seek counseling if you need to. Know you are a valuable person and get out of bed and get out of the house. That imaginary boogie monster is under the covers with you. Now get up and get going. Remember what you enjoyed ... Do it. You go girl!
Oh contraire MomTom that undrained swamp is contaminated stagnant bilge where eventually even the reptiles can't survive.
I have no quarrel with your mom, she has every right to create her own words my mother did it too. However; if you support Pelosi with her 13% approval rating I won't argue with a fool. That tendency only makes both parties look foolish.
I grew up in an extended family that raised argument to the level of performance art. Winning your point involved convincing the other parties that the issue mattered more to you than to them. Everyone got into the act and it could get worse than a session of Congress. Still, I grew up feeling very secure because no matter how loud and intense it got, everyone was still there the next day, nobody was hurt and the air was much clearer. I learned that it's possible to disagree and still live together. I also learned not to be afraid to speak my mind and that you don't always have to get your way. Sometimes it's enough that the people around you know what you honestly think and feel. Sometimes the issue isn't who's right but who cares the most. There's just 3 rules for arguing: Never use violence, Always be honest, and never fight dirty.
Humans are a very "Strange Bunch", sometimes I wonder how many Extra-Terrestrial's have slowed down to take a look at our beautiful blue planet? and once they saw the inhabitants they quickly slammed on the accelerator pedal to get away for obvious reasons for some but not most? and that is the most important point. Humans are not done yet? They have a long way to go before "Human Species" as a collective mildly resembles an Intelligent species.
There is a time and place for everything and arguing in front of the children is not one of them. Unless you both know how to argue without it getting out of control and no yelling. You take it away from their ears of course!
Communication is key to all human relationships. We grow together or we grow apart. YET as much as humans talk about their uniqueness, they still forever forget to continually apply the thought that everyone in the room may not "see it like that", or feel like that or to that depth, degree or intensity.
We are born different, as portrayed in the 12 signs of the zodiac, and far beyond those ideas alone. We are not like noodles cut and measured from the Play-Dough factory. Even with same parents, our inherited traits vary, and will take in our experiences and all make something different from them. Bullies effects could lead to cowering, running away, clamming up, physical illness or suicide. Or perhaps they will choose to become a bully too.
We learn from surroundings and relationships WHAT DOES NOT WORK for our "optimal performance". We move away from music types, personality types, colors and combinations and styles, although we very often mature and grow to "find new appreciation" for certain things we once perhaps cast away far to easily.
SO some of us would blow our brains out if forced to "argue" without resolve, learning and growth. Others appear to enjoy making "who can scream loudest" their family and community projects, but little was ever accomplished by all talking at one time. For example, when Martin Luther King took the podium, crowds managed to fall silent and respectful enough to listen.
A person who cowers out of fears requires a partner (friendships) who understand and who gently SEEK to draw them out of that shell. If they settle for someone who "accepts them as they are" one should wonder what that really says. "I like a woman who cowers in the corner. I don't want no backtalking or opinionizing around here. When I say stay, sit, come, run get me a beer...good girl... I mean it. I DA masta."
So whereever you're at, open up more mind and if you learn that "heartfelt communication" isn't actually allowed, then you'll have learned that you made a wrong turn and NEXT TIME, DON'T DO ANOTHER brain and heart bypass... chasing "cute" or "benefit packages" or late night junk food, then wondering why we never find "the one". Its quite likely that they've yet to grow up and "in to you"... preferring dips in kiddie pools perhaps.
I'm an italian lady and it was important for us to communicate even if it did not always turn out so good.....but you learned that everyone still loved you and was there for you no matter how you felt about something....so now that I'm adult I still communicate my feelings and thoughts and it's always mostly the ladies (non italian) that hold grudges against you because you disagreed about something...the men are like "okay let's do lunch"...and the trick is to respectfully disagree and fight fair and not take it personally or hold a grudge about it....I never have to go home and complain about my job or co-workers because I take care of those issues during the day while I'm at work!
My husband and I will live forever, if this is the case :) In all seriousness though, I've always been afraid of confrontation. As a result, I obviously get used as a doormat most of the time. My BP is thru the roof. However, when I do argue with someone (usually my husband), I may be angry for the time being, but after all is resolved, I feel so much better. And we love each other so much more for being open and honest, knowing that nothing so trivial can break our relationship. But when I just lie down and let people walk on me, I stew about it for days.
I was just rejected by Anthem Bluecross-Blueshield. (And I don't even have a pre-existing condition!)
--I guess I'll need to argue more for my health now, to avoid a potential healthcare bankruptcy. Great. SO bite me, all you corporate-sponsored, Tea-Bagging, double-dipping, Republican-in-disguise, fake Christians! ;)
Must of been a mental pre existing claim you forgot about after you got married but before you changed your name. ?
Republicans are all about the money - some people, unfortunately, cant see the forrest for the trees. Guess Limbaugh put nuts in a trance.
I would like to argue that point.
I wonder if anyone has studied the effects on the children of parents who argue. I grew up feeling fearful and insecure, while my parents kissed and made up and got a good night's sleep.
Good for your health, eh?
Then 89% of Newsviners should be extremely healthy, especially the political aficianados! :)
No kidding!!! Calling names is SOP.
I came here for an argument.. I'm sorry this is abuse.
Next time Im feeling a little peckish Ill just log onto Newsvine
Holding back when when you really want to abandon any thought of being PC or otherwise disingenuous is like trying to hold back flatulence eventually it will come out in lumps. Or, you'll you'll end up with a constipated mind.
The key is to fight fair and stick to the real issue.
No name calling unless it's Pelosi, she's is fair game. For that matter, pick any politician you want they all dwell in her snake infested un-drained swamp.
A thousand papercuts and bubblegum to you.
I agree that name calling is fair when dealing with politicians. Frankly they just seem to be asking for it.
This is a little misleading. Reread the story again and you will see that it is FEARFUL people who don't argue and perhaps because they are fearful they have problems. Being fearful can be a result of being abused as a child or growing up in a family that uses corporal punishment or growing up in a family that follows a strict fear based religion or any number of situations in which the child is made to behave by use of ridicule, fear and punishment.
Bob - true statement about the fear. I was raised in a fearful environment. I don't argue or fight with my spouse, I just go to bed for a few days. I am very depressed all the time and I wonder why.
Debbie take an assertiveness training course it will improve your feeling of self worth. Seek counseling if you need to. Know you are a valuable person and get out of bed and get out of the house. That imaginary boogie monster is under the covers with you. Now get up and get going. Remember what you enjoyed ... Do it. You go girl!
That undrained swamp is actually wetlands, and important to all life on earth. But, you say tomayto, I say tomahto...
ps. momtom=girl with boy's name...take it up with my mother.
Oh contraire MomTom that undrained swamp is contaminated stagnant bilge where eventually even the reptiles can't survive.
I have no quarrel with your mom, she has every right to create her own words my mother did it too. However; if you support Pelosi with her 13% approval rating I won't argue with a fool. That tendency only makes both parties look foolish.
I grew up in an extended family that raised argument to the level of performance art. Winning your point involved convincing the other parties that the issue mattered more to you than to them. Everyone got into the act and it could get worse than a session of Congress. Still, I grew up feeling very secure because no matter how loud and intense it got, everyone was still there the next day, nobody was hurt and the air was much clearer. I learned that it's possible to disagree and still live together. I also learned not to be afraid to speak my mind and that you don't always have to get your way. Sometimes it's enough that the people around you know what you honestly think and feel. Sometimes the issue isn't who's right but who cares the most. There's just 3 rules for arguing: Never use violence, Always be honest, and never fight dirty.
Humans are a very "Strange Bunch", sometimes I wonder how many Extra-Terrestrial's have slowed down to take a look at our beautiful blue planet? and once they saw the inhabitants they quickly slammed on the accelerator pedal to get away for obvious reasons for some but not most? and that is the most important point. Humans are not done yet? They have a long way to go before "Human Species" as a collective mildly resembles an Intelligent species.
People who try to be all things to all people really are nothing to anybody.
Argueing only causes one's blood pressure to sky-rocket. That's not good for anyone.
There is a time and place for everything and arguing in front of the children is not one of them. Unless you both know how to argue without it getting out of control and no yelling. You take it away from their ears of course!
Communication is key to all human relationships. We grow together or we grow apart. YET as much as humans talk about their uniqueness, they still forever forget to continually apply the thought that everyone in the room may not "see it like that", or feel like that or to that depth, degree or intensity.
We are born different, as portrayed in the 12 signs of the zodiac, and far beyond those ideas alone. We are not like noodles cut and measured from the Play-Dough factory. Even with same parents, our inherited traits vary, and will take in our experiences and all make something different from them. Bullies effects could lead to cowering, running away, clamming up, physical illness or suicide. Or perhaps they will choose to become a bully too.
We learn from surroundings and relationships WHAT DOES NOT WORK for our "optimal performance". We move away from music types, personality types, colors and combinations and styles, although we very often mature and grow to "find new appreciation" for certain things we once perhaps cast away far to easily.
SO some of us would blow our brains out if forced to "argue" without resolve, learning and growth. Others appear to enjoy making "who can scream loudest" their family and community projects, but little was ever accomplished by all talking at one time. For example, when Martin Luther King took the podium, crowds managed to fall silent and respectful enough to listen.
A person who cowers out of fears requires a partner (friendships) who understand and who gently SEEK to draw them out of that shell. If they settle for someone who "accepts them as they are" one should wonder what that really says. "I like a woman who cowers in the corner. I don't want no backtalking or opinionizing around here. When I say stay, sit, come, run get me a beer...good girl... I mean it. I DA masta."
So whereever you're at, open up more mind and if you learn that "heartfelt communication" isn't actually allowed, then you'll have learned that you made a wrong turn and NEXT TIME, DON'T DO ANOTHER brain and heart bypass... chasing "cute" or "benefit packages" or late night junk food, then wondering why we never find "the one". Its quite likely that they've yet to grow up and "in to you"... preferring dips in kiddie pools perhaps.
I'm an italian lady and it was important for us to communicate even if it did not always turn out so good.....but you learned that everyone still loved you and was there for you no matter how you felt about something....so now that I'm adult I still communicate my feelings and thoughts and it's always mostly the ladies (non italian) that hold grudges against you because you disagreed about something...the men are like "okay let's do lunch"...and the trick is to respectfully disagree and fight fair and not take it personally or hold a grudge about it....I never have to go home and complain about my job or co-workers because I take care of those issues during the day while I'm at work!
My husband and I will live forever, if this is the case :) In all seriousness though, I've always been afraid of confrontation. As a result, I obviously get used as a doormat most of the time. My BP is thru the roof. However, when I do argue with someone (usually my husband), I may be angry for the time being, but after all is resolved, I feel so much better. And we love each other so much more for being open and honest, knowing that nothing so trivial can break our relationship. But when I just lie down and let people walk on me, I stew about it for days.