jwhite1083, if you're saying you quit running your dog, now sit at a desk, and have "lost weight", you'd better get to your doctor fast and check to see just how much muscle you've dropped and fat you've added! Remember, it's normal to be heavier when you're in top shape because muscle is denser than fat! With a dress suit on, an athlete who weighs 220 pounds may look like someone who doesn't exercise that weighs 190, but the muscle tone, heart rate, blood pressure, etc. of the two men is like night and day!
I contend that a lot of obesity problems ar directly tied to ingredients in the food being eaten. If you pick high fructose corn syrup, MSG, or genetically modified foods, prepare to be fat. Eating organic foods will allow your body to recuperate to it's natural state of non obesity. It will take some time though.
Diabetes and Obesity is the direct result of food chemicals that have destroyed the gut(insulin) of the people.
The Billionaire drug makers and FDA KNOW THIS and get rich off this disease.
The diabetes drug makers took in 10 billion$$$$$$ combined in one year with no cure! While the drugs caused heart failure!
A filmmaker has been reversing diabetes WITHOUT medications in now 10 countries worldwide but the drug companies do not promote this see here http://spirithappy.wordpress.com
It will eventually dawn on people that diabetes is the cause of obesity rather than the result of it. I started having issues with my blood sugar, and because my doctor pooh-poohed my concerns and did not explain how I could keep my blood sugar level, the only way for me to keep it level was to eat whenever I felt bad.
I assure you that the peridiabetes (I am making this word up, as there is already a "prediabetes) condition is extremely unpleasant--categorized by fatigue, headaches, and muscle soreness (all of which also led to a lower level of activity). And, yes, I did have the traditional test for blood sugar problems--which turned up nothing as it only tests for diabetes once it has set in. They haven't yet figured out that there is this condition that precedes it.
Only then did I put on weight--largely caused by a futile attempt to keep my blood sugar level by diet. If doctors took people seriously, early on, then they would probably be helped. And, you know what, I would not be surprised if Janet turned out to be partially right and that there is some component to our diets right now (hormones in meat? too much HFCS in all the food we eat) that is causing people to develop this condition that leads to obesity and finally to full-blown diabetes.
You know, you might want to put a teeny bit less faith in doctors--as doctors can only treat what other people have discovered and told them how to treat. Doctors are little puppets--if you don't have something that shows up on their little tests, then they think you are lying, drug-seeking, or just hypochondriacal. When you finally develop what you said you were having trouble with, they never admit that they were wrong. It is just a "coincidence" that you did later develop the problem--as their little test "proved" them right.
Too little is known about what the changes in the American diet--which, yes, were in part caused by the move to big corporate farming and the use of chemicals to increase profits--does to people. And too little is known about diabetes. So, maybe you can stop being quite so dismissive of others (even when they are being pretty histrionic).
They needed a study! Remember when people had common sense? Sit around and become less active but eat the same amount and you are going to gain weight.
Can I get grant money to research something that anyone with a few brain cells already knows?
economykiller--sweetie, this study proves the opposite of what people have believed in the past. People in the past believed that obesity was caused by people eating more calories via fast food, compounded by inactivity during leisure hours (during which they would mindlessly eat while watching TV).
This study proves that people are already eating fewer calories and exercising more during their leisure hours--and yet, people are gaining weight.
You might want to pay attention when you read--because this point is in the article already. They are surprised to find that most people are already eating fewer calories (which is true for me) are more active than they used to be (also true for me) but are gaining weight. Right now, they are attributing it to sitting down at work--soon they may also connect it to working with computers (because computers, like television, stimulate the animal brain by making it think that the person is sitting by a campfire in the winter and needs to store as much fat as possible).
At some point, the pedantic bozos who want to blame obesity on people stuffing their faces with triple whoppers and staring at the television set for long hours will finally have to admit that the increase in obesity is more the result of changes in the environment (what people do at work, and what food they have access to, and what illnesses these things cause) than any behaviors of the fat/lazy/moronic "others" who aren't as thin as they are.
Obesity is to the modern workplace (compounded by the food available to middleclass and lower workers) what black lung is to coal miners. It's an occupational hazard.
sweetie, this study proves the opposite of what people have believed in the past.
Bean@home - Almost nobody who has commented so far actually paid attention to the article. Some people need to brush up on their reading comprehension skills.
The study found adults took in fewer calories in 2004 than they did in 1972, and leisure-time physical activity rose over a similar time period... yet obesity rates continue to rise
Right now, they are attributing it to sitting down at work--soon they may also connect it to working with computers (because computers, like television, stimulate the animal brain by making it think that the person is sitting by a campfire in the winter and needs to store as much fat as possible).
I attribute it to the fact that the majority of people are morons with no determination or fortitude.
We should all try to eat more grains, nuts, fruit, vegies and meat, What the earth provides and less man made ingredients (hormones, preservatives, flour products) Man survived for thousands of years before modernization on such a diet.
I will eat good, natural foods and exercise regularly while you re body sits and thinks its hibernating...ridiculous.
I challenge the fatties who want to believe this to jot down the food they eat daily, its nutritional value and there activity level and compare it to what a person with their RMR should be eating and the suggested split of macronutrients the body needs.
A friend of mine, Joe, was telling me how throughout the day he puts on earphones and does ten minutes of stretches and tai chi each hour as he works at his computer. After his boss got over the surprise of watching him do his "workout", he allowed others in the office to do the same and production has actually increased 8% after only three months! One further side benefit was that Joe began dropping pounds and he now swears he's actually toning up.
Ridiculous, idiotic and completely USELESS article! This article and the people who wrote and approved its printing deserve to be "water-boarded!"
Let's consider "certain parts" of this statement from the article?
"Peopleeat better and exercise more today than they did in the 1970s, yet obesity rates continue to rise,"
Question #1. Exactly WHAT "People" eat better and exercise more?
Question #2. Exactly WHOSE "Obesity rates" continue to rise?
The point is, this statement is "implying" that the "people who eat better and exercise more" are the SAME people "whose obesity rates continue to rise?"
The fact is any study would prove the overwhelming majority of people who eat better and exercise more are definitely NOT experiencing their own "obesity rates continuing to RISE.
Similar studies would easily PROVE that "OTHER people who do NOT eat properly and exercise more" are FAR more likely to see their "obesity rates continue to RISE."
Lumping both of those groups together and seeking "averages" makes absolutely NO sense at all.
The entire premise of this article, along with any "so-called studies" to come up with such IGNORANT averages and assumptions is IDIOTIC.
But hey... it does "make an eye catching headline?" It got my attention, but I wonder how overweight people react to it?
OK, so Who wins? ADVERTISING firms and their clients!!!
More adds at higher prices and larger profits and commissions for everyone involved... well, except for the "overweight readers!"
Why? Simple! This type of article is more of a GIGANTIC DE-MOTIVATOR for overweight people than anything else! Anyone who knows anyone who is obese knows the heavy person did not become heavy overnight; it took years. Changing habits that have been 'cemented in stone", often over many years, can be brutally challenging every minute of every day, from morning 'til night. Obese people are bombarded with "distractions every where they turn" and just a slight nudge can help or hinder their progress.
Then, along comes an article like this? An average overweight person beginning to change eating habits and an exercise program, which is an incredible battle in itself... stops to read an article like this and says, "Wow! See, here I am trying so hard and it turns out I'll probably keep gaining weight anyway! To heck with this diet and exercise stuff... I'll just be a fatty!"
For the "idiots need to put down their forks and exercise more, duh?" camp of followers... in the 70's, roughly 1/3 of Americans were overweight/obese. Today, roughly 1/2 to 2/3rds of American's are overweight/obese. Okay... why have so many (according to the camp of fat-bashers) sane thin people switched camps to the (according, again, to the camp of fat-bashers) stupid fat people camp? Especially since, having been thin, they obviously already knew how to put a fork down and back away from the table? Especially since, according to this already mentioned camp, being thin is merely a math equation that any INTELLIGENT person with a wee bit of WILLPOWER could manage?
I am surprised to read that people eat better today. Maybe some people do because there is more awareness of diets, but I have also read studies where fast foods have grown over the recent years. Also read studies where more and more people are eating out (like fast foods) because they do not have the time in the day (or are just to lazy) to cook. Interesting study but kind of useless in my opinion.
As one who sits on his butt all day at work I can tell you I put on a few pounds and I work out 5-6 days week. Same as I did when I was in college. The only exercise I get at work is walking to the copier. I worked factories in the summer during college and yes you would see a large person here and there. But I have seen a far greater percentage since I started working in an office type setting.
Speedy, Palm Harbor, Florida hit the nail on the head! You cracked it open and exposed it for what it is...a bunch of poppycock! How could anyone possibly conclude that people take in less calories and exercise more now than in the 70's? Polls ask people if they think they're overweight, and a vast majority respond indicating that they are not. How can this be when , clearly, the vast majority of people in the U.S.A. are overweight. As DemocratYes stated, put down the fork and do some damn exercise. When my wife and I go out to eat, we order one entree and still take some food home. Never did that in the 70's... Americans are sucked in by food commercials, concluding that they must have whatever flashes across the screen. Same is true for "I gotta have a bazillion tv channels at a ridiculous monthly cost".
You can exercise more and eat better tasting food and still get fat because food additives, HFCS, MSG, Asparame, and GMO foods. They are all ways to keep one fat. The food industry likes money and if you eat lots of food that tastes good, but has no vitamin content, you will continue to stuff your face to unconsciously try to get the vitamins your body needs. Just like a lab rat. Speaking of lab rats, MSG was designed specifically to make lab rats hungry so they would eat whatever was put in front of them for experiments. Amazing how it appeared in our food supply.
If you look back at photos of people from the 1800's, the early 1900's, regardles of country, you rarely see people who are overweight. Back then, food was pure, of the earth and more over, people tilled the earth to maintain it.
NOTHING was prepackaged to the point where it had a shelf life of ...whenever. NOTHING was ready to eat in a minute and NOTHING was CONTAMINATED the way almost all items in a supermarket are today.
So it's not my fault and I may have a disability claim or possible early retirement claim? Please contact your local attorney!
I have a desk job. I lost 15 lbs...
Weird...
Maybe it's because I don't eat like a pig and run with my dog. 3 times a day. (short runs. He's a lazy ass.)
jwhite1083, if you're saying you quit running your dog, now sit at a desk, and have "lost weight", you'd better get to your doctor fast and check to see just how much muscle you've dropped and fat you've added! Remember, it's normal to be heavier when you're in top shape because muscle is denser than fat! With a dress suit on, an athlete who weighs 220 pounds may look like someone who doesn't exercise that weighs 190, but the muscle tone, heart rate, blood pressure, etc. of the two men is like night and day!
I contend that a lot of obesity problems ar directly tied to ingredients in the food being eaten. If you pick high fructose corn syrup, MSG, or genetically modified foods, prepare to be fat. Eating organic foods will allow your body to recuperate to it's natural state of non obesity. It will take some time though.
Tomorrow's Headline: New Study Suggests If You Hold Your Head Underwater You Drown
Haha! perfect
Diabetes and Obesity is the direct result of food chemicals that have destroyed the gut(insulin) of the people.
The Billionaire drug makers and FDA KNOW THIS and get rich off this disease.
The diabetes drug makers took in 10 billion$$$$$$ combined in one year with no cure! While the drugs caused heart failure!
A filmmaker has been reversing diabetes WITHOUT medications in now 10 countries worldwide but the drug companies do not promote this see here http://spirithappy.wordpress.com
just google SPIRIT HAPPY DIET
Janet, please stop eating the mushrooms in your front yard.
Diabetes is either congenital, or a direct result of insulin resistance often caused by obesity.
Obesity is caused by too much food, and/or not enough exercise.
Type 2 diabetes can be treated and often cured with changes in diet and exercise.
You are a complete retard for thinking anything else.
CaptainObvious--not really a good name for you.
It will eventually dawn on people that diabetes is the cause of obesity rather than the result of it. I started having issues with my blood sugar, and because my doctor pooh-poohed my concerns and did not explain how I could keep my blood sugar level, the only way for me to keep it level was to eat whenever I felt bad.
I assure you that the peridiabetes (I am making this word up, as there is already a "prediabetes) condition is extremely unpleasant--categorized by fatigue, headaches, and muscle soreness (all of which also led to a lower level of activity). And, yes, I did have the traditional test for blood sugar problems--which turned up nothing as it only tests for diabetes once it has set in. They haven't yet figured out that there is this condition that precedes it.
Only then did I put on weight--largely caused by a futile attempt to keep my blood sugar level by diet. If doctors took people seriously, early on, then they would probably be helped. And, you know what, I would not be surprised if Janet turned out to be partially right and that there is some component to our diets right now (hormones in meat? too much HFCS in all the food we eat) that is causing people to develop this condition that leads to obesity and finally to full-blown diabetes.
You know, you might want to put a teeny bit less faith in doctors--as doctors can only treat what other people have discovered and told them how to treat. Doctors are little puppets--if you don't have something that shows up on their little tests, then they think you are lying, drug-seeking, or just hypochondriacal. When you finally develop what you said you were having trouble with, they never admit that they were wrong. It is just a "coincidence" that you did later develop the problem--as their little test "proved" them right.
Too little is known about what the changes in the American diet--which, yes, were in part caused by the move to big corporate farming and the use of chemicals to increase profits--does to people. And too little is known about diabetes. So, maybe you can stop being quite so dismissive of others (even when they are being pretty histrionic).
Too many sweeteners.
They needed a study! Remember when people had common sense? Sit around and become less active but eat the same amount and you are going to gain weight.
Can I get grant money to research something that anyone with a few brain cells already knows?
To steal an old line "I don't know why they call it common sense, it ain't that common any more"
economykiller--sweetie, this study proves the opposite of what people have believed in the past. People in the past believed that obesity was caused by people eating more calories via fast food, compounded by inactivity during leisure hours (during which they would mindlessly eat while watching TV).
This study proves that people are already eating fewer calories and exercising more during their leisure hours--and yet, people are gaining weight.
You might want to pay attention when you read--because this point is in the article already. They are surprised to find that most people are already eating fewer calories (which is true for me) are more active than they used to be (also true for me) but are gaining weight. Right now, they are attributing it to sitting down at work--soon they may also connect it to working with computers (because computers, like television, stimulate the animal brain by making it think that the person is sitting by a campfire in the winter and needs to store as much fat as possible).
At some point, the pedantic bozos who want to blame obesity on people stuffing their faces with triple whoppers and staring at the television set for long hours will finally have to admit that the increase in obesity is more the result of changes in the environment (what people do at work, and what food they have access to, and what illnesses these things cause) than any behaviors of the fat/lazy/moronic "others" who aren't as thin as they are.
Obesity is to the modern workplace (compounded by the food available to middleclass and lower workers) what black lung is to coal miners. It's an occupational hazard.
Bean@home - Almost nobody who has commented so far actually paid attention to the article. Some people need to brush up on their reading comprehension skills.
Bean...Are you kidding me????
I attribute it to the fact that the majority of people are morons with no determination or fortitude.
We should all try to eat more grains, nuts, fruit, vegies and meat, What the earth provides and less man made ingredients (hormones, preservatives, flour products) Man survived for thousands of years before modernization on such a diet.
I will eat good, natural foods and exercise regularly while you re body sits and thinks its hibernating...ridiculous.
I challenge the fatties who want to believe this to jot down the food they eat daily, its nutritional value and there activity level and compare it to what a person with their RMR should be eating and the suggested split of macronutrients the body needs.
where does the money come from to fund these ridiculous studies? honestly, we need a study to tell us that sitting all day will add weight?
Canadian tax dollars are the usual sources of grant funds for Canadian public universities.
Glad to see their country is as efficient and forward-thinking as ever.
Simple. More refined carbohydrates & way more corn sweetners. If you want a fat cow feed it corn.
Well, Duh!!! As one of my English professors used to say, "There is a limit to the profitable elaboration of the obvious.
I was going to say DUH, but you beat me to it.
LOL!!!! Neener neener :-)
You know all the commercials stating the government gives all that money away. I think this study is the result of some of that free money. :)
A friend of mine, Joe, was telling me how throughout the day he puts on earphones and does ten minutes of stretches and tai chi each hour as he works at his computer. After his boss got over the surprise of watching him do his "workout", he allowed others in the office to do the same and production has actually increased 8% after only three months! One further side benefit was that Joe began dropping pounds and he now swears he's actually toning up.
That should translate into a noticeable drop in the cost of health insurance for the company...
Ridiculous, idiotic and completely USELESS article! This article and the people who wrote and approved its printing deserve to be "water-boarded!"
Let's consider "certain parts" of this statement from the article?
"People eat better and exercise more today than they did in the 1970s, yet obesity rates continue to rise,"
Question #1. Exactly WHAT "People" eat better and exercise more?
Question #2. Exactly WHOSE "Obesity rates" continue to rise?
The point is, this statement is "implying" that the "people who eat better and exercise more" are the SAME people "whose obesity rates continue to rise?"
The fact is any study would prove the overwhelming majority of people who eat better and exercise more are definitely NOT experiencing their own "obesity rates continuing to RISE.
Similar studies would easily PROVE that "OTHER people who do NOT eat properly and exercise more" are FAR more likely to see their "obesity rates continue to RISE."
Lumping both of those groups together and seeking "averages" makes absolutely NO sense at all.
The entire premise of this article, along with any "so-called studies" to come up with such IGNORANT averages and assumptions is IDIOTIC.
But hey... it does "make an eye catching headline?" It got my attention, but I wonder how overweight people react to it?
OK, so Who wins? ADVERTISING firms and their clients!!!
More adds at higher prices and larger profits and commissions for everyone involved... well, except for the "overweight readers!"
Why? Simple! This type of article is more of a GIGANTIC DE-MOTIVATOR for overweight people than anything else! Anyone who knows anyone who is obese knows the heavy person did not become heavy overnight; it took years. Changing habits that have been 'cemented in stone", often over many years, can be brutally challenging every minute of every day, from morning 'til night. Obese people are bombarded with "distractions every where they turn" and just a slight nudge can help or hinder their progress.
Then, along comes an article like this? An average overweight person beginning to change eating habits and an exercise program, which is an incredible battle in itself... stops to read an article like this and says, "Wow! See, here I am trying so hard and it turns out I'll probably keep gaining weight anyway! To heck with this diet and exercise stuff... I'll just be a fatty!"
morons!
peace :)
thank you Speedy...morons
For the "idiots need to put down their forks and exercise more, duh?" camp of followers... in the 70's, roughly 1/3 of Americans were overweight/obese. Today, roughly 1/2 to 2/3rds of American's are overweight/obese. Okay... why have so many (according to the camp of fat-bashers) sane thin people switched camps to the (according, again, to the camp of fat-bashers) stupid fat people camp? Especially since, having been thin, they obviously already knew how to put a fork down and back away from the table? Especially since, according to this already mentioned camp, being thin is merely a math equation that any INTELLIGENT person with a wee bit of WILLPOWER could manage?
Just curious.
I am surprised to read that people eat better today. Maybe some people do because there is more awareness of diets, but I have also read studies where fast foods have grown over the recent years. Also read studies where more and more people are eating out (like fast foods) because they do not have the time in the day (or are just to lazy) to cook. Interesting study but kind of useless in my opinion.
As one who sits on his butt all day at work I can tell you I put on a few pounds and I work out 5-6 days week. Same as I did when I was in college. The only exercise I get at work is walking to the copier. I worked factories in the summer during college and yes you would see a large person here and there. But I have seen a far greater percentage since I started working in an office type setting.
Speedy, Palm Harbor, Florida hit the nail on the head! You cracked it open and exposed it for what it is...a bunch of poppycock! How could anyone possibly conclude that people take in less calories and exercise more now than in the 70's? Polls ask people if they think they're overweight, and a vast majority respond indicating that they are not. How can this be when , clearly, the vast majority of people in the U.S.A. are overweight. As DemocratYes stated, put down the fork and do some damn exercise. When my wife and I go out to eat, we order one entree and still take some food home. Never did that in the 70's... Americans are sucked in by food commercials, concluding that they must have whatever flashes across the screen. Same is true for "I gotta have a bazillion tv channels at a ridiculous monthly cost".
Actually Michael-06172005 I didn't state that. I was making fun of that simplistic unhelpful message.
You can exercise more and eat better tasting food and still get fat because food additives, HFCS, MSG, Asparame, and GMO foods. They are all ways to keep one fat. The food industry likes money and if you eat lots of food that tastes good, but has no vitamin content, you will continue to stuff your face to unconsciously try to get the vitamins your body needs. Just like a lab rat. Speaking of lab rats, MSG was designed specifically to make lab rats hungry so they would eat whatever was put in front of them for experiments. Amazing how it appeared in our food supply.
I firmly believe its the food of today.
If you look back at photos of people from the 1800's, the early 1900's, regardles of country, you rarely see people who are overweight. Back then, food was pure, of the earth and more over, people tilled the earth to maintain it.
NOTHING was prepackaged to the point where it had a shelf life of ...whenever. NOTHING was ready to eat in a minute and NOTHING was CONTAMINATED the way almost all items in a supermarket are today.
I'm in total agreement
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I don't know what makes me fat but I know how I lost 11 pounds. If you don't know what it is - http://bit.ly/cUtNx3
No exercise, lack of motivation...all the above. Good idea to get out of the office and walk around the block!
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