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The trouble is that the only thing known is that the H1N1 is changing a bit genetically. The main part of this article is simply speculation on what it might mean.
Too few people got the H1N1 vaccine last year. The only reasonable thing to do right now is get the very safe seasonal flu shot, and to wait and see what the studies show regarding the southern hemisphere, as their flu season is ending right now.
I wonder if this was manufactured too....
I will bet some big campaign donor is making a ton off this
KaptainKrunch - That is actually a very ignorant and dangerous point of view. Several virologists have been expecting the news reported in this story, and historically, it is an event accompanied by a deadly outbreak of disease.
Inform yourself and enjoy a very well-told story at the same time, by reading The Great Influenza: The story of the deadliest pandemic in history, by John M. Barry. It explains that often, the first time a specific strain of flu virus appears, it causes a milder form of illness, and by the following infection season, has mutated into a disease that becomes deadly.
While the book focuses on the influenza pandemic of 1917-1920, it does address later developments in virology and other pandemics that followed, and it explains what the very best medical and public health policies should be to limit the spread of infection and death. And by the way, the Great Influenza was a strain of H1N1 virus.
Everyone should get flu shots, and soon. Despite a flu shot last year, I did get a case of H1N1, and it isn't at all a pleasnt experience.
I only knew two people who got the flu last year. They also took the flu shot. One of them was partially paralyzed due to the shot. So feel free to take the shot, Barry. Take two if you like.
John A.-400474
I have never gotten a flu shot in my life. I have not had the flu for at least 5 years. I take my D and work outside.
Kaptain, I too get a lot of vitamin D and work outside. But I did take a flu shot once. It gave me the flu within days, and I was sick for over two weeks. I don't believe I fully recovered for months. That's the last one I'll ever take. It's funny to see all the skepticism here to natural ways to just avoid getting sick. Since it's impossible to track how many times your immune system has fought off the flu, how do you know it's working? But how many many people have gotten sick because of the vaccine? Why doesn't anyone look into it? There must not be much money in something like that.
Some people are such sheep they will believe anything they are told by those in authority or in an article in the newspaper (or in immunology class). If you do not take responsibility for your own health and do your own research, then I guarantee you will get sick, whether it's the flu or guillain-barre syndrome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjphTNaI4tE).
So tell us some more folks, about how safe the vaccines are.
John, are you going to get another H1N1 shot?
Haven't gotten the flu shot in 15 years or so. I may go out and get it this year, but I am not sure yet. Any time I have ever gotten sick, I have always gotten better within 2 or 3 days. Only once did I get sick longer. That time I had cholera. At least I think thats what I had since for a week liquids came out of me from every exit, and no fluids went in. Stupid me never went to the doctor or hospital. But I survived, and was 45 lbs lighter after the week was over. I almost want to get sick like that again so I can loose another 45 lbs. LOL. I probably should just go to the gym instead.
I have already gotten anaother one. I was probably already infected with H1N1 when I got the vaccination last year, since I came down with the flu two days later. I get flu shots years and have been fortunate that they generally worked well. People who think that vitamins are the solution really should think twice. The best thing that course of action does is help strengthen the immune system, but it won't prevent a virus from taking hold if it's potent enough.
The book I suggested folk read explains how devastating the flu is - not so much by itself, but by making the body susceptible to secondary infections. And surprisingly, the most at-risk are younger, healthier people.
Please be sure to follow the recommended methods of avoiding or limiting potential exposure during the flu season. Washing hands often and well ias among the best preventative steps!
This is good to know. I'm going to up my intake of vitamin D3 to boost my immune system which will protect me no matter what the virus mutates into.
Vitamin D overdose is deadly; it increases pressure on the brain. Go Google "polar bear liver". Do the vit Bs and C and echinacea if you want to go natural.
In the U.S., vitamin D overdose is almost unheard of. Get your blood tested before supplementing if you're concerned, but just about any fair skinned person in the northern hemisphere is deficient in vitamin D. D3 is the natural form.
So it's time for another billion dollar round of shots and profits for the big pharmaceutical companies? They don't work. If you have a weak immune system, they actually hurt your immune system, and if you're healthy, you're body is plenty capable of fighting it on its own. The best thing you can do is get plenty of vitamin D, and the sun is the best source. They just havent' figured out how to charge you for it or tax it yet. If they could, they would.
take an immunology class and stop spreading conspiracy theories
Yes, let's trust the government. They never lie to us, do they? The guatemalans found out the other day what was done to them (on our behalf). Now I'm not a big fan of 60 minutes, but they did air this episode at least once.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjphTNaI4tE
Take your immunology class and shove it.
This is no theory.
BensOil: Therefore all government action everywhere and all times is a conspiracy? Really??
No. AmTrak and the Post Office seem pretty harmless, although the post office did have some bad times.
This is all a government conspiracy to help the Anunnaki take over the world when the come to invade us in 2012. Little does everybody know that Obama is Anunnaki. When he started running for President, he had black hair, now he is going grey. By the time December of 2012 gets here, he will be fully grey, just like his Anunnaki brothers.
If you don't believe that, then it is Bush's conspiracy to get a 3rd term.
Really. Where is your evidence to back up your statements that they don't work? Scientific evidence, please, not something from Sarah Palin's Facebook page.
Story can't be true. I've heard that the evolution of life (viruses included) is just a myth made up by evil atheists.
I just got my Flu Vaccine two days ago. I ran my best time today on the usual daily 4 mile run that I do. The vaccine apparently increases physical conditioning and leg strength (as well as autism).
Big deal. Viruses are always mutating. Why else do you think you keep catching the common cold?
Because there are many existing cold viruses, each different. You are not catching new mutations of the same cold. You are catching adenovirus 3, rhinovirus 27, etc. You also catch fewer colds as you age, because you have already had so many and you are immune to them.
The autism theory has been debunked, too.
My daughter had H1N1 and we were lucky it was mild. But a third of the school was sick, and she missed her own graduation from middle school.
Here we go again. Just more hype than substance, and Pfizer will reap the rewards.
Joe, you wouldn't call it hype if you'd had a case of swine flu. My daughter had it and it was pretty bad!
I'm not saying it's not bad. Did she die? Was she paralyzed?
No, BensOil, thank God, she did not die or become paralyzed, but a lot of people have died from it.
I'm glad she's ok. Most people who do not survive have weakened immune systems, like the elderly or already sick from something else. Can the rest of the population avoid it simply with nutrition? Others may not believe so, but there is plenty of evidence that you can avoid it fairly easily without taking a shot. And the shot can have dire consequences.
What you are saying is true of the normal seasonal flu. But if you remember, a larger than normal percentage of the deaths with H1N1 were working age. Also, the 1918 Spanish flu that killed millions greatly affected young working age people.
This is so sad. Did you not read the article? It says the virus is changing, and we don't know what it means yet. Period. End of story. Why must you create conspiracy theories out of this? Ignorance is a fatal disease, too.
The virus is always changing. It will continue to change, and nothing you or anyone else can do will stop it with a vaccine. Even if you could, there is no way to prove it. There's also no way to prove my side either. We could try looking at why some people get it and some people don't, but there's no money in it, so that will not happen.
Your ignorance comment cuts both ways.
Remember the bird flu - H1N1, they closed my sons school last month because of the number of associated DEATHS. I bet that did not make the World medias attention, Ha! Ha!
Here is a dose of reality for you.
A total of 51,594 people have been reported to have caught flu since Jan 2010. Lab tests have confirmed that 9,618 had the H1N1 strain or varient. In Thailand, 80 flu fatalities were reported this year. Among those who died, 71 had H1N1. Out-patients seeking medical diagnoses at hospitals due to flu-like illnesses have jumped from an average of 5% to an unusually high rate of more than 10% in 25 provinces. And this is with over 30% of the population having already received the vaccine.
AC, where is your son's school? I haven't seen it on the news, you're right.
Outside of Udon Thani, Thailand in ban Huay Sam Pad District.
The information was pulled from a article in the BKK Post, so I'm not sure if they ment H1N1 or H5N1. But the local school and doctors are calling it the Bird Flu.
Well you can tell flu season is here again without even reading the story. The symptoms seem to be name calling, uncontrollable statistical regurgitation, up chucking of conspiracy theories, and generalized nastiness. Throw in a good dose sheepis panikus syndrome and a dash of Big Pharma Profittis Vaxinitus, and it's shaping up to be a hell of a year. Woopie.
dont leave out a sprinkling of autism comments as well.........
Quit all the fear-mongering! If you took an immunology course you would know by following the basic facts that no-one can produce a perfect flu shot because by the time it is in the market(many months later) the virus has mutated. I have not had a flu shot in 30 years and have not in that time had a serious bout of flu.
If I recall - bird flu is H5N1 and not H1N1 and bird flu is the really scarry one
Most of the local people have removed their back-yard chickens. Now the authorities are talking about the pets being carriers.
We have a few Chinese neighbors so the stray dogs and cats tend to disappear. Though there is still a man that drives around with cages of dogs, he does a good business. I have been told the dogs taste like pork and cats taste like chicken. Rice, peppers, Isan sauce, etc, real good. Ha! Ha!
I was lucky I guess. I had H1N1 last winter and only felt like I had a bad cold for about 24 hours. Others I knew fell seriously ill, so it all depends on your unique composition.
Now, let's look back at last year. Who, CDC, Pharma and our Government were going to save us from H1N1. Fact is , scientists and doctors reported this virus was MANMADE. First vaccines in United States to be rolled out were Nasal Spray Vaccines which we do know IS a live virus which can be shead to other people for 3 weeks after administered. Injection vaccines which are suppose to be a live but weakened virus rolled out several weeks after. Now if we were to stop the spread of H1N1 why on earth would you offer the first vaccine that can spread the virus to other people first? Come on people WAKE UP! Canada reported last year, people that had gotton the seasonal vaccine were getting sick with H1N1( like a magnet pulling them together) Canada suspended the seasonal vaccine. Other countries ignored their findings. Last year was the dry run for putting everything into place for Forced Vaccinations. Now that everything is all set up in place just waiting for this virus to mutate( which we know it will because they KNOW what they are doing) and then they will blow the horn! BAD, BAD PEOPLE behind all of this! NO FLU VACCINE FOR OUR FAMILY!
Who are the bad peopel behind this? Please tell us before they get us. Loosen up that tin foil hat you are obviously wearing...its cutting of the O2 to your pea brain.
let's face it, even WHO admits that 90% of deaths from the flu are the "frail or elderly". and yet, we have campains designed to vaccinate everyone in the country! the best way to "fight" the flu in a relatively healthy person is to get it and allow the body to develop its own resistence.