The story is obviously a total mistake ... everyone knows it is far better for a child to grow up in a home where one or both parents are always drunk and fighting during the entire time the kid lives at home with parents. It is unhappy, miserable parents who remain married (remain married and subjecting the kid to the same amount of despair) who are far better parents then those who divorce and try and move on to a better quality of life.
Please tell me my tax dollars weren't used to discover this bit of "information"
Seems there are quite a few variables there, plus some data (divorces in the 40's and 50's) which just doesn't exist anymore. And - what part of childhood? My brother was 8 when my father left (in 1971) but I was 16. Pretty big difference there. Plus, divorces in the day didn't automatically come with child support, so poverty probably WAS a much bigger factor, as well as the fact there was no "no fault" divorce, so you either had infidelity which was discovered and proven, or serious abuse (because there was no such thing as a "battered woman" back then.)
I can't help but wonder if they really took into consideration the parents' reactions to these life situations. Maybe it's not the divorce so much causing stress on the child...maybe it's mommy crying every night, maybe it's one parent badmouthing another...I highly doubt it is just a divorce that can cause this.
I have to say my kids were happier after divorce. But their other parent was a pretty severe drug addict with several unsuccessful stints in both jail and re-hab. The other parent and I got along well enough that we could present a united front and when well enough the kids visited frequently.
They did well one is a lawyer the other an IT Tech both graduated Summa Cum Laude. I believe it is the parents NOT the divorce.
Perhaps this study should have been about children who were ripped from their families due to abuse, abandonment, meth production, etc. Then it might be valid.
As a child of divorce (1976, yes child support was requested, but never paid), this doesn't actually surprise me. I constantly (and i have to admit, i still feel this way as an adult), felt as if i was the bridge between very different viewpoints and thus never got used to my own experience growing up being Just my own experience, i felt like i had to be a translator to both sides of parents (b/c they couldn't interact civilly). Thus, my brain always felt split. It still does. And i'm actually a little sick of people assuming that the "stigma" was so much greater in the 40's or 50's. I think that's bull. I think in the 70's and 80's divorce just became more common, but that doesn't mean i didn't feel like a labeled kid, a compromised kid, even if people didn't come out and say it to my face. Every time people ask you "where are you from" or Where's home and you don't have an answer b/c yr parents never owned a house or lived in the same state after the divorce. I still don't consider myself as having a home. I've tried. But there is some undeniable damage. The fact that everybody (teachers, parents, friends) thought we'd all just get over it without ever acknowledging it, or saying it didn't affect me and my brother, sometimes seems just as bad or worse than all that "stigma".
Wait.... how come I cannot feel the left side of my face??? oh wait I am from am divorced family.. no wait that was 57 years ago... wait my parents divorced in the 70's I am only 42..
confusing??? yeah well so is this horse sh!t study!!!! There are so many other variables that have not been taken into account... please spare us the attempt creating more hysteria
Who is conducting the study and why? I can see it now, I'll have a stroke and then sue my parents for getting a divorce.
You can not possibly pluck one life incident and make this type of connection. You could just as well do a study about kids that ate Captain Crunch on Wednesdays during the summer and make a connection to something.
A study like this is to satisfy someones agenda. Someone that doesn't like the rate of divorce in parents is trying to figure out a way to scare them into staying together? I have an even better study, how many kids have strokes later in life because their parents stayed together and shouldn't have? That is a much more stressful environment to kids than divorce ever will be.
" I have an even better study, how many kids have strokes later in life because their parents stayed together and shouldn't have?"
Why don't you ask the kids that have to deal with substitute parents, with mom boffing NearByGuy#4 or Just Friendz#16 so that he will play an afternoon of catch with Junior. Original Dad threw a fit when Mom told him she was running off with the kids, house and assets because he didn't fit her definition of emotional fulfillment and de-parented him with a "no fault" unilateral divorce.
researchers getting paid to study stupid sh*t doubles the risk of being stupid...go get a real job so you can help lower the cost of health care in this country and do something good for you and your country!!
Of Course everything the parents does affects the child. A child can become very nervous when they hear their parents quarelling or having fights. Nervousness leads to many illnesses. Many parents doesn't realize that once they have a child it is no longer about them and it is being selfish when a parent decides to bring a child in this world and then only think of themselves and not the child's welfare. I believe this is the biggest problem where families are concerned. Wear a condom if you don't want to have a child, take precaution, If you don't and you have a child then every thing changes, your life is no longer your own to decide, it is your most utmost responsibility to see that that child is raised and cared for in the proper way. Some people are very selfish and they do not care anything about what the child goes through, only themselves, very selfish! There are some parents who wants to take care of their children but especially the mothers always like to keep the fathers away from their children and this causes confusion for the parents and the child, thus the child can get sick somewhere down the line. If each parent would put the child first then there would be no problems. It is all about the ego!! It is so very terribly sad!!!! Poor Kids I am so very sorry for them!!
Yes, I believe it. It is called "pain body" a child develops this when the parents get a divorce or always fight and quarrel with each other, the children live with it throughout their lives and carry it on to their own families. When a child cries a lot it could mean that the child is suffering because of their parents problems. A baby is born with it if the parents quarrel and fight throughout the mother's pregnancy. So the child is suffering even before it comes out of the womb.
OMG...no wonder this country is in such a f888ken mess, this is what were paying people to do? What a horsesh##it stupid study. Wake up, get a life you usless losers, get a REAL job where you actually have to WORK for a living.
I've probably increased my risk of having a stroke just by reading this dumb a** article! Just another reason for kids to mope around all their adult lives blaming their miserable existence on their parents. Try living with parents who stayed together for the sake of the kids. I should have been dead a long time ago!!
I wonder if Canadian tax-payers paid for this . . . and how much it cost . . . and whether they like their money being spent to learn something that pie-in-the-sky?
Double the likelihood . . . but what is the overall likelihood? What percentage of survey participants ended up having a stroke? That's the number that gets doubled. There are so many other likely factors worth considering that could ultimately contribute to the likelihood of having a stroke, not the least of which are high blood pressure, type II diabetes, sedentary lifestyle, bla bla bla. Why look for correlation with historical events that cannot be changed when most people don't even try to address risk factors that they can reduce?
What a ridiculous waste of financial resources! Better yet, spend the money on research to deal with the actual stroke or other heart related problem than on this stupid study!
More 'shot-in-the-dark' medical crap. All this information does is fuel insurance entities to raise rates on people who were children of divorced parents based on this so-called 'data'
This is absolutely ridiculous. What happened to our society? Have we lost our common sense? Yes, children do suffer because of their parents going through divorce and that indeed should not be taken lightly. But to say they suffer strokes as adults because of having gone through this as children? Quit trying to point the finger and study the real cause of strokes.
I feel enough guilt as it is over my children being children of divorce. And my divorce took place over 30 years ago. I would love to meet the researchers who did this purported STUDY and give them a piece of my mind. Any piece of my mind I could give them would be a plus for them as they are obviously IDIOTS!!!
Oh thank God, my parents never got a divorce, so that means that I will never have a STROKE!!! Oh wait, my dad had one and come to think of it so did my mother, my older brother had one as well as my younger brother. BUT after reading this artical I just know that I never will!
I think that I will go grab a bottle of wine because just this week I read that I can have two drinks a day with no effect. I did not want to do it last week because I read that wine can kill.
If anyone believes these types of so called studies they are dumber than my last two statements. Total waste of time and money.
With the divorce rate reaching 50 percent and the majority of children being from families which have been through divorce.....OF COURSE......children of divorce will have a greater chance of stroke or of waking up tomorrow.....or of one day having Mormon missionaries knock on their door.
I would say that most of the divorces that are done in today's world have been made way too easy and people think that their marriage will be perfect. While I am not an advocate of divorce in most cases, I feel that a few exceptions of severe abuse, sexual molestation/physical and emotional danger of the spouse and children and adultery, especially in today's aids filled world would be more than enough reason. Even the bible gives some leeway. Those would be some real and justified reasons, then we just fell out of love garbage.... Work at it!
I feel that most people just don't have realistic expectations. They have children and we are all selfish. and they expect their kids to just deal with the break up of the home.
This is sad and far too much a reality for toady's youth and young adults who know nothing of perseverance. Could some of these people be robbing themselves of a blessing of hard work and demonstration of hard life-skills that their children could benefit from, if at least tried, instead of no fault divorce.
T momma wrote "I feel that a few exceptions of severe abuse, sexual molestation/physical and emotional danger of the spouse and children and adultery, especially in today's aids filled world would be more than enough reason."
Uhhh...so, moderate abuse is okay and not a reason to get the heck out to safety for yourself and your child?
Zero abuse of anyone is allowed. Any abuse is intolerable. Sick "mommas" who think think your way are guilty of a lifetime of mentally and emotionaly scarred children.
Divorce is legal and morally acceptable. Abuse is never acceptable legally or morally.
As for using the "Aids filled world" as a reason to stay in a dead marriage with or without abuse is a faulty reasoning. Aids has nothing to do with divorce or being single or remarrying. You get HIV by having unprotected sex with a carrier of HIV or by a blood transfusion from an infected person. You don't get AIDS from being divorced or finding a new spouse. Get tested and have peace of mind
I would also argue, that of the two, marriages are way too easy to get (far easier than divorces) and that having kids should require some sort of license and proof of physical, mental, emotional and financial stability.
Impractical? Yes. So is legislating peoples love lives, and their right to dissolve their non-functioning (dead) marriages.
The results of this study are an apple and oranges comparison to kids growing up today. As the article notes, most folks do not suffer a stroke until after age 65. Kids who grew up in the late 30's, 40's and the early to middle '50's lived in a different world for many reasons. There was the depression, where single parents had a distinct disadvantage. Then came WWII. Women, empowered to a degree during the war were expected NOT to leave the home to earn a living once the troops came home. A child who lives with a single parent today does not have the same experience as a child who did this 50 or 60 or even 70 years ago. My mom divorced in 1951, a year after I was born; and, it was very unusual to have a single parent as I was growing up. Fortunately, with the help of my grandparents, she was able to finish her education and earn a good living, which may have saved me some of the stress of divorce in that era, although, it was very much hard to explain to my classmates, all of whom had a mom and dad. It was more common then for parents to have little or no contact after a divorce, so a non-custodial parent often would not be involved at all with the child/ren.
Nine years after the divorce, my mom remarried a stepdad to whom I was close. Hope the differences of my situation from many divorce situations in those years help me avoid this issue. However, regardless of my personal experience; and, as the article indicates, it is unwise to conclude that kids of divorce today will necessarily have the same experience as kids of divorce in years past.
children whose parents divorce are more likely to grow up in poverty than children of intact families, and childhood poverty is a risk factor for many adult health conditions.
In her study, Fuller-Thomson did not have data on childhood household income, so she did not investigate this potential link.
Seems that before they publish this study that they would investigate the obvious other contributing factors to extreme stress in childhood, poverty, hunger, physical verbal and sexual abuse, neglect, extreme bullying and the death of one or both parents etc... divorce is just one stressor and far less harmful than a lifetime of abuse, family violence or even dysfunction.
I'm a child of divorce and I thank God that my parents spilt early, though I wish I had gone to live with my Dad's sister or my maternal Grandmother. It was in the late 60's and early 70's the "me" generation was in full swing and both of my parents were not fit to take care of themselves much less a child.
What rubbish!! I am at a loss how these people justify getting a paycheck for this kind of bulls**t. And ultimately it gives another excuse to these whiners and losers that feed off of government sympathy. You're adults.. if you don't like your life, CHANGE IT!! And don't expect me to pay for it.
Oh what a lie?????? Unless of course, the study was done only in this country and found to be true......Are you kidding me!
The story is obviously a total mistake ... everyone knows it is far better for a child to grow up in a home where one or both parents are always drunk and fighting during the entire time the kid lives at home with parents. It is unhappy, miserable parents who remain married (remain married and subjecting the kid to the same amount of despair) who are far better parents then those who divorce and try and move on to a better quality of life.
Please tell me my tax dollars weren't used to discover this bit of "information"
These types of studies are quite subjective and its difficult to draw any solid conclusions.
In my field, a factor of 2 is not very much.
By the way, getting a divorce is for the weak. Suck it up, marrage is for life.
Every single one of my friends who comes from a broken home is messed up. Hows that for a study?
STexan, you just told my life story. Except they divorced, but had to get back together cause my mother couldn't support us on her own.
Seems there are quite a few variables there, plus some data (divorces in the 40's and 50's) which just doesn't exist anymore. And - what part of childhood? My brother was 8 when my father left (in 1971) but I was 16. Pretty big difference there. Plus, divorces in the day didn't automatically come with child support, so poverty probably WAS a much bigger factor, as well as the fact there was no "no fault" divorce, so you either had infidelity which was discovered and proven, or serious abuse (because there was no such thing as a "battered woman" back then.)
I can't help but wonder if they really took into consideration the parents' reactions to these life situations. Maybe it's not the divorce so much causing stress on the child...maybe it's mommy crying every night, maybe it's one parent badmouthing another...I highly doubt it is just a divorce that can cause this.
I have to say my kids were happier after divorce. But their other parent was a pretty severe drug addict with several unsuccessful stints in both jail and re-hab. The other parent and I got along well enough that we could present a united front and when well enough the kids visited frequently.
They did well one is a lawyer the other an IT Tech both graduated Summa Cum Laude. I believe it is the parents NOT the divorce.
Perhaps this study should have been about children who were ripped from their families due to abuse, abandonment, meth production, etc. Then it might be valid.
As a child of divorce (1976, yes child support was requested, but never paid), this doesn't actually surprise me. I constantly (and i have to admit, i still feel this way as an adult), felt as if i was the bridge between very different viewpoints and thus never got used to my own experience growing up being Just my own experience, i felt like i had to be a translator to both sides of parents (b/c they couldn't interact civilly). Thus, my brain always felt split. It still does. And i'm actually a little sick of people assuming that the "stigma" was so much greater in the 40's or 50's. I think that's bull. I think in the 70's and 80's divorce just became more common, but that doesn't mean i didn't feel like a labeled kid, a compromised kid, even if people didn't come out and say it to my face. Every time people ask you "where are you from" or Where's home and you don't have an answer b/c yr parents never owned a house or lived in the same state after the divorce. I still don't consider myself as having a home. I've tried. But there is some undeniable damage. The fact that everybody (teachers, parents, friends) thought we'd all just get over it without ever acknowledging it, or saying it didn't affect me and my brother, sometimes seems just as bad or worse than all that "stigma".
Wait.... how come I cannot feel the left side of my face??? oh wait I am from am divorced family.. no wait that was 57 years ago... wait my parents divorced in the 70's I am only 42..
confusing??? yeah well so is this horse sh!t study!!!! There are so many other variables that have not been taken into account... please spare us the attempt creating more hysteria
Who is conducting the study and why? I can see it now, I'll have a stroke and then sue my parents for getting a divorce.
You can not possibly pluck one life incident and make this type of connection. You could just as well do a study about kids that ate Captain Crunch on Wednesdays during the summer and make a connection to something.
A study like this is to satisfy someones agenda. Someone that doesn't like the rate of divorce in parents is trying to figure out a way to scare them into staying together? I have an even better study, how many kids have strokes later in life because their parents stayed together and shouldn't have? That is a much more stressful environment to kids than divorce ever will be.
AMEN Browns Backer!! :-)
" I have an even better study, how many kids have strokes later in life because their parents stayed together and shouldn't have?"
Why don't you ask the kids that have to deal with substitute parents, with mom boffing NearByGuy#4 or Just Friendz#16 so that he will play an afternoon of catch with Junior. Original Dad threw a fit when Mom told him she was running off with the kids, house and assets because he didn't fit her definition of emotional fulfillment and de-parented him with a "no fault" unilateral divorce.
researchers getting paid to study stupid sh*t doubles the risk of being stupid...go get a real job so you can help lower the cost of health care in this country and do something good for you and your country!!
Sounds like you're a divorcee.
Of Course everything the parents does affects the child. A child can become very nervous when they hear their parents quarelling or having fights. Nervousness leads to many illnesses. Many parents doesn't realize that once they have a child it is no longer about them and it is being selfish when a parent decides to bring a child in this world and then only think of themselves and not the child's welfare. I believe this is the biggest problem where families are concerned. Wear a condom if you don't want to have a child, take precaution, If you don't and you have a child then every thing changes, your life is no longer your own to decide, it is your most utmost responsibility to see that that child is raised and cared for in the proper way. Some people are very selfish and they do not care anything about what the child goes through, only themselves, very selfish! There are some parents who wants to take care of their children but especially the mothers always like to keep the fathers away from their children and this causes confusion for the parents and the child, thus the child can get sick somewhere down the line. If each parent would put the child first then there would be no problems. It is all about the ego!! It is so very terribly sad!!!! Poor Kids I am so very sorry for them!!
Not surprising. All the more reason to wear a rubber and really think about the person you're marrying, get to know them, live with them for a while.
Yes, I believe it. It is called "pain body" a child develops this when the parents get a divorce or always fight and quarrel with each other, the children live with it throughout their lives and carry it on to their own families. When a child cries a lot it could mean that the child is suffering because of their parents problems. A baby is born with it if the parents quarrel and fight throughout the mother's pregnancy. So the child is suffering even before it comes out of the womb.
OMG...no wonder this country is in such a f888ken mess, this is what were paying people to do? What a horsesh##it stupid study. Wake up, get a life you usless losers, get a REAL job where you actually have to WORK for a living.
I agree! The only problem is we don't make anything in this country anymore. I don't think there are that many real jobs left.
I've probably increased my risk of having a stroke just by reading this dumb a** article! Just another reason for kids to mope around all their adult lives blaming their miserable existence on their parents. Try living with parents who stayed together for the sake of the kids. I should have been dead a long time ago!!
I wonder if Canadian tax-payers paid for this . . . and how much it cost . . . and whether they like their money being spent to learn something that pie-in-the-sky?
Double the likelihood . . . but what is the overall likelihood? What percentage of survey participants ended up having a stroke? That's the number that gets doubled. There are so many other likely factors worth considering that could ultimately contribute to the likelihood of having a stroke, not the least of which are high blood pressure, type II diabetes, sedentary lifestyle, bla bla bla. Why look for correlation with historical events that cannot be changed when most people don't even try to address risk factors that they can reduce?
What a ridiculous waste of financial resources! Better yet, spend the money on research to deal with the actual stroke or other heart related problem than on this stupid study!
This sounds like a bowl of hogwash.
More 'shot-in-the-dark' medical crap. All this information does is fuel insurance entities to raise rates on people who were children of divorced parents based on this so-called 'data'
Good point. They probably will use it against us.
I bet they were the ones who funded this research.
This is absolutely ridiculous. What happened to our society? Have we lost our common sense? Yes, children do suffer because of their parents going through divorce and that indeed should not be taken lightly. But to say they suffer strokes as adults because of having gone through this as children? Quit trying to point the finger and study the real cause of strokes.
Seriously!
I feel enough guilt as it is over my children being children of divorce. And my divorce took place over 30 years ago. I would love to meet the researchers who did this purported STUDY and give them a piece of my mind. Any piece of my mind I could give them would be a plus for them as they are obviously IDIOTS!!!
Oh thank God, my parents never got a divorce, so that means that I will never have a STROKE!!! Oh wait, my dad had one and come to think of it so did my mother, my older brother had one as well as my younger brother. BUT after reading this artical I just know that I never will!
I think that I will go grab a bottle of wine because just this week I read that I can have two drinks a day with no effect. I did not want to do it last week because I read that wine can kill.
If anyone believes these types of so called studies they are dumber than my last two statements. Total waste of time and money.
What a load of cow patties.
With the divorce rate reaching 50 percent and the majority of children being from families which have been through divorce.....OF COURSE......children of divorce will have a greater chance of stroke or of waking up tomorrow.....or of one day having Mormon missionaries knock on their door.
DUH.
I would say that most of the divorces that are done in today's world have been made way too easy and people think that their marriage will be perfect. While I am not an advocate of divorce in most cases, I feel that a few exceptions of severe abuse, sexual molestation/physical and emotional danger of the spouse and children and adultery, especially in today's aids filled world would be more than enough reason. Even the bible gives some leeway. Those would be some real and justified reasons, then we just fell out of love garbage.... Work at it!
I feel that most people just don't have realistic expectations. They have children and we are all selfish. and they expect their kids to just deal with the break up of the home.
This is sad and far too much a reality for toady's youth and young adults who know nothing of perseverance. Could some of these people be robbing themselves of a blessing of hard work and demonstration of hard life-skills that their children could benefit from, if at least tried, instead of no fault divorce.
T momma wrote "I feel that a few exceptions of severe abuse, sexual molestation/physical and emotional danger of the spouse and children and adultery, especially in today's aids filled world would be more than enough reason."
Uhhh...so, moderate abuse is okay and not a reason to get the heck out to safety for yourself and your child?
Zero abuse of anyone is allowed. Any abuse is intolerable. Sick "mommas" who think think your way are guilty of a lifetime of mentally and emotionaly scarred children.
Divorce is legal and morally acceptable. Abuse is never acceptable legally or morally.
As for using the "Aids filled world" as a reason to stay in a dead marriage with or without abuse is a faulty reasoning. Aids has nothing to do with divorce or being single or remarrying. You get HIV by having unprotected sex with a carrier of HIV or by a blood transfusion from an infected person. You don't get AIDS from being divorced or finding a new spouse. Get tested and have peace of mind
I would also argue, that of the two, marriages are way too easy to get (far easier than divorces) and that having kids should require some sort of license and proof of physical, mental, emotional and financial stability.
Impractical? Yes. So is legislating peoples love lives, and their right to dissolve their non-functioning (dead) marriages.
I'm probably not the person to comment since I have been happily married for over forty years and neither of my children have had a stroke yet.
The results of this study are an apple and oranges comparison to kids growing up today. As the article notes, most folks do not suffer a stroke until after age 65. Kids who grew up in the late 30's, 40's and the early to middle '50's lived in a different world for many reasons. There was the depression, where single parents had a distinct disadvantage. Then came WWII. Women, empowered to a degree during the war were expected NOT to leave the home to earn a living once the troops came home. A child who lives with a single parent today does not have the same experience as a child who did this 50 or 60 or even 70 years ago. My mom divorced in 1951, a year after I was born; and, it was very unusual to have a single parent as I was growing up. Fortunately, with the help of my grandparents, she was able to finish her education and earn a good living, which may have saved me some of the stress of divorce in that era, although, it was very much hard to explain to my classmates, all of whom had a mom and dad. It was more common then for parents to have little or no contact after a divorce, so a non-custodial parent often would not be involved at all with the child/ren.
Nine years after the divorce, my mom remarried a stepdad to whom I was close. Hope the differences of my situation from many divorce situations in those years help me avoid this issue. However, regardless of my personal experience; and, as the article indicates, it is unwise to conclude that kids of divorce today will necessarily have the same experience as kids of divorce in years past.
children whose parents divorce are more likely to grow up in poverty than children of intact families, and childhood poverty is a risk factor for many adult health conditions.
In her study, Fuller-Thomson did not have data on childhood household income, so she did not investigate this potential link.
Seems that before they publish this study that they would investigate the obvious other contributing factors to extreme stress in childhood, poverty, hunger, physical verbal and sexual abuse, neglect, extreme bullying and the death of one or both parents etc... divorce is just one stressor and far less harmful than a lifetime of abuse, family violence or even dysfunction.
I'm a child of divorce and I thank God that my parents spilt early, though I wish I had gone to live with my Dad's sister or my maternal Grandmother. It was in the late 60's and early 70's the "me" generation was in full swing and both of my parents were not fit to take care of themselves much less a child.
What rubbish!! I am at a loss how these people justify getting a paycheck for this kind of bulls**t. And ultimately it gives another excuse to these whiners and losers that feed off of government sympathy. You're adults.. if you don't like your life, CHANGE IT!! And don't expect me to pay for it.