Haiti is the basket case of the western hemisphere, no real government, no infrastructure, no real currency, no exports, (except charcoal they burned their forests down to make it, and erosion has wiped out agriculture), no banking system; it relies totally on outside help. it should become a UN protective and attempt to rebuild itself in about 50 years ! Most of the aid sent is still rotting on the docks, since the different fractions are fighting on who should control the distribution >
Most of the replies to this thread make me so sad. Everyone is so willing to write off the entire nation and millions of people. Blame it on them, blame it on their history, blame it on their leaders. Complain about how rough we have it here. But at the end of the day, the monumental suffering of innocent men, women and children knows no relief. If I were 20 years younger and not struggling to feed my family, I'd be there trying to teach them the basics of sanitation, education, and self-sufficiency. I pray to God someone with some compassion and energy will do what I cannot. And yes, I donate to US charities as well. The human race is struggling. We need to band together and stop thinking of this as US vs. THEM.
This sickens me. The richest country in the world is a hundred miles from the poorest one. We as Americans should be ashamed to let this happen literally in our own back yard. Screw Afghanistan, screw Pakistan, screw Korea. If we can't make things right here, we are never going to make things right anywhere else.
Why is it up tp America to make it right? We didn't cause the earthquake or the create the greedy, broken government. America has poured billions into Haiti with absolutely nothing to show for it in the way of better living conditions and economic conditions. It's a money pit, literally and we need to get out. We also need to stop sending money to Africa and any other place, as well as stop making "loans". It is China's money we are giving/loaning not America's and America's tax payers are paying the interest.
Oh, and BTW; we are not the richest country in the world any more, or haven't you been paying attention to the news? China and India are richer than us. We are rich in debt.
Exaclty right! They should bulldoze the entire country and start over. They are ungreatful criminals that run amuck in their own country. For them to say NATO started the epademic is nutz!
If we stopped sending aid to every country with their hand out we would pay our 13 trillon dollar debt in no time flat. But we all all know that everyone is about 5 or 10 missed meals from total anarchy...thats why we shell out billions to people that don't live in the USA, and they in turn still hate our country.
Dr. Knife, How are you measuring your distance I have Haiti some 750 miles from Key West Florida. Are you forgetting the history of Haiti and the slave rebellion of the 1600's? AS a people they have been struggling ever since and are the poorest of the Caribbean. They just cannot govern themselves for whatever reason they expect handouts from others and will do nothing to help themselves. There is probably a sociological reason for this somewhere.
I have to ask, just how many times are we going to save this little island????? Mothernature does NOT want it to exist. I say force all of the people off that little rock and let mother nature do her thing.
Haiti will always be a financial toilet for us tax payers. all the money in the world wont help Haiti. THEY NEED TO HELP THEMSELVES. funny how they have all this energy to riot, and badmouth the relief workers, and beg for for help, etc., yet they have no energy to help themselves. i say instead of food and water, lets start sending planes full of condoms! sorry, but these stories about thousands dying dont affect me at all. i think god is just doing a little house cleaning.
This is spot on, Illinois. If the 3rd world wants help then they need to play ball and stop breeding. All of your money that goes to food and medical aid help to keep their over sized populations alive. Populations that must now spill into your own countries because those countries are unlivable hell holes.
Why are they unlivable hell holes? Because there are too many people kept alive with outside support in countries that do not have the social infrastructure to make it work. In the middle ages in Europe people also bred uncontrollably but then plague and famine would cut down the population again. No one helped them. But because of that they were better able to develop instead of being overwhelmed by their own mass. Instead all this excess must now be exported to you.
Stop all food and medical aid to Africa and these little bannana republics. Let the population reach a naturally sustainable level and your own immigration issues will go away. You are funding your own inevitable doom.
That country is so grossly overpopulated and they live like wild animals. Mother nature is striking. Who could even live in those deplorable conditions. Those who died are the lucky ones. Death is much better than living there.
I agree on both sides. I have relatives that live there and they are amogst ofcourse the educated and elite, however to me Haiti is mimicking the Unites States where the rich makes all the money and the poor has a weight put on thier head to carry the rich. There is not a good education system available to the poor so they stay dumb and the rich wont teach the poor because if the poor gets educated who will wait hand and foot on the rich. SO yes they need to learn to help themselves but on the other hand they need someone to teach them.
Good Question the reason is they need a cheap workforce that is dependant on them. As sad as it sounds thats just how it is in many poor nations not just Haiti. It's done here... do you think you if you knew the secrets to wealth as the mega wealthy in this country do. Don't you think your financial situation would much better? Why dont they teach everyone how to do it...because they want it for themselves.
why cant we the richest country in the world help out for free lers step up first with prayers for those that are still there,and for help.com on america we can do it. and letsmake it MERRY CHRISMAS FOR EVERYONE EVEN US.
You POS. If you are so intent to helping someone, load up your SUV with blankets and food and deliver them to a homeless shelter. the go to your bank and empty it out and donate that to the homeless Veterans and other less fortunate AMERICANS that protected your ass.
That would be a fine and humane suggestion, Hagie, but unfortunately it doesn't work like that. By keeping all these people alive artificially you make it nearly impossible for their countries to develop. Too many people that cannot be supported by their own societies level of development.
Not only that, due to the sheer population pressure in such hellish conditions a % will spill over into your country. So giving medical and food aid will inevitably result in you having mass 3rd world immigration that will destroy your own culture.
I just want to know: where are the millions of dollars donating by the publice and the HOllywood elite? Why are the Haitians still suffering so much??? I will not donate my hard earned money anymore because it goes nowhere, apparently. I'd rather give it right to family members whom I work with and let them send it to their loved ones. These poor people It's the riche elite poilticians who take it all, and leave their own people to suffer like this. Shame on them!
If any of you actually did any kind of fact checking, you'd know that the UN base has been dumping human waste into the water supply and not an "act of god." It was an act of lazy work ethic and a blind eye to fix a leaky pipe. Glad to see your compassion for your fellow man, shows your christian spirit so close to your holiday. Maybe one of your co-workers can poo in your coffee and maybe you can walk a mile in their shoes.
Only after you empty your bank account,convert your 401, sell your home and all your possessions AND donate it all to these 'people', do you have any right to say anything. Until then, crawl back under your religion, you mindless robot.
And you are right, I do not give a flip about these people. Nor do the vast majority of Americans. Wake up...the lion is not a vegetarian and this is not Disneyland!!
when a sewage pipes breaks under my house.... i fix it and get on with my life. Compassion is the problem, we need to let these worthless idiots know that we're done giving handouts. When they realize they're actually on their own...... they'll riot and kill each other, cuz that's all they know how to do.
So it's everyone elses problem to fix everyone elses problems? How about this-stop popping out 20 kids and do something to fix the problem! So sick of having to be the worls saviors. More oxygen for me, Yay! and as far as giving my hard earned money to this, I have an idea: how about giving it to the homeless vets, the disabled vets, or the families that have lost loved ones so we can live in the USA?! Now those are charities worth donating to. Let's take care of our own before we fix the worlds problems. Just my 2 cents, sorry if it offends anyone, but I have earned the right with my blood to say what I like.
I read this article in the Time Magazine a few years ago about a mother somewhere in Africa being very upset that her 2 kids died... of the 8! The article was clearly written to solicit sympathy but really all it does is make me go glazy eyed. It is unreasonable to expect you to donate when they are just breeding uncontrollably. It is in everyones interest to not send aid as it will reduce their populations and poverty. Europe went through it...
If fact in the anti-colonial political parties in Zimbabwe, South Africa the policy was to encourage blacks to have as many kids as possible so that they may force out the whites with sheer numbers. The joke is now you lot are paying for those kids! And in the future after they have spilled into your countries they will outbreed you there, while you are still paying for them with your AA policies! lol, maybe Westerners have become so dumb we deserve to die
Hate to say it but charity begins at home. You know damn well they'll being cursing the US no matter what we try to accomplish there. Wonder how the homeless Veteren sitting in the cold feels when he reads how we are rushing to help that sewer of country. Think of all the good we could accomplish here with all that aide and damned if we don't need it. Sorry Haiti the soup kitchen is closed, we have people here who would appreciate it a hell of a lot more than you. Bet those curses would turn to pleas for help & mercy once we cut the cord.
I wonder what would happen if all the people running for president, just postponed elections and actually worked together to start cleaning things up. They don't need a president to do that do they?
Of course... we're never gunna know, because they don't care about cleaning Haiti up. Just lining thier pockets. Stop all charity to this country NOW! and make them do something for themselves for once. It's called tough love.
I'm one of the courageous Haitian who spend time reading your comments.I wounder what will happen if Mother Nature turn to some of you, destroy let say 95% of what you have, if you're not gonna call for help. U S A; the land of opportunity will always be there for any country in needs.We are the father of the world under God.
Haiti is a great place w/bad government, a great nation w/financial situation and education.In addition, some of you needs to go back to History and learn a bit of the hatian pple.
And?
Haiti is the basket case of the western hemisphere, no real government, no infrastructure, no real currency, no exports, (except charcoal they burned their forests down to make it, and erosion has wiped out agriculture), no banking system; it relies totally on outside help. it should become a UN protective and attempt to rebuild itself in about 50 years ! Most of the aid sent is still rotting on the docks, since the different fractions are fighting on who should control the distribution >
Most of the replies to this thread make me so sad. Everyone is so willing to write off the entire nation and millions of people. Blame it on them, blame it on their history, blame it on their leaders. Complain about how rough we have it here. But at the end of the day, the monumental suffering of innocent men, women and children knows no relief. If I were 20 years younger and not struggling to feed my family, I'd be there trying to teach them the basics of sanitation, education, and self-sufficiency. I pray to God someone with some compassion and energy will do what I cannot. And yes, I donate to US charities as well. The human race is struggling. We need to band together and stop thinking of this as US vs. THEM.
I heard this Christmas song on the radio last night, and misted up. Things never change. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5cX_ncZLls
the human race is struggling,few species are as successful as humans.we`ve only just begun,i think we could reach 20 billion.
This sickens me. The richest country in the world is a hundred miles from the poorest one. We as Americans should be ashamed to let this happen literally in our own back yard. Screw Afghanistan, screw Pakistan, screw Korea. If we can't make things right here, we are never going to make things right anywhere else.
Why is it up tp America to make it right? We didn't cause the earthquake or the create the greedy, broken government. America has poured billions into Haiti with absolutely nothing to show for it in the way of better living conditions and economic conditions. It's a money pit, literally and we need to get out. We also need to stop sending money to Africa and any other place, as well as stop making "loans". It is China's money we are giving/loaning not America's and America's tax payers are paying the interest.
Oh, and BTW; we are not the richest country in the world any more, or haven't you been paying attention to the news? China and India are richer than us. We are rich in debt.
Haiti will not get another dime from me.
After all the Aide they got, they started riots and tried to kick everyone out. They are ungrateful, and moronic
Exaclty right! They should bulldoze the entire country and start over. They are ungreatful criminals that run amuck in their own country. For them to say NATO started the epademic is nutz!
If we stopped sending aid to every country with their hand out we would pay our 13 trillon dollar debt in no time flat. But we all all know that everyone is about 5 or 10 missed meals from total anarchy...thats why we shell out billions to people that don't live in the USA, and they in turn still hate our country.
Have you thought about running for the Presidency?
Dr. Knife,
How are you measuring your distance I have Haiti some 750 miles from Key West Florida. Are you forgetting the history of Haiti and the slave rebellion of the 1600's? AS a people they have been struggling ever since and are the poorest of the Caribbean. They just cannot govern themselves for whatever reason they expect handouts from others and will do nothing to help themselves. There is probably a sociological reason for this somewhere.
Sociological? How very liberal and diplomatic of you to phrase it like that.
I have to ask, just how many times are we going to save this little island????? Mothernature does NOT want it to exist. I say force all of the people off that little rock and let mother nature do her thing.
It's long been an island ecosystem forced well beyond it's carrying capacity for sustaining the amount of people that live there.
Haiti is a peek into the future of all humankind if we don't better manage our appetite for gourging on this planet's natural resources.
I just started wondering if cholera is the only disease going around. Could there be something else causing the deaths?
Idiocy? Does that count as a disease?
Haiti will always be a financial toilet for us tax payers. all the money in the world wont help Haiti. THEY NEED TO HELP THEMSELVES. funny how they have all this energy to riot, and badmouth the relief workers, and beg for for help, etc., yet they have no energy to help themselves. i say instead of food and water, lets start sending planes full of condoms! sorry, but these stories about thousands dying dont affect me at all. i think god is just doing a little house cleaning.
I think god is testing everyone else. Who will step to the plate and offer aid (medical) to a people in need? How'd we do?
Couldn't agree more.
This is spot on, Illinois. If the 3rd world wants help then they need to play ball and stop breeding. All of your money that goes to food and medical aid help to keep their over sized populations alive. Populations that must now spill into your own countries because those countries are unlivable hell holes.
Why are they unlivable hell holes? Because there are too many people kept alive with outside support in countries that do not have the social infrastructure to make it work. In the middle ages in Europe people also bred uncontrollably but then plague and famine would cut down the population again. No one helped them. But because of that they were better able to develop instead of being overwhelmed by their own mass. Instead all this excess must now be exported to you.
Stop all food and medical aid to Africa and these little bannana republics. Let the population reach a naturally sustainable level and your own immigration issues will go away. You are funding your own inevitable doom.
That country is so grossly overpopulated and they live like wild animals. Mother nature is striking. Who could even live in those deplorable conditions. Those who died are the lucky ones. Death is much better than living there.
Yea 'God'. Only a couple of million to go!
I agree on both sides. I have relatives that live there and they are amogst ofcourse the educated and elite, however to me Haiti is mimicking the Unites States where the rich makes all the money and the poor has a weight put on thier head to carry the rich. There is not a good education system available to the poor so they stay dumb and the rich wont teach the poor because if the poor gets educated who will wait hand and foot on the rich. SO yes they need to learn to help themselves but on the other hand they need someone to teach them.
How about your rich relatives? The ones who LIVE there.
Good Question the reason is they need a cheap workforce that is dependant on them. As sad as it sounds thats just how it is in many poor nations not just Haiti. It's done here... do you think you if you knew the secrets to wealth as the mega wealthy in this country do. Don't you think your financial situation would much better? Why dont they teach everyone how to do it...because they want it for themselves.
Haiti just can't seem to get it together. Reminiscent of many African countries?
Thank you!!
why cant we the richest country in the world help out for free lers step up first with prayers for those that are still there,and for help.com on america we can do it. and letsmake it MERRY CHRISMAS FOR EVERYONE EVEN US.
You POS. If you are so intent to helping someone, load up your SUV with blankets and food and deliver them to a homeless shelter. the go to your bank and empty it out and donate that to the homeless Veterans and other less fortunate AMERICANS that protected your ass.
That would be a fine and humane suggestion, Hagie, but unfortunately it doesn't work like that. By keeping all these people alive artificially you make it nearly impossible for their countries to develop. Too many people that cannot be supported by their own societies level of development.
Not only that, due to the sheer population pressure in such hellish conditions a % will spill over into your country. So giving medical and food aid will inevitably result in you having mass 3rd world immigration that will destroy your own culture.
I just want to know: where are the millions of dollars donating by the publice and the HOllywood elite?
Why are the Haitians still suffering so much??? I will not donate my hard earned money anymore because it goes nowhere, apparently. I'd rather give it right to family members whom I work with and let them send it to their loved ones. These poor people It's the riche elite poilticians who take it all, and leave their own people to suffer like this. Shame on them!
If any of you actually did any kind of fact checking, you'd know that the UN base has been dumping human waste into the water supply and not an "act of god." It was an act of lazy work ethic and a blind eye to fix a leaky pipe. Glad to see your compassion for your fellow man, shows your christian spirit so close to your holiday. Maybe one of your co-workers can poo in your coffee and maybe you can walk a mile in their shoes.
Only after you empty your bank account,convert your 401, sell your home and all your possessions AND donate it all to these 'people', do you have any right to say anything. Until then, crawl back under your religion, you mindless robot.
And you are right, I do not give a flip about these people. Nor do the vast majority of Americans. Wake up...the lion is not a vegetarian and this is not Disneyland!!
when a sewage pipes breaks under my house.... i fix it and get on with my life. Compassion is the problem, we need to let these worthless idiots know that we're done giving handouts. When they realize they're actually on their own...... they'll riot and kill each other, cuz that's all they know how to do.
So it's everyone elses problem to fix everyone elses problems? How about this-stop popping out 20 kids and do something to fix the problem! So sick of having to be the worls saviors. More oxygen for me, Yay! and as far as giving my hard earned money to this, I have an idea: how about giving it to the homeless vets, the disabled vets, or the families that have lost loved ones so we can live in the USA?! Now those are charities worth donating to. Let's take care of our own before we fix the worlds problems. Just my 2 cents, sorry if it offends anyone, but I have earned the right with my blood to say what I like.
Thank you for telling it like it is!!!
I read this article in the Time Magazine a few years ago about a mother somewhere in Africa being very upset that her 2 kids died... of the 8! The article was clearly written to solicit sympathy but really all it does is make me go glazy eyed. It is unreasonable to expect you to donate when they are just breeding uncontrollably. It is in everyones interest to not send aid as it will reduce their populations and poverty. Europe went through it...
If fact in the anti-colonial political parties in Zimbabwe, South Africa the policy was to encourage blacks to have as many kids as possible so that they may force out the whites with sheer numbers. The joke is now you lot are paying for those kids! And in the future after they have spilled into your countries they will outbreed you there, while you are still paying for them with your AA policies! lol, maybe Westerners have become so dumb we deserve to die
How sad...really sad poor families.
Darwinism at its finest! Go 'God'
Well ain't that the sh......
Hate to say it but charity begins at home. You know damn well they'll being cursing the US no matter what we try to accomplish there. Wonder how the homeless Veteren sitting in the cold feels when he reads how we are rushing to help that sewer of country. Think of all the good we could accomplish here with all that aide and damned if we don't need it. Sorry Haiti the soup kitchen is closed, we have people here who would appreciate it a hell of a lot more than you. Bet those curses would turn to pleas for help & mercy once we cut the cord.
I wonder what would happen if all the people running for president, just postponed elections and actually worked together to start cleaning things up. They don't need a president to do that do they?
Of course... we're never gunna know, because they don't care about cleaning Haiti up. Just lining thier pockets. Stop all charity to this country NOW! and make them do something for themselves for once. It's called tough love.
I'm one of the courageous Haitian who spend time reading your comments.I wounder what will happen if Mother Nature turn to some of you, destroy let say 95% of what you have, if you're not gonna call for help. U S A; the land of opportunity will always be there for any country in needs.We are the father of the world under God.
Haiti is a great place w/bad government, a great nation w/financial situation and education.In addition, some of you needs to go back to History and learn a bit of the hatian pple.