Religion, political fanaticism, television, drugs.... Seems like humans have a great need to perceive reality in a twisted way. We should change the name of our species, drop the "Sapiens" and replace it with something appropiate. Is the latin expression for happily stoned "Lapidaurs Felix" or something like that? Maybe "Idioticus Maximus" will do.
...and alcohol is still the most harmful drug of them all, then tobacco...but those are ok, because your politicians said so...because big pharmaceutical, alcohol, and tobacco corps paid them to say so, so it must be true...
Step 2. End Prohibition
Drug prohibition does more to make Americans unsafe than any other factor. Just as alcohol prohibition gave us Al Capone and the mafia, drug prohibition has given us the Crips, the Bloods and drive-by shootings. Consider the historical evidence: America's murder rate rose nearly 70% during alcohol prohibition, but returned to its previous levels after prohibition ended. Now, since the War on Drugs began, America's murder rates have doubled. The cause/effect relationship is clear. Prohibition is putting innocent lives at risk.
What's more, drug prohibition also inflates the cost of drugs, leading users to steal to support their high priced habits. It is estimated that drug addicts commit 25% of all auto thefts, 40% of robberies and assaults, and 50% of burglaries and larcenies. Prohibition puts your property at risk. Finally, nearly one half of all police resources are devoted to stopping drug trafficking, instead of preventing violent crime. The bottom line? By ending drug prohibition Libertarians would double the resources available for crime prevention, and significantly reduce the number of violent criminals at work in your neighborhood.
you got that right!! remember when a very short term, Surgeon General, stated, legalize all drugs,term over,but!!A reporter in Denver, met with the top dealers in Co, to do an interview. they all got on there knees, and asked, not to legalize drugs?? it would ruin a muilt-TRILLION dollar buisn, with no taxes, Workman's comp, or benefits,or employees, it is a most generous industry,when it comes to profit. To tell the truth i don't want 500,000 troops coming home to Jack Danials, instead of a joint, to calm down to normal. Arguing with Jack will not leave you calm...
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results."
most users know there limits and BTW you can smoke a joint and be perfectly capable of driving unimpaired. is it not 12 hours for and good night of beer?
Then you see the rise in car crashes and fatalities, when they're smoking and driving!
No Julie, you won't see a rise in car crashes or fatalities......someone that is stoned is terrified to drive more than about ten miles an hour! And you can't overdose and kill yourself, you just get the munchies and go to sleep!
Perhaps, Cball, but I can sip a glass of wine or beer (German for me), or coffee or cappuccino with a meal, with little enough noticable effect upon my perceptions. I've no particular need nor desire to experience more; the pleasure of the company of my wife and family are sufficient.
That works well for you, but their are 309,999,999 other People in the US. I'll bet a lot of them don't enjoy their family like you & would prefer a joint to listen to their nagging.
Then I wish them the pleasure of it. So long as they do no harm to others as a result of their drug of choice, I have no problem with their doing so. Better that than to lose their cool and harm someone. I merely find that I can enjoy alcohol in small quantities, simply for the pleasure of its flavor, while others seem to need to ingest enough to alter their perceptions. To each his own.
I have long held the position that the use of mind-altering substances, especially those that significantly alter consciousness - including the drugs alcohol, marijuana, LSD, heroin, cocaine, methamphetamine, etc., is part of a normal human practice. This belief is based on the fact that this practice has been found in every civilization having access to these drugs in all recorded history. Further, the preference of one of these over another is simply a matter of cultural identity. Use of non-culturally approved drug is considered deviance, making the user a societal outlaw. In a multi-cultural society such as the United States and most of Western Europe, this counter-culture (good grief, that's a term from the 60's) activity becomes much more common and socially, much more complex.
It is unfortunate that these types of news items usually generate comments that only perpetuate the argument that "my drug is better than your drug" - such as we should make pot legal and alcohol illegal. This only adds to the cultural conflict. Rather, we should accept that the use of drug to alter one's mental state is normal, and seek a deeper understanding of what it is that makes us desire these various inter and intra-psychic conditions.
My suspicion is that the drug use provides us with three different, yet important psychological states: opening social interaction; intra-psychic relief; and psychic interaction with a deeper reality. "Opening social interaction" offers a lowering of personal barriers allowing closer social connections (alcohol, cocaine, and to some extent psychedelics (LSD, Psilocybin, Ecstasy, etc.). "Intra-psychic relief" offers a reduction of physical and psychological pain or discomfort (narcotics). "Psychic interaction with a deeper reality" or an introspective, perhaps mystical experience in connecting to the ineffable, or to God if one is religious (psychedelics, marijuana, Ecstasy, etc.).
Each of these experiences may be preferred over the other based on the personal needs or desires of the user. It doesn't make one drug better than the other, just more accessible to one's individual needs. The need for these experiences seems more pronounced when we are younger - perhaps because we are new at making social connections, or we are having a difficult time getting used to the complexities or pressures of adulthood, or we are inclined toward religious or mystical experience but haven't fully developed other safer means to achieve this experience.
Unless ones actions bring harm upon another person, it is NO ONE'S BUSINESS what any of us may choose to ingest into our bodies... ESPECIALLY not the governments business...
People need to keep their morals, beliefs, ideas, etc... to themselves, and not impose them on others... I don't care if it's drinking a beer, smoking a joint, or even intentionally doing something potentially deadly... no one has the right to tell anyone else what they can and can't do...
Yes. The objective should be on how to channel this normal human desire in ways that both honor its reality and provide a safe and sane outlet for its practice.
Sounds all well & great to me. Where I think we hit a problem is with the Conservatives against us saying
Julie-1008419 Then you see the rise in car crashes and fatalities, when they're smoking and driving!
We need to figure out a way for 'on-the-spot detection' for Police so People can be eased into knowing if someone is stoped for reckless driving or (groucheeoleman) someone that is stoned is terrified to drive more than about ten miles an hour! This includes all drugs which would probaly mean some sort of blood test which would probably include something like replaceable insulin needles.But I believe this Center-Right country we live in needs to be eased into allowing us full control of our bodies, crap People still fight Roe vs Wade.
It's about time they trust American test, and reasearch, for some of these substances, like weed, in its natural form. As Maronol, the Synth version has had leathal side effects, the plant form does not. its about time the AMA stopped thinking about there wallets,and practiced there own oaths, to do no harm. as weed does no harm, and they know this in there hearts, and minds.thank you.
I agree that unless someone is causing harm to "others" through their use of substances legal or otherwise, the .gov has no cause to interfere. Having said that, they(the .gov) WILL continue to interfere on some or several levels, simply based on the fact that "others"(taxpayers) now have to foot that bill as well, and THEY(the .gov) need the money/employment as well.
Taking much of the profit, and therefore the violence, etc. from the drug trade(on both sides) is an admirable goal, and, legalization is one avenue toward this end. I often wonder what criminals will turn to after that, and, what all those .gov employees will do for work.
How shall we, as a society deal with what comes next(after most, if not all so-called "victimless crimes" are "legalized")? Bear in mind that the .gov has thousands of employees in large bureacuracies and a lot of money-making going on with the status-quo, so, I feel their interest lies more in their profit/employment than with any semblance of "public good".
I say this after watching over forty years of failed "drug wars" that haven't changed anything but their rhetoric.
Prescription drugs are nearly, as much abused in this country as alcohol and almost as easy to obtain. Marijuana is a mild narcotic and hardly in the class of amphetamines or psychedelics, heroin or opium. Pot is not addictive and has no major withdrawal symptoms, except in rare cases with chronic abusers. Neither does it cause Cancer!
This is a slippery slope. I would be for the legalization of marijuana. There isn't any research that has identified any reasons not to legalize. However, there remains many drugs that have been proven to be dangerous. Up to 50% of all people trying crack cocaine once find themselves addicted. A drug that would make a 9 or 10 year old sell herself in order to get it has no place in our society. Likewise, metamphetamines are dangerous as well. Crime related to drug use is a very real problem. Let's not make it worse.
America's failed war on plants and drugs has greatly fed the Mexican drug cartels, the Chinese Triad's and the drug cartels in Columbia who continue to place more and more Customs, Border, Sheriff's, Police, ATF, DEA and FBI agents and officers on their payrolls every week across America.
Much the same happened during America's failed war on Alcohol which turned small time Jewish, Irish and Italian criminal family's into large scale criminal syndicates which went on to prey on all American's for many decades.
All Americans should openly question the evil agenda which pours huge amounts of taxpayer revenues into the hands of questionable law enforcement departments and hundreds of Billions of dollars into power criminal syndicates around the world both of which prey on the American people.
With legal drug stores found in all cities across America, it is long past time to reform America's drug laws to the 21st. century, taking back control of drugs from the politicians and giving it back to the medical community and the American people.
Timothy Leary used LSD with prison inmates before his fall from grace.
He found that when his patients (the inmates) were properly led through a psychedelic "trip" by someone who understood the effects of the drug and who also was supportive, they could have transformative experiences; that literally changed their lives by allowing them to see themselves in a way that motivated such changes. As I understand it, the recidivism (numbers that end up back in prison after release) rate for most criminals is that around 70 percent return. Among Leary's study group only 30 percent plus or minus returned; in other words, if this was true, he turned the entire system on its head.
How? The reason may be that LSD - which allows no one to stop it from doing whatever it does once it gets going - had the ability to break down (giving them no choice) the conditioned, reflexive defense and habit patterns of the inmates and because they no longer were able to view the world through their hardened, clouded prism of anger and learned, negative habit patters - or whatever - enabled them to connect with a level of their minds and emotions they had probably forgotten they even possessed and/or were capable of feeling; given they had shut down being open to them as children.
Of course, you need someone to run such studies who isn't himself locked into his own rigid preconceived ideas.; not an easy thing to find. Leary was on to a good thing, but sadly made a laughing stock out of himself in the end and was also thinking that the powers that be of that day actually were really interested in the inmates being transformed. That doesn't mean he might not have been on to something postive and real.
So why wouldn't "the powers that be at that time" have been interested?
Remember, that was the time period when they still were trying to sell "Reefer Madness" as the reason to "Just say NO" - do a search re Reefer Madness - and the video related to it.
Remove all restrictions on all drugs and let the chips falll where they may. The natural progression of market forces will eventually make some more or less profitable than others and even if some of the more deadly ones are profitable the fact that they will eventually kill all the consumers will cause their use to decline which will again place a strain on their profit margins and eliminate or greatly reduce the use, production and sustainability of the industry. In effect elimination of restrictions on the use of drugs will eventually eliminate (for the most part) the supply by removing the motivation for production.(profit). even given that there would still be some demand the social problems associated with it would be greatly diminished due to the fact that demand cannot be satisfied with out supply, supply cannot exist without profit,and eventually the demand would evaporate due to lack of supply and consumers being eliminated due to the nature of the product. Much the same way that tobacco use is on the decline for all the same reasons.
Alex, you make some excellent points. Back in the day, I hit acid maybe a half dozen times, give or take...I don't quite remember. But, EVERY trip was uniquely insightful for me and to this day, some of the attitudes and feelings I "discovered" while tripping are still with me. Just no tracers, which I loved!
I also agree with Stevemarch55 in that all currently illicit drugs should be legalized.
Two reasons. One, there are those who will abuse the drugs to their death, which kinda supports Darwin's Law that idiots do idiotic things. Second, the more reasonable population, the GREAT majority of what we call "drug abusers" today would be more apt to control their intake. Most of don't eat the whole cake at one time, we take a slice and that's enough for a good while.
We ALL have habits! Some healthy, some not so much. I'm tired of the government dictating an area of my life that is none of their concern. Now, if I cause injury or death to another...totally different story. Prosecute me to the full extent of the law and throw my ass in jail. BUT...if I am harming no one, not enticing minors, acting in a reasonable fashion, then leave me BE!!!
I couldn't agree with you more Web. Self-preservation will cause people to curtail their drug use and for those who are so far gone that they don't care; well, hard as it may sound, we don't have any shortage of people in this world who actually would benefit from and actually put to use the resources being wasted both on drug enforcement, that will never win the war on drugs, and trying to get people who don't give a damn about themselves or anyone or anything to stop using them.
People sometimes just have to get to the point where they have nearly destroyed themselves before they change themselves, which brings us back to what Dr. Leary found with his convicts.
The men who ultimately really did change their lives, once they had been opened up by the LSD, were men who either before or after their experience realized that there was infinitely more to life than the callous horror they had been living and realized that no one was going to do it for them.
The acid - Oh and yes, it tis was a truly delightful drug - them were days, though long gone are they now! The acid simply temporarilybroke down the mental and emotional traffic noise that they had constanly playing over and over in their heads; by virtue of "tape loops" their upbringings, the choices, their personalities and subsequent experiences including incarceration had engendered and inculcated in them and which then had become "them".
The acid blew that all "harden" psychological cement all to hell - as a pound of dynamite would - and because Dr. Leary was there to keep them focused on more positive, enlightening aspects of this amazing world, he helped instill in them an awareness of their worthiness as human beings and that their lives and what they could do with them were important.
From that point on, it was up to them to get off their rear ends and do something with what they had learned. The fact they learned (received this "enlightenment") under the influence of a drug was totally, utterly irrelevant; it was their personal desire as free thinking men to devote themselves to change that made them change themselves. It was not the drug and it certainly wasn't the penal systems grinding punishment modality that "rehabilitated" them. (Think Alice's restaurant.)
Just as if I were lost and you, dear Web, happened to there and were kind enough to point me in the right direction. I wouldn't need you to accompany me on my journey, but it is safe to say that if not for you, and I had kept going in the wrong direction, I might never have arrived - or at very least been delayed and too late.
Edgar Cayce once said in one of his readings: "There is so much bad in the best of us, and so much good in the worst of us, that it behooves none of us to criticize the rest of us."
Edgar Cayce, in my opinion, was one of the most important men who ever lived - certainly one of the greatest of the 20Th Century. Do a search Web, if you were into things that were - shall we say that made life more colorful - you may find his story interesting. The best bio of him I have read was by Thomas Sugrue, entitled There is a River; Jesse Stearn also wrote one; The Sleeping Profit and if you want to take it one step further and explore the take on reincarnation that came out of the readings check out Gina Cerminara Ph.D book entitled "Many Mansions".
Research on "psychedelic" drugs--real research by real doctors and psychiatrists--has been going on since they were discovered. The people who are doing this believe they have a great potential for discovering the true workings of the human brain; others believe they are a spiritual path to enlightenment. It's not just kids and old hippies getting high, though of course that is part of it. Much of this research has gone on in guess where--California--for many years.
Megan D, widow of Bob "just my opinion" Wallace, 1949-2002 (He's the first "Bob Wallace" listed in Wikipedia).
Religion, political fanaticism, television, drugs.... Seems like humans have a great need to perceive reality in a twisted way. We should change the name of our species, drop the "Sapiens" and replace it with something appropiate. Is the latin expression for happily stoned "Lapidaurs Felix" or something like that? Maybe "Idioticus Maximus" will do.
...and alcohol is still the most harmful drug of them all, then tobacco...but those are ok, because your politicians said so...because big pharmaceutical, alcohol, and tobacco corps paid them to say so, so it must be true...
From the Libertarian party website...
Step 2. End Prohibition
Drug prohibition does more to make Americans unsafe than any other factor. Just as alcohol prohibition gave us Al Capone and the mafia, drug prohibition has given us the Crips, the Bloods and drive-by shootings. Consider the historical evidence: America's murder rate rose nearly 70% during alcohol prohibition, but returned to its previous levels after prohibition ended. Now, since the War on Drugs began, America's murder rates have doubled. The cause/effect relationship is clear. Prohibition is putting innocent lives at risk.
What's more, drug prohibition also inflates the cost of drugs, leading users to steal to support their high priced habits. It is estimated that drug addicts commit 25% of all auto thefts, 40% of robberies and assaults, and 50% of burglaries and larcenies. Prohibition puts your property at risk. Finally, nearly one half of all police resources are devoted to stopping drug trafficking, instead of preventing violent crime. The bottom line? By ending drug prohibition Libertarians would double the resources available for crime prevention, and significantly reduce the number of violent criminals at work in your neighborhood.
http://www.lp.org/issues
you got that right!! remember when a very short term, Surgeon General, stated, legalize all drugs,term over,but!!A reporter in Denver, met with the top dealers in Co, to do an interview. they all got on there knees, and asked, not to legalize drugs?? it would ruin a muilt-TRILLION dollar buisn, with no taxes, Workman's comp, or benefits,or employees, it is a most generous industry,when it comes to profit. To tell the truth i don't want 500,000 troops coming home to Jack Danials, instead of a joint, to calm down to normal. Arguing with Jack will not leave you calm...
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results."
Too bad this information will fall on deaf ears since it uses 'logic' and 'common sense.'
Hopefully California will once again be the trailblazer on this subject and legalize today.
Then you see the rise in car crashes and fatalities, when they're smoking and driving!
most users know there limits and BTW you can smoke a joint and be perfectly capable of driving unimpaired. is it not 12 hours for and good night of beer?
No Julie, you won't see a rise in car crashes or fatalities......someone that is stoned is terrified to drive more than about ten miles an hour! And you can't overdose and kill yourself, you just get the munchies and go to sleep!
Perhaps, Cball, but I can sip a glass of wine or beer (German for me), or coffee or cappuccino with a meal, with little enough noticable effect upon my perceptions. I've no particular need nor desire to experience more; the pleasure of the company of my wife and family are sufficient.
That works well for you, but their are 309,999,999 other People in the US. I'll bet a lot of them don't enjoy their family like you & would prefer a joint to listen to their nagging.
Then I wish them the pleasure of it. So long as they do no harm to others as a result of their drug of choice, I have no problem with their doing so. Better that than to lose their cool and harm someone. I merely find that I can enjoy alcohol in small quantities, simply for the pleasure of its flavor, while others seem to need to ingest enough to alter their perceptions. To each his own.
I have long held the position that the use of mind-altering substances, especially those that significantly alter consciousness - including the drugs alcohol, marijuana, LSD, heroin, cocaine, methamphetamine, etc., is part of a normal human practice. This belief is based on the fact that this practice has been found in every civilization having access to these drugs in all recorded history. Further, the preference of one of these over another is simply a matter of cultural identity. Use of non-culturally approved drug is considered deviance, making the user a societal outlaw. In a multi-cultural society such as the United States and most of Western Europe, this counter-culture (good grief, that's a term from the 60's) activity becomes much more common and socially, much more complex.
It is unfortunate that these types of news items usually generate comments that only perpetuate the argument that "my drug is better than your drug" - such as we should make pot legal and alcohol illegal. This only adds to the cultural conflict. Rather, we should accept that the use of drug to alter one's mental state is normal, and seek a deeper understanding of what it is that makes us desire these various inter and intra-psychic conditions.
My suspicion is that the drug use provides us with three different, yet important psychological states: opening social interaction; intra-psychic relief; and psychic interaction with a deeper reality. "Opening social interaction" offers a lowering of personal barriers allowing closer social connections (alcohol, cocaine, and to some extent psychedelics (LSD, Psilocybin, Ecstasy, etc.). "Intra-psychic relief" offers a reduction of physical and psychological pain or discomfort (narcotics). "Psychic interaction with a deeper reality" or an introspective, perhaps mystical experience in connecting to the ineffable, or to God if one is religious (psychedelics, marijuana, Ecstasy, etc.).
Each of these experiences may be preferred over the other based on the personal needs or desires of the user. It doesn't make one drug better than the other, just more accessible to one's individual needs. The need for these experiences seems more pronounced when we are younger - perhaps because we are new at making social connections, or we are having a difficult time getting used to the complexities or pressures of adulthood, or we are inclined toward religious or mystical experience but haven't fully developed other safer means to achieve this experience.
Anyway, that's my thinking on the subject...
Unless ones actions bring harm upon another person, it is NO ONE'S BUSINESS what any of us may choose to ingest into our bodies... ESPECIALLY not the governments business...
People need to keep their morals, beliefs, ideas, etc... to themselves, and not impose them on others... I don't care if it's drinking a beer, smoking a joint, or even intentionally doing something potentially deadly... no one has the right to tell anyone else what they can and can't do...
Yes. The objective should be on how to channel this normal human desire in ways that both honor its reality and provide a safe and sane outlet for its practice.
Sounds all well & great to me. Where I think we hit a problem is with the Conservatives against us saying
We need to figure out a way for 'on-the-spot detection' for Police so People can be eased into knowing if someone is stoped for reckless driving or (groucheeoleman) someone that is stoned is terrified to drive more than about ten miles an hour! This includes all drugs which would probaly mean some sort of blood test which would probably include something like replaceable insulin needles.But I believe this Center-Right country we live in needs to be eased into allowing us full control of our bodies, crap People still fight Roe vs Wade.
It's about time they trust American test, and reasearch, for some of these substances, like weed, in its natural form. As Maronol, the Synth version has had leathal side effects, the plant form does not. its about time the AMA stopped thinking about there wallets,and practiced there own oaths, to do no harm. as weed does no harm, and they know this in there hearts, and minds.thank you.
I agree that unless someone is causing harm to "others" through their use of substances legal or otherwise, the .gov has no cause to interfere. Having said that, they(the .gov) WILL continue to interfere on some or several levels, simply based on the fact that "others"(taxpayers) now have to foot that bill as well, and THEY(the .gov) need the money/employment as well.
Taking much of the profit, and therefore the violence, etc. from the drug trade(on both sides) is an admirable goal, and, legalization is one avenue toward this end. I often wonder what criminals will turn to after that, and, what all those .gov employees will do for work.
How shall we, as a society deal with what comes next(after most, if not all so-called "victimless crimes" are "legalized")? Bear in mind that the .gov has thousands of employees in large bureacuracies and a lot of money-making going on with the status-quo, so, I feel their interest lies more in their profit/employment than with any semblance of "public good".
I say this after watching over forty years of failed "drug wars" that haven't changed anything but their rhetoric.
Yoshi
I just groppled som acrids and I don't feel a fotato!
And watch, I can catch my hand!
I miss LSD terribly. It is a major life enhancer.
Come on, chemists, get busy.
Prescription drugs are nearly, as much abused in this country as alcohol and almost as easy to obtain. Marijuana is a mild narcotic and hardly in the class of amphetamines or psychedelics, heroin or opium. Pot is not addictive and has no major withdrawal symptoms, except in rare cases with chronic abusers. Neither does it cause Cancer!
This is a slippery slope. I would be for the legalization of marijuana. There isn't any research that has identified any reasons not to legalize. However, there remains many drugs that have been proven to be dangerous. Up to 50% of all people trying crack cocaine once find themselves addicted. A drug that would make a 9 or 10 year old sell herself in order to get it has no place in our society. Likewise, metamphetamines are dangerous as well. Crime related to drug use is a very real problem. Let's not make it worse.
America's failed war on plants and drugs has greatly fed the Mexican drug cartels, the Chinese Triad's and the drug cartels in Columbia who continue to place more and more Customs, Border, Sheriff's, Police, ATF, DEA and FBI agents and officers on their payrolls every week across America.
Much the same happened during America's failed war on Alcohol which turned small time Jewish, Irish and Italian criminal family's into large scale criminal syndicates which went on to prey on all American's for many decades.
All Americans should openly question the evil agenda which pours huge amounts of taxpayer revenues into the hands of questionable law enforcement departments and hundreds of Billions of dollars into power criminal syndicates around the world both of which prey on the American people.
With legal drug stores found in all cities across America, it is long past time to reform America's drug laws to the 21st. century, taking back control of drugs from the politicians and giving it back to the medical community and the American people.
Timothy Leary used LSD with prison inmates before his fall from grace.
He found that when his patients (the inmates) were properly led through a psychedelic "trip" by someone who understood the effects of the drug and who also was supportive, they could have transformative experiences; that literally changed their lives by allowing them to see themselves in a way that motivated such changes. As I understand it, the recidivism (numbers that end up back in prison after release) rate for most criminals is that around 70 percent return. Among Leary's study group only 30 percent plus or minus returned; in other words, if this was true, he turned the entire system on its head.
How? The reason may be that LSD - which allows no one to stop it from doing whatever it does once it gets going - had the ability to break down (giving them no choice) the conditioned, reflexive defense and habit patterns of the inmates and because they no longer were able to view the world through their hardened, clouded prism of anger and learned, negative habit patters - or whatever - enabled them to connect with a level of their minds and emotions they had probably forgotten they even possessed and/or were capable of feeling; given they had shut down being open to them as children.
Of course, you need someone to run such studies who isn't himself locked into his own rigid preconceived ideas.; not an easy thing to find. Leary was on to a good thing, but sadly made a laughing stock out of himself in the end and was also thinking that the powers that be of that day actually were really interested in the inmates being transformed. That doesn't mean he might not have been on to something postive and real.
So why wouldn't "the powers that be at that time" have been interested?
Remember, that was the time period when they still were trying to sell "Reefer Madness" as the reason to "Just say NO" - do a search re Reefer Madness - and the video related to it.
Remove all restrictions on all drugs and let the chips falll where they may. The natural progression of market forces will eventually make some more or less profitable than others and even if some of the more deadly ones are profitable the fact that they will eventually kill all the consumers will cause their use to decline which will again place a strain on their profit margins and eliminate or greatly reduce the use, production and sustainability of the industry. In effect elimination of restrictions on the use of drugs will eventually eliminate (for the most part) the supply by removing the motivation for production.(profit). even given that there would still be some demand the social problems associated with it would be greatly diminished due to the fact that demand cannot be satisfied with out supply, supply cannot exist without profit,and eventually the demand would evaporate due to lack of supply and consumers being eliminated due to the nature of the product. Much the same way that tobacco use is on the decline for all the same reasons.
Alex, you make some excellent points. Back in the day, I hit acid maybe a half dozen times, give or take...I don't quite remember. But, EVERY trip was uniquely insightful for me and to this day, some of the attitudes and feelings I "discovered" while tripping are still with me. Just no tracers, which I loved!
I also agree with Stevemarch55 in that all currently illicit drugs should be legalized.
Two reasons. One, there are those who will abuse the drugs to their death, which kinda supports Darwin's Law that idiots do idiotic things. Second, the more reasonable population, the GREAT majority of what we call "drug abusers" today would be more apt to control their intake. Most of don't eat the whole cake at one time, we take a slice and that's enough for a good while.
We ALL have habits! Some healthy, some not so much. I'm tired of the government dictating an area of my life that is none of their concern. Now, if I cause injury or death to another...totally different story. Prosecute me to the full extent of the law and throw my ass in jail. BUT...if I am harming no one, not enticing minors, acting in a reasonable fashion, then leave me BE!!!
I couldn't agree with you more Web. Self-preservation will cause people to curtail their drug use and for those who are so far gone that they don't care; well, hard as it may sound, we don't have any shortage of people in this world who actually would benefit from and actually put to use the resources being wasted both on drug enforcement, that will never win the war on drugs, and trying to get people who don't give a damn about themselves or anyone or anything to stop using them.
People sometimes just have to get to the point where they have nearly destroyed themselves before they change themselves, which brings us back to what Dr. Leary found with his convicts.
The men who ultimately really did change their lives, once they had been opened up by the LSD, were men who either before or after their experience realized that there was infinitely more to life than the callous horror they had been living and realized that no one was going to do it for them.
The acid - Oh and yes, it tis was a truly delightful drug - them were days, though long gone are they now! The acid simply temporarilybroke down the mental and emotional traffic noise that they had constanly playing over and over in their heads; by virtue of "tape loops" their upbringings, the choices, their personalities and subsequent experiences including incarceration had engendered and inculcated in them and which then had become "them".
The acid blew that all "harden" psychological cement all to hell - as a pound of dynamite would - and because Dr. Leary was there to keep them focused on more positive, enlightening aspects of this amazing world, he helped instill in them an awareness of their worthiness as human beings and that their lives and what they could do with them were important.
From that point on, it was up to them to get off their rear ends and do something with what they had learned. The fact they learned (received this "enlightenment") under the influence of a drug was totally, utterly irrelevant; it was their personal desire as free thinking men to devote themselves to change that made them change themselves. It was not the drug and it certainly wasn't the penal systems grinding punishment modality that "rehabilitated" them. (Think Alice's restaurant.)
Just as if I were lost and you, dear Web, happened to there and were kind enough to point me in the right direction. I wouldn't need you to accompany me on my journey, but it is safe to say that if not for you, and I had kept going in the wrong direction, I might never have arrived - or at very least been delayed and too late.
Edgar Cayce once said in one of his readings: "There is so much bad in the best of us, and so much good in the worst of us, that it behooves none of us to criticize the rest of us."
Edgar Cayce, in my opinion, was one of the most important men who ever lived - certainly one of the greatest of the 20Th Century. Do a search Web, if you were into things that were - shall we say that made life more colorful - you may find his story interesting. The best bio of him I have read was by Thomas Sugrue, entitled There is a River; Jesse Stearn also wrote one; The Sleeping Profit and if you want to take it one step further and explore the take on reincarnation that came out of the readings check out Gina Cerminara Ph.D book entitled "Many Mansions".
True, the insights were wonderful. But there was nothing like doing a 1/4 hit of blotter acid and playing softball! Way too much fun!!!!
Research on "psychedelic" drugs--real research by real doctors and psychiatrists--has been going on since they were discovered. The people who are doing this believe they have a great potential for discovering the true workings of the human brain; others believe they are a spiritual path to enlightenment. It's not just kids and old hippies getting high, though of course that is part of it. Much of this research has gone on in guess where--California--for many years.
Megan D, widow of Bob "just my opinion" Wallace, 1949-2002 (He's the first "Bob Wallace" listed in Wikipedia).
I'm worried about the new Acai Berry fad.