That's not true. It's the oil that makes the difference. Fry in macadamia oil and your heart will be fine.

sounds fishy to me

SUSHI, the answer to all the problems.. HOOYAA

Right along with the parasites associated with some types of fish. And don't forget the food poisoning that accompanies many raw dishes.

Don't forget to eat ginger with your sushi. That kills all the parasites.

But nothing but moving to the Southern hemisphere will protect you from the Mercury and Dioxins ... face it, life in North America is doomed ...

My great grandmother who lived to 98 once told me that " there are two kinds of people in this world. The fat, happy old farts. And the Skinny, Miserable dead." She then pointed around the room at all the 80+ fat old gits around the room and said. "The skinny ones aint out joggin kid!" In the end I think she died of boredom. She lived on steak, mash potato and mushy peas. If a healthy diet gave you a longer life and she was on it, she would be 136 years old now.

I don't live in the stroke belt, but when I travelled to Georgia, I noticed that the diet has a lot of fats from other sources like fried eggs and bacon - lots of bacon - buscuits and gravy with everything. I think thats whats killing people - all the other fat-bearing foods from breakfast through dinner.

I've been eating fried fish all through my life. People in Ireland eat lots of fried fish and their rates of heart attack and stroke are much lower than the USA.

The whole point to this "Finding" is to refuel the Left with their "we know whats good for you, and you don't" attitude. First they attack Bacon, then just plain old Fat on cuts of Meat( No fat, no Flavor, and skinless boneless chicken proves that), then go after my Burgers and how I'm supposed to cook the foods I eat, then what I wear, drive, do with MY income, and who to support. Is there NO END to the Left "Knowing better?" I am the only person that knows whats good for me, what I want, and where I get the things I like. I will only use these articles for fodder to prove my point that the Left only wants to dictrate EVERYONES'S personal life, but they can stay out of mine.

Did you happent o notice that the study was done in the Predominately Black South, where people have enjoyed these foods for centuries? Did you notice it left out any mention of Pork chops, Roasts, Ribs, Mashed 'taters, gravies, sweets? Only the Leftist next target, FRIED FOOD, was mentioned. Bad for you? Maybe, but it sure tastes a lot better than Steamed or Boiled, and more fun to eat.

I love this comment! How true! (Ray 1033782)

Don't forget the slice of onion on the side.

The "Stroke Belt" region also consumes lots of fried chicken and other fried foods. Did this study case-control for people of similar race and levels of obesity in other regions?

There is a lot of obesity out there. It may be more obvious in the South, but when I have been up north on summer study trips, obesity is a problem there, too. The UP of Michigan, Wisconsin, and upstate NY are some obesity hot spots that are definately out of the "Southern Fried Stroke Belt". Superior, Wisconsin and Herkimer, NY come to mind as having some pretty hefty folks sitting down at Perkins.

Debbie when is dinner? Can we have some white beans and cornbread too?

My family usually had blackeyed peas and cornbread with their fried fish.

So now is "eating a poor diet by CHOICE" going to be the new disability the Lazy will swarm to use to get more cash for designer clothes and going Clubbing? Probably, because under Liberal policies, no one can be held responsible for their own actions, they are ALL victims of "Society". However, they, the Fried food eaters, create their own Society, and therefore the Taxpayer will pay more for the "Defect".

Oh, give it a rest. But the truth is that everyone else IS paying for this.

so you people eat crap and then brag about it? I wouldnt be so proud of your disgusting eating habits, debbie.

i know that the quicker one gets to the hospital after a stroke, the better one's chances are at getting better.. I did not see anything that mentions that.

Ray-1033782.....You are really quite silly, I would rather assume that you are making jokes, as if you are thinking clearly I have never heard such nonsense in my life....Things will never change!

Yes, Morgan-928768, because no one in the USA eats crap food besides the South, right? Change your user name to Moron, it fits you better.

I'm moving to the South! All this stuff sounds delicious !

mrsmajor----- I jest not!!!!!! ANYTHING that the Left's "Science" happens to come up with by "Financed" studies, where the payer gets the desired results, will become a defect in Society, and will therefore qualify for "Special"circumstance due to the differences in the racial make-up of those eating fried foods, and they can't be held to make their own choices. The Left feels that ANY circumstance, especially choice, should be held as a symbol of the poor ghetto rats and bangers being suppressed. They don't accept responsibility for their diet, but certainly will claim that Heart condition they knew they would get for the cash benefits. When I lived in Charlotte, NC, I did a personal test of who received free Foods from charity. To include toys, and clothes also. At 7 different "Giveaway" Locations, the same 16 cars, with the same driver and helpers, arrived at ALL 7 locations for the "Goodies". Those that needed in reality were being ripped off by the greedy, as the greedy took those items and sold them at flea markets and on the street. Very nice, but after all, they have a "right" to collect?

This is the same city where the Dept. of Social Services chairman stated the fact that "We know about 20% of the receipients of the Service were known Illegal immigrants, but She could say NOTHING". The only time the Dept. could say something is when ICE served the Illegal with deportation papers. How in the Hell does one Agency prevent another from enforcing the law? Expain that clearly, please.

Helping those that NEED the help, if LEGAL, is fine, but, when Welfare, Baby Mamas and Baby Daddies become the family business for generations, then yes, I get very angry. It isn't the general American public approving these giveaways, it's the Left allowing the Law to be broken, and all at Taxpayer expense.

Happy now, lefties, because your giveaways and lack of oversight has made a mockery of the programs that are there to actually help those in need, just to feed the greed of those that don't need it and use them for a "side hustle" in Ghetto terms?

This is much more prevelant than the Programs will admit, and it needs to be fixed.

Fried fish? We have bigger problems than Fried fish. But not one single Politician will say so, for fear of being labled Racist.

Agreed. Why did they have to say fish? It's been well documented that lack of exercise and anything fried(fish, chicken, steak, donuts, ect) will lead to a higher risk of a stroke and heart attack. I guess they needed to add a specific to make it "new news".

I never had high B/P in my life! I had a stroke, and it was do to stress. Not from eating fried fish, believe me!

Also, weak articles on line.

Pensacola....there is nothing better than the grilled catfish at Crackerbarrel. It doesn't have to be fried to taste good, in fact, it tastes better grilled. I love fish, I just don't like it fried because all you taste is the batter.

Humans are omnivores, we eat meat. The cavemen did not have a nice salad and tofu in winter time. Anyway, vegetarians/herbivores are always farting.

There is healthy and unhealthy cholesterol, not all cholesterol is bad. Our teeth are the teeth of omnivores, we have both grinding (molars) and tearing (incisors/canines) teeth. We are meant to consume both animal and plant matter to survive. The animal dies to feed us, that is the circle of life. It has been that way for millennial.
I am a pagan, a nature worshiper, and I love animals and have quite a few pets. I still eat meat, because as a pagan, I recognize that we are meant to be this way, and that we are meant to play our part in the great cycle of birth, death, and rebirth.

silvershadows

Gotta give you credit for having a reasonable approach to meat. Breath of fresh air in all the anti-meat nonsense.

Most meat, poultry and fish were healthy food until they became corn fed at least according to one article I read a while back.

silvershadows,

How right you are. Another feature of humans---our eyes point/focus forward---an obvious feature of omnivores/carnivores in the animal world----cats, dogs, eagles, hawks, sharks, 'cudas, etc.

Let's see....

--we have shorter intestines than herbivores, and no additional stomachs for breaking down plant nutrients like cellulose

--we can't personally manufacture all amino acids like herbivores, so we need to get complete proteins from animals that do

--Vegans fare worse in cardiovascular disease studies than partial vegetarians, not to mention they MUST supplement their diet for nutrients like B12 or else they'll suffer from deficiencies

--Many studies that control for other healthy-eating behaviors (like limiting meat portions, eating lots of veggies, not eating junk) find that supposed health benefits associated with vegetarianism disappear--it's really the lack of produce, oversized portions of high-fat meats, and processed and fried foods that account for why "typical" meat eaters fare worse than vegetarians.

and everything the good people of this thread have already mentioned about occasional meat eating being natural.

If you want to get all caveman about it; we survived on veggies, we prospered on occasional meat.

They do not fry their fish in lard over there in the south they do

So it's not so much the fried fish but what you fry it in that's the issue.

"They do not fry their fish in lard over there in the south they do"

Wrong. You are talking about a frying method that is very, very rarely used in the south, or anywhere else, in many years. Oil is the most commonly used medium.

I do not fry my fish or anything else in lard. I love fried fish and fried chicken. Good southern food. And don't forget the hush puppies and biscuits too! Yum, good eats.

Just hang on. With the proliferation of fast food restaurants in urbanized areas of China (not to mention the high rates of smoking), those "one child" generations are going to be the last of their family lines. Expect a health-care crisis to grip China over the next 10-25 years.

Not just diet, folks. It's lifestyle.

Blacks are not the cursed race, and don't say things like that if you don't want reponses. EVERYONE IN THE SOUTH has been told that science is gobbledegook and we shouldn't listen to it, even if our families are prematurely dying. Black people are not all hockin' down gravy-smothered pork chops while sitting on our butts. Yes, I resent the implication that Black people, who "must" have all these wonderful grocery stores with bitter melon and papaya, would CHOOSE to have fried crap all the time. If grocery stores would be more concerned with societal health than making a buck, and if all kids were taught to garden instead of tweet, EVERYONE would be healthier. Black people don't prefer to be unhealthy, especially since we don't all have jobs and can't afford healthcare. Be quiet.

@Whatever - When you go to the grocery store, it is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to buy the food that is right for you and your family. Sure the store might sell unhealthy food, but ultimately it comes down to the decisions you make. Same with fast food restaurants too. They sell a product and it is our responsibility to choose whether to eat there or not. If you dont want to get fat and unhealthy, then dont eat there. Simple as that.

I think ignorance of healthy eating curses any race.

It angers me when people that are not black try to discuss Black Americans' habits without proper knowledge. Most black people live in urban areas and in urban areas, the cost of living is higher than non-urban areas. This especially relates to food cost.

The national average cost of a gallon of milk is more expensive than a 2L of Coca Cola, and the national average cost of a Big Mac is cheaper than a 1/2 lb of chicken. If you're working-class, it's cheaper to eat fast food than go to grocery store. Hence, health problems. Work on making organic and healthy produce more affordable, and then you'll sound less ignorant and bigoted.

I cry B.S. on the food desert argument for many people of all races. I'm not the food police, but I do tend to pay attention to what other people tend to buy when I'm waiting in line at the grocery store. (It's more interesting than looking at tabloid headlines, although the store where I do most of my shopping doesn't have periodicals at the checkouts.) I see people loading their carts with prepared garbage that costs far more than what it would cost to put more healthful foods in that same cart. The better foods would be more filling and nourishing; most could be made with little effort. Produce doesn't have to be expensive when you buy (gasp!) conventionally grown fruits and vegetables, frozen vegetables, and/or canned produce packed in juice or lower salt vegetables (regular ones can be rinsed to help rid them of excess salt). I volunteered at a food bank in Pittsburgh for several years and many of the fruits and vegetables went begging, as most who came through our doors wanted the prepared garbage that they were used to eating. Unfortunately, their children are learning poor eating habits as ignorance begets ignorance. My heart aches for those who truly live in urban food deserts with only convenience store foods available to them.

Poor people want the prepared stuff cuz its also costs money to have a kitchen. One really weird thing I remember from the 3rd world is how everybody ate even simple food at the takeout vendors. Then I realized how much its costs to own pots, pans, fuel, water, etc just to cook for yourself. At the really low end, its cheaper to eat takeout (competition keeps the prices low) and the US equivalent is processed food.

I think you hit on a factor for stroke with the salt. Fried food just calls out for salt. Salt does drive up the blood pressure.

As an aside, I love watching the Food Network and I think all the cooks use way too much salt.

Maybe it is not the fish itself...but the amount we eat. Choose to eat less, maybe that would help.

wsuperman444

Salt leads to hypertension only if the person's genetic heritage has made him/her susceptible. If your ancestry includes people from highly leached environments, such as the Amazon Basin, yes, salt will raise your BP. If your ancestors made their livelihood from the sea, salt will usually have little effect, and restriction can make one susceptible to heat stroke.

The last study I read found only about 25% of the people in the U.S. to be salt reactive.

"It's called "science".

Don't worry about it. Go watch TV."

I watch TV, and I also read.

Maybe it is junk science? Cause and effect is often ignored when a project is begun with operator bias. What was the intended purpose of the study? Why was it deemed necessary? Were all other causes considered? Etc.....

Read, "Betrayers of the Truth: Fraud and Deceit in the Halls of Science"

Spike, you know what you're talking about. Junk science is s.o.p. for epidemiologists gone wild. Ignore the other causative factors. Think EMF and powerlines. Idiots.

LARD is the name of it and man does it flavor fried foods. I eat fried fish hushpuppies and fries with fish i catch cooked in lard but no more than once a month I only eat steak once a month also. Get out of the boat start a fire cook up some fish and fried potatoes in lard or bacon grease its heaven. Plate of perch and potatoes has less saturated fat and calories than a whopper or a big Mac.

Logdump, sounds like real good eats. Enjoy!

I built for comfort, not speed!

It got real silly when they started frying pickles or breaded deep fried bacon

Logdump, don't forget the fried candy bars and fried cheese.

Kaara, I am not sure where you go in Western NC, but there are many very healthy dining establishments in the NC mountains. The biggest problem I see is the portion served to one person that could easily feed 3 or 4 people, resulting in over eating leading to obesity and diabetes.

General Mills use to own Red Lobster; Red Lobster serves fried fish. Maybe General Mills regrets selling Red Lobster to Darden Restaurants.

With fries !!

you said it. I love fish cooked in any manner, but a good meal of fish and fries once in a while is great.

and fried CHEESECAKE!!

I would kill for a side of fries right now.

Gemini John: What does this comment have to do with anything being discussed here? And how is it possible that you misspelled the name of the previous President not only once but twice in one paragraph? I mean he was President for 8 years; you had to have seen his name at least a couple of times in the news, huh?

That is the catch isn't it? Fried food does taste great. The problem is moderation, as in all things, alcohol included. But the liberal midset of our culture doesn't allow for moderation. I'm not giving up fried fish becasue of stuf like this. Eat what you like in moderation and you'll be better off in the long run.

Is it some sort of cult-like mindset to be that political? This has nothing to do with political party affiliation; it's an article about health and food. No liberal group is telling you "Don't eat what you want"; just try to avoid too many fatty foods. Stop being a fanatic and inserting politics in every bloody thing!

@charlieb123

we were just discussing this earlier. Appears to be a frequently, "Good Ole Boy" Republican habit of bringing politics into random discussions having nothing to do with politics.

If it were anything other than politics, it would sound absurd and no one would take it seriously. I used to have a friend with a pantyhose fetish that used to bring women's hosiery into every discussion...but, no one thought him "insightful" or attempted to branch off his topic changes at least.

To be fair, it's usually the Good Ole Boy Republicans or the Marxists (on the left). And I mean real Marxists, the ones that call themselves that, not every random liberal that some of the Good Ole Boys call Marxists.

Raw fish? maybe, but it better be really fresh. Can't buy that in the store.

You may be close to the answer -- pasta. Another one of my favorite foods.

On Sundays, I am busy with the NY Times crossword puzzle and the one in my local paper. No time for TV or football.

51 yr old male...never had a stroke...love fried food but also love veggies. I'm not stupid...I know some of the stuff I eat is bad for me, but I DO NOT want to live forever...I'll enjoy myself...like my dad said (died of cancer at 80) "live to eat, not eat to live"