Do you think the dad speeding his pregnant wife to the hospital deserved a ticket?
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Do you think the dad speeding his pregnant wife to the hospital deserved a ticket?
Do you think the dad speeding his pregnant wife to the hospital deserved a ticket?
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In my opinion, the officer made the right decisions. He escorted them to the hospital safely but the new father does deserve a ticket. What will happen is the ticket will either be waived or the fine will be significantly reduced due to the circumstance. The most important thing is that the couple has a happy and healthy baby and that everybody is doing well!
Maybe it would be acceptable if someone was dying but while it probably was scary for them no one was dying. Besides the six minutes they were there got them very little benefit from being at the hospital.
The husband dialed 911 when the cop was behind him. He explained the situation and followed the instructions given by the 911 call responder.
Besides, how many people actually know how to deliver a baby? Do you suck the mucous out of the nose or the throat first? Do you have the tools needed to suck mucous out the baby's nose or throat? How do you deal with the umbilical cord? What if the baby's head gets caught in the umbilical cord or something else horrendous happens?
I sure as hell wouldn't know what to do except get to the hospital.
There are lots of details that we don't have:
Did the father hit 102 mph before or after he had the police tail? If 'after', then he was likely being safer due to the 'escort' & the siren/lights alerting other drivers.
What was the exact & complete conversation with the 911 operator?
How much traffic was on the roads and how well did the father moderate his speed to be less prone to an accident? Was the father keeping as much distance as he could between his car and vehicles in front of him? Was the father weaving erratically through traffic? Did the father run any stop lights or stop signs?
Americans regularly drive 70-80 mph on the highway, and with a fairly large engine, it's easy to get up to 90 mph especially if one is in even a normal hurry. The father clearly had some wits about him to call 911 and report his situation. Presumedly the father was also using some wits to try to drive as safely as he could, given his & his wife's urgency. The 911 showed proper intent; too bad he hadn't thought to call 911 as he set out on his drive --before the police observed him. But one can expect perfect reasoning in such a situation.
The ticket should be annulled.
The man dialed the phone while driving 102 mph...hmmm, add a woman in pain in the back seat and you are just asking for a disaster.
Um, seriously? What number child was this for Mother? How far apart were contractions? Did Dad call 911 before they got in car? Didn't they take any childbirth classes to give them idea what to expect? (No pun intended) I agree with octopus9498.
I'm a 27 year old guy, and I, personally, think its sad that I know a heckuva lot more about pregnancy, labor, childbirth, and parenting than most guys old enough to be my father despite the fact I do not have kids of my own yet. Any woman with enough brains would know once the contractions become regular and occur about 6 minutes apart that she needs to get to the hospital. Of course, the smart women would get to the hospital when they first start having labor pains. The doctor would then tell them for sure if the baby is on its way or not. I think its stupid for women to wait to get to the hospital until their water breaks. That's the stupidest thing they can ever do, besides driving like a maniac to get there before the baby does.
Edit: I know more about that stuff than some women, apparently, because if the woman is waiting until her water breaks to get to the hospital, that's not a good sign.
Second edit: Yes, I'm the type of guy who knows more about women than the women know about themselves. I developed these abilities during my high school years and my knowledge of these subjects has grown exponentially every year since.
Hell, I know so much about all of these subjects that even high-school-age girls turn to me for help and advice on how to handle some of the more complicated aspects of life. I was 19 when I met my current girlfriend (she was 14 at the time). Before you judge, let me just say that she was forced to live on her own at 14 because her mother was a meth addict and her father was a deadbeat, so she never had any family to take care of her. I live in Kansas City, Kansas, she lives in Fort Myers, Florida. I have yet to actually meet her in person (I'm 27 as of October 14 and she'll be 20 on January 14), but when I first met her, it was primarily to be more of a confidante, someone who would listen when she needed someone to talk to. She had a lot to deal with in life and I helped her through most of it. The relationship side of it developed on its own; neither one of us popped the question to the other. It started out as nothing more than me being somewhat of a shoulder for her to cry on, developing into a really close best friends type thing, then from there into a relationship (the relationship part itself is actually fairly recent, and by recent I mean November 2010).
Anyway, most of my dealings with high-school-age girls is nothing more than a counselor or personal advisor type deal. All I do is help them deal with the more complicated aspects of life. I'm much closer to their age, so I understand them better than their parents do, and that helps me help them. Most of these girls are too afraid to talk to their parents about these things because they don't think their parents understand, they think their parents will lecture them, they think their parents will be mad at them, and they don't want to hear "back in my day" or "when I was your age". They want someone who knows what Generation Y teenagers deal with on a daily basis and they want someone who will tell them the truth, not sweet-talk them into doing something they don't want to do.
My help is purely psychological. Never once do I do anything physical with them. I am smart enough to know when to keep my hands off, and part of that came from one of my former bosses. I worked for two years (2006 to 2008) as a personal assistant to a company president and CEO, and he mostly tasked me with being Mr. Driver for his teenage daughter, picking her up from school and taking her home or driving her to her doctor appointments or whatever when her parents were too busy to do it themselves. I had to earn his trust the hard way (and I earned enough of his trust for him to let me have unrestricted access to his house and drive his car; this kind of trust is almost impossible to earn, but for those who are lucky enough to earn it, you can only imagine how hard they had to work to earn it).
As far as what happened in 2008 that made me leave the company? Downsizing. Layoffs, and lots of them. As much as he hated to let me go, he had to. I'm still on good terms with the company and I even stop by every now and then to keep the CEO and his wife updated on what's going on in my life now. Every company I have ever worked for, I've been on good terms with the bosses even though they had to let me go for various reasons.
My secret: I know a lot about corporate standard operating procedures, I know a lot about how businesses are run and how they're supposed to be run, I know when to just keep my mouth shut and work, I always arrive on time or early and am usually the first one in and the last one out, second only to the boss, I am very loyal to the company, I am very dedicated to my work, and I actually try to benefit the company in some way. One thing that got me big kudos from my former boss (the one I talked about in the previous post) was when an employee was working in the shipping and receiving area and developed a bad case of shingles. He kept working for about 3 months with the Shingles, then decided to file for workman's comp claiming the Shingles was preventing him from doing the work (even though he had the Shingles for three months prior to that and was lifting 30lb boxes despite his pain), so I waited for him to leave for the day and told the boss about it. Once the boss confirmed it with the shipping and receiving manager, the boss got on the phone with the company lawyer and made sure that employee would not get workman's comp. That employee was also fired. My reward for that? A personal invitation to the boss' family party.
I guess I wouldn't be very understanding if this guy had gotten into an accident and killed someone in my family to get to the hospital faster for his. While not the ideal situation, babies are born in the car and at home all the time. For many millennium and in many other places, having a baby at home is the norm, not the exception. This guy was out of line.
ItGranny, the problem with millenium past, and now is that babies are MUCH larger nowadays. They represent a much larger risk nowadays.
In millenium past, the leading cause of death in women was -- childbirth.
In 1902, the rate was 1 in 100, increasing to 38 in 100 by age 30.
With modern medicine, the rate is now 10-20 in 100,000.
Unassisted childbirth is (from two studies) almost 100 times more likely to result in the death of the mother than those where competent help was available.
So, weigh the risks. What is more likely to represent a genuine risk, childbirth with no assistance OR travelling for 100 mph for a few minutes?
The husband dialed 911 when the cop was behind him.
That's the problem. He should have called before he started to drive like an idiot.
Anyone that pulls a reckless careless lawbreaking stunt like that shouldn't be having children in the first place. Now he is just replicating his ignorance and disdain for authority by making more idiots like himself.
First off, IT WAS 3 AM! IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT! Who the hell is on the road at that hour to be "other traffic"? Some stupid drunk, that might have been someone the cop should have gone after?
Second, there ARE such things as HANDS-FREE DEVICES - like Bluetooth - maybe he used one of those?
And third, I know how cops think, this one just wanted another bean in his jar, and 102 mph is a really, really, really big bean.
Just because its 3 am doesnt mean its just some drunk, and had it been some drunk he hit than him his wife and baby would have been in wreckage instead of the back of an ambulance. I work at night so do alot of people. So the the possibility of someone out there delivering your news paper or patching potholes or other job that takes place on our roads that happen at night and his/her life isnt worth threatening.
When my wife had our 1st it was after midnight when she woke in labor and i did what any smart husband/father would do and called 911.
So before you try to justify this husbands actions by saying something stupid like "Some Stupid Drunk" think about all that may have happened!
Thomas at 3am there are also wildlife out have you ever hit a deer at 55-65 mph? Now there are bigger things than deer that live in NH we have even seen bear in that area and that could take out a car and the lifes in it. Also this time of year there is SNOW and the roads are slick that is just plain STUPID! I hope the judge finds him guilty for his ticket, I have had 3 kids and I can tell you righ now that I wasn't stupid enough to hang around waiting until my water broke to have things checked out.
Not everyone experiences pain the same. As unbelievable as it is there are women who don't notice pain hardly and hence may not realize until their water breaks that they are in labor. We are told that contractions and labor hurt alot so she may have thought we got more time because if your not within a certain state of dilation or a certain point in the process physically the hospital will send you home. Or they may have had quite a few false labors episodes and they thought oh its another false labor and until her water broke they realized "oh @!$%# this is real." Or maybe the kid was showing up really early. There is no way for us to know all the details. They did what they could at the moment and we are all human and will always make mistakes and we can't know what we will do until it happens to the rest of us. So shudup about what they should have done and be thankful that everything worked out in the end. Cause the best laid plans never dictates what actually happens.
Thomas at 3am there are also wildlife out have you ever hit a deer at 55-65 mph?
No, I stepped on the brakes and brought my truck down from 60 to 40 before I hit the deer. It's called paying attention to your surroundings. And he was on a freeway in what I understand to be a somewhat well-developed area. The possibility of deer on the road was greatly reduced versus driving a two-lane back-country road.
Birth is a natural part of life. Assuming no problems, they could have done it themselves. I worked on an ambulance for 3 years. Whenever we took a woman who was about to give birth to the hospital, we didn't go with lights and sirens. Also, someone above said they could have called 911 and got an ambulance which I agree with. I think the ticket is deserved. What good what it have done them if he had hit someone doing 102 miles an hour and killed 2 people in the other car and his wife and unborn child? I think he'd feel real bad if that had happened.
You hit the nail right on the head....What an idiot , he deserved the ticket. The only thing he could ask for is a reduce fine.
Had the guy pulled me over, I would've asked him to escort me to the hospital and then write me a ticket. The trooper did the reasonable thing.
My Second and third child were born with medical complications the cords wrapped around their necks. If they were born in a car or ambulance they would not be here. The only thing that saved was an experiencednurse that had 30+ years birthing babies. Ambulances are fine but as you can read from octopus9498 they consider normal and do not take in to consideration the woman's and child's safety. How many woman and children die due to people not paying attention. He might have stupid driving at that speed but he did for his family. No matter how it turns out it better he cared then saying screw it and called for an ambulance to appear in twenty to thirty mins. remember child birth is natural and not an emergency.
While what octopus9498 stated is true, it was taken out of context. Emergency medical workers tend to have a different perspective of what a "true" emergency is. While we don't know the details of the delivery I can assure you that the safest thing for that man to do for all parties involved would be to call for an ambulance. For the most part child birth is a normal and uncomplicated process. However as you have found out personally that there can be major life threatening complications that would change a normal "emergent" transport to an all out "emergency lights and sirens" transport. Paramedics are trained to deliver babies in the field, how to recognize complications and intervene to keep both mom and baby alive (for example: taking pressure off the umbilical cord or unwrapping a cord from around a babies head or applying pressure to help deliver a frank breech baby). These are the exact reasons to call on your EMS. We are able to keep a cool head in stressful situations in the lives of others with due regard for the safety of others.
With the baby coming that quickly you can't count on getting the ambulance there quick enough. Recently there was a story of the baby being born in the car - they called for an ambulance and by the time the EMTs got there the baby had died. I admit that 102 miles an hour can be dangerous, but when it comes to saving a baby's life, you react and try to get there as soon as you can.
102 mph was not only dangerous for him, his wife, and the unborn child it was a risk for the public as well. How would the story have turned out if he had hit another vehicle with a family and ended up not only killing his family, but members of another family. Medics are trained to deliver babies and deal with complications AND drive with lights and sirens at a high rate of speed should it be necessary. This man had nothing to warn other people that he had an emergency, instead he put everyone in danger by not making one simple call.
For those that say he was justified because the baby came 6 minutes after he arrived, what if it had come while he was still enroute to the ER. Now, instead of a home environment or ambulance the baby now will be delivered by someone trying to take instructions over the phone, hoping for no complications, on the side of a road in a very unclean and small environment.
911 was created for situations like this so persons trained in dealing with these situations can get people to the hospital safely WITH treatment enroute.
Some woman can confuse the labor pain with heartburn and such. EMT can and have taken up to 20 mins to get there. We also forget to read this was up north in the snow. If she was not close to her due date they could have had concerns about the wifes and child safety. 911 was designed for this but unless I read the news wrong the have been far too many times 911 has done the wrong thing. I do not know the town this happen or the history. If the town is one where the cut back public services then he may not have had faith in the system. The article does leave a lot out.
If they were born in a car or ambulance they would not be here.
Not true. Paramedics are trained on how to protect both baby and mother in case of complications like you had. Also, in cases like yours, an ambulance definitely would have transported with lights and sirens. The situations octopus9498 was talking about would have to be normal births without any such problems.
What the article doesn't mention is that this was 3:30 AM & there was no traffic on the highway. The posted speed limit is 65 - but normal speed is 75 - 80. The cop is a jerk for giving the ticket & the guy is going to fight it in court. My guess is that the cop won't show for the court date & it will be dismissed...especially since this story has gone national and they are receiving so much publicity! Yeah LONDONDERRY is on the map!
lol, I want to know why the cop didnt write himself a ticket? He became the escort did he then slow down the speed of travel? Did he nearly cause the woman to have the baby in her car? They made it by 6 min. thats cutting it close. I realize birth is natural and doctors aren't "needed" but there can be and often are complications. 102 MPH is not necessarily a deadly speed. All conditions and circumstances must be taken into account to deem this a dangerous speed.
Agree totally with Guito and OilBaron. 102 is only fast in the United States. I sure don't want to deliver a baby and he didn't either. Good luck on getting an ambulance anywhere fast. The husband did the right thing - he got to a medical facility fast. Just in time in fact. The cop was a total bag. I love the way some of you use "assumptions" to make your case. Assumptions don't hold water.
Um. Is no one going to mention that they could've left for the hospital earlier? They probably didn't want to miss the latest episode of something or other and left it a little too late. Too bad he got a ticket but the cop was right. 102 is excessive in the U.S. Could've caused an accident. I have a cousin who was born in the car and he turned out just fine!
Sometimes, leaving early doesn't matter. I knew with my 3rd one (2nd one was 2 hours start to finish) I was in labor. After 4 hours, they sent me home, saying it wasn't going to be anytime soon. Went home, went to sleep. Woke up in active labor. 7 miles from the hospital, and yes, we got a police escort. She was born shortly after we got to the hospital (we needed the escort due to an art fair that was closing streets - cop got us through).
Good luck on getting an ambulance anywhere fast.
I don't know about the area where this happened, but in the area where I live, the local EMS agency has a 7 minute average response time. While that may seem like an eternity if you're the one waiting, in reality it actually is pretty fast.
What the article doesn't mention is that this was 3:30 AM & there was no traffic on the highway.
And that would have prevented a rollover or crash into something on the side of the road, how???
This whole article leaves a lot of questions about the circumstances and the small details of the story. Such as......
Would an ambulance have arrived on time?
What were the circumstance at home with the to-be mother?
Was there a remote possibly of birth complications related to the to-be mother's medical history?
What were the road conditions and traffic?
What was the total driving time and mileage?
The total account of the to-be father's driving from start to finish?
What was the discussion between 911 and the officer?
on and on.......
It seems the article was purposely written to produce discussions and arguments.
On the positive side, the mother and the baby seem to be healthy, THAT IS WHAT COUNTS!
Have to vote both ways....baby was coming and he did what he had to do, but there was a consequence for his choice. I applaud the troop for taking the lead and escorting them. I've seen and heard of other situations that people are stopped regardless of the situations and some end badly. So he’s a big boy, deal with the fine/fight it and move on with life.....congrats on the baby! He had to be freaking out...my wife gets crazy when I go above 100mph regardless, let alone pushing out a kid, and making a phone call!
He "did what he to do" and provided a danger to everyone else on the road. Not excusable.
On the other hand, the cop could've just as easily written the fool a ticket at the hospital.
On the other hand, the cop could've just as easily written the fool a ticket at the hospital.
He did, that's what all the anti-cop types are griping about.
I'm kind of surprised at how many people are quick to defend the guy who drove 102mph. Don't get me wrong - I'm not heartless. I'm happy to hear that family & baby are doing well and once the circumstances are explained to a judge I'm sure s/he'd reduce the fine in this instance.
That said, it still doesn't excuse his recklessness, nor does the above comment that it was "3.30am and the posted speed limit is 65 - but normal speed is 75 - 80". Yes, maybe in the afternoon the flow of traffic will move that fast, but it still doesn't mean they're not breaking the law. And if you don't believe that, find someone who was traveling "with the flow of traffic" and was busted by a cop for doing 80 - just like the rest of traffic, but maybe in the front or tail end of it. TRUST ME, this has happened to me. And "flow of traffic"? Not a defense.
It's news on a slow news day, that's all. The baby was fine, mom was fine, and dad's first gift to the new baby is a court fine. I prefer this outcome to the alternative in which any member of that family or the general public could have been hurt, or worse, killed.
If you people are such sticklers for the law why arent you burning down the whitehouse?
We are involved in two illegal criminally funded wars.
Our gov. has reimbursed foriegn and domestic banks to the tune of almost $3 trillion after they robbed and plundered our citizens.
Our gov. Gave Angelo Mozzillo a fine of about $64 million for robbing americans of more than $170+ mill.
I could go on endlessly for hours.....And you are more worried about a new father getting a speeding ticket while trying to make sure his baby was delivered properly by a medical proffessional?
Thats exactly why hazard lights were invented. When I was in 7-8th grade I was visciously attacked by an Akita it ripped my throat out tor half my ear off and chewed my arms to pieces. there was no time to call 9/11 My Dad picked me up and ran to the truck turned his hazard lights on and flew to the hospital no stops what-so-ever I almost died....I bet you would advocate he got a speeding ticket too.
This country is getting more f-ed up by the day.
How long was she in labor before they decided to head for the hospital?
@guito - Somehow I think "illegal wars" and Akitas attacking you don't have much to do with the article.
No wonder you're so irritated, can't quite figure out what to be irritated at!
By the way, "whitehouse" is actually "White House". A proper noun with made up of two words.
And now you know! And knowing is half the battle! GI JOOOOE!
Thats exactly why hazard lights were invented.
No, they were invented so someone wouldn't hit your car while it's sitting on the side of the road because they didn't see it. That's actually why lights and sirens were invented.
It's kind of odd to me that they just had a healthy baby delivered and are worried about a speeding ticket that legally was deserved. Yeah, it would've been nice to get a "warning", but it is what it is....Pick a different battle and enjoy the new baby!
Just one more reason to loathe those uncaring cops. 10 bucks says the cop would have sped to the hospital if it was his wife, but that's ok since cops don't have to observe the laws they're suppose to enforce. What a piece of motherphucking sh!t. How big of an azzhole does one have to be to become a cop?
Dated a cop once. He enjoyed using lights etc to get down the road a bit faster.
This guy could have skipped the ticket (Baby present) especially since it came so quickly.
My first took forever my 2nd I barely made it to the hospital. You just can't rely on the little darlings.
Lexi- I really hate when cops turn on their lights, you pull over, and they go around you through the stop sign and turn their lights off. Abuse of power. Or how about the fact that if you belong to a cops family and are caught speeding you only get a warning. Absolutely corrupt.
10 bucks says the cop would have sped to the hospital if it was his wife
No, a cop would have been smart enough to call an ambulance and let people trained to deal with situations like this handle it.
I am offended by your ignorant comments...I obey the law eventhough I wear a badge. I do NOT give special treatment, nor do I GET special treatment. The most important part of being a police officer is keeping the public safe...he did his job!!!
Exactly! He had to do what had to be done. When your at that moment clearly first response is to get there as quickly as possible. So, what do cops to when there off duty and there is an emergency with there family..Ya, Exactly... HMMMMM!
There are no excuses. A car traveling at over 100 mph is very dangerous. The man is lucky that he has only received a ticket.
Gasoline is a highyl combustible material just driving around with a tankfull of it is more dangerous than going 100mph. Life is dangerous some make it a long ways some dont. If e outlaw everything that is dangerous or try to impose a fine on it you would bankrupt the world and who exactly are you paying?
Citizen- pays taxes-supposedly to protect citizen.
Society- has laws and fines as punishment for breaking laws- supposedly to protect society.
Fines- used to fund everything needed to uphold laws and protect society and citizens. essentially then citizens pay fines to protect themselves and society from...whatever.
One citizen decides he doesnt need protection.. should he then not be required to pay fine?
If driving a tankful of combustible gas is so dangerous, why don't we hear more about the spontaneous combustion of cars racing down the highway? You seriously think that driving 100 mph is going to make the gas in your tank ignite?? :)
I can honestly say it's very possible to drive hundreds of miles at speeds well in excess of 100mph without any danger whatsoever of spontaneous combustion.
This is only based upon experience. Your mileage may vary.
One citizen decides he doesnt need protection.. should he then not be required to pay fine?
The fine isn't just to protect him, but whoever he might hit at 102 miles per hour, and the unborn child who had no say in the matter.
Shoulda planned for the birth accordingly.
Yes, he also should punish his newborn baby for causing him to speed an get a ticket...stupid baby.
Yea, because babies always give you plenty of time to get to the hospital???
Wow a whole speeding ticket and all you people have nothing better to say than the police are bad. Suck it up, he deserved a ticket, the speed was excessive, noone was dying (notice i said dying, and dying would be a reasonable reason to speed excessively). So he pays a fine for breaking "the law", he moves on and has a story to tell his newborn somewhere down the road.
No one died, fortunately... was dying...could be debated. Many complications arise from pregnancy and could have possibly killed the mother and baby. Hindsight tells us nothing happened no big deal but in the moment anything is possible and not one of those people knew the condition of the mother the baby or the pregnancy. Natural instincts kick in survival of the fittest the natural response to protect your child from any harm. My opinion is that man had every right to do anything in his power to protect his child from harm even if for some unknown, wacky, unfathomable reason he had to shoot that cop in the face. If he felt at that time such actions were necessary to protect his child...all bets are off.
My opinion is that man had every right to do anything in his power to protect his child from harm even if for some unknown, wacky, unfathomable reason he had to shoot that cop in the face.
I couldn't disagree more. His bad choices should never cost someone their life, especially when it can be avoided. Ignorance is no excuse. He could have called 911 and got an ambulance if he thought it was so serious. Didn't seem to care about putting the child (or anyone else) in danger as he broke 100mph
If he felt at that time such actions were necessary to protect his child...all bets are off.
If it was unfounded and just due to his ignorance then it isn't a good excuse for murdering someone
I had a similar experience with our second child. We had moved 55 miles away from the hospital during the pregnancy, and my water broke in the early hours of the morning. We headed into town doing about 80 in a 55 when we passed two police cars going the other way. I told my husband that I expected them to take me in the police car and tell him to travel at the speed limit, but at first they let us go, telling us to drive more slowly. Then they stopped us again and said "Wait a minute, her water broke??" That's when we got a police escort, which was pretty cool when they would stop traffic and let us go through the red lights. We arrived at the hospital in plenty of time, baby wasn't born for several hours after! This was 27 years ago in Alaska, and it makes a good story to this day.
I applaud the man! I am pregnant now and I know I would want my husband to do anything humanly possible to get me to the hospital. I really don't think he deserved a ticket. Emotions run high during child birth and he did what he did to ensure the safety of his wife and baby. Way to go!!!
He should have called 911 and got an ambulance. Just because "emotions run high during birth" doesn't give him the right to put other motorists lives at risk. Obviously "ensuring the safety of his wife and baby" was not being thought of as he went over 100mph and certainly didn't care about the safety of others on the road.
Emotions run high during child birth and he did what he did to ensure the safety of his wife and baby.
He didn't ensure their safety, he put it at risk. He just got lucky that the risk didn't come to fruition.
I wouldn't get into a car (I dont care if my water had broke) while my husbands emotions were running high enough to drive 102 in the winter where it SNOWS, I am sorry but that is stupid a little bit of black ice and you are toast!
When my water broke with my second child, my husband was so freaked out I wouldn't let him drive. I drove us to the hospital! We only lived about ten miles away and I am one of those people that stay in labor forever. I was in some pain but I didn't want him going crazy and wrecking us! I did speed but not 102.
All you idiots saying it was OK would be the first in line to sue him if he killed one of your loved ones. Think it through before you type it out next time.
I've had a child, and know that emotions run high on the trip to the hospital. That being said, there is a Spanish proverb that says, "Take what you want and pay for it, says God." The guy took what he wanted (a quick trip to the hospital), and now it's time to pay. It sounds like the police officer was extremely understanding as well in not handing out the ticket until the baby was born and everything was OK. The father needs to suck it up, buttercup, and pay up, not waste tax dollars fighting the silly ticket (not to mention his own time, which is in short supply when you have a newborn at home).
There is a consequence for every action, and emotional stress is not an excuse for later not wanting to deal with the consequence.
I know I voted in opposition of the person doing 102mph, but that's only because 99.99% of people cannot handle speeds above 55mph very well. Me? I have racing experience, and so can handle speeds up to 120mph down the interstate or 60mph down city streets (not that I ever really go that fast, but I have had training on how to handle those kind of speeds). Most people buy a 425hp hotrod then quickly find out they can't handle all 425 horses. I drive a 150hp putt-putt car, but I can handle it and drive it better than most people can drive a 255hp Nissan Maxima (one example is I can make a right turn into a gap in traffic that most other drivers would hesitate to even try to make even though their car has more than twice the horsepower and torque that mine does).
Your the guy that slows the traffic flow, I've been looking for you. I do agree with you about the average driver they suck. Does anyone out there even know that when you make a turn you are supposed to stay in the immediate lane....this means don't cross over lanes, once you have made your turn put your turn signal on and change to the lane you want/need to be in. Also if there is a red and white sign that says "YEILD" don't try to merge, there is a reason for the yeild sign, probably no where for thru traffic to go. I could go on and on and I am sorry to get off track but the average drive is just stupid.
I don't slow the traffic flow. My 150hp 165lbs/ft putt-putt car can still accelerate from 0-60 in 7.62 seconds, with a governor-limited top speed of 120 miles per hour, so it is plenty fast enough to keep up with traffic on the highway.
Anyway, yield actually means you do not have right of way. It means proceed only if it is safe to do so, but come to a complete stop if it is not safe to proceed. Right turns on red? Again, you do not have right-of-way, so on-coming traffic or traffic turning left in front of you has right-of-way and you are to wait your turn. You can only proceed if it is safe to do so. The law in most states for turning right on red is "All vehicular traffic must come to a complete stop and remain stationary for not less than 5 seconds before proceeding into the intersection."
Also, HEY IDIOT! YOU'RE DRIVING AN AUTOMOBILE, NOT A PHONE BOOTH! HANG UP AND DRIVE!
and, HEY IDIOT! YOU'RE DRIVING AN AUTOMOBILE, NOT A BEAUTY SALON! PUT YOUR BRA AND MAKEUP ON BEFORE YOU LEAVE!
The officer could point out that, not only was the guy driving at 102 mph -- he was using his cellphone (to call 911) at the same time!
That's the part that bothers me. I am a race driver with training to drive at 120mph, and at the 102mph speeds the person in the story was driving...That alone takes split-second decisions, lightning-fast reaction time, the patience of a saint, and nerves of steel. It is not something that people without racing experience should attempt. You'd be stupid to attempt speeds higher than 80mph if you don't have racing experience, and if I was a cop, I'd charge anyone with Reckless Endangerment, Inattentive Driving, Assault With A Deadly Weapon, Conspiracy To Commit Assault With A Deadly Weapon, Conspiracy To Commit Murder, and Armed Criminal Action if I caught them doing more than 80mph while they're on their cell phones. Harsh, I know, but they better be glad I stopped them before it turned into First Degree Vehicular Homicide. The latter would be permanent revocation of your license and possibly life in prison with no chance of parole while the former would be a minimum of 6 years in prison, a $100,000 fine, and mandatory driver's education.
And yes, I could nail you with a conspiracy charge, because all I would need to do for the conspiracy charge is prove that you had the intent to commit vehicular homicide. Picking up your cell phone while driving more than 80mph is enough for me as a cop to hit you with the conspiracy charge, because you know full well the dangers of driving 80mph, you know how dangerous talking on the cell phone while driving is, and yet you chose to do both at the same time, so by intentionally choosing to do both at the same time, that gives me as a cop full legal support to hit you with those conspiracy charges.
I know the lot of you don't much trust us racers, but heed my advice, as it is a lesson I learned the hard way: DO NOT, AND I REPEAT, DO NOT do anything that you would not want your insurance company to know about, because they do read the police reports. Every ticket you get is reported to the Department of Motor Vehicles, which then forwards the information to your insurance company. 54 in a 35...For some insurance companies, that will result in little more than you getting a $500 deductible. 102mph in a 35, however, and they will drop you altogether, mark you as uninsurable, and from that point on, you will not be able to purchase auto insurance from anyone. Some states only monitor your driving record for the past three years. Others look at the past five years. Some look even farther back than that. And all those cameras you see along the highway or at every major intersection? Yes, that is Big Brother watching you. If you have nothing to hide and you obey the law, you have nothing to worry about. Drive like a madman, however, and you'll get Big Brother breathing down your neck. You've been warned........
but can you make those charges stick? I know from personal experience half of the charges will be either thrown or or downgraded. No I was not the criminal but the witness to the crime. The charges were downgraded prior to me coming to court.
Wolften - He can't make anything but his keyboard stick. Have you read all his ridiculous posts? He thinks he is Dr. Phil, the D.A., a State Trooper, Oprah, on the supreme court, a midwife and Dale Jr. all rolled into one. He needs to put the crack pipe down!
Maybe it was a safe (and in most places legal), hands-free cel phone call.
Duh.
NCGirl1, a typical police officer has to be all those things and more. There is a LOT more to police work than just writing tickets and throwing people in jail. Police officers have to be Dr. Phil, Dale Jr., Oprah, a midwife, a protector, a drill sergeant, a martial artist, an expert marksman, a hunter, a diver, a saint, and a babysitter, often all during the same shift. Before you go bashing true multitaskers like myself, come ride with us and see what we do every day and then you will understand why we have to be this way.
I highly advise people to ride along with a police officer and/or watch TruTV's World's Wildest Police Videos. Sheriff John Bennel is the narrator of that show, and that show's sole purpose is to educate you, the viewer, so you don't become a crime victim yourself. You will see the harsh, brutal reality of police work. You will see the things our men and women in uniform deal with every day. You will learn why their lives are a real life Mission: Impossible. There are no scripts. There are no second takes. There are no instant replays. This isn't reality, its actuality. Welcome to Real Life. Welcome to the world of a police officer.
We work our asses off to keep your families and your property safe. We work our asses off to make sure you can go about your daily routines and not encounter criminals on the street. We work our asses off to make sure your tax dollars go to putting the bad guys in prison and these military-spec weapons back in military armories where they belong. When you screw us over by demanding lower taxes, that makes it hard for us to purchase cars, guns, body armor, and whatever else we need to deal with these felons and put them and their guns where they belong. We do all of this for you, and you thank us by screwing us over with lower taxes and being armchair generals? Maybe all of us cops should just up and quit and let you civilians deal with the criminals yourselves. How would you like that? If you wouldn't like it, then stop trying to do our jobs for us.
Note to any of you who even so much as THINK of bashing a cop: We deal with the worst of the worst in society. We deal with all the burglars, wife-beaters, rapists, druggies, drunks, and whatever other trash society throws our way. You, as civilians, never see us having to fight for our lives against a hardened felon on parole who won't hesitate to kill another cop and add another felony to his record. You never see us having to chase down a guy who just beat his wife and raped his daughter. You never see all the work we do to keep your property safe. You never see all the work we do to keep sexual predators away from your kids. Most of that is intentional. We don't want you to see it, because if you had to live through it like we did, vigilante "street justice" and revenge killings would take over and that would only make things worse.
For all those who live in America and have access to TruTV, watch TruTV's World's Wildest Police Videos. That show is 100% real, is unscripted, and tells the cold, hard truth about police work. In that show, you see the things us cops deal with every day. There are no replays. There are no scripts. There are no second takes. This isn't reality, its actuality. Our lives are a real life Mission: Impossible. Everything you see is real, all the way down to a burglar shooting a store clerk in cold blood. Welcome to real life. Welcome to the world of a police officer.
Here is a list of videos to watch that shows the harsh reality of police work:
http://www.trutv.com/video/most-daring/wild-ride.html
http://www.trutv.com/video/most-daring/shooting-first-questions-later.html
http://www.trutv.com/video/most-daring/under-eighteen-and-life.html
http://www.trutv.com/video/most-daring/wacko-with-a-warrant.html
http://www.trutv.com/video/most-daring/a-bad-place-to-stall.html
http://www.trutv.com/video/most-daring/lady-in-the-water.html
http://www.trutv.com/video/most-daring/smashing-through-the-snow.html
http://www.trutv.com/video/most-daring/lady-gunslinger.html
These videos are just a fraction of the things cops deal with every single day. Watch, listen, learn. Have a nice day, and thank a cop next time you see one, because you never know if the next house he'll be saving is yours.
If you were a cop you would know you cant charge a lone person driving a car with conspiracy of anything. To be in a conspiracy you need 2 or more people involved.
mnaines - "Mulitasker....LMAO!!! Save your nonsense!!! My brother and first cousins are both State Troopers. My mother is a D.A., my brother-in-law is a Paramedic and my sister-in-law has a Bachelor's Degree in Nursing.
I thought your posts were so hysterical that I coppied and pasted them into a word document and emailed it to them for their laugh of the day!!! They all called me laughing their a$$ses off!!! They all did mention however that you may want to seek some serious help!!
This is no BS. Everything I said is true! Don't you wish you could say the same?
Guito7399 - Trust me this guy is no more a cop than I am!!!! As you noticed his posts proved his ignorance repeatedly! You and I know more on the subject than he does! I hate glory whores trying to pass as something they aren't.
first I said can he make the charges stick. Tech. speaking you can be charged with anything but if you follow the courts and pay attention to the judges because you can be charge with something does not mean you should. Second cops are law enforcers... not all the other things. Those are all separate things other people have chosen to do. Once you put on the uniform of a local, state or federal cop you have to enforce the law. Not only to the letter but the spirit. This cop was right in giving the speeding ticket and could have given him one for being reckless but the questions I have asked earlier still have not been answered
1. How far away for the hospital were they?
2.Is this a small town?
3. Is a main road or a back road?
So if that means the cop has to think to the spirit of the law so be it. I was and will not bash cops. I respect the uniform. I do not respect the ones the wear to flaunt their power and abuse it. I have watched a many of the shows you posted and do watch Worlds wildest police chase and cops. I also realize that sometimes cops makes mistakes and this one on how it was handled might be one.
Police officers have to be ... Dale Jr....
I'd rather that police officers be Michael Schumacher. At least, he knows how to drive. And make right turns, too.
Side note: Let the redneck ire begin. Banjo solo - der ner, ner, ner, ner, ner, ner, ner.
Wolften Londonderry to Manchester is about 10-15 miles, depending on where they were headed if they took I-93 that only gave them about 7 miles on an interstate.
7 miles on an interstate means I could go 100+ for at least 6.75 miles, even if I missed a shift. I'd mainly brake on the offramp.
In a "normal car", you could probably do it for at least 6 if not 6.5 miles...
So he could have been there in a few minutes........ At that speed he had to really worried about his wife.
Yep. Less than stellar judgment - albeit in the heat of the moment. He deserves the ticket, the judge should read him the Riot Act and then waive the fine, subject to receiving no moving violations within the next year. Get popped for speeding, welcome back hefty fine.
Place the guy in West Texas on a clear night with a full moon, and we'd all be asking why the guy wasn't going faster.
next issue? :)
By my calculations if he were to drive a more prudent 75 mph unless they were more than 20.25 miles away they would still have made it in time without endangering the other "slow" motorist on the road. Or maybe they could have left sooner. Or maybe just call 911. I don't know but 102 sounds a bit excessive. Glad to read that everyone's OK.
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Ive been in the same situation. If the cop hadn't escorted us through 3 stop lights I would have had my daughter in the car. No tick for us