You're right, Kelly.

What amazes me is how many otherwise intelligent, rational people that think that there is some giant conspiracy involving thousands of scientists, the CDC, the American Academy of Pediatrics, NIH, Big Pharma, and who knows what else -- all conspiring to hide the "truth" that vaccines cause autism.

Come on, folks. You're smarter than that. Dozens of carefully designed studies have shown that vaccines do NOT cause autism. While an individual scientist *cough* Wakefield *cough* might do something dishonest to further his own financial interests, how likely is it that THOUSANDS of doctors and scientists (many of whom have absolutely no connection to Big Pharma at all) are all conspiring to do something like that?

Well, the attitude within the medical community is that we vaccinate the herd, and if some people are harmed, so be it, the benefit of the masses outweighs the loss of the isolated life.Trust me, the medical community definitely acknowledges that some people react poorly to vaccines...we see it in the hospital setting. Perhaps this is more meaningful if you are the one whose life has been negatively impacted.

What would people gain from covering up any link to autism? I know for a fact that these companies aren't making the big bucks off these vaccines, in fact I bet they are just breaking even, so money isn't the reason. I hear all those commericals about the odds of being autisitc are 1/150. Thats a 0.67% chance, and included in those numbers are conditions that not too long ago would not have been called autism. So if almost everyone gets vaccinated, yet only 0.67% of kids get autism, where is the link? These people who still believe that this guy was looking out for them and is some sort of martyr and victim of the "man" are retarded.

99.99% chance of not dying of measles. And that was before the vaccine was used.

100% chance of not dying from autism. 100%>99.99%. So I guess you'd rather have your kid potentially get sick, and them potentially make other kids sick and potentially die from a preventable disease, all because some fraud says it might cause autism? The vaccine doesn't cause autism, as has been definitively proven. Continuing to deny facts in the face of overwhelming evidence is, as I stated earlier, retarded.

The vaccine doesn't cause autism, as has been definitively proven. Continuing to deny facts in the face of overwhelming evidence is, as I stated earlier, retarded.

Family to Receive $1.5M+ in First-Ever Vaccine-Autism Court Award

Hannah was described as normal, happy and precocious in her first 18 months.

Then, in July 2000, she was vaccinated against nine diseases in one doctor's visit: measles, mumps, rubella, polio, varicella, diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, and Haemophilus influenzae.

Afterward, her health declined rapidly. She developed high fevers, stopped eating, didn't respond when spoken to, began showing signs of autism, and began having screaming fits. In 2002, Hannah's parents filed an autism claim in federal vaccine court. Five years later, the government settled the case before trial and had it sealed. It's taken more than two years for both sides to agree on how much Hannah will be compensated for her injuries.

It should also occur to you that many non-vaccinators, and most I know, did not make a decision based on Andrew Wakefield or Jenny McCarthy.

Robert - if you read your little article there, you can see there are many things this child was vaccinated against. Showing SIGNS of autism is different than being diagnosed first of all..second, there were many factors in play. All of the vaccines, the child, genetics, and the environment all play into someone having a disease.

Also, Hannah's parents probably received the settlement because it was probably cheaper than going through the entire trial process and hiring people for expert testimonies, not including the court fees, lawyers, etc. MANY companies settle claims without verifying facts to save money.

And your non-vaccinating friends if their children don't get diseases should be considered lucky, because now the risks of not doing something, or even becoming a carrier and screwing up someone else's child is very great.

All I am saying is you should look at all sides before you start telling other people they are wrong. And personally, anyone who listens to Jenny McCarthy should have their head examined. She isn't someone I would ever look to for intelligent decisions. And Andrew Wakefield, when his former study partners go against you, that's saying something. Think about that too.

Kelly:

Also, Hannah's parents probably received the settlement because it was probably cheaper than going through the entire trial process and hiring people for expert testimonies, not including the court fees, lawyers, etc.

Nice of you to speculate there, Kelly, but do you have any evidence of this? Or did you just make up your mind?

And your non-vaccinating friends if their children don't get diseases should be considered lucky, because now the risks of not doing something, or even becoming a carrier and screwing up someone else's child is very great.

No. No. No, it's not. Try again. And I'm not concerned with actually "getting disease". Death and disability would be more of a concern. You should be happy for me and other non-vaccinators that the chance of dying from measles is very very very tiny. And it was so, even before vaccination. You should do some data research for yourself instead of just believing spoonfed fearmongering conclusions.

And Andrew Wakefield, when his former study partners go against you, that's saying something. Think about that too.

Now I know that you don't quite understand what you're dealing with. Tell me exactly how his former partners "go against" him. What have they publicly said about the matter specifically?

What have the 12 parents said? Do you know what their stance is?

Yes. I believe that Dr.Wakefield's study has been misrepresented and discredited by big pharma money, and medical "groupthink."

Kelly:

Also, Hannah's parents probably received the settlement because it was probably cheaper than going through the entire trial process and hiring people for expert testimonies, not including the court fees, lawyers, etc.

Nice of you to speculate there, Kelly, but do you have any evidence of this? Or did you just make up your mind?

Are you asking her to speculate on whether or not it's cheaper for a company to settle a lawsuit rather than fight it out in court? Because if you are, you're an idiot. Unless you've been chained up in your parents basement all your life you'd know that most large companies choose to settle vice having their day in court. It's not because of the money factor. Most of these companies have lawyers working for them full-time so they are not concerned about having to pay one just for this suit. Companies settle lawsuits for a single reason, the confidentiality agreement they make people sign in exchange for the money, barring them from being able to jump onto the news and bad mouth that company. That's cheap compared to what it would cost the company in lost revenue when scared people stop buying their product.

Well said. I know first hand the truth about vaccines. I went into a coma for three days within hours after getting the polio vaccine in the late 60's.

My third daughter nearly died withing 3 hours of getting the MMR combo shot in 2000 and visible signs of Urticaria Pigmentosa(Just one of the possible side effects of the vaccine) shows how severe it was for her. There are other developmental issues she suffered/suffers from the vaccine. So yes, the MMR vaccine does cause Autism.

The truth about vaccines should not be denied or limited to what the CDC or the mainstream medical industry wants the people to know.