You have your free will! No one is force feeding you!

How does ConAgra comes into this equation? I really don't think they would knowingly use bad eggs and the eggs they do use are pasteurized to my knowledge. However, this scumbag deCoster, should be put in a chicken coop and kept there for the rest of his life. I'd like to know who took those samples for the last couple of years and ignored the salmonella. Whoever did it, lock him/her in the coop too.

I'd like to know the name of every consumer who buys eggs! Do you see how stupid the argument is, it is called consumer demand and no one is forcing anyone to buy their eggs!

Dan-1506871
You have your free will! No one is force feeding you!

So, it OK for a company to sell you effectively poisoned food? You buy your eggs in a grocery store, it says the name of the store, not the farm. Let's just extend your argument, and just don't buy any food.

Dan-1506871
I'd like to know the name of every consumer who buys eggs! Do you see how stupid the argument is, it is called consumer demand and no one is forcing anyone to buy their eggs!

I agree with DaleP. This argument makes absolutely no sense, Dan. No consumer is knowingly buying a product that has such a high likelihood of salmonella. Consumers demand food they can buy in a grocery store since not many can be self sufficient in growing and producing all their own food. As a result, ALL that food should be expected to be safe. End of story. Any other suggestion is silliness.

Dan, you are an utter fool. Do you really think people would knowingly eat contaminated food products? Would YOU? Most people go to a grocery store and purchase items that they trust have been cleared as safe to consume. Did the slime-ball who had many reports of contaminated egges eat his own product after years of paying fines for polluting the environment, selling tainted products, etc. He, you and anyone else directly responsible for producing or marketing eggs that made so many sick need to be force-fed these products until you puke your guts out. Don't give me some rat-hole excuse for being so totally stupid. You're worse than chicken manure. It makes me wonder if you're on their payroll.

I think Austin should eat all of the infected eggs with the same health care plan my employer provides me yeah, zip, zilch, zero, nadda, an aside I got poison oak in early August, I went to Tuality Health care in Hillsboro OR they wanted 260 coconuts for me to see a PA in 2.5 hours, I called Zoomcare at 130 got a 215 APPOINTMENT on a Sunday walked out with a 9 coconut prescription, AND WAIT for this, have nothing in mouth, trust me have NOTHING in YOUR mouth, the visit was 89.00 coconuts. MOUTH EMPTY? a follow up phone call on Tuesday asking me if I was doing better, that is how health care should be

Dear Dan,

When you shop for groceries you should not have to concern yourself with whether or not the food is safe to eat. Sure, no one forces you to eat....but if you don't eat WHAT HAPPENS??!! I hope that you never get poisoned by unsafe food....but every time you eat you take that chance, especially if the are NO SAFETY REGULATIONS! Those of us who care must do everything in our power to protect the world from people like you and DeCoster!

On who's part? The government?

Dan-1506871
On who's part? The government?

A class action suit of about 1500 members, all of whom got sick.

You're defending this companies right to sell tained food? Why?

Dan, shut the @!$%# up. No one cares about your sick comments.

you need to understand Dan is related to John the tan man Boehner son of a cousin married to his sister and now married to his other sister, and his sisters ex, I hope this helps explain Dan's point of view, OH, WAIT it makes no sense, hey Dan! Can you help? wait TW said it best

lol

Rick - you didn't kick him out - he is still there! Maine forced him to vaccinate his birds. Iowa has no egg quality assurance plan.

I hope they are investigating his ohio farms too.

same way the inspectors of the deepwater horizon got there results, rolled up in benjamins with a side of meth......

Tim

It is not only possible but extremely likely that the inspector did not see the results. The results go to the person who pays for the testing ..... that would be the company.

I don't understand, was he force feeding people eggs?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Dan, your an idiot. Tim, FDA didn't have the authority to do inspections before an outbreak, only after, until a recent bit of legislation from earlier this year passed congress. Now they can, its just a matter of actually getting to the point of being able to do the inspections

Doug

The government almost never does the actual testing. The company is supposed test and then take action based on the results of the tests. They did not.

don, you are wrong, the government " agency" always does the testing! The thing that amazes me is the government lemmings who don't understand the whole story! 426 eggs tested positive out of about 80 million! Hmm out of the 80 million eggs, how many got sick from these eggs and then did any die from it! You precious government can not save you! Eventually every one dies, and your government cannot stop this! If you don't want to get sick, live in a plastic bubble!

Just do some research into how many egg farms the precious government has forced out of business!

Dan

You lie with statistics, maybe without even realizing it. 80 million eggs were not tested .... 426 eggs may have tested positive, but that was from a sample of those 80 million eggs. How many more eggs would have tested positive if all of the eggs were tested? You make a ridiculous argument. I know that everyone will eventually die .... during the time I have left I would like some assurance that the egg I eat does not have salmonella. Government is not your enemy .... it is the way that we get together to achieve that which is difficult or impossible to do alone ..... like testing the food supply.

Don, learn to read, have 80 million people died from these eggs. You are a government lemming! Who is forcing you to eat eggs? Raise your own! Wow, don, you have no life if this is the way you live your life!

Dan

You make another ridiculous argument. I want to eat eggs. I want safe eggs. I do not want to raise my own eggs. I want the government to ensure that the eggs I buy are safe. This frees me to live the kind of life I enjoy rather than turn to subsistence farming. Can't you understand that?

Dan....if you weren't so ignorant on how eggs are tested, I would think you are a disgruntled egg producer that the government found to be selling bad eggs and ran you out of business. That's the only conclusion I can come to reading your idiotic arguments.

Dan ... you shout with the anger of a mad man and the pent up words of an ideologue coached by Rupert. Someone who ignores, knowingly and for profit, places toxic products on the free market should not be allowed to participate in it. Salmonella often does such permanent damage to the brain that the afflicted's life is taken from them and they must be cared for as an invalid. So, stfu

Clearly, Dan, you have some undisclosed personal issue that is affecting your judgment as well as your postings. I cannot for the life if me figure out why you'd be SO anti-government that you'd actually be FOR people becoming sick (some of whom are innocent children), possibly permanently disabled or dying. To extend your unbelievable (lack of) logic, that would suggest you think people should NOT use seat belts, NOT visit doctors etc b/c "we're all going to die some day anyway".

Also, if you are SO incredibly anti-government of any kind, why don't you move somewhere else? If you do decide to stay, I would suggest that the only way you can be congruent with your anti-government beliefs is to forego any social security payments, any social security disability (should you become disabled by some tainted food for example) and any Medicare. You should also not make sure of any public transportation, use roads funded by the DOT, make use of the USPS or any services such as fire, police etc. The government is NOT the enemy.

You must either be a paid troll, someone who is not completely balanced mentally/emotionally and/or just trying to push buttons out of some misguided sense of (bad) humor.

i guess i must be like Forrest gump and not be a smart man, but ive never heard of rasing eggs, raising chickens maybe and collecting eggs, rasing a garden maybe

Dr B, now that's telling Dan something maybe that he should have know, if you don't like how the country is RAN, leave, I'm sure there are many places DAN could go too .....

You need to get some facts from farmers on that mr don! Start by asking zeeman egg farm in utah about government regulation!

Dan

It's not really clear what your point is, Dan, but if you are trying to make the point that a regulated business believes it is over-regulated you should think about it a little bit. What business wants more regulation? The regulation is intended to ensure a safe food supply, not to make farmers happy.

The regulation is intended to make insecure people like you feel like they will always be safe with their beloved government taking care of them. Don't buy the eggs if you are so paranoid of getting sick!

Don, Make sure before you leave your house today to go over your safety check list. P.S. make sure you wear your respirator and carry your hand sanitizer and baby wipes with you today and make sure you keep a safe distance from other human beings, you never know what they might be carrying!

Dan, you're a pathetic Corporate Apologist......please, move to central America where your apparent desire for an unregulated, corrupt & dangerous food supply system will best serve you.

No mike, I am here to stay and you and your communist friends can leave my country! I live in Arizona, if your ever down this way, let me know and then we will meet and see who has the right to stay!

1. Corporations primary goals are to make as much money as possible.

2. If consumer health is supported by corporate profit goals, they will act to promote consumer health. If not, consumer health goes.

3. Worker pay and health are similarly supported by corporate goals.

4. Government regulations may be the only way to assure both consumer and worker health.

Dan, would you please stop characterizing yourself as an Arizonan? People who place poison out for the public deserve to be removed from society, not rewarded for it.

Dan-1506871
No mike, I am here to stay and you and your communist friends can leave my country! I live in Arizona, if your ever down this way, let me know and then we will meet and see who has the right to stay!

AH! That explains MUCH. Dan, you are a terrific example of why my family left AZ, despite having built a multi-million dollar dream home which we sacrificed for a fraction of its worth (and no we didn't lose it or sell it short, just walked away from half million of cash in) just to get the hell out of such a back-assword, full of ignorant jerks kind of state. Sad. It wasn't always that way.

DR B You are a good Dimocrat!!!!

bicfj

4. Government regulations may be the only way to assure both consumer and worker health.

Yet federal employee inspectors who get paid the big bucks did not catch this one! You cannot have feds on every street corner finding everything that goes wrong. Sometimes bad things happen. To say some lofty federal office somewhere is going to protect you put you in more danger. Just be smart! Know who you are buying from. Use consumer groups to get info on the businesses. Start up a watch dog group yourself. There are multitudes of ways to combat bad business practices then to create federal agencies who literally do not have one living care about you personally. We as a peole have been so weakened by the concept you need a fed for this and a fed for that that we have become winers when something bad happens. Well when monsanto or ADM or what ever big farming consortium buys politicians to get federal contracts, who then is in control? THe feds arent. History has proven a fed is simply a self centered self preservationist and will do anything to keep their jobs - if that means making people (they serve) wait for things they request from the government. I THINK THE PRIVATE SECTOR EXCEEDS AT ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THE FEDS DO. The feds simply pretend to have jobs so they can play the rest of their day.

Don - you are correct that the farm should have been following some sort of regulation. Many egg farms are successfully self regulating but to do that you have to have integrity. too bad decoster has none. We now have an FDA Egg Safety Rule which will clean up this sort of thing - this program has been extremely successful at the state level in 9 states. Sadly Iowa is not one of them. I'm glad I'm not the guys in the Iowa Ad Dept who failed to get something like this going.

Really? And who is it that buys the eggs? It is called consumer demand!

Dan, you really create some weak arguments.

Profit margins and consumer demand are two very different things.

I doubt demand for this guys product would be there if the consumer were made aware of the ingredients.

Profits margins are enhanced by conning the consumer, cutting corners on hygiene and ignoring best industry practices.

Consumer Demand is based on industry standards that the Government is supposed to enforce since this and many other examples clearly demonstrates the industry cannot police itself.

So you are easily conned? Do you eat eggs? Consumer demand is based on what the consumer demands! The consumer wants eggs (or demands eggs) and an egg farm provides them with the eggs! YOu see how that works!

Dan, your rant displays the uninformed raving of someone who merely want to impose his views on others by drawing attention to himself.

Hey Dan, I DO live in AZ and am ashamed of that lying bitch we have who calls herself a Governor. The economic conditions here (60% of the houses on the market are foreclosure houses) and pin-heads we have in the legislature make us a laughing stock of the nation

Because no human being should ever get sick! The government will heal everyone! blah blah blah

Dan

Your arguments are very unconvincing. Do you actually think that because the government can't heal everyone or prevent every diseased egg that the government should do nothing? All reasonable people understand that absolutes seldom apply to real life. No government regulation makes life perfect, but good regulation makes life better. We want the food supply safer .... we know that perfect is unattainable, and there is always a cost benefit analysis before regulations are put in place. Therefore, we have a safer food supply with FDA regulations than without, and the cost is not great. It's pretty obvious that the price of eggs has not skyrocketed due to regulation.

OSHA is another good example of government regulation. OSHA has not prevented all workplace deaths and injuries, but since OSHA came into existence in the early 1970's workplace deaths have decreased by approximately 80%. You may wish to go back to the bad old days before OSHA regulations, but I do not.

Dan, I'm guessing that you are a tea party kind of guy. Am I right?

Dan, you're a apologist for a corrupt system of food processing. In our 13 trillion dollar economy I doubt it's too much to expect that this industry supply bacteria free food items.

Your comparison is stupid...........

It should read: because no human being in America should intentionally be exposed to a deadly bacteria and the US Government should be given the power to effectively regulate this industry.

BTW: Bush did a great job of rolling back years of food safety regulations and related budgets.

This is what our country is reaping after years of GOP leadership.

Don, I Actually do believe that the government should do nothing! Business will regulate itself! If people get sick from eggs that come from a certain egg farm, then people will buy from a different egg farm. Businesses would have better self regulation than the government could ever do, because they would be out of business very quickly if they provided a poor quality product. Since you will always rely on your government to take care of you, you will never enjoy the qaulity of life that free people have. Just a lemming!

No Dan, you are the lemming in actually believeing that industry will self-regulate. Why do you think the industry doesn't want to be required to tell you where the food comes from, or what's in it, or if it's genetically modified, or radiated.

Good GAWD, you're a total lemming to think all industries won't totally corrupt the system so consumers don't know CRAP about the products they are consuming.

Dude, you're the perfect Corporate Lemming.

Business will regulate itself! Yeah Dan just like wall street did and the banks did and the Oil companies have.

I realize that what I am about to post is in vain for all the government lemmings, but try using some self responsibility and check with your local nutritionist or even your doctor for the steps you can take to prevent sicknesses from foods! Thank you and good bye!

Wow....years and years of inbreeding certainly will bring out the best in some people. Keep living that dream Dan!!!!

Don....

My guess is that Dan is a Freeman living in Arizona. I have dealt with a portion of that group and they believe that America should be as it was when they stepped off the boats at Plymouth and New York in the mid 1600s. I believe now what I believed then...it is paranoia thing.

One can only hope that Dan meant it when he said goodbye. clearly the man is beyond even the lunatic fringe. There is no reasoning with someone who is unbalanced. It's a little like trying to argue with someone who is drunk. Doesn't get you anywhere other than a bad headache from banging your head against a brick wall.

If by some chance Dan is still lurking and/or posting....please please please TRY to use the brain God gave you and maybe even a teeny tiny portion of logic. Perhaps it's not EVERYONE else on this blog that has a problem. Clearly there isn't one person who can agree with you, at least not wholeheartedly. Here's a thought for you: A professor once said that it's "when everyone ELSE in the world seems to be crazy, then perhaps it's you."

OK I wasn't going to chime in but I must.......A couple of things:

1. OK the positive results from this company were results of their own testing, not some federal government agency. There were no FDA regulators in the facility prior to this investigation like one of you said. Eggs up until recently were a product under the auspices of the USDA. Yes Dan is an idiot on this issue and I assume many more. For you bleeding heart liberals out there who think that Dan is this way simple because he is a republican/conservative, I am a conservative who believes in some government regulation/oversight. You are no better than radical muslims who think that because one preacher wants to burn the quran that all Christians are that way.

The changes in egg safety in American producers was actually developed while Bush was in office but as you all know the government runs on its own time-table.

2. Just as with all industry there are folks out there that do not care about safety and such is the case with this egg producer. There are numerous farms in America that produce just as many eggs and do it safely and manage to still make a profit. This company cut corners and it made many people sick. Very sad.

I hope I'm around to know when something happens to Dan or one of his family, loved ones, etc. and he starts whining about "why didn't someone do something".....Arizonans of his ilk rant about property rights, THEIR rights and don't stop to think SOMEONE IS ENFORCING THOSE RIGHTS AND IT'S THE GOV. THAT HE WANTS OUT OF HIS LIFE. It's state gov. in AZ that makes laws that make all the rest of us look stupid; and who the hell does he think is going to enforce those laws if it isn't GOVERNMENT!!

Dan - Jack Decoster is the poster boy for why we need government regulation. He has no personal integrity. The free market has failed to put him out of business despite his past violations of many laws. Why do people buy from him? Because he must lower his price to the point where they overlook all the other stuff. The companies buying eggs from such a disreputable source should be ashamed of themselves and now they are exposed because they are also caught up in the recall.

He should eat a dozen of his own eggs.................raw!!!!

Dan ... certainly those who sicken and die will not buy from your farm, but why should that have to happen and how many lives would it take before it was discovered who was doing it?

This logic is inherently wrong. The tests are of the environment in the henhouse not the eggs, though a positive environmental test SHOULD have triggered egg testing. sure maybe they did a bunch of other tests and came back negative but the number of positives is absolutely HUGE.

Dan, you're an idiot. This company knew about positive salmonilla results FOR 2 YEARS and did.... what was that? NOTHING! And you think they should regulate themselves? Yeah, that will work. Let your kids eat these tainted eggs and see how you feel after one of them gets seriously ill and\or dies.

Of course no one HAS to buy eggs, but I think it's completely reasonable for people to believe the food they are being sold is safe.

Your insults show how short sighted and stupid you really are.

Dan is an example of the average American. Ill-informed, under-educated and cares little about anything other than themselves.

@halseyjr61.... I'm sure he's most definitely a fascist Rethuglican.

no one died from this outbreak.