Verizon has this great thing for parents called parental controls ... My daughters phone only allows her to contact a select few people (that I choose) when I block her for certain hours, which are during her school day and at her bedtime each evening. If parents would set goals for their kids and use the cell phones as the bait, they would be suprised what they could get their kids to do ... it seems taking their phones away is the worst thing they can imagine in life. And it can be done in stages too; take the internet away, take the ipod away, take the texting away, take the phone away completely ... punishment depends on the crime. Use it to your advantage Mom and Dad!
I agree with you whole heartedly. We use my sons phone and ipod as bait for desired behavior, they are a priveledge not a right. I have parental controls set and I review e-mails and text messages. He knows if I find anything inappropriate, those priveledges are gone. I also had the camera on his phone disabled and blocked any picture or video messages from being sent or received. They are kids and need our guidence on proper phone use.
If you would just instil values and morals you wouldnt have to be a phone nazi and block them from texting at school or pic texting. I grew up in a home where I knew I would face punishment if I was doing wrong so I didn't do much wrong. I texted during school hours: between classes, lunch break, when I didn't have work to do etc. I had great grades, my laziness affected my grades more then my phone. My grandmother would looked at who I was texting and at what times but never said anything unless my grades suffered.
It wasn't until I bought my own phone that I started pic texting and trust me you children see worse on the internet and tv then is being pic texted. Stop being over protective and ridiculous and just instil ethics, work value, respect etc because one day you wont be able to control your kids.
I am trying to instill values and morals in my son. Didn't you hear about the cases of kids sending out nude pix of themselves to boys they like? All the kids had to do was get one of those pictures and they were up on charges of child pornography even though they did nothing more than opening a picture sent them. That is why I have picture messeging blocked. You can teach your kids it's wrong but that doesn't stop someone else from sending to your child.
Here is a novel idea...how about DONT GET THEM CELL PHONES!!!!! they are kids there is nothing that cannot wait until they get home to talk about. Just because "everyone else has one" doesn't cut it. Be REAL Parents and stop buying them the things you complain about them using!
I never saw worse on TV or movies than I did on my cell phone. I would have hated my parents reading my txts and looking at my pictures, but it would have benefited me in the long run. I was just like the girls in this article. Teenager's minds are easily influenced and it's so much easier to fall victim to peer pressure over a text/picture message than it is in person. I was a completely different person on the phone than I was in person. It changes you. No matter how strong your values and morals are, they are easier to break down on a cell phone.
Samiam, my son participates in school sports and clubs. Having a phone means I can find him after school. It also means when there is a change of plans or an activity is cancelled, he can let me know. I also use it to text him to remind him to turn homework and such in. He has ADHD and is forgetful.
I am a single mom working full time +, 2 active kids, and I stay very involved in their lives. They wouldn't be able to participate in nearly the number of activities they do today without cell phones. They have rules and boundaries, but they are teenagers, teens push whenever they think they can and when that happens there are consequences.
My son has had his cell phone since he was 8 and he only gets it when he goes somewhere without me. I feel better knowing he has a phone and can call me if he needs to. You people are too judgemental
SamIam, I think you live in a really small town. When I have to be 3 different places at almost the same time, we rely on being able to communicate with each other. Yes I survived without a cell phone as a teen, I wouldn't have wanted one. ;) I also got left stranded waiting for hours when someone was late picking me up.
On the flipside we love teens to text at night all night long. It makes us rich as the parents shell out money for unlimited texting with no controls. Who cares if they don't get enough sleep as long as we draw a paycheck. ........signed, the cell phone industry.
That is exactly what my daughter did to control the time my granddaughter uses here cell and the internet. She shuts her phone off through Verizon from 9PM until 7AM and unplugs the internet at night so there is quiet time. Otherwise the kid would be up all night.
"Teens send an average of 34 texts a night (adding up to 3,400 a month) after going to bed — in some cases up to four hours after hitting the sack, found researchers from JFK Medical Center, in Edison, N.J."
Only if there are 100 nights in a month. 34 texts per night for a month adds up to 1020 - 1054. One has to wonder if the researchers from JFK Medical Center are stupid or the people who write these stories just don't pay attention to what they're writing about. Perhaps their mantra is to 'make it sound irresistible, even if it's wrong!'
Eeks - I am a grandma and I do almost the same thing! My boss used to text me and I'd respond. Then when I saw this as a problem, I retired but now find myself playing games to relax (with lights out and behind a pillow so my husband doesn't see!). HOWEVER, I'm increasingly seeing this as a problem,even an addiction! And maybe this contributes to my insomnia? :-) Or I can just find a teen to text with me - haha.
it's the whole texting process... not just the 34txt-p-night. they're saying a teen texts 3400 times a month. i read that in other info about teen texting
OH MY GOSH, mrdano. Thank you so much! I had no idea there are actually about 30 nights in a month. I live on another planet, so I was completely unaware of this. But thank you for clearing that up!
And by the way, since you are clearly unable to detect sarcasm, this comment was also, indeed, sarcasm.
First of all, I'm not a kid, I don't have failing grades, And i do not have ADHD.
Texting is just a way of communication. If you say texting is going to cause someone to have ADHD, then so is talking on the phone, or typing on a computer.
The inmates ( teens ) are running the asylum. Parents who keep footing the bill for this extreme additive behavior and then wonder why their children do not bring home passing grades from school or dropping out of high school. If they can stay up all night texting they can do homework.
Issues with kids/sleep/entertainment are bigger than just texting, and it reaches down into younger and younger ages. Parents that are in control - whatever that means these days - can set limits, take away privileges, whathaveyou. It matters some but not as much as it used to, thanks to the over stimulated white noise of American culture. Even kids raised with terrific values and without much tv, movies, advertising shill crap coming at them 24/7 a day long to be entertained non stop. They know its out there and they know they want it. Our grade schoolers have never had more than a basic clock radio in their rooms, and even that mundane gadget gets abused. We had to take away even the kiddie flashlights, when it became obvious they'd stay up quietly drawing or playing and then ask why they were exhausted the next morning. Surrounded by too much, too soon, overstimulation is hard wired into kids from day one now, no matter what parents say or do - short of locking them in a closet with no light. ;-) I fear for the nation, when I hear of little kids that already have a bedroom full of media - iPods, a computer, CDs, TVs, a phone, an XBox and a Wii. We have that stuff - most homes do, but it's downstairs and not in a kid's bedroom.
I'm 56 years old and I've been hearing the exact same words for at least 45 years (that I remember). My parents said that their parents' friends all said the same thing too. "Parents these days are terrible. Back in my day, we did it right." Some things never change.
Chris and Marika, I'm also the same age as you, and I agree with you. And Marika, you're right, society is changing and will change again. I do not begrudge our kids their cellphones, computer, etc., and I would never say they should never have been invented. It's all progress, and like almost anything, they can be used constructively, destructively, or just plain wasted. What does irk me though is the prevailing attitude that they simply couldn't live without these things or that they would be deprived if they had to. We got along just fine without them when we were kids. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to go back to the days of the horse and buggy and outhouses on 10 below zero nights. But even though I myself am addicted to my computer, I do not believe that my life would have been not-worth-living had they never been invented. I do not feel that I suffered socially because I never had a cellphone when I was a teen.
What the heck are kids texting about anyway? My phone used to send and receive texts until I stopped the service and why did I stop the service...because it's stupid to me....friends and family would text me the most meaningless things...who cares if my niece just did something cute or that you are stuck in traffic.....now that I've stopped the service everyone keeps nagging me to get it back....Uh NO....people really need to get a life in my opinion!!!
You're right queenie, I feel the same way. Why text? Call, me, talk to me, that's why you have a voice, and why we have language. It's a hell of a lot simpler to just press three buttons (or one if you use speed dial) then it is to type everything out. That's an e-mail, or a letter. Why do we use a PHONE to TYPE on? Just because we can? That is stupid. Simple is smart. Got something important to tell me? You're going to be home late for dinner? Press one button and speak to me. If I'm not there, leave me a voicemail, one of those much more useful inventions on the cellphone.
This article couldn't be more true to my house right now. Just 3 weeks ago we completely took away my oldest's phone at bedtime. She would get texts at 4 in the morning, waking us up too. She fought us at first, but it seems to be okay (so far). She says she wouldn't answer, just read it and go back to sleep...we know better. We are paying the bill, we can and should control what she gets to do on it. Anyone else have trouble with them using it during the school day, too (51 was the highest amount so far? We have verizon and they have a way for us to see all incoming and outgoing texts, but not what was in the message.
It is definitely intriguing the way technology has unintended effects. First, the Internet that was supposed to bring us all together sits people in a room by themselves. And now texting and "social media" has turned people, mainly younger ones, into social retards. I see 2 women eating at a restaurant all the time not talking but texting to someone else and the people (usually women) texting and driving down the highway is a dramatically increasing problem. I find a lot of today's youth distant and very unresponsive in conversation when we used to be active and energetic. It's really weird....
Both of my kids have cel phones but they are turned off at 9 each night, except weekends when they are allowed to have them on until 11. Their phones are turned off during school hours also. They know if they do not follow the rules, they do not get phones. period. The use of cel phones does not have to be a problem, if the children are raised to respect their parents and the rules of the house. The one time they were on the phone during non approved hours, I put their phone in my room for a week, they haven't done it since. If children know there are true consequences when they break a rule and that those consequences will actually affect their wants and desires, they will be more apt to not break said rules.
I text prolly 7 times that, up to 22,000 a month, that and i dont have ADHD, ADD, Bad grades, bad morals, or anything. I actually am doing pretty damn well with my life Id say with now a college degree and 3 years in the army and a 6 figure job now too. Its not texting or whatever, its the lack of discipline children have and the lack of committment parents have to set good standards. im only 23 years old but still realise this, people need to take responsabilty more often
I see it as the bizarre evolution of language. First the post office, then land line telephones, cell phones, email, texting and now social media. It's all about communication and us humans thrive on being social beings. its funy taht sphelling relly inisnt as imporrtant as we thaught thouw : ) In fact, it's easy to tell if someone is under 25 now based on lack of grammer skills... If you can spell you must be some old dude!
Oh well, onward into the future! Can't wait until we all have gps and video chat... oh wait?
22,000 texts a month are about 733 messages a day... Yeah, that leaves you plenty of time to pursue a PhD, then win the Gulf War and then take on Wall Street or wherever they're giving you that 6-figure pay.
This is one more example of a generation that is totally lost. All they think about is texting, music(Lady Gaga), but not the future for them other then flipping burgers. Yes, there are those that have the brains to go forth, but they will be labled as over achievers and they should be forced to share their wealth. The gap widen between the have and have nots. If they can't have more self worth then feel they have to text late at late then they are doomed by their own stupidity.
They think they rule the air because of some advertisement to make them feel they have worth, but all along these companies just rake in the money from these idiots.
You can't do this with a college freshman, but it should be treated the way the phone was when I was a kid for high school and younger. No phone in a kids room, no calls (or texts) after a certain time or during homework time. It's really simple when you are a parent. Make the rule and enforce it. The phone does not enter the child's bedroom after a certain time. Period. End of discussion. Who cares if the kid is mad or doesn't like it? It's what is best for them.
Also parents, be good role models. Don't interrupt a conversation with someone to text or talk on your cell phone with someone else without a really good reason. I have adult women friends who chat or text with other people while we are holding a conversation. It is the height of rudeness, but everyone does it. I would only interrupt a conversation if it was my kid's school calling. You can always call back in a few minutes. The world won't end.
Most of these comments are right on target. Parents, we need to be the adult here. We have a responsibility to our kids to help them develop boundaries. We limit (by programing) our sons phone use so he can't use his phone after 9:00 p.m. I am thinking of changing it to 5:00. Once he's home he can use our home phone to call his friends. Kids nowdays don't even know how to socialize when they are together.
Zombies!!! Seriously, not only are the phones a threat while driving but now they're a double threat. Now the kiddies aren't sleeping so now they're dozing off on the way to school? I've already been run into the median once via an adult cell phone 'user' and several close calls. Now I'm going to meet young Billy head-on in the twilight? I thought about getting/making a cell phone jammer for the car but it would only make a bad ituation worse - people now fumbling nonstop...
I heard that if you confiscate your kid's phone at night, you need to be sure the sim card is in it b/c they can put their sim card in any old discarded phone and text all night anyway. I saw this on TV. Some kinds can be so sneaky.
Take away the "social" in life, and add it to our newfound media - this is why we teens become disconnected.
Whether it is involving a phone, the internet, facebook, or anything else... the less we speak to people in real life, the better it seems for us. It's more "conveniant" because of its instant access. It's more "efficient" because we get a response faster than speaking with a person. It's less work for us. That is what goes on in the mind of a teenager - whose priorities lie within their habits, and not their goals.
Take me for example. I'm an average 18 year old guy, honestly. I have a terrible habit with video games and Xbox Live, because it is what I was brought up on. I was allowed to play at a young age, and have developed a secondary lifestyle surrounding it. Now, I can talk with people over a secure connection without actually having to go through that awkard "Hi, I'm Mike" stage. Texting is the same way.
It was only through recent maturing that I learned how unimportant many of these things were - my parents did an overall good job with me and raising me, mind you - which I find is something that has been lost to the annals of time in modern day parents. Still, they were not perfect in my upbringing.
I can only promise the parents reading - whether you are one of the parents who supports this or even the extremes of it, or a parent that defends their childs right/priviledge to communication to the grave - that many of us will wake up from the technology induced stupor, and will adopt habits far more beneficial to our lives.
Example - 6 months ago, I would have gone into a rage fit over this, called it blasphemy and would go off into my dark cave of tech and video games. Now? I view this as an educational take on things, and take it into account on all sides - both opposing and supporting.
We all have to grow up sometime, just don't attempt to force it early or prolong its developement, parents. Simply do what you feel is not the right thing only, but the smart thing as well.
I can remember falling asleep while talking on the phone -- hours after going to bed. Yeah, it was usually only on a weekend night, but that need to be connected to someone was strong. There was something about talking away in the dark that facilitated a more intimate communication with that person, and not in an age-inappropriate way.
I don't know if texting allows that level of closeness and that might have something to do with the anxiety and depression young people feel. I mean, they're in constant contact, but something's missing.
It will be interesting to see how social media evolves, what parts of it young people abandon and which of it becomes simply an unnnoticed part of your daily life -- and all our lives, for that matter.
Sounds like you actually have thought about life and your place in it, something unusual for someone of any age these days.
Still, one comment disturbs me: "Still, they (my parents) were not perfect in my upbringing."
My reactions: 1. Boo-effing-hoo. You didn't have "perfect" (in your eyes) parents. Congratulations. Join the rest of every other child. 2. Good luck when you have your own.
Take away there phone at night or whatever but remember that you can't do that forever. They will move out one day. Even if there 30 they will move out at some point.
I used to send over 10,000 texts a month. My mom did not limit my texting however, because I still received good grades and did my homework. I did not have a cell phone in high school. In college, I learned to turn my phone to silent, so it would not wake up me in the middle of the night. Anything that has to be texted is not so important it could not wait for morning. I had an active social life, and I did not feel like I was missing out on anything, by reading the texts the next morning. I did, however, sometimes stay up late texting a cute boy or even about homework. Are we forgetting the lives college student's live anyway? I didn't realize how terrible my sleeping habits (regardless of the texting) were until now. I graduated a year and a half ago.
P.S. Even though I do not have children of my own, I have reached that stage of understanding parents. I think children and teens still need to be supervised. They don't have that understanding telling them that sleep is more important, without a little guidance.
Too late I am offended. As a single 40 year old who has never been a parent, I have life experience too with children and often have the advantage of some distance so that I can still see both sides. I think that it is you that has no understanding of what a 40 single old can realize about humans including children and parents.
Long time singles can understand a whole lot more that we are given credit for by parents and it is a shame that many times I have witnessed parents being blind to really good impartial advice just because it came from someone who is single. We are all in the world together and we all can learn from each other, whether we are parents or not.
Texting is not my vice, but I have recently had to set some very harsh limits on my own self because I found that I can totally lose track of time on the internet, and to my amazement I found myself staying up way too late on the internet. Hours can disappear in an instant. The internet and social media can be very addictive. I disagree somewhat that tv can't be just as bad though, a similiar analogy for me is losing track of time while watching the Olympics or World Cup with 24/7 feed available.
So I can see the pull to the kids, but both adults and kids have to set limits on their time and allow themselves enough time to sleep. In the short-term, the bodies of kids seem more resiliant to sleep deprivation, where as the older adults get, the less forgiving the body seems to be. Adults have the advantage in that their bodies might not let them push as far. However, this is not a kid versus adult issue per say, adults that constantly interrupt their sleep for whatever reason, be it texts, tweets, following up on business, dealing with family drama, etc. will suffer due to sleep deprivation too. I do feel sorry for those that must have their sleep interrupted due to their jobs, newborns, sick relatives, etc., and I do understand what it is like to feel like there are not enough hours in the day, but I would guess that a lot of adults are guilty of not getting enough sleep due to less than important issues too, even if it is not texting.
Bad routines at any age can be unlearned or stopped and replaced with better routines. Getting enough sleep is not a problem only for texting teens.
I agree with macaddict. If you don't have any children of your own, you really have no idea what it is like to be a parent. People that have no children have no business telling those of us that do how to raise ours.
Let me reiterate. If you don't have children, you have NO IDEA what it's like to have kids.
You know the little things, like being up all night with them when they are sick. Taking care of them when YOU are sick. Being there when they are scared, or are in trouble. Having them love/hate you.
Even the most well laid plans go wrong. Believe me, as a parent of 3, I know!!!!
My daughter was busted texting at 4:00 a.m. in the morning. I check her text msgs, check her Face-book, etc. Kids are smart, they will get another account to hide behind and give you the one they want you to see. I noticed that she was getting in trouble for falling asleep in class. I also noticed my A honor student's grades were going into the toilet. Well, I made the decision to be a parent instead of her friend. I took her laptop (stored in my desk drawer at work), took away her telephone. Well, she found the telephone and then lied about it. I tied a brick around it and chucked it into the middle of our lake (my money paid for it, can do what I want - removed batteries to save the fishies). She is now grounded until after the 1st of the year for allowing her grades to drop because she was doing something she was not suppose to be doing (all phone contacts during school hours 10:00 p.m.), lying and in essence stealing the phone from me (as long as in my possession, belongs to me until I returned it to her). After only a few short weeks, dark rings are no longer under her eyes. Her grades have dramatically improved. Attitude seems much better, and she actually enjoys interacting with the family unit now. She was also warned that after receiving her privileges back, if this happens again she will be without a phone or personal laptop until she graduates and moves out of the home. I have had enough of placating to a teenager's whims.
Teens or not, this texting during the night stuff, instead of sleeping, is beyond belief, stupid. I too, am a supporter of taking the phone away during the night, if they cannot do the responsible, mature thing, and put it away.
I am a college student in a demanding major at a top university, and I do text and I assure you that there are teens out there that are not like this article describes. Most of my friends and I do not get enough sleep--welcome to the world of an engineering student--but we do keep up our grades and a good, face-to-face social life, and we do not text when we go to sleep--we want sleep. Upon reading this story, I looked back through my text message inbox/sent folders, and 90% of my texts involve making plans to meet somebody somewhere later that day or other quick questions of that nature--the kind of thing that text messaging is completely appropriate for. My parents are also appreciative of the fact that I text and will let them know that I am doing fine if I am unable to call them.
I agree with several previous posters--the trick to having kids not text excessively or engage in any other destructive behaviors is teach morals and responsibility starting from an early age. You can't wait until you have a teenager on your hands and then try and teach--that is to late. I am all for personal responsability, and personal responsability for certain things need to start very young. If you teach your kid right, there is no need to go through their messages or anything--that only proves that you do not trust them, and they will not trust you. Sometimes, kids need to be let to make their own decisions and not have their lives run for them--it will make it a lot easier for them when they got to college if they unerstand responsability and consequences and how to make decisions and don't feel like they need to go crazy because they finally have some freedom!
On a side note--maybe the teens who text when they go to sleep are just bored. They should find something to get involved with!
I beg to differ. My daughter was taught responsibility, consequences, and "morals" throughout her entire life. She is now close to graduating and seeking to be where you are. Peer pressure today is much greater than when I was in high school and probably even more than when you were in high school which I can only guess was probably a short time ago. Time changes quickly for these kids, peer pressure changes and they believe they can "hide" behind technology. You must be ever more vigilant now to protect your children from not only those predatory creeps, but also from themselves.
Today's parenting skills takes so much more into account along with responsibility and morals, but also safety, responsibility and the belief that "you are not invincible and you can be hurt by someone if you are not careful." Stranger danger has a brand new face in today's society for our kids. Today the stranger can be brought right into our homes, so we have to be more vigilant, check behind the bushes (reading text messages), look under the bed for the boogie man (myspace and facebook), look behind the texting or Facebook picture for the person that is truly actually there.
Kids today have a very hard time of growing up because society asks them to do so quickly and we as parents are trying to tell them to take it slow. They don't want to feel as though they are left behind. It is a tug of war of epic proportions today to raise a kid. The sit up straight in church, watch your manners, and don't talk to strangers (face-to-face) is so hard to get across. We only do what we can to save and protect our children.
Verizon has this great thing for parents called parental controls ... My daughters phone only allows her to contact a select few people (that I choose) when I block her for certain hours, which are during her school day and at her bedtime each evening. If parents would set goals for their kids and use the cell phones as the bait, they would be suprised what they could get their kids to do ... it seems taking their phones away is the worst thing they can imagine in life. And it can be done in stages too; take the internet away, take the ipod away, take the texting away, take the phone away completely ... punishment depends on the crime. Use it to your advantage Mom and Dad!
I agree with you whole heartedly. We use my sons phone and ipod as bait for desired behavior, they are a priveledge not a right. I have parental controls set and I review e-mails and text messages. He knows if I find anything inappropriate, those priveledges are gone. I also had the camera on his phone disabled and blocked any picture or video messages from being sent or received. They are kids and need our guidence on proper phone use.
Great tips, Michelle!
If you would just instil values and morals you wouldnt have to be a phone nazi and block them from texting at school or pic texting. I grew up in a home where I knew I would face punishment if I was doing wrong so I didn't do much wrong. I texted during school hours: between classes, lunch break, when I didn't have work to do etc. I had great grades, my laziness affected my grades more then my phone. My grandmother would looked at who I was texting and at what times but never said anything unless my grades suffered.
It wasn't until I bought my own phone that I started pic texting and trust me you children see worse on the internet and tv then is being pic texted. Stop being over protective and ridiculous and just instil ethics, work value, respect etc because one day you wont be able to control your kids.
I am trying to instill values and morals in my son. Didn't you hear about the cases of kids sending out nude pix of themselves to boys they like? All the kids had to do was get one of those pictures and they were up on charges of child pornography even though they did nothing more than opening a picture sent them. That is why I have picture messeging blocked. You can teach your kids it's wrong but that doesn't stop someone else from sending to your child.
Here is a novel idea...how about DONT GET THEM CELL PHONES!!!!! they are kids there is nothing that cannot wait until they get home to talk about. Just because "everyone else has one" doesn't cut it. Be REAL Parents and stop buying them the things you complain about them using!
I never saw worse on TV or movies than I did on my cell phone. I would have hated my parents reading my txts and looking at my pictures, but it would have benefited me in the long run. I was just like the girls in this article. Teenager's minds are easily influenced and it's so much easier to fall victim to peer pressure over a text/picture message than it is in person. I was a completely different person on the phone than I was in person. It changes you. No matter how strong your values and morals are, they are easier to break down on a cell phone.
Samiam, my son participates in school sports and clubs. Having a phone means I can find him after school. It also means when there is a change of plans or an activity is cancelled, he can let me know. I also use it to text him to remind him to turn homework and such in. He has ADHD and is forgetful.
Wow samiam that is a bit harsh.
I am a single mom working full time +, 2 active kids, and I stay very involved in their lives. They wouldn't be able to participate in nearly the number of activities they do today without cell phones. They have rules and boundaries, but they are teenagers, teens push whenever they think they can and when that happens there are consequences.
How do you need a phone to participate in an activity?? My kids participate in numerous activities and not one of them has a cell phone.
My son has had his cell phone since he was 8 and he only gets it when he goes somewhere without me. I feel better knowing he has a phone and can call me if he needs to. You people are too judgemental
Judgemental about what?
You give kids an inch today, they will take a mile, no matter how much you talk to them.
I say kids don't need cell phones at all, until they are out of the house, and can buy their own.
SamIam, I think you live in a really small town. When I have to be 3 different places at almost the same time, we rely on being able to communicate with each other. Yes I survived without a cell phone as a teen, I wouldn't have wanted one. ;) I also got left stranded waiting for hours when someone was late picking me up.
On the flipside we love teens to text at night all night long. It makes us rich as the parents shell out money for unlimited texting with no controls. Who cares if they don't get enough sleep as long as we draw a paycheck. ........signed, the cell phone industry.
TamL- Well since you Assume things I guess you can call Tampa, FL a small town. There is only 1.8 MILLION people in the city limits.
That is exactly what my daughter did to control the time my granddaughter uses here cell and the internet. She shuts her phone off through Verizon from 9PM until 7AM and unplugs the internet at night so there is quiet time. Otherwise the kid would be up all night.
"Teens send an average of 34 texts a night (adding up to 3,400 a month) after going to bed — in some cases up to four hours after hitting the sack, found researchers from JFK Medical Center, in Edison, N.J."
Only if there are 100 nights in a month. 34 texts per night for a month adds up to 1020 - 1054. One has to wonder if the researchers from JFK Medical Center are stupid or the people who write these stories just don't pay attention to what they're writing about. Perhaps their mantra is to 'make it sound irresistible, even if it's wrong!'
Eeks - I am a grandma and I do almost the same thing! My boss used to text me and I'd respond. Then when I saw this as a problem, I retired but now find myself playing games to relax (with lights out and behind a pillow so my husband doesn't see!). HOWEVER, I'm increasingly seeing this as a problem,even an addiction! And maybe this contributes to my insomnia? :-) Or I can just find a teen to text with me - haha.
How does the article's stated average of 34 texts per night add up to 3,400 a month?
it's the whole texting process... not just the 34txt-p-night. they're saying a teen texts 3400 times a month. i read that in other info about teen texting
34 texts a night after going to bed.
There are 100 nights in a month. Duh.
um, james..............most months have 30 nights...............
Edwa,
Read the article then think about it.
That's an average of 34 texts at night, alone.
What about the other 16 hours they are probably awake?
Some people have a brain, yet refuse to use it. Sheesh!!!!
OH MY GOSH, mrdano. Thank you so much! I had no idea there are actually about 30 nights in a month. I live on another planet, so I was completely unaware of this. But thank you for clearing that up!
And by the way, since you are clearly unable to detect sarcasm, this comment was also, indeed, sarcasm.
I text a lot more than 34 texts a night. I know that :P
Congrats, you contribute to the cancer. Have fun with your failing grades and adhd
Actually, texting doesn't cause ADHD, but kids with ADHD are more likely to become addicted to things like this and video games.
First of all, I'm not a kid, I don't have failing grades, And i do not have ADHD.
Texting is just a way of communication. If you say texting is going to cause someone to have ADHD, then so is talking on the phone, or typing on a computer.
The inmates ( teens ) are running the asylum. Parents who keep footing the bill for this extreme additive behavior and then wonder why their children do not bring home passing grades from school or dropping out of high school. If they can stay up all night texting they can do homework.
An unlimited texting plan is pretty cheap, actually.
Issues with kids/sleep/entertainment are bigger than just texting, and it reaches down into younger and younger ages. Parents that are in control - whatever that means these days - can set limits, take away privileges, whathaveyou. It matters some but not as much as it used to, thanks to the over stimulated white noise of American culture. Even kids raised with terrific values and without much tv, movies, advertising shill crap coming at them 24/7 a day long to be entertained non stop. They know its out there and they know they want it. Our grade schoolers have never had more than a basic clock radio in their rooms, and even that mundane gadget gets abused. We had to take away even the kiddie flashlights, when it became obvious they'd stay up quietly drawing or playing and then ask why they were exhausted the next morning. Surrounded by too much, too soon, overstimulation is hard wired into kids from day one now, no matter what parents say or do - short of locking them in a closet with no light. ;-) I fear for the nation, when I hear of little kids that already have a bedroom full of media - iPods, a computer, CDs, TVs, a phone, an XBox and a Wii. We have that stuff - most homes do, but it's downstairs and not in a kid's bedroom.
You speak the truth.
Just another example of how parents are doing a lousy job raising this generation...................
You speak the truth, as well...."just another example...."
I'm 56 years old and I've been hearing the exact same words for at least 45 years (that I remember). My parents said that their parents' friends all said the same thing too. "Parents these days are terrible. Back in my day, we did it right." Some things never change.
And remember they were barefoot because they only got 1 pair of shoes:)
Chris and Marika, I'm also the same age as you, and I agree with you. And Marika, you're right, society is changing and will change again. I do not begrudge our kids their cellphones, computer, etc., and I would never say they should never have been invented. It's all progress, and like almost anything, they can be used constructively, destructively, or just plain wasted. What does irk me though is the prevailing attitude that they simply couldn't live without these things or that they would be deprived if they had to. We got along just fine without them when we were kids. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to go back to the days of the horse and buggy and outhouses on 10 below zero nights. But even though I myself am addicted to my computer, I do not believe that my life would have been not-worth-living had they never been invented. I do not feel that I suffered socially because I never had a cellphone when I was a teen.
Be a parent and take the phone away at night-- seriously!!
What the heck are kids texting about anyway? My phone used to send and receive texts until I stopped the service and why did I stop the service...because it's stupid to me....friends and family would text me the most meaningless things...who cares if my niece just did something cute or that you are stuck in traffic.....now that I've stopped the service everyone keeps nagging me to get it back....Uh NO....people really need to get a life in my opinion!!!
You're right queenie, I feel the same way. Why text? Call, me, talk to me, that's why you have a voice, and why we have language. It's a hell of a lot simpler to just press three buttons (or one if you use speed dial) then it is to type everything out. That's an e-mail, or a letter. Why do we use a PHONE to TYPE on? Just because we can? That is stupid. Simple is smart. Got something important to tell me? You're going to be home late for dinner? Press one button and speak to me. If I'm not there, leave me a voicemail, one of those much more useful inventions on the cellphone.
Parents need to retake control of their children. Many are so apathetic about technology , they don't even know there is a problem. So sad.
This article couldn't be more true to my house right now. Just 3 weeks ago we completely took away my oldest's phone at bedtime. She would get texts at 4 in the morning, waking us up too. She fought us at first, but it seems to be okay (so far). She says she wouldn't answer, just read it and go back to sleep...we know better. We are paying the bill, we can and should control what she gets to do on it. Anyone else have trouble with them using it during the school day, too (51 was the highest amount so far? We have verizon and they have a way for us to see all incoming and outgoing texts, but not what was in the message.
It is definitely intriguing the way technology has unintended effects. First, the Internet that was supposed to bring us all together sits people in a room by themselves. And now texting and "social media" has turned people, mainly younger ones, into social retards. I see 2 women eating at a restaurant all the time not talking but texting to someone else and the people (usually women) texting and driving down the highway is a dramatically increasing problem. I find a lot of today's youth distant and very unresponsive in conversation when we used to be active and energetic. It's really weird....
Both of my kids have cel phones but they are turned off at 9 each night, except weekends when they are allowed to have them on until 11. Their phones are turned off during school hours also. They know if they do not follow the rules, they do not get phones. period. The use of cel phones does not have to be a problem, if the children are raised to respect their parents and the rules of the house. The one time they were on the phone during non approved hours, I put their phone in my room for a week, they haven't done it since. If children know there are true consequences when they break a rule and that those consequences will actually affect their wants and desires, they will be more apt to not break said rules.
I text prolly 7 times that, up to 22,000 a month, that and i dont have ADHD, ADD, Bad grades, bad morals, or anything. I actually am doing pretty damn well with my life Id say with now a college degree and 3 years in the army and a 6 figure job now too. Its not texting or whatever, its the lack of discipline children have and the lack of committment parents have to set good standards. im only 23 years old but still realise this, people need to take responsabilty more often
6 figures? Maybe the vocabulary, puncuation and spelling skills of 6th grader. Stellar example, 'perfesser'!
OMG..BFF...LOL...
Yeah...and use prolly in a contract proposal.
LOL
LOL Soop!!!! Good One, I was thinking the exact same thing when I read that post.
Now we're rollin'!!!
I see it as the bizarre evolution of language. First the post office, then land line telephones, cell phones, email, texting and now social media. It's all about communication and us humans thrive on being social beings. its funy taht sphelling relly inisnt as imporrtant as we thaught thouw : ) In fact, it's easy to tell if someone is under 25 now based on lack of grammer skills... If you can spell you must be some old dude!
Oh well, onward into the future! Can't wait until we all have gps and video chat... oh wait?
next time maybe, maybe spell 'grammar' right
22,000 texts a month are about 733 messages a day... Yeah, that leaves you plenty of time to pursue a PhD, then win the Gulf War and then take on Wall Street or wherever they're giving you that 6-figure pay.
Just sayin'.
This is one more example of a generation that is totally lost. All they think about is texting, music(Lady Gaga), but not the future for them other then flipping burgers. Yes, there are those that have the brains to go forth, but they will be labled as over achievers and they should be forced to share their wealth. The gap widen between the have and have nots. If they can't have more self worth then feel they have to text late at late then they are doomed by their own stupidity.
They think they rule the air because of some advertisement to make them feel they have worth, but all along these companies just rake in the money from these idiots.
You can't do this with a college freshman, but it should be treated the way the phone was when I was a kid for high school and younger. No phone in a kids room, no calls (or texts) after a certain time or during homework time. It's really simple when you are a parent. Make the rule and enforce it. The phone does not enter the child's bedroom after a certain time. Period. End of discussion. Who cares if the kid is mad or doesn't like it? It's what is best for them.
Also parents, be good role models. Don't interrupt a conversation with someone to text or talk on your cell phone with someone else without a really good reason. I have adult women friends who chat or text with other people while we are holding a conversation. It is the height of rudeness, but everyone does it. I would only interrupt a conversation if it was my kid's school calling. You can always call back in a few minutes. The world won't end.
Most of these comments are right on target. Parents, we need to be the adult here. We have a responsibility to our kids to help them develop boundaries. We limit (by programing) our sons phone use so he can't use his phone after 9:00 p.m. I am thinking of changing it to 5:00. Once he's home he can use our home phone to call his friends. Kids nowdays don't even know how to socialize when they are together.
Zombies!!! Seriously, not only are the phones a threat while driving but now they're a double threat. Now the kiddies aren't sleeping so now they're dozing off on the way to school? I've already been run into the median once via an adult cell phone 'user' and several close calls. Now I'm going to meet young Billy head-on in the twilight? I thought about getting/making a cell phone jammer for the car but it would only make a bad ituation worse - people now fumbling nonstop...
I heard that if you confiscate your kid's phone at night, you need to be sure the sim card is in it b/c they can put their sim card in any old discarded phone and text all night anyway. I saw this on TV. Some kinds can be so sneaky.
Take away the "social" in life, and add it to our newfound media - this is why we teens become disconnected.
Whether it is involving a phone, the internet, facebook, or anything else... the less we speak to people in real life, the better it seems for us. It's more "conveniant" because of its instant access. It's more "efficient" because we get a response faster than speaking with a person. It's less work for us. That is what goes on in the mind of a teenager - whose priorities lie within their habits, and not their goals.
Take me for example. I'm an average 18 year old guy, honestly. I have a terrible habit with video games and Xbox Live, because it is what I was brought up on. I was allowed to play at a young age, and have developed a secondary lifestyle surrounding it. Now, I can talk with people over a secure connection without actually having to go through that awkard "Hi, I'm Mike" stage. Texting is the same way.
It was only through recent maturing that I learned how unimportant many of these things were - my parents did an overall good job with me and raising me, mind you - which I find is something that has been lost to the annals of time in modern day parents. Still, they were not perfect in my upbringing.
I can only promise the parents reading - whether you are one of the parents who supports this or even the extremes of it, or a parent that defends their childs right/priviledge to communication to the grave - that many of us will wake up from the technology induced stupor, and will adopt habits far more beneficial to our lives.
Example - 6 months ago, I would have gone into a rage fit over this, called it blasphemy and would go off into my dark cave of tech and video games. Now? I view this as an educational take on things, and take it into account on all sides - both opposing and supporting.
We all have to grow up sometime, just don't attempt to force it early or prolong its developement, parents. Simply do what you feel is not the right thing only, but the smart thing as well.
A comment from a teen - Mike Darro
I think you're onto something, Mike.
I can remember falling asleep while talking on the phone -- hours after going to bed. Yeah, it was usually only on a weekend night, but that need to be connected to someone was strong. There was something about talking away in the dark that facilitated a more intimate communication with that person, and not in an age-inappropriate way.
I don't know if texting allows that level of closeness and that might have something to do with the anxiety and depression young people feel. I mean, they're in constant contact, but something's missing.
It will be interesting to see how social media evolves, what parts of it young people abandon and which of it becomes simply an unnnoticed part of your daily life -- and all our lives, for that matter.
Thanks for the thoughtful post.
Sounds like you actually have thought about life and your place in it, something unusual for someone of any age these days.
Still, one comment disturbs me: "Still, they (my parents) were not perfect in my upbringing."
My reactions: 1. Boo-effing-hoo. You didn't have "perfect" (in your eyes) parents. Congratulations. Join the rest of every other child. 2. Good luck when you have your own.
Take away there phone at night or whatever but remember that you can't do that forever. They will move out one day. Even if there 30 they will move out at some point.
I used to send over 10,000 texts a month. My mom did not limit my texting however, because I still received good grades and did my homework. I did not have a cell phone in high school. In college, I learned to turn my phone to silent, so it would not wake up me in the middle of the night. Anything that has to be texted is not so important it could not wait for morning. I had an active social life, and I did not feel like I was missing out on anything, by reading the texts the next morning. I did, however, sometimes stay up late texting a cute boy or even about homework. Are we forgetting the lives college student's live anyway? I didn't realize how terrible my sleeping habits (regardless of the texting) were until now. I graduated a year and a half ago.
P.S. Even though I do not have children of my own, I have reached that stage of understanding parents. I think children and teens still need to be supervised. They don't have that understanding telling them that sleep is more important, without a little guidance.
blc23,
No offense, but if you don't have children, you have NO understanding whatsoever about them.
Parenthood is something that is learned through life experience, not education, or reading books.
macaddict,
Too late I am offended. As a single 40 year old who has never been a parent, I have life experience too with children and often have the advantage of some distance so that I can still see both sides. I think that it is you that has no understanding of what a 40 single old can realize about humans including children and parents.
Long time singles can understand a whole lot more that we are given credit for by parents and it is a shame that many times I have witnessed parents being blind to really good impartial advice just because it came from someone who is single. We are all in the world together and we all can learn from each other, whether we are parents or not.
Texting is not my vice, but I have recently had to set some very harsh limits on my own self because I found that I can totally lose track of time on the internet, and to my amazement I found myself staying up way too late on the internet. Hours can disappear in an instant. The internet and social media can be very addictive. I disagree somewhat that tv can't be just as bad though, a similiar analogy for me is losing track of time while watching the Olympics or World Cup with 24/7 feed available.
So I can see the pull to the kids, but both adults and kids have to set limits on their time and allow themselves enough time to sleep. In the short-term, the bodies of kids seem more resiliant to sleep deprivation, where as the older adults get, the less forgiving the body seems to be. Adults have the advantage in that their bodies might not let them push as far. However, this is not a kid versus adult issue per say, adults that constantly interrupt their sleep for whatever reason, be it texts, tweets, following up on business, dealing with family drama, etc. will suffer due to sleep deprivation too. I do feel sorry for those that must have their sleep interrupted due to their jobs, newborns, sick relatives, etc., and I do understand what it is like to feel like there are not enough hours in the day, but I would guess that a lot of adults are guilty of not getting enough sleep due to less than important issues too, even if it is not texting.
Bad routines at any age can be unlearned or stopped and replaced with better routines. Getting enough sleep is not a problem only for texting teens.
I agree with macaddict. If you don't have any children of your own, you really have no idea what it is like to be a parent. People that have no children have no business telling those of us that do how to raise ours.
Soapbox.
Let me reiterate. If you don't have children, you have NO IDEA what it's like to have kids.
You know the little things, like being up all night with them when they are sick. Taking care of them when YOU are sick. Being there when they are scared, or are in trouble. Having them love/hate you.
Even the most well laid plans go wrong. Believe me, as a parent of 3, I know!!!!
My daughter was busted texting at 4:00 a.m. in the morning. I check her text msgs, check her Face-book, etc. Kids are smart, they will get another account to hide behind and give you the one they want you to see. I noticed that she was getting in trouble for falling asleep in class. I also noticed my A honor student's grades were going into the toilet. Well, I made the decision to be a parent instead of her friend. I took her laptop (stored in my desk drawer at work), took away her telephone. Well, she found the telephone and then lied about it. I tied a brick around it and chucked it into the middle of our lake (my money paid for it, can do what I want - removed batteries to save the fishies). She is now grounded until after the 1st of the year for allowing her grades to drop because she was doing something she was not suppose to be doing (all phone contacts during school hours 10:00 p.m.), lying and in essence stealing the phone from me (as long as in my possession, belongs to me until I returned it to her). After only a few short weeks, dark rings are no longer under her eyes. Her grades have dramatically improved. Attitude seems much better, and she actually enjoys interacting with the family unit now. She was also warned that after receiving her privileges back, if this happens again she will be without a phone or personal laptop until she graduates and moves out of the home. I have had enough of placating to a teenager's whims.
I wish more parents would do this.
Teens or not, this texting during the night stuff, instead of sleeping, is beyond belief, stupid. I too, am a supporter of taking the phone away during the night, if they cannot do the responsible, mature thing, and put it away.
I am a college student in a demanding major at a top university, and I do text and I assure you that there are teens out there that are not like this article describes. Most of my friends and I do not get enough sleep--welcome to the world of an engineering student--but we do keep up our grades and a good, face-to-face social life, and we do not text when we go to sleep--we want sleep. Upon reading this story, I looked back through my text message inbox/sent folders, and 90% of my texts involve making plans to meet somebody somewhere later that day or other quick questions of that nature--the kind of thing that text messaging is completely appropriate for. My parents are also appreciative of the fact that I text and will let them know that I am doing fine if I am unable to call them.
I agree with several previous posters--the trick to having kids not text excessively or engage in any other destructive behaviors is teach morals and responsibility starting from an early age. You can't wait until you have a teenager on your hands and then try and teach--that is to late. I am all for personal responsability, and personal responsability for certain things need to start very young. If you teach your kid right, there is no need to go through their messages or anything--that only proves that you do not trust them, and they will not trust you. Sometimes, kids need to be let to make their own decisions and not have their lives run for them--it will make it a lot easier for them when they got to college if they unerstand responsability and consequences and how to make decisions and don't feel like they need to go crazy because they finally have some freedom!
On a side note--maybe the teens who text when they go to sleep are just bored. They should find something to get involved with!
Collegestudent91
I beg to differ. My daughter was taught responsibility, consequences, and "morals" throughout her entire life. She is now close to graduating and seeking to be where you are. Peer pressure today is much greater than when I was in high school and probably even more than when you were in high school which I can only guess was probably a short time ago. Time changes quickly for these kids, peer pressure changes and they believe they can "hide" behind technology. You must be ever more vigilant now to protect your children from not only those predatory creeps, but also from themselves.
Today's parenting skills takes so much more into account along with responsibility and morals, but also safety, responsibility and the belief that "you are not invincible and you can be hurt by someone if you are not careful." Stranger danger has a brand new face in today's society for our kids. Today the stranger can be brought right into our homes, so we have to be more vigilant, check behind the bushes (reading text messages), look under the bed for the boogie man (myspace and facebook), look behind the texting or Facebook picture for the person that is truly actually there.
Kids today have a very hard time of growing up because society asks them to do so quickly and we as parents are trying to tell them to take it slow. They don't want to feel as though they are left behind. It is a tug of war of epic proportions today to raise a kid. The sit up straight in church, watch your manners, and don't talk to strangers (face-to-face) is so hard to get across. We only do what we can to save and protect our children.