Obviously you are the man of the house. Your big job is to go to work, and maybe mow the lawn. If you have no children for the job. While the woman of the house cleans, cooks, shops, pays the bills, makes all drs. appts., provides transportation, laundry, mending, etc. I'd like your version of equal rights.
Mayzey, he's right, women arehaving more anxiety because they are WORKING more, you don;t feel anxiety for housework sorry, (oh know the luandry's not don, im so stressed), is not the same as (tommroow at my job i have ten things to get done or i may be fired).......
Really, you mean all I have to do now is go to work, get a 25% pay raise, mow the grass every week or so and hang out with my buddies a couple nights a week?
Woo HOO! I'll even make the once in a while Mac n cheese dinner and run the dishwasher once a week.
Humby, for your information, women are not only doing housework, but also working, going to school in many circumstances, taking care of the children. I don't know where your living, but id love to only worry about laundry. Get real
What I find disturbing is the way that men claim to love their wives, but have no problem watching them come home from the day job and then work until bed time, while they relax for the evening. They are taking advantage of womens kindness, taking the work they do for granted, show absolutely no concern for her quality of life and expect her to always be cheerful and eager to please, while being treated like a servant! Men would never stand for the lopsided work load of the average couple nowadays. But they call it love when inflicting on women. There are mature, sensable, and fair minded men with integrity in the world, but not many.
Oh here we go- the overgeneralized 'all men are lazy' according to women who are such martyred victims. Get over yourselves- most men have tremendous responsibilities I know and also spend hours at the soccer field with their kids, tending to house chores only they are physically capable of handling and getting up at 2am to their screaming infants. In other words, many men are far more responsible than what is being suggested here and lumping all men into this lazy category is inaccurate and frankly ignorant. If you feel you are being taken advantage of it's because you have made yourself into a victim, teaching your hubby by your behaviors. If you feel something is intentionally being done against you then it's because you are half the problem in a marriage that lacks communication. So grow a pair, stand up and tell it like it is to your mate- but don't sit back and judge off the entire male race by some worn out stereo type that doesn't adhere to reality.
I think you are all a bunch of spoiled cry babies!
Why don't you be more GRATEFUL that you have a washing machine, and food to eat, and just pace yourself in life.
If you want all that responsibility then crack that whip and make your husband help you or don't give him any nookie.
You are undercrediting yourself. We women DO have the power, that's right, so use it to your advantage, and put your husband to work! You just have to know how to convince him to make him think it is HIS idea.
But, I bet if you had to live one week in poverty in a 3rd world country, or even let's say go on Survivor, you would quit your WHINING!!!!
Women would not be getting stressed or get anxiety disorders if they stuck to their natural position: Keeping the kids quite so I can watch the game and getting my food ready. The only stress they should have would be to make sure my beer doesnt get warm.
Stop whining ladies. If you man is lazy then either accept it, work it out or leave him. You aren't going to like this, but the "men are lazy" mantra is a myth. Google Slate - Couch Entitlement if you are interested in actual data rather than hyperbole.
OH please, another study of the obvious? Granted (above) is right. We women have wanted equality, and we have it. However, we all have it equally. Anxiety disorders? I've been anxious about all this living and world since I was a kid, and I'm 50-something right now. I grew up in the-duck-under-your-desk nuclear age--talk about anxiety. Bra burning, equal rights, 80-hour work weeks, raising the kids alone, and all the other accoutrements of daily living. We/I've done the whole nine yards! (and then some.) So have most of my counterparts. Anxiety goes right on the plate with all the goodies.
Please--find something worthwhile to study--for instance, what can we do to make life a little easier on one another? What can we do to keep "talented" CEOs from getting mega-bonuses for ripping off Wall Street? What can we do to prevent mine cave-ins that trap or kill dozens of people? What can we do to detect serial killers or suicide bombers before they do the damage. The answers for these questions aren't quite so obvious, and they might require a little thinking. However, these questions (and possible answers--and WORK to get them) might cause someone to be a little anxious, and we wouldn't want that, now, would we?
Its people like you that inspire women never to give up the women's movement. If men were acting like fathers, then women would not have to raise them alone. Women, in the majority of cases do not leave, its the men.
I'm the one who left the kids' dad. He was an abusive SOB who was as useless as the day was long. I barely got out with my/our life(s). You want to talk anxiety, we can talk anxiety. But I've got better things to do with my life these days. I've worked to put it behind me (30 years ago) and to become a better person, mother, and grandmother. I'm still working at all of it. Anxiety? Who doesn't have it? Let's work on something that we can actually do something about, like living better and taking care of one another. Living well beats the socks off of worrying all the time or taking a pill to checkout of reality.
(I am writing about life experience. I know some folks have medical problems that include anxiety attacks as symptoms, and I do not wish to make light of them. My anxiety is just anxiety with living. It's a pain, but I deal with it. Best wishes to all.)
Amen zapper, I was married to a total jerk for 14 yrs, black eyes, bruises and all. Ive since been on my own and bought MY OWN washing machine, BRAND NEW CAR paid off in less than 3 1/2 yrs, new couch and other expensive items all paid off by ME. NOT any man or the dumb jerk of an ex I married. HE did the BARE minimum while I cut coupons, mowed the grass, trimmed the trees, cleaned the garage, baked bread AND sewed my daughter her fluffy dresses. And the idiot couldnt even say so much as thank you or even spend time with me. I used to get migrains when I was with him and had several "painless" migrains that I told the doc about. Funny when I finally left the jerk after he told ME I was the loser the migrains stopped. I depend on no one, that first marriage taught me a BIG lesson. Men dont cause stress??? Palleeeeese....
Probably because as they step up to take on more roles that have been traditionally men's roles they are finding they are not able to cope as well. Men and women are definitely built differently and think differently. Like it or not, there are certain things that are better left to men.
Really 'truthspeak' this attitude is not even 'truthiness'! What work/thoughts would you like us to leave to you? Which worry would you like to take on? If men are better at certain things then why are they not stepping up! There are more female college graduates and now for the first time more PhD's awarded to women then men? As far as I can see many men have the time to play on their Xbox or watch/attend sporting events while we run the kids to soccer and bring home the smaller paycheck. You are right we are wired differently thank god someone will get up with the baby in the middle of the night!!!!!
Could a shift in cultural values be to blame? [8th paragraph]
All of these factors hit women harder than men because, experts are learning, we may be wired to worry. Just-released research from the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia suggests that the female brain may be more sensitive to stress hormones and less able to adapt to high levels of them. We also have a well-known propensity to ruminate and let problems roll around and around in our heads, says Nolen-Hoeksema: “We’re more aware about our feelings, and we get more hung up on them than men do.”
With apologies to the rare man who actually does share the work-load equally:
Problem is that although women have taken up the load traditionally done by men, ie bringing home the bacon, men are loath to take up the burden traditionally done by workmen, ie house work and child rearing. It doesn't help that traditional women's work has always been horrendously under-valued, and that even today, the term itself - women's work - is used in apejorative manner,
One of my pet peeves is the term "he helps out around the house," because the implication is that it's HER job to do all the housework, and he gets enormous kudos if he does two loads of laundry on Saturday. Sorry, folks, but we're well past the era of a separation of labor into men's and women's chores. And until men do their fair share, which means better than twice what they do now, according to every survey taken in this country, ever, women will have problems such as those discussed in this article.
And to those men on this board who have the hutzpa to list exactly how little they do around the house, pat themselves on the back and act as if they shared the work-load equally with their wives: shame on you. If you have even an ounce of honesty in your bodies, make a list of what needs to be done around the house on a regular basis, then check off the chores you do, and see how much is left. That should be an eye opener for the vast majority of you!
Not all anxiety is caused by not having a life, or having a too busy life. There can be physical reasons for it, so don't condemn people who have anxiety attacks, etc. For instance, I was filled with anxiety. My doctor ran some simple tests, and it was discovered I was low in vitamin D and the b vitamins. I now take shots once a week of the b vitamins, and I take a drop of vitamin D3 a day. My anxiety has been greatly helped. I can tell a big difference in the day or two before I need my b shot. I start getting anxious. It is so easy to condemn others. Some 36 years ago, I was having heart problems. The ER people were all set to tell me it was anxiety. Then then ran tests. It turned out it was my heart after all. They didn't think it was because I was in my early 30s. My heart problem was a previously undiagnosed congenital heart defect. Doctors, need to stop making snap judgements about their clients, and really examine them well when someone comes in and says they feel anxious or says they think they have a heart problem.
Same here. If your brain makes too much cortisol, it's not something you can fix by lighting candles and meditating to mood music or talking to a therapist. I have a great life and I balance my family and work well, but I'm still on a low dose of Wellbutrin to keep the anxiety symptoms at bay. Interestingly, I have a mitral valve prolapse (a minor, non-dangerous heart value aberration that is far more common in women than men) and a cardiologist once told me that MVP and anxiety disorder often go hand-in-hand.
TraceyS: Yes, mitral valve prolapse not only is far more common in women than men, but also is associated with anxiety disorder. That's why a thorough physical examination should be part of the evaluation of anxiety symptoms.
I really dislike studies such as these. Now, if I or any woman fails at anything, all someone has to say is..."Well, she's a woman. She can't handle it. Studies show...". Well, I handle it just fine, thank you. And I don't need meds. Am I luckier than others, maybe. But I believe it's more to do with having my priorities straight.
And I can already see that this comment string is going to turn into a misogynist rant by troglodytes.
Iola, there is a HUGE difference between normal worry and an anxiety disorder. Obviously, you've never had one. Attitudes like yours is why people don't want to seek help.
I was just diagnosed with a panic disorder and severe anxiety and yes, I am on medication. Two of them, in fact (but I haven't had to take the one for a couple weeks). It isn't just your mind that is affected. A real honest to goodness anxiety disorder has physical symptoms just like any other disease. My panic attack was so severe, I ended up in the emergency room.
For me, this past month since my diagnosis has been physically and mentally debilitating for me to the point where I could not physically function without taking medication. I also could not sleep. You can't just "shake it off" or will it to stop. Doesn't work that way. Anyone who uses this as an excuse to fail won't past muster at a doctor's office. You can't fake this stuff. I don't know anyone who would want to fake this, either.
Unless you've had this yourself, you really have no clue at all. Get off your high horse.
msannomalley you are so right on target here! All of us worry but an anxiety disorder is so much more. My panic attacks left me so drained that I could not function and I was always afraid of having another one and if anyone looked at me I thought I was going to die! I now take a medication and it has saved my life. I am 46 years old and wondered my whole life what is wrong with me until I finally got a really good Dr. who figured it out....and yes not all meds work for everyone...I had to try 3 different kinds to find the one that worked for me...of course I still worry sometimes like most people but I am free of those crazy and irrational fears and can enjoy my life now....it's been 5 years now since I had a panic attack.
My POINT ladies is that this study becomes yet another argument against which we find ourselves having to defend our gender. It had nothing to do with your individual diagnoses.
Neither gender is better than the other, but this study might lead an idiot to believe that women are the weaker sex. That we are biologically incapable of handling everyday stressors. Which brings me back to my original statement that I dislike these studies and I really dislike the way the media presents it.
Now that I have checked, "Dorking around with anti-feminists online" off of my to do list, I can move on to more important things to do.
Lola, I understand your point, but you can't worry about what the idiots will think. We've spent too much time as women trying to prove ourselves (which we've done) while pleasing others (which is a waste of time except with your immediate loved ones). Men have their gender-linked burdens to bear as well...they still commit 95% of violent crime, and that is directly linked to the way they are wired.
Thank you Tracey. I know it shouldn't phase me. But it does. If a woman has any success in the corporate world, all a man has to say is, "She slept her way to the top." And there goes all her credibility. If a man marries a woman ten years his junior, he's a husband. If a woman marries someone ten years her junior, she's a 'Cougar'. And there's many more charming epithets that are hurled around at random.
Anyway. I've had my rant for the moment. I will now enjoy family time with the most wonderful man in the world who brought home dinner.
I agree about the "cougar" label. Can't STAND it. My husband is 10 years younger than me, we've been together nine years and have a child together. I fell in love with his person, not his age. The "cougar" thing implies that I'm putting on Jimmy Choos and lingerie and seducing him around the martini shaker at night, when in reality we're just building a life together.
When I was 15, I suddenly began to suffer panic attacks for fear of a heart attack. Because of them, I was only eating about one meal every day or two, my arms and legs became very cold and stiff, and I regularly felt chest pain and palpitations. Even when my mother assured me I was fine, I forced myself to not believe her since my life was possibly on the line.
After nearly a month of constant fear and a buzzing head due to out-of-control adrenaline, I finally wound up in the E.R. after freaking out in a noisy restaurant. While all I really needed was a doctor to confirm that I was in ship-shape, I was prescribed with some lorazapam 'just incase.' I've since had it under control without the need for medication, but I still hold on to it, since my panic attacks normally come from nowhere.
I agree that you really can't shake off a panic attack, since it is different from normal worry, like worried what to do for dinner or if you'll be late to something. In my case, my panic was caused by the fear of death. Doctors themselves say it is one of the worst feelings to ever experience, and they were surprised I hadn't hastened my death through suicide after being in constant fear for over a month. Fear of death, doctors say, will often seize a person's mind, freeze their lifestyle, and possibly cause their death either through suicide or even hypothermia (I kinda experienced that). So if anyone calls you a wimp for having panic attacks, they're the real wimp, since they likely don't know what it's like to feel like you're dying.
The pace of life just speeds up. Expectations rise. Society gets ever more crowded. This causes some to respond by breathing faster. Getting ready to race. This leads to hyperventilation. Hyperventilation reduces co2 levels in the blood and brings on anxiety and panic. No mystery.
We, male and female, have plenty of tools to use to ward off impinging stressors. I can't list them all here but offer some suggestions.
You pay for your communication devices and connection services. Anything that rings, buzzes, or beeps can be turned off. There is no law against not answering your phone. Respond to emails in batches, not each time one plops into your in-box. Cut down social-networking participation. Do you really need to broadcast that you just ate a pistachio ice cream cone or learn that someone else did? Limit exposure to upsetting news or "entertainment." Find that tv news coverage of a child-kidnapping has lasting effects on your psyche? If you must, read about it instead. I loved "Law and Order," but the second time I watched an episode of gory "Criminal Minds" I said: "What am I doing to myself?"
Make room in your life for appreciation of beauty. It seems to be hard-wired in our brains and can be had, for free, out-doors. Even if you reside in a decayed environment, locate a park and watch birds, admire greenery, appreciate a pool of water, and soak in tranquility. Get a small plant and watch it grow. Find inexpensive venues where you can enjoy the talent of artists. Find music that touches you; ditch the jangling stuff.
Re-evaluate relationships. If a person is abusive, get away or absolutely minimize contact. Too much sentiment and unreflective caving in to social pressures and we end up sticking with mates merely to exhibit that we have them, have children to please relatives or because 'everyone else is pregnant,' or participate in social events because it is expected that all our relatives must "show up at Thanksgiving." If you feel that you must attend that party, plan a time limit and stick to it.
Cut back on or eliminate alcohol use. Women are more vulnerable to alcohol's effects, and never ever should try to match male imbibers drink-for-drink. From hangovers to depressive effects to damaged livers, alcohol abuse has a big price. Smoking marijuana can precipitate panic attacks in some people, so that is not a sensible alternative. For all substances of abuse, women get sicker quicker. If you cannot cut back without discomfort, seek help NOW. Treatment works.
Don't accumulate too much stuff. This year's must-have items turn into "soooo last year." You will have more living/closet space as well as save money. This leads one to consider wise purchasing in general.
And, don't wait until January 1, 2011 to implement new coping modes. Try adopting a few now.
"Read poetry. Go to the park on a pleasant day. Lie down in the grass. Look at the clouds."
When you've got young children, a full-time job, a household and a budget to manage, those things become just one more task to add to your already too-full to-do list. And it's not going to help you if your brain just produces too much stress hormone.
Hence my comment about not letting social pressure determine your childbearing. You do not have to become pregnant to please other people. This is an ancient social force, but now there options.
TraceyS, if you are trying to do all of those things alone, take a hard look at what is creating the situation. If you find yourself having to over-perform, someone else is under-performing. Set limits on the demands of others--learn to say "No" firmly, and insist that partners do their part--like pay child support or take on responsibility for specific household chores or take the children out of the house so you can sleep in Saturday morning. Yes, you very likely are able to go to a park. Those relatives who kept asking "So, when are you going to start a family?" should be asked to help with children's care. Join with other mothers in a cooperative baby-sitting effort. Get professional help if you simply cannot cope with three kids under age four.
But, do not shift responsibilities to an older child. Than eight-year-old daughter whom you ask to watch her three- and four-year-old brothers is not only too young for the responsibility but also is very likely to resent her situation when she is older.
I am not diagnosed with anxiety. I don't have health insurance and can't afford to see a doctor (this is no comment on the political situation right now) but if I could afford to see a doctor I would. I would prefer not to be on medication, but I have tried meditation and relaxing and it only helps so much. When I was 16 and had my first panic attack I didn't know what it was. I couldn't breath the world was spinning...it was terrible. For the most part I have my panic attacks under control and I'm usually able to push off full panic mode until I'm alone. Don't judge these people because you do not suffer from anxiety, you have no idea what it feels like. The best way I can describe it is falling like someone just pulled the rug out from under you quick and hard, I feel like I'm stationary but everything else around me is spinning. With really bad ones I'm afraid they'll never stop, but they always do. I refuse to feel ashamed because I know its not my fault, but I wish other could accept that we are not all the same.
I have been diagnosed with an anxiety disorder by multiple doctors and put on prescriptions that made it all worse. The best thing I have found is a walk outside ALONE, yoga and exercise! I know it is hard to make the time but in just a few weeks you will feel the difference. Studies have shown exercise is AS effective as drugs. Good luck and deep breaths.
Thanks Kariology I do keep meaning to exercise, but no more excuses! At the very least it should help me sleep at night : ) I like yoga, but loved tai chi in college. I actually contemplated taking it again without the credit just so I could have it for another semester, but alas its a waste of money. Perhaps when things are better I can sign up for a night session.
I used to be stressed all the time it didn’t matter that it was becauseof a small thing or a big thing. Every time when someone would cut me off while I was driving for example my heart would just race and my I was getting filled with rage and stress it’s such an ugly dark feeling that also affected my personal life. On random times my heart would poke and palpitate out of nowhere and I felt that was jumping out of my chest. I had it checked out and the doctor said it was anxiety and gave me some pills which I took and it made it go away. But if you stop taking them it's just a temporary fix!!! It comes back next week to hunt you again. I started to read more about this and I changed my food and drinks (used to drink Coke a lot) and even the salt I use to cook with (I am using sea salt now). I meditate every day and I don’t exercise yet but my head feels so clear and my heart so calm I am myself surprised. Eating lots of green raw natural items and meditation for at least 20min a day me got me off the pills. Always try to stay with the natural side rather than the pill side for the longer road ahead.
For those that criticize others because they have a condition and their lives are unhappy because of this, you should be ashamed of yourself because you aren’t helping anyone, if anything you are contributing to the problem with your negative attitude.
Ummmm? What would our grandmothers' say: eat healthy, exercise, do something useful-something for someone else, learn something new, figure out what you CAN control and go for it.... Get out of your head- make a friend, turn off all that cra.... phone/computer/tv etc... and go for a walk, feed the birds, write, read, read, read, grow a spiritual side, so many things to be done that would feel good like visiting the elderly or tutoring.... be a friend to myself, give myself good advice then I can help myself and others.... so simple, what makes it hard today? Do i want to analyze that or just repeat the above list which works for me..... And ZUMBA! look it up go have fun! Feel free to vote and support causes that matter and help us!
Yes, that's probably what our grandmothers would say. Luckily, we know now that things aren't always that simple and that there's nothing wrong with taking appropriate medications for health problems, such as anxiety disorders.
You people who judge other with panic attacks have no idea what you are talking about. Stress levels and the amount of work expected from everyone in the current economic environment has everyone living with stress. High levels of stress can take 10 years off you life. Most women bear the biggest part of the burden in raising the kids, taking care of the house and in some cases taking care of elderly parents both physicially and in some cases financially. Until you have walked in their shoes I suggest you keep you toxic comments to yourself.This on top of doctors who don't have a clue and think the answer to everything is "you are depressed". They put you on an anti-depressent that doesn't work and in some cases leads to suicide. I recently had a friend who i had known since for close to 35 years. She had everything and shot herself in the head because of the idiot doctor who diagnosed her with depression rather than generalized anxiety disorder and panic attacks. Doctors now don't listen to the patients they just prescribe the drugs that the drug company marketing reps bring the most lunches and paid vacations.
Reaves, you have serious issues. I can understand you hate men because he didn't give you child support. But you know what... you should have hired a better lawyer if you are such a baddass female. oh and by the way, do you hit your boyfriends over the head with how awesome you are? I'm sure it hasn't gotten old yet... hearing you brag about yourself.
HUMANS ARE EMOTIONAL BEINGS, NOT JUST WOMEN. It's amazing to me how women have convinced themselves that they are so much better at everything than men are. Everyone is an individual, and not everyone is as intelligent in all areas as other people. Reaves, noone wants to be with you because you say things like, get a life, and little fella. I'm so sure you're a real class act that everyone wants to hang around.
In the end, I didn't need his money. And, for your information, all child support cases in the state of Florida are handled the same way, no matter how much money you have. I am very happily married. Im sure your such a class act that you can't take the heat on you. Remember, Im not the only one who has not agreed with your posts. And, I do think women are the superior beings, and so does my husband.
First, I'm a guy. Second, I'm pretty sure I have "generalized anxiety disorder." When your doctor gives you klonopin and zoloft, that's a pretty good tip off. The nature of my job is responsible, I think. I'm a disability advisor and my job is to help persons with disabilities find resources, services, agencies and programs that will help with their rent, utilities, phone bill, medical issues, legal matters...ANYTHING, in short. So, when my phone rings, it's NEVER good news.
Reason I mention all that is because MANY of my callers exhibit anxiety disorder symptoms. Who can blame them? Often, their lives are changed in an eye blink from normal to any condition shy of death, and it's for the rest of their lives!
The world, as it applies to the US, is far different now than it was just one generation ago. But the perceived threats to "normalcy" are all around us now. Jobs, money, children, politics, bills, mortgage, health care, aging parents...you name it. ALL of these cause anxiety that we sometimes can't do a damn thing about, so it eats us up from the inside. We're afraid of so many things. Contaminated foods, pollution, the guy down the block that owns 10 or 12 guns...and is a little "unstable."
Some will claim that how men and women handle anxiety is biological. I think it's more situational, and all these "threats" from outside cause the anxiety, whether it's male or female. Maybe we have to go all the way back to caveman days to explain it. The male of the species is "wired" to handle external threats and to protect the clan. Maybe that's why men are supposedly better at handling anxiety.
We may not need men, we may or may not want them. You can't handle the fact that unlike the past, we do not NEED yall, now, its a matter of whether or not we want you. There are wonderful and great men.....just not in abundance.
Anxiety happens when there is no clear cut societal role for a group of individuals. Women used to have a defined role and they were good at it. Now, they're thrashing around trying to find a place in society that isn't all things to all people.
Uh paleeze!! Get over yourself. A woman now has a choice to who SHE wants to be. I am a woman, so please do not preach to me on what my role should be. Get a fricken life. Some might be thrashin around because of no help from men, but that too is ok, because guess what ......we are learning to do it by ourselves, and with grace, class, and dignity.
Reaves is a woman, so don't preach to her. In other words, don't ever express your opinion because it's wrong. When you don't have a penis, you are suddenly correct about EVERYTHING.
To Granted.....Let me tell you something. It is not equal today. Women still take on the majority, especially single mothers, who get no child support. I just graduated, thank god, and now have a great job, but remember working full time, going to school full time, never getting a penny from child support, and the slacking state of Florida not going after the father. I remember the stares I would get using a food card (EBT) from those making minimum wage at the grocery stores. The snide comments made me come unglued. Why was I getting persecuted when I was doing everything right, going to school, working, taking care of my twins,etc, and the father not having to go through anything. Unless pulled over for a traffic violation or worse, the state would not go arrest him for non payment. Dont tell me thats equal buddy. Dont want to hear it. I can now buy and sell him.
Reaves...WAY TO GO! I'm in FL too, and I KNOW the inadequate support you received. Florida is 49th in the nation in the quality of it's social programs and fightin' hard for 50th! Congratulations for hangin' in there, obviously working your butt off and reaching a hard fought goal.
Another sexist article about how women are more likely to experience X because they are more in tune with their body/mind/emotions than men are. What a complete load of garbage. I agree that anxiety is totally real, and felt by both sexes, classes, and all races. When was the last article that said that men were more likely to experience a positive trait? Umm, never. Never ever? Never never. Maybe women would notice that men have these same problems, if women weren't too busy discounting what men are saying. Oh wait that's right... Men just become "unstable" when we have problems and should be shunned.
Once again, whomever responded to me, didn't actually hear what I was saying. And calling me "hysterical" as in going crazy is not an acceptable viewpoint to what I was saying. In point of fact, you are merely part of the problem. You completely missed the point and that is, Anxiety is real for everyone, and not just for women. The other point that I was making is that I know that men are great and wonderful. I know this because I am constantly treated like crap by the likes of YOU! Maybe you should ask yourself why ANY man would want a relationship other than for kids or sex. Friends are totally better for getting rid of loneliness than a relationship. WHY? Because when a man gets into a relationship, they instantly go from "aww he's awesome" to "the guy I'm dating, that's always slightly wrong, that hasn't put a crown on my head yet." If anything women have become more anxious because guys have figured out that we don't need a woman to be complete. Women don't add anything to a guys life except stress, anxiety, frustration. That first flirt/smile you get from someone is as good as it will ever get.
AAww, have you gotten burned? Well so sorry. We all have. You are saying that women only bring stress, anxiety, and frustration? Sounds like you do need meds. Strong women don't need a crown, but respect. And, you really wonder why your single? I think I know!
For years I suffered from anxiety, I saw counselors and even developed a neurological disorder that doctors would tell me was caused by my "anxiety". I finally found a doctor who would listen to me and all my symptoms and despite my thyroid levels showing up as normal on my bloodwoork, I was put on thyroid medicine for hypothyroid and there was my miracle cure. It was my thyroid the whole time causing all of these weird symptoms. My neurological disorder also dissappeared. Unfortunately, if I stop taking my medication, my symptoms come back, all of them. I have no history of thyroid issues in my family so what caused it? An environmental trigger.
There are so many chemicals and pollutants messing with our hormones that no wonder anxiety is on the rise. Ladies, have your doctors check your thyroid and see if it's the cause before going on anti-anxiety medication. That stuff messes with your brain chemistry. Avoid it all costs.
My mother in law had her doc want to prescribe klonopan and prozac....she too found out, 5 years from onset, her problem was her thyroid. Anxiety wasn't her only symptom....
Glad you found it was your thyroid before you started a prescription. I know a person who has been taking an anti-anxiety med...it's nasty stuff, so nasty her therapist passed away and her MD was prescribing it because she HAD to, otherwise she'd end up hospitalized due to withdrawal.
well good luck with Dr's I've been in cronic pain for 10yrs now. I can't get disability, it's work or die. Dr's don't know much about pain, how could they?
Many of us commit suicide I consider it a few times a week. My mother was one of those who did nothing but criticize men. So I avoid women, and men and children. When my 8hrs is up I hide, and wait for the pain to ease up, it never does.
People need to help each other, the fatcats make loads of money dividing us, making us fear each other. Turn off the TV, and listen to someone. Maybe even your self.
Quite true. The media uses fear to grab our attention. No thanks to crime shows (doesn't matter whether it's fiction) or slashers. The more "interesting" and rarer crimes get priority who'd be interested by the murder of an old man? Unless it wasn't brutal no allot of people. The murder of a hot young woman is guarantied to get more viewers. Actually 80% of murder victims were male. The rise in anxiety disorders in women is a direct result of this. Because men are portrayed by the media of being capable of defending themselves the effect of this imposed paranoia is rather than being afraid of walking next to hedge rows in an urban park the rise of fire arm sales. Owning a gun mean your ten times more likely to be shot. Logically if you threatened an armed robber with a gun he is more likely to fire and probably won't hesitate for long och.
Rico, she doesn't have to date , which Im sure she does, to be totally satisfied within her life. See women are like that, we don't have to sleep with a hundred guys, or be married to feel good about their lives. Now, I have gotten through alot, and I have been through great stress, but it was worth it to graduate and get a great job. And for the record, only a real man can appreciate a strong, confident woman, maybe your sad that your not one of those men.
Reaverevees going on again about who is a real man... True, you don't have to date to be whole. And reaves, not every guy sleeps with hundreds of women.... maybe it's just the guys you go after. the "real" men. lol you're actually getting more pathetic the more I read your dribble. It's kinda funny in a way though. I love how people have to bring up single mothers to prove how strong women are. This is why I tell guys not to have kids in the first place. The chances that they grow up under your roof is slim at best.
You sound like a man that needs serious counseling. Single mothers are strong, stronger than you will ever know. You tell men not to have children? WOW. Do you tell them to not have sex unless they can support the children that perhaps they may make? You are just backing up what Im saying. You are making this oh so much fun.
This is our American society's fault. Pick up any magazine and it will always have articles promoting the Super-Woman Myth: Multitask while this, multitask while that, make the most of your time, look sexy, be thin, be professional, be a mother, be a lover, put up with life's stress the productive way, etc., etc. Women are constantly pushed into being more competitive, more aggressive, more productive, both as a professional and a homemaker. There is so much a human being can take!!!
In no other country you see this much pressure on women. We are killing ourselves just to prove to others and ourselves that we can and should be a Super-Woman. STOP doing this to yourselves!!! Don't you see that it is wrong?? That's the reason for the increase of heart attacks in our women. That's the main reason for anxiety. That's one of the reasons why so many marriages are falling apart. STOP. THINK: you, women, owe it to yourselves. How much longer are you going to be played like a fiddle? I don't see men doing half of what is expected of women. I don't see men multitasking, much less having anxiety attacks.
Granted: our country's current jobless situation is not something to sneeze at, but as soon as things begin improving, these heart attacks and anxiety attacks in women will not decrease. Who are we kidding? This is not right! On top of that ,women are still getting paid less than their male counterparts... For what?? A heart attack? Anxiety? Stress? Women: time to slow down, time to tell society: No more!!!!
Women are probably better at multi-tasking because we use the two halves of our brain more equally - or at least the interactions between the two halves is more efficient.
My mother had panic attacks, and even though I knew the symptoms, the first time I experienced one, I went to the emergency ward.
My mother never worked outside of the house, and I'm a college professor.
People who want to regard anxiety and panic disorders as a recent phenomenon brought on by women trying to do it all, are just wrong. Its recent recognition does not preclude its prior existence. It's a medical condition.
And there is a genetic component to anxiety, depression, and many of the various mental conditions. Your vulnerability to panic attacks is likely related to your mom suffering from the condition too.
I have lived with panic disorder for almost 20 years. Although I appreciate the sentiments of those of you who say, "drink some tea, look at the clouds, chill out, reprioritize", my response to you is: if you haven't walked in my shoes, then don't think you know how to solve my disorder. I come from a regular family and have had a pretty regular life. There is no outside 'reason' why I should have this disorder. But for some reason my mind processes stress and anxiety differently than those of you who have never experienced panic disorder. I have tried everything from yoga to meditation to teas to quitting jobs and relationships, anything to stop the panic attacks that would sometimes occur up to 7 times a night for NO APPARENT reason. My weight dropped, my self-esteem plummetted, my friends and family didn't know what to think. The ONLY thing that helped was a pill. I hate pills. I don't even take them for headaches or regular aches and pains. But this disorder can be debilitating and I just wanted to have a regular day and a night's sleep. All I ask again, is that if you have never experienced what it's like, then don't judge and don't assume.
Well said. When I had terrible panic attacks, I lost nearly 20 pounds, slept only about 2 hours a day or less, lost self asteem, used my inhaler at least 4-5 times a day, and cut myself off from friends and became hostile to family. With little sleep and food, it made my stress even worse.
All I really needed was a doctor to run a few tests to convince me I was fine, but my mother tried a few of her own methods to 'cure' me of my panic, which caused me to suffer from panic attacks even longer since she didn't want to take me to the clinic. She almost refused to take me to a doctor, convinced I was fine, while I don't think she knew how much I was suffering. Several times I would take a knife to my throat and hold it there, wondering if it would be worth it. I had become so afraid of death, I was almost finished with waiting for it to happen that I would do it myself.
I finally managed to have my father, who really saw me suffering, take me to the hospital's E.R. when I ran out of a noisy restaurant and began to pace back in forth in the parking lot, clutching my chest. When the doctors told me I was fine, I could breathe a sigh of relief. That, and a long-awaited good night's sleep, was the best medicine I could ever ask for. So this is my advice for those of you who suffer from similar situations: go to a doctor! That usually does the trick, and you'll be able to learn early on if there is a problem or not.
I know this is going to start an uproar, however it needs to be stated.
Anti Anxiety meds and antidepressants are SCARY....and I know several people who started taking them and stopped.
3 of the 5 I know smoke marijuana....at night. It stops the anxiety and they all sleep again. One told me her therapist would prescribe it for her if it were legal, and wouldn't tell her to stop.
On the flip side of that....it causes anxiety in some.
Yes that's true "weed" weirds me out completely....our brain chemistry is very different and what works for some will not work for everyone....find what works for you and stick with it!
Alcohol can also dull feelings of anxiety and stress.
Both alcohol and marijuana are only temporarily masking the medical condition - and can often worsen symptoms in the long term. You still need professional help.
Equal rights ladies. Join the party.
Obviously you are the man of the house. Your big job is to go to work, and maybe mow the lawn. If you have no children for the job. While the woman of the house cleans, cooks, shops, pays the bills, makes all drs. appts., provides transportation, laundry, mending, etc. I'd like your version of equal rights.
Go MAYZEY!! Couldn't agree more. He has no idea.
Mayzey, he's right, women arehaving more anxiety because they are WORKING more, you don;t feel anxiety for housework sorry, (oh know the luandry's not don, im so stressed), is not the same as (tommroow at my job i have ten things to get done or i may be fired).......
Really, you mean all I have to do now is go to work, get a 25% pay raise, mow the grass every week or so and hang out with my buddies a couple nights a week?
Woo HOO! I'll even make the once in a while Mac n cheese dinner and run the dishwasher once a week.
You are so freakin clueless!!!
Humby, for your information, women are not only doing housework, but also working, going to school in many circumstances, taking care of the children. I don't know where your living, but id love to only worry about laundry. Get real
Reaves +1
humby (& other men), We work 40-50 hours per week for our employer and then work another job (home) for our husbands & families.
What I find disturbing is the way that men claim to love their wives, but have no problem watching them come home from the day job and then work until bed time, while they relax for the evening. They are taking advantage of womens kindness, taking the work they do for granted, show absolutely no concern for her quality of life and expect her to always be cheerful and eager to please, while being treated like a servant! Men would never stand for the lopsided work load of the average couple nowadays. But they call it love when inflicting on women. There are mature, sensable, and fair minded men with integrity in the world, but not many.
Oh here we go- the overgeneralized 'all men are lazy' according to women who are such martyred victims. Get over yourselves- most men have tremendous responsibilities I know and also spend hours at the soccer field with their kids, tending to house chores only they are physically capable of handling and getting up at 2am to their screaming infants. In other words, many men are far more responsible than what is being suggested here and lumping all men into this lazy category is inaccurate and frankly ignorant. If you feel you are being taken advantage of it's because you have made yourself into a victim, teaching your hubby by your behaviors. If you feel something is intentionally being done against you then it's because you are half the problem in a marriage that lacks communication. So grow a pair, stand up and tell it like it is to your mate- but don't sit back and judge off the entire male race by some worn out stereo type that doesn't adhere to reality.
Why is anxiety amongst women on the rise?
The answer is because of Sarah Palin. She gives women a bad rap.
No, no, no....women's anxiety is on the rise because men drive us crazy.
I think you are all a bunch of spoiled cry babies!
Why don't you be more GRATEFUL that you have a washing machine, and food to eat, and just pace yourself in life.
If you want all that responsibility then crack that whip and make your husband help you or don't give him any nookie.
You are undercrediting yourself. We women DO have the power, that's right, so use it to your advantage, and put your husband to work! You just have to know how to convince him to make him think it is HIS idea.
But, I bet if you had to live one week in poverty in a 3rd world country, or even let's say go on Survivor, you would quit your WHINING!!!!
Women would not be getting stressed or get anxiety disorders if they stuck to their natural position: Keeping the kids quite so I can watch the game and getting my food ready. The only stress they should have would be to make sure my beer doesnt get warm.
A real man does not need to be a cruel bully to feel good about himself. Man up, unless you actually are about 12.
Stop whining ladies. If you man is lazy then either accept it, work it out or leave him. You aren't going to like this, but the "men are lazy" mantra is a myth. Google Slate - Couch Entitlement if you are interested in actual data rather than hyperbole.
Or maybe more young people just want to get on Xanax....
OH please, another study of the obvious? Granted (above) is right. We women have wanted equality, and we have it. However, we all have it equally. Anxiety disorders? I've been anxious about all this living and world since I was a kid, and I'm 50-something right now. I grew up in the-duck-under-your-desk nuclear age--talk about anxiety. Bra burning, equal rights, 80-hour work weeks, raising the kids alone, and all the other accoutrements of daily living. We/I've done the whole nine yards! (and then some.) So have most of my counterparts. Anxiety goes right on the plate with all the goodies.
Please--find something worthwhile to study--for instance, what can we do to make life a little easier on one another? What can we do to keep "talented" CEOs from getting mega-bonuses for ripping off Wall Street? What can we do to prevent mine cave-ins that trap or kill dozens of people? What can we do to detect serial killers or suicide bombers before they do the damage. The answers for these questions aren't quite so obvious, and they might require a little thinking. However, these questions (and possible answers--and WORK to get them) might cause someone to be a little anxious, and we wouldn't want that, now, would we?
Its people like you that inspire women never to give up the women's movement. If men were acting like fathers, then women would not have to raise them alone. Women, in the majority of cases do not leave, its the men.
Yippee!!!! Finally somebody feels and says how I do.
I'm the one who left the kids' dad. He was an abusive SOB who was as useless as the day was long. I barely got out with my/our life(s). You want to talk anxiety, we can talk anxiety. But I've got better things to do with my life these days. I've worked to put it behind me (30 years ago) and to become a better person, mother, and grandmother. I'm still working at all of it. Anxiety? Who doesn't have it? Let's work on something that we can actually do something about, like living better and taking care of one another. Living well beats the socks off of worrying all the time or taking a pill to checkout of reality.
(I am writing about life experience. I know some folks have medical problems that include anxiety attacks as symptoms, and I do not wish to make light of them. My anxiety is just anxiety with living. It's a pain, but I deal with it. Best wishes to all.)
Amen zapper, I was married to a total jerk for 14 yrs, black eyes, bruises and all. Ive since been on my own and bought MY OWN washing machine, BRAND NEW CAR paid off in less than 3 1/2 yrs, new couch and other expensive items all paid off by ME. NOT any man or the dumb jerk of an ex I married. HE did the BARE minimum while I cut coupons, mowed the grass, trimmed the trees, cleaned the garage, baked bread AND sewed my daughter her fluffy dresses. And the idiot couldnt even say so much as thank you or even spend time with me. I used to get migrains when I was with him and had several "painless" migrains that I told the doc about. Funny when I finally left the jerk after he told ME I was the loser the migrains stopped. I depend on no one, that first marriage taught me a BIG lesson. Men dont cause stress??? Palleeeeese....
Probably because as they step up to take on more roles that have been traditionally men's roles they are finding they are not able to cope as well. Men and women are definitely built differently and think differently. Like it or not, there are certain things that are better left to men.
Men tend to divide up life's responsibilities and when their 20% gets to be too much they leave!
Truth is not whats speaking to you buddy.
Really 'truthspeak' this attitude is not even 'truthiness'! What work/thoughts would you like us to leave to you? Which worry would you like to take on? If men are better at certain things then why are they not stepping up! There are more female college graduates and now for the first time more PhD's awarded to women then men? As far as I can see many men have the time to play on their Xbox or watch/attend sporting events while we run the kids to soccer and bring home the smaller paycheck. You are right we are wired differently thank god someone will get up with the baby in the middle of the night!!!!!
With apologies to the rare man who actually does share the work-load equally:
Problem is that although women have taken up the load traditionally done by men, ie bringing home the bacon, men are loath to take up the burden traditionally done by workmen, ie house work and child rearing. It doesn't help that traditional women's work has always been horrendously under-valued, and that even today, the term itself - women's work - is used in apejorative manner,
One of my pet peeves is the term "he helps out around the house," because the implication is that it's HER job to do all the housework, and he gets enormous kudos if he does two loads of laundry on Saturday. Sorry, folks, but we're well past the era of a separation of labor into men's and women's chores. And until men do their fair share, which means better than twice what they do now, according to every survey taken in this country, ever, women will have problems such as those discussed in this article.
And to those men on this board who have the hutzpa to list exactly how little they do around the house, pat themselves on the back and act as if they shared the work-load equally with their wives: shame on you. If you have even an ounce of honesty in your bodies, make a list of what needs to be done around the house on a regular basis, then check off the chores you do, and see how much is left. That should be an eye opener for the vast majority of you!
Not all anxiety is caused by not having a life, or having a too busy life. There can be physical reasons for it, so don't condemn people who have anxiety attacks, etc. For instance, I was filled with anxiety. My doctor ran some simple tests, and it was discovered I was low in vitamin D and the b vitamins. I now take shots once a week of the b vitamins, and I take a drop of vitamin D3 a day. My anxiety has been greatly helped. I can tell a big difference in the day or two before I need my b shot. I start getting anxious. It is so easy to condemn others. Some 36 years ago, I was having heart problems. The ER people were all set to tell me it was anxiety. Then then ran tests. It turned out it was my heart after all. They didn't think it was because I was in my early 30s. My heart problem was a previously undiagnosed congenital heart defect. Doctors, need to stop making snap judgements about their clients, and really examine them well when someone comes in and says they feel anxious or says they think they have a heart problem.
Same here. If your brain makes too much cortisol, it's not something you can fix by lighting candles and meditating to mood music or talking to a therapist. I have a great life and I balance my family and work well, but I'm still on a low dose of Wellbutrin to keep the anxiety symptoms at bay. Interestingly, I have a mitral valve prolapse (a minor, non-dangerous heart value aberration that is far more common in women than men) and a cardiologist once told me that MVP and anxiety disorder often go hand-in-hand.
TraceyS: Yes, mitral valve prolapse not only is far more common in women than men, but also is associated with anxiety disorder. That's why a thorough physical examination should be part of the evaluation of anxiety symptoms.
I really dislike studies such as these. Now, if I or any woman fails at anything, all someone has to say is..."Well, she's a woman. She can't handle it. Studies show...".
Well, I handle it just fine, thank you. And I don't need meds. Am I luckier than others, maybe. But I believe it's more to do with having my priorities straight.
And I can already see that this comment string is going to turn into a misogynist rant by troglodytes.
Troglodyte. Somebody's a smartypants.
Iola, there is a HUGE difference between normal worry and an anxiety disorder. Obviously, you've never had one. Attitudes like yours is why people don't want to seek help.
I was just diagnosed with a panic disorder and severe anxiety and yes, I am on medication. Two of them, in fact (but I haven't had to take the one for a couple weeks). It isn't just your mind that is affected. A real honest to goodness anxiety disorder has physical symptoms just like any other disease. My panic attack was so severe, I ended up in the emergency room.
For me, this past month since my diagnosis has been physically and mentally debilitating for me to the point where I could not physically function without taking medication. I also could not sleep. You can't just "shake it off" or will it to stop. Doesn't work that way. Anyone who uses this as an excuse to fail won't past muster at a doctor's office. You can't fake this stuff. I don't know anyone who would want to fake this, either.
Unless you've had this yourself, you really have no clue at all. Get off your high horse.
msannomalley you are so right on target here! All of us worry but an anxiety disorder is so much more. My panic attacks left me so drained that I could not function and I was always afraid of having another one and if anyone looked at me I thought I was going to die! I now take a medication and it has saved my life. I am 46 years old and wondered my whole life what is wrong with me until I finally got a really good Dr. who figured it out....and yes not all meds work for everyone...I had to try 3 different kinds to find the one that worked for me...of course I still worry sometimes like most people but I am free of those crazy and irrational fears and can enjoy my life now....it's been 5 years now since I had a panic attack.
My POINT ladies is that this study becomes yet another argument against which we find ourselves having to defend our gender. It had nothing to do with your individual diagnoses.
Neither gender is better than the other, but this study might lead an idiot to believe that women are the weaker sex. That we are biologically incapable of handling everyday stressors. Which brings me back to my original statement that I dislike these studies and I really dislike the way the media presents it.
Now that I have checked, "Dorking around with anti-feminists online" off of my to do list, I can move on to more important things to do.
@Kirk...I have my moments. :)
Lola, I understand your point, but you can't worry about what the idiots will think. We've spent too much time as women trying to prove ourselves (which we've done) while pleasing others (which is a waste of time except with your immediate loved ones). Men have their gender-linked burdens to bear as well...they still commit 95% of violent crime, and that is directly linked to the way they are wired.
Thank you Tracey. I know it shouldn't phase me. But it does. If a woman has any success in the corporate world, all a man has to say is, "She slept her way to the top." And there goes all her credibility.
If a man marries a woman ten years his junior, he's a husband. If a woman marries someone ten years her junior, she's a 'Cougar'. And there's many more charming epithets that are hurled around at random.
Anyway. I've had my rant for the moment. I will now enjoy family time with the most wonderful man in the world who brought home dinner.
I agree about the "cougar" label. Can't STAND it. My husband is 10 years younger than me, we've been together nine years and have a child together. I fell in love with his person, not his age. The "cougar" thing implies that I'm putting on Jimmy Choos and lingerie and seducing him around the martini shaker at night, when in reality we're just building a life together.
@ msannomalley:
When I was 15, I suddenly began to suffer panic attacks for fear of a heart attack. Because of them, I was only eating about one meal every day or two, my arms and legs became very cold and stiff, and I regularly felt chest pain and palpitations. Even when my mother assured me I was fine, I forced myself to not believe her since my life was possibly on the line.
After nearly a month of constant fear and a buzzing head due to out-of-control adrenaline, I finally wound up in the E.R. after freaking out in a noisy restaurant. While all I really needed was a doctor to confirm that I was in ship-shape, I was prescribed with some lorazapam 'just incase.' I've since had it under control without the need for medication, but I still hold on to it, since my panic attacks normally come from nowhere.
I agree that you really can't shake off a panic attack, since it is different from normal worry, like worried what to do for dinner or if you'll be late to something. In my case, my panic was caused by the fear of death. Doctors themselves say it is one of the worst feelings to ever experience, and they were surprised I hadn't hastened my death through suicide after being in constant fear for over a month. Fear of death, doctors say, will often seize a person's mind, freeze their lifestyle, and possibly cause their death either through suicide or even hypothermia (I kinda experienced that). So if anyone calls you a wimp for having panic attacks, they're the real wimp, since they likely don't know what it's like to feel like you're dying.
The pace of life just speeds up. Expectations rise. Society gets ever more crowded. This causes some to respond by breathing faster. Getting ready to race. This leads to hyperventilation. Hyperventilation reduces co2 levels in the blood and brings on anxiety and panic. No mystery.
Lucky you!
We, male and female, have plenty of tools to use to ward off impinging stressors. I can't list them all here but offer some suggestions.
You pay for your communication devices and connection services. Anything that rings, buzzes, or beeps can be turned off. There is no law against not answering your phone. Respond to emails in batches, not each time one plops into your in-box. Cut down social-networking participation. Do you really need to broadcast that you just ate a pistachio ice cream cone or learn that someone else did? Limit exposure to upsetting news or "entertainment." Find that tv news coverage of a child-kidnapping has lasting effects on your psyche? If you must, read about it instead. I loved "Law and Order," but the second time I watched an episode of gory "Criminal Minds" I said: "What am I doing to myself?"
Make room in your life for appreciation of beauty. It seems to be hard-wired in our brains and can be had, for free, out-doors. Even if you reside in a decayed environment, locate a park and watch birds, admire greenery, appreciate a pool of water, and soak in tranquility. Get a small plant and watch it grow. Find inexpensive venues where you can enjoy the talent of artists. Find music that touches you; ditch the jangling stuff.
Re-evaluate relationships. If a person is abusive, get away or absolutely minimize contact. Too much sentiment and unreflective caving in to social pressures and we end up sticking with mates merely to exhibit that we have them, have children to please relatives or because 'everyone else is pregnant,' or participate in social events because it is expected that all our relatives must "show up at Thanksgiving." If you feel that you must attend that party, plan a time limit and stick to it.
Cut back on or eliminate alcohol use. Women are more vulnerable to alcohol's effects, and never ever should try to match male imbibers drink-for-drink. From hangovers to depressive effects to damaged livers, alcohol abuse has a big price. Smoking marijuana can precipitate panic attacks in some people, so that is not a sensible alternative. For all substances of abuse, women get sicker quicker. If you cannot cut back without discomfort, seek help NOW. Treatment works.
Don't accumulate too much stuff. This year's must-have items turn into "soooo last year." You will have more living/closet space as well as save money. This leads one to consider wise purchasing in general.
And, don't wait until January 1, 2011 to implement new coping modes. Try adopting a few now.
Read poetry.
Go to the park on a pleasant day. Lie down in the grass. Look at the clouds.
"Read poetry. Go to the park on a pleasant day. Lie down in the grass. Look at the clouds."
When you've got young children, a full-time job, a household and a budget to manage, those things become just one more task to add to your already too-full to-do list. And it's not going to help you if your brain just produces too much stress hormone.
save your strength for things that you can change, forgive the rest, and let go.......learn to pick your battles wisely
Hence my comment about not letting social pressure determine your childbearing. You do not have to become pregnant to please other people. This is an ancient social force, but now there options.
TraceyS, if you are trying to do all of those things alone, take a hard look at what is creating the situation. If you find yourself having to over-perform, someone else is under-performing. Set limits on the demands of others--learn to say "No" firmly, and insist that partners do their part--like pay child support or take on responsibility for specific household chores or take the children out of the house so you can sleep in Saturday morning. Yes, you very likely are able to go to a park. Those relatives who kept asking "So, when are you going to start a family?" should be asked to help with children's care. Join with other mothers in a cooperative baby-sitting effort. Get professional help if you simply cannot cope with three kids under age four.
But, do not shift responsibilities to an older child. Than eight-year-old daughter whom you ask to watch her three- and four-year-old brothers is not only too young for the responsibility but also is very likely to resent her situation when she is older.
Just breathe.
Have faith, pray, invite God in and RELIEF.
Ahh, from psychotic to delusional. What a relief.
Ah, why would you attack a method that might work for someone in a desperate situation? Do you feel better?
I am not diagnosed with anxiety. I don't have health insurance and can't afford to see a doctor (this is no comment on the political situation right now) but if I could afford to see a doctor I would. I would prefer not to be on medication, but I have tried meditation and relaxing and it only helps so much. When I was 16 and had my first panic attack I didn't know what it was. I couldn't breath the world was spinning...it was terrible. For the most part I have my panic attacks under control and I'm usually able to push off full panic mode until I'm alone. Don't judge these people because you do not suffer from anxiety, you have no idea what it feels like. The best way I can describe it is falling like someone just pulled the rug out from under you quick and hard, I feel like I'm stationary but everything else around me is spinning. With really bad ones I'm afraid they'll never stop, but they always do. I refuse to feel ashamed because I know its not my fault, but I wish other could accept that we are not all the same.
I have been diagnosed with an anxiety disorder by multiple doctors and put on prescriptions that made it all worse. The best thing I have found is a walk outside ALONE, yoga and exercise! I know it is hard to make the time but in just a few weeks you will feel the difference. Studies have shown exercise is AS effective as drugs. Good luck and deep breaths.
Thanks Kariology I do keep meaning to exercise, but no more excuses! At the very least it should help me sleep at night : ) I like yoga, but loved tai chi in college. I actually contemplated taking it again without the credit just so I could have it for another semester, but alas its a waste of money. Perhaps when things are better I can sign up for a night session.
Mona Bones, just when will "things" be "better"? "Waste of money"? No, a "waste" of yourself. You ARE confused.
Dear polyhedron,
You are the one confused and I suggest some introspection of yourself as to why you said this to Mona.
She is not confused, but is just on her path in life and trying to better herself.
I used to be stressed all the time it didn’t matter that it was becauseof a small thing or a big thing. Every time when someone would cut me off while I was driving for example my heart would just race and my I was getting filled with rage and stress it’s such an ugly dark feeling that also affected my personal life. On random times my heart would poke and palpitate out of nowhere and I felt that was jumping out of my chest. I had it checked out and the doctor said it was anxiety and gave me some pills which I took and it made it go away. But if you stop taking them it's just a temporary fix!!! It comes back next week to hunt you again. I started to read more about this and I changed my food and drinks (used to drink Coke a lot) and even the salt I use to cook with (I am using sea salt now). I meditate every day and I don’t exercise yet but my head feels so clear and my heart so calm I am myself surprised. Eating lots of green raw natural items and meditation for at least 20min a day me got me off the pills. Always try to stay with the natural side rather than the pill side for the longer road ahead.
For those that criticize others because they have a condition and their lives are unhappy because of this, you should be ashamed of yourself because you aren’t helping anyone, if anything you are contributing to the problem with your negative attitude.
Ummmm? What would our grandmothers' say: eat healthy, exercise, do something useful-something for someone else, learn something new, figure out what you CAN control and go for it.... Get out of your head- make a friend, turn off all that cra.... phone/computer/tv etc... and go for a walk, feed the birds, write, read, read, read, grow a spiritual side, so many things to be done that would feel good like visiting the elderly or tutoring.... be a friend to myself, give myself good advice then I can help myself and others.... so simple, what makes it hard today? Do i want to analyze that or just repeat the above list which works for me..... And ZUMBA! look it up go have fun! Feel free to vote and support causes that matter and help us!
Yes, that's probably what our grandmothers would say. Luckily, we know now that things aren't always that simple and that there's nothing wrong with taking appropriate medications for health problems, such as anxiety disorders.
Women in my grandmother's time were frequently prescribed lithium. Not my grandma. She would go to Bingo and win cash.
Dear Daisy in St. Louis,
I TOTALLY DISAGREE! Medications are the LAST resort for these problems.
Did you NOT read the article at all?
You people who judge other with panic attacks have no idea what you are talking about. Stress levels and the amount of work expected from everyone in the current economic environment has everyone living with stress. High levels of stress can take 10 years off you life. Most women bear the biggest part of the burden in raising the kids, taking care of the house and in some cases taking care of elderly parents both physicially and in some cases financially. Until you have walked in their shoes I suggest you keep you toxic comments to yourself.This on top of doctors who don't have a clue and think the answer to everything is "you are depressed". They put you on an anti-depressent that doesn't work and in some cases leads to suicide. I recently had a friend who i had known since for close to 35 years. She had everything and shot herself in the head because of the idiot doctor who diagnosed her with depression rather than generalized anxiety disorder and panic attacks. Doctors now don't listen to the patients they just prescribe the drugs that the drug company marketing reps bring the most lunches and paid vacations.
Because WE tend to *take on More than WE can Handle*
Super Mom, Super Wife, Super Employee, Super Bitch ......
Women/Chicks, are Emotional Beings *it's a Curse, I tell YA !!!!!
Amen to my southern sista!!
Reaves, you have serious issues. I can understand you hate men because he didn't give you child support. But you know what... you should have hired a better lawyer if you are such a baddass female. oh and by the way, do you hit your boyfriends over the head with how awesome you are? I'm sure it hasn't gotten old yet... hearing you brag about yourself.
HUMANS ARE EMOTIONAL BEINGS, NOT JUST WOMEN. It's amazing to me how women have convinced themselves that they are so much better at everything than men are. Everyone is an individual, and not everyone is as intelligent in all areas as other people. Reaves, noone wants to be with you because you say things like, get a life, and little fella. I'm so sure you're a real class act that everyone wants to hang around.
In the end, I didn't need his money. And, for your information, all child support cases in the state of Florida are handled the same way, no matter how much money you have. I am very happily married. Im sure your such a class act that you can't take the heat on you. Remember, Im not the only one who has not agreed with your posts. And, I do think women are the superior beings, and so does my husband.
First, I'm a guy. Second, I'm pretty sure I have "generalized anxiety disorder." When your doctor gives you klonopin and zoloft, that's a pretty good tip off. The nature of my job is responsible, I think. I'm a disability advisor and my job is to help persons with disabilities find resources, services, agencies and programs that will help with their rent, utilities, phone bill, medical issues, legal matters...ANYTHING, in short. So, when my phone rings, it's NEVER good news.
Reason I mention all that is because MANY of my callers exhibit anxiety disorder symptoms. Who can blame them? Often, their lives are changed in an eye blink from normal to any condition shy of death, and it's for the rest of their lives!
The world, as it applies to the US, is far different now than it was just one generation ago. But the perceived threats to "normalcy" are all around us now. Jobs, money, children, politics, bills, mortgage, health care, aging parents...you name it. ALL of these cause anxiety that we sometimes can't do a damn thing about, so it eats us up from the inside. We're afraid of so many things. Contaminated foods, pollution, the guy down the block that owns 10 or 12 guns...and is a little "unstable."
Some will claim that how men and women handle anxiety is biological. I think it's more situational, and all these "threats" from outside cause the anxiety, whether it's male or female. Maybe we have to go all the way back to caveman days to explain it. The male of the species is "wired" to handle external threats and to protect the clan. Maybe that's why men are supposedly better at handling anxiety.
Who knows for sure?
Be talkin' to you............Webrydr
Women have always been neurotic. The only difference now is doctors and the drug companies have found a way to diagnose it and provide drugs for it.
More and more men are not paying child support every year,,,,,,and we are neurotic?? Uh ok little fella
"Women have always been neurotic."
Someone has got to be, or nothing would ever get done. Every relationship needs a grown-up in it, and increasingly, it's on us women.
Not neurotic so much as detail oriented and able to multi-task.
Whenever I read dribble like this from women that don't need men, I am always reminded of my own thoughts.... I don't want you either.
We may not need men, we may or may not want them. You can't handle the fact that unlike the past, we do not NEED yall, now, its a matter of whether or not we want you. There are wonderful and great men.....just not in abundance.
Anxiety happens when there is no clear cut societal role for a group of individuals. Women used to have a defined role and they were good at it. Now, they're thrashing around trying to find a place in society that isn't all things to all people.
Uh paleeze!! Get over yourself. A woman now has a choice to who SHE wants to be. I am a woman, so please do not preach to me on what my role should be. Get a fricken life. Some might be thrashin around because of no help from men, but that too is ok, because guess what ......we are learning to do it by ourselves, and with grace, class, and dignity.
"Women used to have a defined role and they were good at it."
Clearly you have a thin grasp on history.
Reaves is a woman, so don't preach to her. In other words, don't ever express your opinion because it's wrong. When you don't have a penis, you are suddenly correct about EVERYTHING.
Are you serious? Dude, you are embarrassing yourself. The great men are screaming for you to shut up.
To Granted.....Let me tell you something. It is not equal today. Women still take on the majority, especially single mothers, who get no child support. I just graduated, thank god, and now have a great job, but remember working full time, going to school full time, never getting a penny from child support, and the slacking state of Florida not going after the father. I remember the stares I would get using a food card (EBT) from those making minimum wage at the grocery stores. The snide comments made me come unglued. Why was I getting persecuted when I was doing everything right, going to school, working, taking care of my twins,etc, and the father not having to go through anything. Unless pulled over for a traffic violation or worse, the state would not go arrest him for non payment. Dont tell me thats equal buddy. Dont want to hear it. I can now buy and sell him.
Reaves...WAY TO GO! I'm in FL too, and I KNOW the inadequate support you received. Florida is 49th in the nation in the quality of it's social programs and fightin' hard for 50th! Congratulations for hangin' in there, obviously working your butt off and reaching a hard fought goal.
Well done!
Be talkin' to you.......Webrydr
Another sexist article about how women are more likely to experience X because they are more in tune with their body/mind/emotions than men are. What a complete load of garbage. I agree that anxiety is totally real, and felt by both sexes, classes, and all races. When was the last article that said that men were more likely to experience a positive trait? Umm, never. Never ever? Never never. Maybe women would notice that men have these same problems, if women weren't too busy discounting what men are saying. Oh wait that's right... Men just become "unstable" when we have problems and should be shunned.
No, we are quite aware that many men are as you say "unstable." (By the way don't get hysterical, there are very great and wonderful men out there)
Once again, whomever responded to me, didn't actually hear what I was saying. And calling me "hysterical" as in going crazy is not an acceptable viewpoint to what I was saying. In point of fact, you are merely part of the problem. You completely missed the point and that is, Anxiety is real for everyone, and not just for women. The other point that I was making is that I know that men are great and wonderful. I know this because I am constantly treated like crap by the likes of YOU! Maybe you should ask yourself why ANY man would want a relationship other than for kids or sex. Friends are totally better for getting rid of loneliness than a relationship. WHY? Because when a man gets into a relationship, they instantly go from "aww he's awesome" to "the guy I'm dating, that's always slightly wrong, that hasn't put a crown on my head yet." If anything women have become more anxious because guys have figured out that we don't need a woman to be complete. Women don't add anything to a guys life except stress, anxiety, frustration. That first flirt/smile you get from someone is as good as it will ever get.
AAww, have you gotten burned? Well so sorry. We all have. You are saying that women only bring stress, anxiety, and frustration? Sounds like you do need meds. Strong women don't need a crown, but respect. And, you really wonder why your single? I think I know!
And by the way, Ive never met you, so I think we are projecting a wee bit.
For years I suffered from anxiety, I saw counselors and even developed a neurological disorder that doctors would tell me was caused by my "anxiety". I finally found a doctor who would listen to me and all my symptoms and despite my thyroid levels showing up as normal on my bloodwoork, I was put on thyroid medicine for hypothyroid and there was my miracle cure. It was my thyroid the whole time causing all of these weird symptoms. My neurological disorder also dissappeared. Unfortunately, if I stop taking my medication, my symptoms come back, all of them. I have no history of thyroid issues in my family so what caused it? An environmental trigger.
There are so many chemicals and pollutants messing with our hormones that no wonder anxiety is on the rise. Ladies, have your doctors check your thyroid and see if it's the cause before going on anti-anxiety medication. That stuff messes with your brain chemistry. Avoid it all costs.
My mother in law had her doc want to prescribe klonopan and prozac....she too found out, 5 years from onset, her problem was her thyroid. Anxiety wasn't her only symptom....
Glad you found it was your thyroid before you started a prescription. I know a person who has been taking an anti-anxiety med...it's nasty stuff, so nasty her therapist passed away and her MD was prescribing it because she HAD to, otherwise she'd end up hospitalized due to withdrawal.
well good luck with Dr's I've been in cronic pain for 10yrs now. I can't get disability, it's work or die. Dr's don't know much about pain, how could they?
Many of us commit suicide I consider it a few times a week. My mother was one of those who did nothing but criticize men. So I avoid women, and men and children. When my 8hrs is up I hide, and wait for the pain to ease up, it never does.
People need to help each other, the fatcats make loads of money dividing us, making us fear each other. Turn off the TV, and listen to someone. Maybe even your self.
Quite true. The media uses fear to grab our attention. No thanks to crime shows (doesn't matter whether it's fiction) or slashers. The more "interesting" and rarer crimes get priority who'd be interested by the murder of an old man? Unless it wasn't brutal no allot of people. The murder of a hot young woman is guarantied to get more viewers. Actually 80% of murder victims were male. The rise in anxiety disorders in women is a direct result of this. Because men are portrayed by the media of being capable of defending themselves the effect of this imposed paranoia is rather than being afraid of walking next to hedge rows in an urban park the rise of fire arm sales. Owning a gun mean your ten times more likely to be shot. Logically if you threatened an armed robber with a gun he is more likely to fire and probably won't hesitate for long och.
Lola, ...... It's obvious that you don't date anyone, at all.
Rico, she doesn't have to date , which Im sure she does, to be totally satisfied within her life. See women are like that, we don't have to sleep with a hundred guys, or be married to feel good about their lives. Now, I have gotten through alot, and I have been through great stress, but it was worth it to graduate and get a great job. And for the record, only a real man can appreciate a strong, confident woman, maybe your sad that your not one of those men.
Rico - who cares?
I had better not date, Rico. My wonderful husband is the jealous type. And he's cute too. Big blue eyes and a remarkable...talent.
Reaverevees going on again about who is a real man... True, you don't have to date to be whole. And reaves, not every guy sleeps with hundreds of women.... maybe it's just the guys you go after. the "real" men. lol you're actually getting more pathetic the more I read your dribble. It's kinda funny in a way though. I love how people have to bring up single mothers to prove how strong women are. This is why I tell guys not to have kids in the first place. The chances that they grow up under your roof is slim at best.
You sound like a man that needs serious counseling. Single mothers are strong, stronger than you will ever know. You tell men not to have children? WOW. Do you tell them to not have sex unless they can support the children that perhaps they may make? You are just backing up what Im saying. You are making this oh so much fun.
This is our American society's fault. Pick up any magazine and it will always have articles promoting the Super-Woman Myth: Multitask while this, multitask while that, make the most of your time, look sexy, be thin, be professional, be a mother, be a lover, put up with life's stress the productive way, etc., etc. Women are constantly pushed into being more competitive, more aggressive, more productive, both as a professional and a homemaker. There is so much a human being can take!!!
In no other country you see this much pressure on women. We are killing ourselves just to prove to others and ourselves that we can and should be a Super-Woman. STOP doing this to yourselves!!! Don't you see that it is wrong?? That's the reason for the increase of heart attacks in our women. That's the main reason for anxiety. That's one of the reasons why so many marriages are falling apart. STOP. THINK: you, women, owe it to yourselves. How much longer are you going to be played like a fiddle? I don't see men doing half of what is expected of women. I don't see men multitasking, much less having anxiety attacks.
Granted: our country's current jobless situation is not something to sneeze at, but as soon as things begin improving, these heart attacks and anxiety attacks in women will not decrease. Who are we kidding? This is not right! On top of that ,women are still getting paid less than their male counterparts... For what?? A heart attack? Anxiety? Stress? Women: time to slow down, time to tell society: No more!!!!
Women are probably better at multi-tasking because we use the two halves of our brain more equally - or at least the interactions between the two halves is more efficient.
My mother had panic attacks, and even though I knew the symptoms, the first time I experienced one, I went to the emergency ward.
My mother never worked outside of the house, and I'm a college professor.
People who want to regard anxiety and panic disorders as a recent phenomenon brought on by women trying to do it all, are just wrong. Its recent recognition does not preclude its prior existence. It's a medical condition.
And there is a genetic component to anxiety, depression, and many of the various mental conditions. Your vulnerability to panic attacks is likely related to your mom suffering from the condition too.
I have lived with panic disorder for almost 20 years. Although I appreciate the sentiments of those of you who say, "drink some tea, look at the clouds, chill out, reprioritize", my response to you is: if you haven't walked in my shoes, then don't think you know how to solve my disorder. I come from a regular family and have had a pretty regular life. There is no outside 'reason' why I should have this disorder. But for some reason my mind processes stress and anxiety differently than those of you who have never experienced panic disorder. I have tried everything from yoga to meditation to teas to quitting jobs and relationships, anything to stop the panic attacks that would sometimes occur up to 7 times a night for NO APPARENT reason. My weight dropped, my self-esteem plummetted, my friends and family didn't know what to think. The ONLY thing that helped was a pill. I hate pills. I don't even take them for headaches or regular aches and pains. But this disorder can be debilitating and I just wanted to have a regular day and a night's sleep. All I ask again, is that if you have never experienced what it's like, then don't judge and don't assume.
Well said. When I had terrible panic attacks, I lost nearly 20 pounds, slept only about 2 hours a day or less, lost self asteem, used my inhaler at least 4-5 times a day, and cut myself off from friends and became hostile to family. With little sleep and food, it made my stress even worse.
All I really needed was a doctor to run a few tests to convince me I was fine, but my mother tried a few of her own methods to 'cure' me of my panic, which caused me to suffer from panic attacks even longer since she didn't want to take me to the clinic. She almost refused to take me to a doctor, convinced I was fine, while I don't think she knew how much I was suffering. Several times I would take a knife to my throat and hold it there, wondering if it would be worth it. I had become so afraid of death, I was almost finished with waiting for it to happen that I would do it myself.
I finally managed to have my father, who really saw me suffering, take me to the hospital's E.R. when I ran out of a noisy restaurant and began to pace back in forth in the parking lot, clutching my chest. When the doctors told me I was fine, I could breathe a sigh of relief. That, and a long-awaited good night's sleep, was the best medicine I could ever ask for. So this is my advice for those of you who suffer from similar situations: go to a doctor! That usually does the trick, and you'll be able to learn early on if there is a problem or not.
I know this is going to start an uproar, however it needs to be stated.
Anti Anxiety meds and antidepressants are SCARY....and I know several people who started taking them and stopped.
3 of the 5 I know smoke marijuana....at night. It stops the anxiety and they all sleep again. One told me her therapist would prescribe it for her if it were legal, and wouldn't tell her to stop.
On the flip side of that....it causes anxiety in some.
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Yes that's true "weed" weirds me out completely....our brain chemistry is very different and what works for some will not work for everyone....find what works for you and stick with it!
Alcohol can also dull feelings of anxiety and stress.
Both alcohol and marijuana are only temporarily masking the medical condition - and can often worsen symptoms in the long term. You still need professional help.