The spin on the title of this article is misleading and insulting. Do the children in this study have 2 working parents and/or have only a single mother who also works? Do they have a stay-at-home or part-time-employed father? If the weight gain is tied to an issue of not having a stay-at-home *parent*, the article should say so and not exclusively implicate mothers in a 2-parent household. As the article is written, I can't tell what the home situation of these children is, which suggests that the person who wrote the article (possibly the researchers as well, though I've seen may too many instances of poor science journalism to assume the problem is with the researchers) found everything other than the working mom to be irrelevant. Moreover, the title undermines the actual conclusion: children of working mothers are no more likely to be unhealthy or obese. Why was "Children of Working Moms Doing Just Fine" not the title?
MSNBC: This article is sloppy at best, sexist at worst. You need to do better.
I agree. Calling attention to "putting on pounds" makes it seem like there is a health risk, when it says in the article that there is not. Maybe kids of working moms have more food available? Or, maybe they tend to eat more "convenience food" that is more processed and has higher carbs and less protein/veggies? You just can't know from this article. It hypes up fear of fat needlessly. I suppose it guarantees more readers that way; moms are trained to be guilty, so if it says, Hey, Working Moms Doing a Great Job, no-one will waste time reading it.
To the point of both parents working and someone else supervising the kids or the kids taking care of themselves, one thing I will say is that there are many things that others (including my parents who watched my children) would say yes to that me or my husband would not. Such as over-snacking or over-treating. Sitters and grandparents in my case especially, have the tendency to "thats ok" much more than my husband and I will. I have not a problem at all saying "lets eat a little less" or "you waited too late to have that now". So in that regard I will say I agree.
Also my neighbor and I were good examples of parents who care on weight. While her mother worked, she ALSO kept sodas and chips and snack cakes stocked up along with the good foods. What is a child going to choose if given the choice? They cant eat what you dont give them access too, you know? In my house soda was a precious rarity...i did have every flavor of koolaid known to man but we all wanted water anyway.
It wasnt the fact that her mom wasnt there as much as she didnt make eating well mandatory while she was gone. My mother worked too. We rarely had fast food or junk, four kids made short work of that, but there was always, aaaaaaalways, fruit,veggies and sandwich makings and homemade popcorn. That girl is now extraordinarily large. I used to think she had the cooler parents because of her ability to drink sodas and eat all the goodies nonstop. Thanks mom. :-)
I agree. Insulting and outright bull$**t. I work outside the home. And if my children are heavier due to my not being home with them all day...I'd hate to see how skinny they would be if I stayed home.
My mother worked her entire life. I am a normal, healthy weight. My doctor said so.
And why the hell is it always the MOM's fault, hmmm? My husband works. Yet he's absolved of complicity in the health matters of our children?
I agree with SmallTown-3021293. This article is misleading at best and does nothing to provide education on what is really the culprit of childhood obesity. What are the circumstances of the working mothers? Who is watching and providing the care of their children? And really, what food is readily available? No matter if the mother works - children should get a well balanced diet and not processed or pre-packaged foods. Yet this is what is readily available to all and not just working mothers.
I was wondering the same thing. I work (more than) full-time, but my husband is a dedicated, stay-at-home Dad. I kept re-reading the article, trying to figure out if they'd taken that scenario into consideration.
It personally offends me that YOU immediately decide that this article is deriding working mothers. It says that it is a scientific fact that children of working mothers have higher BMI. It also says that they are not of porer health. It doesn't say "get back in the kitchen and make something wholesome a la 1950", that is a conclusion you decided the author was making.
I find it interesting that children of working mothers have higher BMIs but I am very happy that the study found that there weren't any ill health effects to those children. It would be interesting to find out why this is the case and, as clearly stated in the body of the article, there is ongoing research to find out why this is the case. Childhood obesity is a pandemic in this country and I applaud the efforts of this research to try and better understand what is causing it. I think it is very irresponsible to immediately condemn the research because you don't like the findings.
I'm a stay at home mom and this article is completely unfair, unwarranted, and complete BS! Okay, so i think we can all agree that a SAHM would have more time to put into meals everyday, but that doesn't mean that they serve well-rounded healthy meals anymore than working women! If anything, I would say that I'm probably a little bit worse because I do have the time so I tend to do more with baking and desserts.
I am going to repeat what SmallTown said: MSNBC you need to do better!
Agreed. The article stated "Children's physical activity, time spent unsupervised and time spent watching TV" didn't seem to be a factor. Uh, what about diet?
My first thought on this is that when you have a single working parent or a two income family, there's probably an increased likelihood of relying on take-out and convenience foods just because cooking from scratch every night (as I normally do) takes a bit more advanced planning when both parents work.
This article doesn't really mean crap to me until they're taking diet into consideration.
Did you even bother to read the article...? It was talking about mothers who worked...outside the home...away from their children. Not stay at home mothers, who, while your job is demanding, your technically no working outside the home.
The fact that the article discusses mothers who work outside the home does not preclude SAHM's from having an opinion to contribute. CleanHands' and kash's posts were both relevant to the article.
I agree that the article's headline was not really presented well enough to prove the statement. We all know that our kids need to eat healthier & exercise more. Don't most of us?! We need to involve our kids in self-care & self-education from an early age. Viva the whole foods Revolution! Please feel free to stop by: www.dontolmanusa.com/blog
what it ultimately comes down to is this, as parents we need to make better food choices for us & our kids. when both parents work time is tight but eating healthy doesn't have to take tons of time. take this snack, a sliced banana, 1-2 tbs pure maple syrup and 1-2 tbs of ground flax seed sprinkled on top. ez, yummy and the kids can even make it themselves. or try frozen fruit w/ the same toppings. costco has frozen fruit at amazing prices when you look at it from a cost per lb perspective (which u should). there are some great healthy & ez recipes for families at toddinreallife.com. and MOMS ROCK - don't let the negativity of this article get you!
This article is ridiculous! So what if mothers are working - that doesn't mean they can't pack a healthy lunch for their kids to take to school and make a healthy supper when they get home from work. This is what I do every day and my kids are actually in need of gaining a few pounds, not losing a few.
Great. That's what working moms need - one more thing to feel guilty about. This b*llsh*t article doesn't say anything about children of working mothers being less healthy than their peers; in fact it says the opposite, that there's no difference in the health of the two groups. So why the scare tactic? Does MSNBC think most moms choose to work? More likely the non-working moms are from much richer families, and being well-to-do is definitely a factor in weight gain or loss. So say it, MSNBC. Rich kids don't get as fat as poor kids. Yes, thanks. We knew that.
Ok my mom was a cop full time all different kinds of schedules and i had no weight problem. this article a joke . And the kids they study were 5th and 6th grade they are going through puberty so there bodies are changing gaining or losing weight jeez shows how much these people know. But I could be wrong with the puberty thing but yeah need to do a better job.
I work full time. My kids are neither over or under weight. We all eat healthy, no one over-eats or stuffs their faces with junk. We eat good food and occasionally treat ourselves. More crap dumping on mothers who can never be good enough.
Oh great, another article or study to make working women feel bad. I agree that this is more dumping on mothers than is necessary. Who thinks these studies up? Who pays for this trash?
This is not misleading or insulting this is a research study done by a female who is stating merely that Children have higher chances of obesity than those with mothers who stay home. I find it more insulting that women don't stay home with their children and allow the man to take care of the financial responsibilities of working outside the home. A poster said it best so I will quote him/her from another site. Yes I am married and yes my wife is at home with our children and yes I take care of my entire family both financially and emotionally as a father should while helping the mom around the house, that's just called being a man just in case you femi-nazi's didn't know.
This feminist idea that women can "be all they can be" outside the home has worn its course. You all have to stop deluding yourself with that nonsense. Let's see: get up at 5:30, shower, wash hair, dry hair, makeup, blow dry hair, apply hair products, makeup, more makeup. 7:00, get the kids out of bed and yell to the husband to get up, make a nutrient deficient breakfast the TV told your kids they would like, down one coffee for yourself, skipping breakfast, say hi to the husband, see him out the door, clean the kids up, fill the travel mug with another coffee, dress the kids, get them in the van, drive them to school, forget junior's hockey equipment and Sally's clarinet, go back for them. Rush to work in stupid slow traffic, work all day for some idiot that can't tie his/her own shoes. Skip lunch. Work late. That's OK Hubby picks up the kids. Get home. Winter clothes all over the front entrance nothing hung up. Make another nutrient deficient meal for dinner, go to bed, and repeat FOREVER! Do you get my point? Working is for chumps! It's what men USED to do FOR women so that they DIDN'T HAVE TO. Cause it sucks. Well, I hope you feminists are all loving your fat degenerate undereducated children and your 50% divorce rate, the single Mom's you pity, not that your life is any better being married and working, your husband that doesn't touch you, your facial lines that stretch everyday in traffic, your wasting physical health and beauty from all the junk you feed yourself and your family in your pursuit, of WHAT????? WHAT?!
You are a complete a**hole. Most of us work because we HAVE to; because even two moderate incomes together just barely get the essentials paid. If you make enough so your wife can stay home good for you. My husband, a good man, hard worker who logs all the overtime he can, does not. But I wouldn't trade him for a jerk like you for any amount of money.
Amen, rockermom! I'm like you - work because I HAVE to - not because I think I can "be all that I can be." On top of the fact that I already wish I could stay home, I'm also the main breadwinner so it pains me to knw it will never happen. And just in case you're wondering, dadof4, we live in a very modest home, I drive a 1999 Saturn, husband drives 2003 Pontiac. We have one child because we can't afford daycare for 2 and on my husband's salary - we could afford a cheap apartment at best. We live paycheck to paycheck on our two salaries but it sounds like a jerk like you wouldn't get that. I pity your wife. Oh...just to add, my daughter is incredibly intelligent at 4, was just put on a gluten free and dairy free diet due to intollerances which takes a huge amount of time (and money) on my part, and remains very petite. I'm glad to see you blame all the problems of the world on working women. Maybe you should thank us that we are working if we are physically able to instead of raising your taxes by utilizing govt assistance (and yes, I do realize some people still need govt assistance even while working hard).
I'm with the first commenter - first of all, the conclusion was that it *didn't* make a difference, not that it did, so you totally misrepresented the study to reach the conclusion you wanted - that women should stay in the house. Second, and more importantly, when kids are home alone it's because BOTH parents are working, not because their mothers are working. Their fathers bear just as much responsibility as their mothers, and your article just takes some of that responsibility off the fathers to heap it on the mothers. We have enough of that, without MSNBC helping it out.
Blame the fathers, of course its easier for you to not assume any responsibility. I have an idea. Stay home, have a natural at home birth, breast feed your baby, keep your child close to you, actually raise the child with the dad instead of passing in the hall saying hi/bye. give the child good choices for food like snacks and healthy dinners that are not pre-made or ordered out. Allow the father to be a father and husband taking care of his family. A good father and husband will help around the house and cook for his family to help his wife.
Stop blaming everyone else to make you feel better about your choice to work and miss out on the most important thing, the life you gave birth to. Stop blaming the father for your insecurities and want for material possessions. Stop thinking that men and women are equal because we are not. There are things men do better and there are things women do better, get over it. the 1950's were not that bad, most women liked being home with their children and having a husband that provided for the family and our nation was thin athletic and innovative unlike the current family situations. Single mothers who "can be dad too", latchkey kids because mom and dad work, killing, drugs and sex the norm in schools. I am not really sure I would be proud of contributing to this breakdown in values and morals within society but then we don't have to justify leaving our children to others everyday.
Keep feeding that dream dad of 4. I stayed at home until my kids were in 1st and 3rd grade. Because of scare tactics my family tried to instill in me (eerily similar to what you are saying) I was terrified to go back to work. Who would have known that a year later, the whole family is doing better. 1 child who was a high performer is still a high performer - although much more responsible and independent about fixing her breakfast, lunch etc... More self-reliant dressing herself, figuring out friendships etc... Child 2 has had his grades dramatically improve - self-reliance issues have also been much improved. I am much happier. The hubby is happier having the extra $ to plan for college & retirement. Grant it, my situation is very easy - my ILs who are amazing pick my kids up from school and I pick them up a "horrible" 90 minutes later lol. From my experience, it is more controlling men who say things like this (my own father included) and sadly some women buy into it. I am a pro sahm person and loved being at home w/ my kids when they were small, but at some point, you need to ease them into being more self-reliant and getting your own life:)
Once again jerk off - it is not always a CHOICE to work but a NECCESSITY! To add - I required an emergency c-section after an 18-hour natural labor. Had I not been in a hospital, both my daughter and I would have died. She also breastfed until she was 17 months old and I made her baby food. Guess my husband is a bad husband since he only makes $14/hour and can't afford what we need - even though he's a hard worker and will do anything for us. Again...totally pity your wife.
On another note. I lost my job and replaced it with two to ensure that we could keep our family values the same. Sure we do not have fancy cars or a huge house but we made sure the house we do have is in a great school district and our cars are paid for not new either, 1995 and a 2003. Our children have family time and a parent on hand 100% of the time 2 parents when I am home from work.
I don't watch sports because I am busy helping clean or just playing with my kids. I don't have a man cave because I have nothing to put in it, my money goes to the family and a spare room is the kids play room. My wife actually does have a career, she is a doula and works with mothers so that they can have the best possible birth that they want to have. She helps them understand all the choices of the birthing world and when they are in labor she is by their side from beginning to end, for this I admire her.
She work's in the home 98% of the time (while caring for our 4 children) hence at home mother and when she attends a birth I am there to take care of my children, I am a good cook, good house keeper and try my hardest to be a good husband. I learned this from my step father.
Her career is one that allows women to feel empowered and that should be shared with all women, the beautiful and natural thing only a woman can do, give birth.
I think it's a bit hypocritical of you to harangue working mothers when your wife and mother of your children works outside the home on occasion, however much she is home. A career isn't ok unless it's one you approve of, right? And you speak of "empowering women".
I support my healthy, normal-weight son financially and emotionally, too. He is healthy, makes good grades, has lots of friends, and is a favorite with his after-school child care providers because of his good behavior. I make healthy meals for both of us. With some planning, life as a working mother is not as hectic as you have portrayed. And I do it by myself. Is it because my husband left me due to my feminist views? Nope, it's because I left him.
And as regards your opinion that working is for chumps, sorry you feel that way. I happen to enjoy my career, and wish everyone could. It allows me to make a comfortable income to support us, and provides me flexibility to spend time with my son. It also gives me an outlet for my talents, which do not tend toward the domestic.
Junichiro, unless laboring women are coming to her home for her assistance, being a doula as DadofFour's wife is, IS a job outside of the home. (A very admirable career, I must say.)
I don't agree with everything you wrote in your previous posts about working mothers and the quality of their family lives, Dadof4, but I will say that your wife and children are fortunate to have a husband and father who is so committed to his family.
When I had PPD due to severe Mommy Guilt when I HAD to go back to work, I found out my doctor was going through the same thing (had a baby 6 weeks before me - BTW, her hubby is a SAHD). She said that she did a lot of research - SAHM, working moms, etc. The only kids that seemed to suffer were kids whose moms worked at home with them there (not the normal mom capacity but an actual job). Here you just told us your wife works from home with the kids there. Wow...maybe you're not the Superman you claim to be.
I'm guessing that Dadof4's wife does most of her client consults at her home as some doulas do (some will also do home visits). It's not a typical work-from-home scenario, so I will defend Dadof4 on that one. That being said, Dadof4 insults those women like my mother, my sister-in-law, and myself who have children, husbands, AND a career they love. In all three cases, darn good insurance benefits came with those careers. All three of us manage to prepare healthful meals for our families. Our husbands also share responsibilities with us as do the children, which makes family like much more pleasurable. None of us have become old before our time because of our supposedly harried lifestyle. Life is always hectic when you have children, whether a woman stays at home or works. While children need the unconditional love and support of both of their parents, they also need to learn from an early age that, while their needs are very important, the entire world does not constantly revolve around them. Mommy and Daddy have needs, too. Happy parents=good marriage=secure and happy children. It's not all or nothing as you'd like to believe, Dadof4. Feminism is about choices, not about making men obselete. I consider myself to be a feminist, but it doesn't mean I don't appreciate the differences and strengths my husband brings to our marriage, just as he appreciates my strengths and differences. Women and men ARE different, but we also have a lot in common as human beings. Physically, I can do most activites that my husband can do (although it's nice when he does some of the heavier lifting around the house).
Kids that cannot play outside and exercise due to crime, gangs and dangerous traffic have no choice but to sit in their home, eat, play on the computer or whatever and you end up with a fat kid. When you have no PE at school and the kids get a ride to school instead of wakling or riding their bikes these young people just turn into vegetables.
It's strictly the junk foods that are available now. My sister and I grew up in the '40s and '50s, when the only "junk" food around was peanut butter and candy bars. Now, there's all kinds of calorie-rich crap around that the kids stuff themselves with while waiting 'til Mom gets home and fixes dinner.
To MSNBC - shame on you for printing this article.
To all the stay at home moms and working moms - I have been both. It is hard either way. You do the best for your family. If you work full time, give yourself a pat on the back. If you stay at home give yourself a pat on the back.
What a bunch of baloney, my wife worked their entire lives of my two daughters...One is skinny and the other Models....so that's that.....I would suggest stay at home welfare Moms have obese kids.....and that is easy to prove....
HAHAHA, I am terrible and a hypocrite. You are all sheeple who love to argure that your life is far more important than your children. My wife is an at home mother prove me otherwise. So you have to work awww, poor you to choose leaving your children. live with your decision I live with ours and guess what, my children are better for it. Not a hypocrite if you actually read and know me but your to ready to prove that working as a mom is the best thing in the world, its not and never will be. Women no matter how hard they try will never grow male parts.
"HAVE" to work is NOT necessarily a "choice"! You obviously have NO idea what happens to families sometimes that force them to have two incomes. My family moved due to company-initiated changes (my husband's job, if you must know). The moves cost us dearly, and we started out in debt to keep his job; if I didn't work we would have no way to buy food or pay bills. Period. I work because yes, I do HAVE to. Your self-important, grandiose, extreme chauvonistic view can't see that, and thankfully you are in the tiniest minority in this country.
Before you go on a self-righteous tangent against me, and my family, no we do not have an expensive home we have a home that is modest (around 1500 square foot bi-level from the mid 1970s), one single car that has over 180,000 miles on it (and losing the transmission), a furnace that is losing a pilot light every few days, we don't ever go on vacation except to visit family 300 miles away as we place a priority on making sure our two kids know their grandparents, their aunt, uncle, and other family that all live in the other location. We almost never buy anything for ourselves as parents, and keep having to make even more cuts to our budget due to rising taxes and expenses. The kids get clothes and food, and one activity each.
Go ahead, find a way to rant your hatred toward me because I do have to work...try me. Heck, I'd love to stay home and actually did for a couple of years finishing college right after we'd moved here (company moved us again) a few years ago. It was a good time but when the kids started school it became much harder as the single income took a horrible toll on us.
I'm also not entirely clear why you think that it MUST be a woman to stay home in the kitchen...are you really that out of date????
That's right, keep trying to convince happy people that they're miserable instead. Then insult them by calling them "sheeple", implying that they're easily lead, or mislead. So they're only "sheeple" when they don't do what YOU tell them they should do, right? Again, pretty hypocritical.
Are American public failing so horribly as to not teach people how to read? Or if you went to a private school, go get your money back for your parents.
The spin on the title of this article is misleading and insulting. Do the children in this study have 2 working parents and/or have only a single mother who also works? Do they have a stay-at-home or part-time-employed father? If the weight gain is tied to an issue of not having a stay-at-home *parent*, the article should say so and not exclusively implicate mothers in a 2-parent household. As the article is written, I can't tell what the home situation of these children is, which suggests that the person who wrote the article (possibly the researchers as well, though I've seen may too many instances of poor science journalism to assume the problem is with the researchers) found everything other than the working mom to be irrelevant. Moreover, the title undermines the actual conclusion: children of working mothers are no more likely to be unhealthy or obese. Why was "Children of Working Moms Doing Just Fine" not the title?
MSNBC: This article is sloppy at best, sexist at worst. You need to do better.
I agree. Calling attention to "putting on pounds" makes it seem like there is a health risk, when it says in the article that there is not. Maybe kids of working moms have more food available? Or, maybe they tend to eat more "convenience food" that is more processed and has higher carbs and less protein/veggies? You just can't know from this article. It hypes up fear of fat needlessly. I suppose it guarantees more readers that way; moms are trained to be guilty, so if it says, Hey, Working Moms Doing a Great Job, no-one will waste time reading it.
To the point of both parents working and someone else supervising the kids or the kids taking care of themselves, one thing I will say is that there are many things that others (including my parents who watched my children) would say yes to that me or my husband would not. Such as over-snacking or over-treating. Sitters and grandparents in my case especially, have the tendency to "thats ok" much more than my husband and I will. I have not a problem at all saying "lets eat a little less" or "you waited too late to have that now". So in that regard I will say I agree.
Also my neighbor and I were good examples of parents who care on weight. While her mother worked, she ALSO kept sodas and chips and snack cakes stocked up along with the good foods. What is a child going to choose if given the choice? They cant eat what you dont give them access too, you know? In my house soda was a precious rarity...i did have every flavor of koolaid known to man but we all wanted water anyway.
It wasnt the fact that her mom wasnt there as much as she didnt make eating well mandatory while she was gone. My mother worked too. We rarely had fast food or junk, four kids made short work of that, but there was always, aaaaaaalways, fruit,veggies and sandwich makings and homemade popcorn. That girl is now extraordinarily large. I used to think she had the cooler parents because of her ability to drink sodas and eat all the goodies nonstop. Thanks mom. :-)
This is an insulting article on so many massive levels it is difficult to avoid trying to tackle all of them or selecting the most insulting.
I have to admit that I am very disappointed that you would approach a subject like this with such reckless abandon.
I agree. Insulting and outright bull$**t. I work outside the home. And if my children are heavier due to my not being home with them all day...I'd hate to see how skinny they would be if I stayed home.
My mother worked her entire life. I am a normal, healthy weight. My doctor said so.
And why the hell is it always the MOM's fault, hmmm? My husband works. Yet he's absolved of complicity in the health matters of our children?
It's insulting from the point of view that of how misleading the article is...beyond that, pft.
I agree with SmallTown-3021293. This article is misleading at best and does nothing to provide education on what is really the culprit of childhood obesity. What are the circumstances of the working mothers? Who is watching and providing the care of their children? And really, what food is readily available? No matter if the mother works - children should get a well balanced diet and not processed or pre-packaged foods. Yet this is what is readily available to all and not just working mothers.
I was wondering the same thing. I work (more than) full-time, but my husband is a dedicated, stay-at-home Dad. I kept re-reading the article, trying to figure out if they'd taken that scenario into consideration.
How dare they blame the working mother. If studies like this are released and taken seriously, we will only go backwards. Welcome back to the 1950's.
It personally offends me that YOU immediately decide that this article is deriding working mothers. It says that it is a scientific fact that children of working mothers have higher BMI. It also says that they are not of porer health. It doesn't say "get back in the kitchen and make something wholesome a la 1950", that is a conclusion you decided the author was making.
I find it interesting that children of working mothers have higher BMIs but I am very happy that the study found that there weren't any ill health effects to those children. It would be interesting to find out why this is the case and, as clearly stated in the body of the article, there is ongoing research to find out why this is the case. Childhood obesity is a pandemic in this country and I applaud the efforts of this research to try and better understand what is causing it. I think it is very irresponsible to immediately condemn the research because you don't like the findings.
I'm a stay at home mom and this article is completely unfair, unwarranted, and complete BS! Okay, so i think we can all agree that a SAHM would have more time to put into meals everyday, but that doesn't mean that they serve well-rounded healthy meals anymore than working women! If anything, I would say that I'm probably a little bit worse because I do have the time so I tend to do more with baking and desserts.
I am going to repeat what SmallTown said: MSNBC you need to do better!
Agreed. The article stated "Children's physical activity, time spent unsupervised and time spent watching TV" didn't seem to be a factor. Uh, what about diet?
My first thought on this is that when you have a single working parent or a two income family, there's probably an increased likelihood of relying on take-out and convenience foods just because cooking from scratch every night (as I normally do) takes a bit more advanced planning when both parents work.
This article doesn't really mean crap to me until they're taking diet into consideration.
Did you even bother to read the article...? It was talking about mothers who worked...outside the home...away from their children. Not stay at home mothers, who, while your job is demanding, your technically no working outside the home.
Junichiro,
The fact that the article discusses mothers who work outside the home does not preclude SAHM's from having an opinion to contribute. CleanHands' and kash's posts were both relevant to the article.
Hmmm.. pretty sure I was DEFENDING working mothers.
Thank you, Sandy!
I got that, CleanHands. Junichiro lambasts American proficiency in reading in a later post, but it seems s/he could use some help in that area!
I agree that the article's headline was not really presented well enough to prove the statement. We all know that our kids need to eat healthier & exercise more. Don't most of us?! We need to involve our kids in self-care & self-education from an early age. Viva the whole foods Revolution! Please feel free to stop by: www.dontolmanusa.com/blog
what it ultimately comes down to is this, as parents we need to make better food choices for us & our kids. when both parents work time is tight but eating healthy doesn't have to take tons of time. take this snack, a sliced banana, 1-2 tbs pure maple syrup and 1-2 tbs of ground flax seed sprinkled on top. ez, yummy and the kids can even make it themselves. or try frozen fruit w/ the same toppings. costco has frozen fruit at amazing prices when you look at it from a cost per lb perspective (which u should). there are some great healthy & ez recipes for families at toddinreallife.com. and MOMS ROCK - don't let the negativity of this article get you!
This article is ridiculous! So what if mothers are working - that doesn't mean they can't pack a healthy lunch for their kids to take to school and make a healthy supper when they get home from work. This is what I do every day and my kids are actually in need of gaining a few pounds, not losing a few.
Great. That's what working moms need - one more thing to feel guilty about. This b*llsh*t article doesn't say anything about children of working mothers being less healthy than their peers; in fact it says the opposite, that there's no difference in the health of the two groups. So why the scare tactic? Does MSNBC think most moms choose to work? More likely the non-working moms are from much richer families, and being well-to-do is definitely a factor in weight gain or loss. So say it, MSNBC. Rich kids don't get as fat as poor kids. Yes, thanks. We knew that.
Ok my mom was a cop full time all different kinds of schedules and i had no weight problem. this article a joke . And the kids they study were 5th and 6th grade they are going through puberty so there bodies are changing gaining or losing weight jeez shows how much these people know. But I could be wrong with the puberty thing but yeah need to do a better job.
I work full time. My kids are neither over or under weight. We all eat healthy, no one over-eats or stuffs their faces with junk. We eat good food and occasionally treat ourselves. More crap dumping on mothers who can never be good enough.
Oh great, another article or study to make working women feel bad. I agree that this is more dumping on mothers than is necessary. Who thinks these studies up? Who pays for this trash?
This is not misleading or insulting this is a research study done by a female who is stating merely that Children have higher chances of obesity than those with mothers who stay home. I find it more insulting that women don't stay home with their children and allow the man to take care of the financial responsibilities of working outside the home. A poster said it best so I will quote him/her from another site. Yes I am married and yes my wife is at home with our children and yes I take care of my entire family both financially and emotionally as a father should while helping the mom around the house, that's just called being a man just in case you femi-nazi's didn't know.
This feminist idea that women can "be all they can be" outside the home has worn its course. You all have to stop deluding yourself with that nonsense. Let's see: get up at 5:30, shower, wash hair, dry hair, makeup, blow dry hair, apply hair products, makeup, more makeup. 7:00, get the kids out of bed and yell to the husband to get up, make a nutrient deficient breakfast the TV told your kids they would like, down one coffee for yourself, skipping breakfast, say hi to the husband, see him out the door, clean the kids up, fill the travel mug with another coffee, dress the kids, get them in the van, drive them to school, forget junior's hockey equipment and Sally's clarinet, go back for them. Rush to work in stupid slow traffic, work all day for some idiot that can't tie his/her own shoes. Skip lunch. Work late. That's OK Hubby picks up the kids. Get home. Winter clothes all over the front entrance nothing hung up. Make another nutrient deficient meal for dinner, go to bed, and repeat FOREVER! Do you get my point? Working is for chumps! It's what men USED to do FOR women so that they DIDN'T HAVE TO. Cause it sucks. Well, I hope you feminists are all loving your fat degenerate undereducated children and your 50% divorce rate, the single Mom's you pity, not that your life is any better being married and working, your husband that doesn't touch you, your facial lines that stretch everyday in traffic, your wasting physical health and beauty from all the junk you feed yourself and your family in your pursuit, of WHAT????? WHAT?!
You are a complete a**hole. Most of us work because we HAVE to; because even two moderate incomes together just barely get the essentials paid. If you make enough so your wife can stay home good for you. My husband, a good man, hard worker who logs all the overtime he can, does not. But I wouldn't trade him for a jerk like you for any amount of money.
Amen, rockermom! I'm like you - work because I HAVE to - not because I think I can "be all that I can be." On top of the fact that I already wish I could stay home, I'm also the main breadwinner so it pains me to knw it will never happen. And just in case you're wondering, dadof4, we live in a very modest home, I drive a 1999 Saturn, husband drives 2003 Pontiac. We have one child because we can't afford daycare for 2 and on my husband's salary - we could afford a cheap apartment at best. We live paycheck to paycheck on our two salaries but it sounds like a jerk like you wouldn't get that. I pity your wife. Oh...just to add, my daughter is incredibly intelligent at 4, was just put on a gluten free and dairy free diet due to intollerances which takes a huge amount of time (and money) on my part, and remains very petite. I'm glad to see you blame all the problems of the world on working women. Maybe you should thank us that we are working if we are physically able to instead of raising your taxes by utilizing govt assistance (and yes, I do realize some people still need govt assistance even while working hard).
I'm with the first commenter - first of all, the conclusion was that it *didn't* make a difference, not that it did, so you totally misrepresented the study to reach the conclusion you wanted - that women should stay in the house. Second, and more importantly, when kids are home alone it's because BOTH parents are working, not because their mothers are working. Their fathers bear just as much responsibility as their mothers, and your article just takes some of that responsibility off the fathers to heap it on the mothers. We have enough of that, without MSNBC helping it out.
Blame the fathers, of course its easier for you to not assume any responsibility. I have an idea. Stay home, have a natural at home birth, breast feed your baby, keep your child close to you, actually raise the child with the dad instead of passing in the hall saying hi/bye. give the child good choices for food like snacks and healthy dinners that are not pre-made or ordered out. Allow the father to be a father and husband taking care of his family. A good father and husband will help around the house and cook for his family to help his wife.
Stop blaming everyone else to make you feel better about your choice to work and miss out on the most important thing, the life you gave birth to. Stop blaming the father for your insecurities and want for material possessions. Stop thinking that men and women are equal because we are not. There are things men do better and there are things women do better, get over it. the 1950's were not that bad, most women liked being home with their children and having a husband that provided for the family and our nation was thin athletic and innovative unlike the current family situations. Single mothers who "can be dad too", latchkey kids because mom and dad work, killing, drugs and sex the norm in schools. I am not really sure I would be proud of contributing to this breakdown in values and morals within society but then we don't have to justify leaving our children to others everyday.
Keep feeding that dream dad of 4. I stayed at home until my kids were in 1st and 3rd grade. Because of scare tactics my family tried to instill in me (eerily similar to what you are saying) I was terrified to go back to work. Who would have known that a year later, the whole family is doing better. 1 child who was a high performer is still a high performer - although much more responsible and independent about fixing her breakfast, lunch etc... More self-reliant dressing herself, figuring out friendships etc... Child 2 has had his grades dramatically improve - self-reliance issues have also been much improved. I am much happier. The hubby is happier having the extra $ to plan for college & retirement. Grant it, my situation is very easy - my ILs who are amazing pick my kids up from school and I pick them up a "horrible" 90 minutes later lol. From my experience, it is more controlling men who say things like this (my own father included) and sadly some women buy into it. I am a pro sahm person and loved being at home w/ my kids when they were small, but at some point, you need to ease them into being more self-reliant and getting your own life:)
Once again jerk off - it is not always a CHOICE to work but a NECCESSITY! To add - I required an emergency c-section after an 18-hour natural labor. Had I not been in a hospital, both my daughter and I would have died. She also breastfed until she was 17 months old and I made her baby food. Guess my husband is a bad husband since he only makes $14/hour and can't afford what we need - even though he's a hard worker and will do anything for us. Again...totally pity your wife.
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Dadof4-Can you please tell my husband to let me stay at home and take care of the house and children instead of going to work....please?
IC, I would love to.....
On another note. I lost my job and replaced it with two to ensure that we could keep our family values the same. Sure we do not have fancy cars or a huge house but we made sure the house we do have is in a great school district and our cars are paid for not new either, 1995 and a 2003. Our children have family time and a parent on hand 100% of the time 2 parents when I am home from work.
I don't watch sports because I am busy helping clean or just playing with my kids. I don't have a man cave because I have nothing to put in it, my money goes to the family and a spare room is the kids play room. My wife actually does have a career, she is a doula and works with mothers so that they can have the best possible birth that they want to have. She helps them understand all the choices of the birthing world and when they are in labor she is by their side from beginning to end, for this I admire her.
She work's in the home 98% of the time (while caring for our 4 children) hence at home mother and when she attends a birth I am there to take care of my children, I am a good cook, good house keeper and try my hardest to be a good husband. I learned this from my step father.
Her career is one that allows women to feel empowered and that should be shared with all women, the beautiful and natural thing only a woman can do, give birth.
I think it's a bit hypocritical of you to harangue working mothers when your wife and mother of your children works outside the home on occasion, however much she is home. A career isn't ok unless it's one you approve of, right? And you speak of "empowering women".
I support my healthy, normal-weight son financially and emotionally, too. He is healthy, makes good grades, has lots of friends, and is a favorite with his after-school child care providers because of his good behavior. I make healthy meals for both of us. With some planning, life as a working mother is not as hectic as you have portrayed. And I do it by myself. Is it because my husband left me due to my feminist views? Nope, it's because I left him.
And as regards your opinion that working is for chumps, sorry you feel that way. I happen to enjoy my career, and wish everyone could. It allows me to make a comfortable income to support us, and provides me flexibility to spend time with my son. It also gives me an outlet for my talents, which do not tend toward the domestic.
The article talked about mothers who worked outside the home...not those who had occupations at home.
Junichiro, unless laboring women are coming to her home for her assistance, being a doula as DadofFour's wife is, IS a job outside of the home. (A very admirable career, I must say.)
I don't agree with everything you wrote in your previous posts about working mothers and the quality of their family lives, Dadof4, but I will say that your wife and children are fortunate to have a husband and father who is so committed to his family.
When I had PPD due to severe Mommy Guilt when I HAD to go back to work, I found out my doctor was going through the same thing (had a baby 6 weeks before me - BTW, her hubby is a SAHD). She said that she did a lot of research - SAHM, working moms, etc. The only kids that seemed to suffer were kids whose moms worked at home with them there (not the normal mom capacity but an actual job). Here you just told us your wife works from home with the kids there. Wow...maybe you're not the Superman you claim to be.
I'm guessing that Dadof4's wife does most of her client consults at her home as some doulas do (some will also do home visits). It's not a typical work-from-home scenario, so I will defend Dadof4 on that one. That being said, Dadof4 insults those women like my mother, my sister-in-law, and myself who have children, husbands, AND a career they love. In all three cases, darn good insurance benefits came with those careers. All three of us manage to prepare healthful meals for our families. Our husbands also share responsibilities with us as do the children, which makes family like much more pleasurable. None of us have become old before our time because of our supposedly harried lifestyle. Life is always hectic when you have children, whether a woman stays at home or works. While children need the unconditional love and support of both of their parents, they also need to learn from an early age that, while their needs are very important, the entire world does not constantly revolve around them. Mommy and Daddy have needs, too. Happy parents=good marriage=secure and happy children. It's not all or nothing as you'd like to believe, Dadof4. Feminism is about choices, not about making men obselete. I consider myself to be a feminist, but it doesn't mean I don't appreciate the differences and strengths my husband brings to our marriage, just as he appreciates my strengths and differences. Women and men ARE different, but we also have a lot in common as human beings. Physically, I can do most activites that my husband can do (although it's nice when he does some of the heavier lifting around the house).
Kids that cannot play outside and exercise due to crime, gangs and dangerous traffic have no choice but to sit in their home, eat, play on the computer or whatever and you end up with a fat kid. When you have no PE at school and the kids get a ride to school instead of wakling or riding their bikes these young people just turn into vegetables.
It's strictly the junk foods that are available now. My sister and I grew up in the '40s and '50s, when the only "junk" food around was peanut butter and candy bars. Now, there's all kinds of calorie-rich crap around that the kids stuff themselves with while waiting 'til Mom gets home and fixes dinner.
I also had to get dinner ready, back then.
To Dad of 4 - you are terrible.
To MSNBC - shame on you for printing this article.
To all the stay at home moms and working moms - I have been both. It is hard either way. You do the best for your family. If you work full time, give yourself a pat on the back. If you stay at home give yourself a pat on the back.
A pointless study and/or article. All it said was the kids are fatter but all is well.
What a bunch of baloney, my wife worked their entire lives of my two daughters...One is skinny and the other Models....so that's that.....I would suggest stay at home welfare Moms have obese kids.....and that is easy to prove....
HAHAHA, I am terrible and a hypocrite. You are all sheeple who love to argure that your life is far more important than your children. My wife is an at home mother prove me otherwise. So you have to work awww, poor you to choose leaving your children. live with your decision I live with ours and guess what, my children are better for it. Not a hypocrite if you actually read and know me but your to ready to prove that working as a mom is the best thing in the world, its not and never will be. Women no matter how hard they try will never grow male parts.
"HAVE" to work is NOT necessarily a "choice"! You obviously have NO idea what happens to families sometimes that force them to have two incomes. My family moved due to company-initiated changes (my husband's job, if you must know). The moves cost us dearly, and we started out in debt to keep his job; if I didn't work we would have no way to buy food or pay bills. Period. I work because yes, I do HAVE to. Your self-important, grandiose, extreme chauvonistic view can't see that, and thankfully you are in the tiniest minority in this country.
Before you go on a self-righteous tangent against me, and my family, no we do not have an expensive home we have a home that is modest (around 1500 square foot bi-level from the mid 1970s), one single car that has over 180,000 miles on it (and losing the transmission), a furnace that is losing a pilot light every few days, we don't ever go on vacation except to visit family 300 miles away as we place a priority on making sure our two kids know their grandparents, their aunt, uncle, and other family that all live in the other location. We almost never buy anything for ourselves as parents, and keep having to make even more cuts to our budget due to rising taxes and expenses. The kids get clothes and food, and one activity each.
Go ahead, find a way to rant your hatred toward me because I do have to work...try me. Heck, I'd love to stay home and actually did for a couple of years finishing college right after we'd moved here (company moved us again) a few years ago. It was a good time but when the kids started school it became much harder as the single income took a horrible toll on us.
I'm also not entirely clear why you think that it MUST be a woman to stay home in the kitchen...are you really that out of date????
You become a bigger, self-absorbed a-hole in every post!
Oh yeah and another thing, she is home doing all the motherly things you wish you could.
That's right, keep trying to convince happy people that they're miserable instead. Then insult them by calling them "sheeple", implying that they're easily lead, or mislead. So they're only "sheeple" when they don't do what YOU tell them they should do, right? Again, pretty hypocritical.
Sandy I have to give you a huge ditto! Thanks for saying exactly what I was thinking!!
Great minds think alike;)
I do as many (if not more) "motherly things" with my daughter than many of my SAHM friends do.
This is junk science. Everyone is gaining weight. You can't link weight gain to anything other than excess calories and little exercise.
Telling women not to work is B.S.
Are American public failing so horribly as to not teach people how to read? Or if you went to a private school, go get your money back for your parents.