It appears as if the the "experts" are half-poached on this one or have been sitting in an office with 0% field knowledge.
First: Salmonella contamination occurs on the surface of the eggs. If you wash them with say TekTrol egg wash it is 100% effective.
Second: Rotten eggs stink and look rotten on the inside. If you eat it, then you should get sick for being stupid.
Third: ALL eggs are not poorly handled. We have 3 laying hens tucked away that happily lay more organic eggs than my family can eat in a week. We feed them alfalfa, barley, and rye grass. The eggs are packed with Omega-3s and are very heart healthy.
Last: The "experts" appears to be media back-office idiots that claim titles for themselves when they are too lazy to call someone at UC Davis. Tell them to shut it if they don't know what they're talking about.
It appears as if the the "experts" are half-poached on this one or have been sitting in an office with 0% field knowledge.
First: Salmonella contamination occurs on the surface of the eggs. If you wash them with say TekTrol egg wash it is 100% effective.
Second: Rotten eggs stink and look rotten on the inside. If you eat it, then you should get sick for being stupid.
Third: ALL eggs are not poorly handled. We have 3 laying hens tucked away that happily lay more organic eggs than my family can eat in a week. We feed them alfalfa, barley, and rye grass. The eggs are packed with Omega-3s and are very heart healthy.
Last: The "experts" appears to be media back-office idiots that claim titles for themselves when they are too lazy to call someone at UC Davis. Tell them to shut it if they don't know what they're talking about.
" and I'm sure they'll have this situation cleaned up pretty rapidly"...how? By stuffing the hens with even more antibiotics and other junk? What would fix this is for hens to live normal lives...outdoors, in sunshine, able to flap their wings and walk, etc. The way animals are housed and treated and processed for our consumption is causing lots of health problems and will continue to do so. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Everyone should see "Food, Inc." If you are a thinking person at all, it may change your way of thinking. It should. It certainly did mine.
Potter, you should watch Food Inc. In it they discuss the whole and slow foods movement and local cooperatives. We're right outside a very large city and there are LOTS of cooperatives with very conscientious farmers who love to grow healthy food. It cost about 30% more.
Just know where your eggs come from by having your own hens or getting them from a farmer you know. Clean water and no rodent feces in the food equals a good egg. They just want to scare people away from being self-sufficient, classic tactic.
Maybe with all the rampant salmonella it's time to reconsider the 5-second rule for dropped food: The Egg Recall: Rethinking the 5-Second Rule http://gigabiting.com/?p=4623/
People with weakened immune systems should not only cook eggs thoroughly (firm, or use pasturized liquid egg products), they should eat meat and fish "medium well done" and poultry very well done.
Also, avoid eating sprouts and use only pasturized dairy products, firm cheeses, and pasturized juices. Also skip tofu packed in water, raw honey, sun tea, and unwashed produce. Be wary of foods at potlucks, from street vendors, salad bars, deli's, and buffets.
Ask your physician or registered dietician about further guidance. People who have previously used chemo drugs or immunosuppressant meds should also be cautious because their immune systems may take a long time to recover, if at all.
To be more specific, GROUND BEEF, which mixes meat from many parts and various cows, is the most dangerous to eat rare or pink. Reports of dangerous e-coli bacteria are most often from undercooked ground beef burgers, meatballs, or meatloaf.
Slab beef such as steaks are safer if you prefer your beef medium-rare.
Wash hands, cutting boards, and utensils thoroughly with hot water and soap to prevent cross-contamination.
Go to wholesale or club stores, buy large cuts of meats and process your own. All you need is a meat grinder (cheap), a food processor and common sense to produce quality and healthy meats. Learn to cook (the old fashioned way).
Unfortunately they've spoiled the food supply and for those of us that live in cities and in extreme weather zones (like Las Vegas), growing our own (of anything) is just not an option. So farmer's markets, make your own everything (it's not hard but does involve work) can resolve health issues (allergies, digestive, skin, illnesses) and at least improve your life. We don't need all the chemicals we're being fed.
I'm not giving up fried eggs over easy - no way. I gave up eating raw cookie dough and that was hard enough. Besides, in a year or so they will be telling us the ONLY way to eat eggs is over easy. Given enough time all the advice changes. Remember what the food pyramid looked like years ago?!
years ago I watched a friend in the UK give up on store bought eggs, said they were not like they used to be. We now all know the way eggs are produced in mass, cruel etc. and we also know the consequences of same. My friend raised his own and soon became quite popular due to the size and taste of the eggs his chickens laid. People started to ask if he had any left over and if he did would he sell them? he charged people 10% over store cost and was never, ever left with overage. he bought more chickens and rented som land built a chicken coop and began a thriving business. It can and should be done today...Question...Would you buy eggs locally free range guaranteed for 10% more than say Safeway? To give up on soft boiled eggs seems lunacy and a step towards some kind of robotic move toward mass production. Say goodbye to mass produced eggs, say hello to fresh farm produce!
Why don't they ever suggest washing the eggs themselves? I don't make my own mayo much anymore (only did it to go with freshly steamed artichoke...mmmm), but love the over-easy egg. I always wash the eggs before cracking them open. Salmonella is most often on the outside of the egg.
With recent outbreak of salmonella inside the egg....we're all screwed. Guess it's egg salad week....
richard-795963 - Even the recalled eggs would likely be OK - if "safely" prepared, meaning hard cooked. Personally, I'm glad I didn't get any of the "bad eggs," as I like my over-easy eggs and runny scrambles. Not to mention raw cookie dough.
I also like my burgers on the rare side. Screw dried-up, tasteless food. Bleah. I'll take my chances and challenge the old immune system.
The CDC extrapolates/estimates 5000 US deaths a year due to foodborne illnesses (by the way, if you add up all of the extrapolations that the CDC and medical community does, you will rapidly have more than the total number of deaths in a given year). The actual number of confirmed deaths due to Salmonella last year is less than 50. The US population is 308 million. So, your annual risk of dying from salmonella (or food poisoning) is somewhere between 60,000 and 6 million to 1. Assuming you are in good health, the risk of death becomes nearly astronomical. We are becoming so risk adverse in this country that soon our children will not be allowed outside, the speed limit will be 21, the drinking age 55 and swimming pools will be banned. I think I will continue to enjoy my egss and take the risk.
Eggs and all foods need to be better regulated but NOOOOOOO, that would be socialism and inconvenient to Big Business, which can just keep poisoning us for profit.
. . . because government is so good at regulating anything, just look how well they regulated the home mortgage industry. . . . Let's face it, folks, humanity consists of fools, whether they work for business or government. All anyone is interested in is a paycheck, and two full generations have been raised to be so stupid and selfish that they are incompetent to do any job, but will readily cut someone's throat for a pair of running shoes. It's what happens when you don't have a nation, just a shopping mall.
Unfortunately, the majority of the citizenry has been taught to buy processed food and no longer wants "real whole food". Kids don't even know what real food looks like or how it looks unprocessed, nor would they eat it. We have allowed big business to poison us.
Then they want to us go to the corrupt medical practitioners who have sold their soul to the pharmaceutical companies to give us even more chemicals and then we end up in the corrupt hospital system that exposes us to infections & more corruption. Everywhere you look someone's got their hand in someone else's interests and none of those are yours. Yet we allow this broken system to continue.
Than we say we should vote the incumbents out in order to get new blood into the government yet unless they are multi-millionaires (which they became by selling out to big business) or have already sold their soul in order to win campaigns, they won't make it. In the off chance they do make it, once in the corrupt government they will have to play ball or do nothing because they won't be allowed to affect change, the lobbyists will buy them so they will turn into those they replaced and everything will remain the same.
I tell you, what's the solution? Are we too late? How do we help ourselves?
I and my entire family, (I'm 63 yrs young) have eaten eggs sunny-side up my entire life without event. My parents before me ate them that way and never got sick. I believe we need to look at the big picture and direct our warnings to the egg farmers and storers of eggs. If they are creating a Grade A product we have nothing to worry about. If they are stored correctly and dated properly we should be well protected.
I say go ahead, enjoy your eggs sunny-side up (no...not runny!).
Everything we do these days is "risky". I too will continue to eat my eggs a little runny (over-medium)... i like my whites cooked not drippy but, i like my yokes runny...
i knew dis guy sal, sal minella yea, he used to make me sick too every time i saw him, mostly cause he made fun of my bone head mistakes all the time so i would always end up lookin like i had egg on my face
In southern California, cooks are lazy. They only know how to make sunny-side up, over-hard, scrambled, and over-easy. And if they are not asked for one of the three former, they always, always cook eggs over-easy. Although in the course of a restaraunt day, this short-cut saves tons of $ and time, I have not noticed any purposeful scheme. I have noticed this problem in socal restaurants for a few years now, but customers more often than not, are rather sheepish to complain, even though prices have tripled from what they used to be.
Moral of my story: Always check your order before commencing to eat.
Actually, even if ordering scrambled, to often raw egg still remains. And if ordering over-easy, if you see clear, not white or yellow, then=still raw.
From the comments I see we have a number of candidates for The Darwin Awards. You may not die from getting Salmonella, but getting food poisoning will wish you were.
Big business, as was mentioned, didn't have their farm inspected because no one from the FDA ever inspected the farm. Not at the farms request, but because the FDA was too lazy to do what they are paid to do. I just wonder how many other farms and other facilities should be inspected, but those doing the inspecting are only collecting a pay check and growing their posterior. No facility can ask that their plant not be inspected only the inspectors just do nothing and say they are overwelmed by the amount of work and they need more inspectors. Yeah, hire more inspectors so more people can do nothing. We are seeing that these so called agencies really do not watch out for us, but only themselves and their paychecks.
This is the case with all levels of life in these United States. No one wants to trouble themselves anymore, they just want their paycheck. No more work ethic and the results don't matter.
I have a friend who is a policemen. He said most people he works with could care less. They clock in then leave, putz around most of the day, clock out and stay under the radar. Where I live police stations are only open 8-5 Mon-Fri, how about that? I went to report a stolen car and was told to come back the following week.
Went to the courthouse to file some paperwork and had to wait in line (along with 40 other people) while 3 workers stood around and talked for over 40 min, 2 other workers talked on the phone (they were personal calls, you could hear them) and their supervisor was in his office drinking coffee and reading the newspaper. This is the same agency that is complaining about furloughs (can you imagine that?) and that all paperwork is backed up more than 3 years! Customer service is gone.
Have you bought a good American product lately? They're few and far between. Manufacturing has left the building (like Elvis) and young people don't want to work blue collar jobs. They want big money and jobs they can be lazy at. This is our future, full of broken everything.
It's common in other modern countries for grocery stores to still display cartons of eggs on shelves - unrefrigerated. I was just in England and this practice was common in many popular supermarkets. Eggs are fairly resiliant if they are not cracked and you wash them before opening.
Man this article gets me eggcited about eating eggs again.
It appears as if the the "experts" are half-poached on this one or have been sitting in an office with 0% field knowledge.
First: Salmonella contamination occurs on the surface of the eggs. If you wash them with say TekTrol egg wash it is 100% effective.
Second: Rotten eggs stink and look rotten on the inside. If you eat it, then you should get sick for being stupid.
Third: ALL eggs are not poorly handled. We have 3 laying hens tucked away that happily lay more organic eggs than my family can eat in a week. We feed them alfalfa, barley, and rye grass. The eggs are packed with Omega-3s and are very heart healthy.
Last: The "experts" appears to be media back-office idiots that claim titles for themselves when they are too lazy to call someone at UC Davis. Tell them to shut it if they don't know what they're talking about.
This is a great article that should help everyone from banning eggs from their diet. Boil em hard and with a little hummus....ummm good!!
I like my eggs cooked over hard, but trying to find a restaurant cook that does not scorch them is almost impossible.
Ken, Ken, Ken,
It appears as if the the "experts" are half-poached on this one or have been sitting in an office with 0% field knowledge.
First: Salmonella contamination occurs on the surface of the eggs. If you wash them with say TekTrol egg wash it is 100% effective.
Second: Rotten eggs stink and look rotten on the inside. If you eat it, then you should get sick for being stupid.
Third: ALL eggs are not poorly handled. We have 3 laying hens tucked away that happily lay more organic eggs than my family can eat in a week. We feed them alfalfa, barley, and rye grass. The eggs are packed with Omega-3s and are very heart healthy.
Last: The "experts" appears to be media back-office idiots that claim titles for themselves when they are too lazy to call someone at UC Davis. Tell them to shut it if they don't know what they're talking about.
" and I'm sure they'll have this situation cleaned up pretty rapidly"...how? By stuffing the hens with even more antibiotics and other junk? What would fix this is for hens to live normal lives...outdoors, in sunshine, able to flap their wings and walk, etc. The way animals are housed and treated and processed for our consumption is causing lots of health problems and will continue to do so. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Everyone should see "Food, Inc." If you are a thinking person at all, it may change your way of thinking. It should. It certainly did mine.
I won't watch food Inc for that very reason. I knowmore than I want to know about corporate food processing.
In this, I prefer to remain ignorant and still be able to blissfully enjoy a meal.
Potter, you should watch Food Inc. In it they discuss the whole and slow foods movement and local cooperatives. We're right outside a very large city and there are LOTS of cooperatives with very conscientious farmers who love to grow healthy food. It cost about 30% more.
Bliss=bury head in sand.
Just know where your eggs come from by having your own hens or getting them from a farmer you know. Clean water and no rodent feces in the food equals a good egg. They just want to scare people away from being self-sufficient, classic tactic.
Maybe with all the rampant salmonella it's time to reconsider the 5-second rule for dropped food:
The Egg Recall: Rethinking the 5-Second Rule
http://gigabiting.com/?p=4623/
Good time to go VEGAN!
Vegan!! Yes!!!! But no rodent feces?
People with weakened immune systems should not only cook eggs thoroughly (firm, or use pasturized liquid egg products), they should eat meat and fish "medium well done" and poultry very well done.
Also, avoid eating sprouts and use only pasturized dairy products, firm cheeses, and pasturized juices. Also skip tofu packed in water, raw honey, sun tea, and unwashed produce. Be wary of foods at potlucks, from street vendors, salad bars, deli's, and buffets.
Ask your physician or registered dietician about further guidance. People who have previously used chemo drugs or immunosuppressant meds should also be cautious because their immune systems may take a long time to recover, if at all.
Meat and fish should be eaten well-done. Only beef is fairly safe if less than well-done.
To be more specific, GROUND BEEF, which mixes meat from many parts and various cows, is the most dangerous to eat rare or pink. Reports of dangerous e-coli bacteria are most often from undercooked ground beef burgers, meatballs, or meatloaf.
Slab beef such as steaks are safer if you prefer your beef medium-rare.
Wash hands, cutting boards, and utensils thoroughly with hot water and soap to prevent cross-contamination.
Go to wholesale or club stores, buy large cuts of meats and process your own. All you need is a meat grinder (cheap), a food processor and common sense to produce quality and healthy meats. Learn to cook (the old fashioned way).
Unfortunately they've spoiled the food supply and for those of us that live in cities and in extreme weather zones (like Las Vegas), growing our own (of anything) is just not an option. So farmer's markets, make your own everything (it's not hard but does involve work) can resolve health issues (allergies, digestive, skin, illnesses) and at least improve your life. We don't need all the chemicals we're being fed.
I'm not giving up fried eggs over easy - no way. I gave up eating raw cookie dough and that was hard enough. Besides, in a year or so they will be telling us the ONLY way to eat eggs is over easy. Given enough time all the advice changes. Remember what the food pyramid looked like years ago?!
Right; if I ahd akitchen I'd make them how I wnat them; it's mys tomach, my health, and everyone else can take a jump.
years ago I watched a friend in the UK give up on store bought eggs, said they were not like they used to be. We now all know the way eggs are produced in mass, cruel etc. and we also know the consequences of same. My friend raised his own and soon became quite popular due to the size and taste of the eggs his chickens laid. People started to ask if he had any left over and if he did would he sell them? he charged people 10% over store cost and was never, ever left with overage. he bought more chickens and rented som land built a chicken coop and began a thriving business. It can and should be done today...Question...Would you buy eggs locally free range guaranteed for 10% more than say Safeway? To give up on soft boiled eggs seems lunacy and a step towards some kind of robotic move toward mass production. Say goodbye to mass produced eggs, say hello to fresh farm produce!
Why don't they ever suggest washing the eggs themselves? I don't make my own mayo much anymore (only did it to go with freshly steamed artichoke...mmmm), but love the over-easy egg. I always wash the eggs before cracking them open. Salmonella is most often on the outside of the egg.
With recent outbreak of salmonella inside the egg....we're all screwed. Guess it's egg salad week....
To hell with that.
I would just as soon not eat eggs that are overcooked.
Lucky for me, I raise two hens that provide safe eggs for me.
The reason that the salmonella got into the system is that processors let the chickens eat their
own dung.
You think??
richard-795963 - Even the recalled eggs would likely be OK - if "safely" prepared, meaning hard cooked. Personally, I'm glad I didn't get any of the "bad eggs," as I like my over-easy eggs and runny scrambles. Not to mention raw cookie dough.
I also like my burgers on the rare side. Screw dried-up, tasteless food. Bleah. I'll take my chances and challenge the old immune system.
I'll continue to live dangerously and have my eggs over easy....
i like them ss up and runny as a babies nose so get the hell out of my kitchen
The CDC extrapolates/estimates 5000 US deaths a year due to foodborne illnesses (by the way, if you add up all of the extrapolations that the CDC and medical community does, you will rapidly have more than the total number of deaths in a given year). The actual number of confirmed deaths due to Salmonella last year is less than 50. The US population is 308 million. So, your annual risk of dying from salmonella (or food poisoning) is somewhere between 60,000 and 6 million to 1. Assuming you are in good health, the risk of death becomes nearly astronomical. We are becoming so risk adverse in this country that soon our children will not be allowed outside, the speed limit will be 21, the drinking age 55 and swimming pools will be banned. I think I will continue to enjoy my egss and take the risk.
Eggs and all foods need to be better regulated but NOOOOOOO, that would be socialism and inconvenient to Big Business, which can just keep poisoning us for profit.
. . . because government is so good at regulating anything, just look how well they regulated the home mortgage industry. . . . Let's face it, folks, humanity consists of fools, whether they work for business or government. All anyone is interested in is a paycheck, and two full generations have been raised to be so stupid and selfish that they are incompetent to do any job, but will readily cut someone's throat for a pair of running shoes. It's what happens when you don't have a nation, just a shopping mall.
Unfortunately, the majority of the citizenry has been taught to buy processed food and no longer wants "real whole food". Kids don't even know what real food looks like or how it looks unprocessed, nor would they eat it. We have allowed big business to poison us.
Then they want to us go to the corrupt medical practitioners who have sold their soul to the pharmaceutical companies to give us even more chemicals and then we end up in the corrupt hospital system that exposes us to infections & more corruption. Everywhere you look someone's got their hand in someone else's interests and none of those are yours. Yet we allow this broken system to continue.
Than we say we should vote the incumbents out in order to get new blood into the government yet unless they are multi-millionaires (which they became by selling out to big business) or have already sold their soul in order to win campaigns, they won't make it. In the off chance they do make it, once in the corrupt government they will have to play ball or do nothing because they won't be allowed to affect change, the lobbyists will buy them so they will turn into those they replaced and everything will remain the same.
I tell you, what's the solution? Are we too late? How do we help ourselves?
I and my entire family, (I'm 63 yrs young) have eaten eggs sunny-side up my entire life without event. My parents before me ate them that way and never got sick. I believe we need to look at the big picture and direct our warnings to the egg farmers and storers of eggs. If they are creating a Grade A product we have nothing to worry about. If they are stored correctly and dated properly we should be well protected.
I say go ahead, enjoy your eggs sunny-side up (no...not runny!).
That's like saying that you've driven without a seat belt for your entire life and haven't been killed yet. Roll the dice!
Please eat the runny eggs before you reproduce..
Everything we do these days is "risky". I too will continue to eat my eggs a little runny (over-medium)... i like my whites cooked not drippy but, i like my yokes runny...
i knew dis guy sal, sal minella yea, he used to make me sick too every time i saw him, mostly cause he made fun of my bone head mistakes all the time so i would always end up lookin like i had egg on my face
WTF? j00 don't appreciate t3h 1337 mind of Global Studios, n00b?? In Sal Manella's world, runny eggs eat j00! Bun-ny side up FTW! ROFL... LMAO!!
In southern California, cooks are lazy. They only know how to make sunny-side up, over-hard, scrambled, and over-easy. And if they are not asked for one of the three former, they always, always cook eggs over-easy. Although in the course of a restaraunt day, this short-cut saves tons of $ and time, I have not noticed any purposeful scheme. I have noticed this problem in socal restaurants for a few years now, but customers more often than not, are rather sheepish to complain, even though prices have tripled from what they used to be.
Moral of my story: Always check your order before commencing to eat.
Actually, even if ordering scrambled, to often raw egg still remains. And if ordering over-easy, if you see clear, not white or yellow, then=still raw.
From the comments I see we have a number of candidates for The Darwin Awards. You may not die from getting Salmonella, but getting food poisoning will wish you were.
Big business, as was mentioned, didn't have their farm inspected because no one from the FDA ever inspected the farm. Not at the farms request, but because the FDA was too lazy to do what they are paid to do. I just wonder how many other farms and other facilities should be inspected, but those doing the inspecting are only collecting a pay check and growing their posterior. No facility can ask that their plant not be inspected only the inspectors just do nothing and say they are overwelmed by the amount of work and they need more inspectors. Yeah, hire more inspectors so more people can do nothing. We are seeing that these so called agencies really do not watch out for us, but only themselves and their paychecks.
This is the case with all levels of life in these United States. No one wants to trouble themselves anymore, they just want their paycheck. No more work ethic and the results don't matter.
I have a friend who is a policemen. He said most people he works with could care less. They clock in then leave, putz around most of the day, clock out and stay under the radar. Where I live police stations are only open 8-5 Mon-Fri, how about that? I went to report a stolen car and was told to come back the following week.
Went to the courthouse to file some paperwork and had to wait in line (along with 40 other people) while 3 workers stood around and talked for over 40 min, 2 other workers talked on the phone (they were personal calls, you could hear them) and their supervisor was in his office drinking coffee and reading the newspaper. This is the same agency that is complaining about furloughs (can you imagine that?) and that all paperwork is backed up more than 3 years! Customer service is gone.
Have you bought a good American product lately? They're few and far between. Manufacturing has left the building (like Elvis) and young people don't want to work blue collar jobs. They want big money and jobs they can be lazy at. This is our future, full of broken everything.
Another related problem is that some years ago, the ignorant custom of not refrigerating eggs was adopted by some stores.
It's common in other modern countries for grocery stores to still display cartons of eggs on shelves - unrefrigerated. I was just in England and this practice was common in many popular supermarkets. Eggs are fairly resiliant if they are not cracked and you wash them before opening.
Many countries, most in fact, do not refrigerate eggs.
It's Obama's fault!!!!!