On the nose. It is income not education.

I agree, the more money you have the better health care you can afford. Do the numbers correlate, do as many HS Grads get cancer as College grads? Or do MORE HS Grads get cancer, if more get cancer because there are more HS Grads then the numbers are skewed. What percent of HS vs College Grads RECOVER? Are the working people tougher physically than the cubicle inhabitors? Once you GET cancer what is the percent of recovery between the classes? To REALLY do this you have to take 1,000 HS Grads and 1,000 College Grads and study them from 18 till death and see what percentage get cancer and what percent recover, maybe be a whole different thing. There are a lot more HS Grads than College Grads, which skews the figures, you see this whole article is a bunch of B.S., and what about guys like me who have had Cancer TWICE and recovered? How many of THOSE are there out there?

Its ok, Obama is fixing that, the people with more money will be helping to pay for healthcare for those with less. Soon it will be better not to get a college degree because the more you make, the less you end up making.

Look at what they are doing to retirement benifits, if you made so much over you lifetime, you get less retirement, even though you would of paid more in, in the first place. It seems always about the poor, what happened to the american dream of you work hard and advanceing yourself and you have a better life. Seems to be now, work hard at educating yourself, working long hours at getting ahead and live the american dream. Today it is get educated, work hard at advance and pay for your own retirement, because everything you paid in goes to those that didnt have your drive.

Shame on you, Richard.

You should be humbly thankful for what you have been given and recognize that nothing you have is because you are so incredibly special--just lucky---for now

That's right. In American we don't care about or treat worthless poor people who develop cancer.

What about those of us that get are edu ma cation from newsvine?

Richard: Good points. Spread my wealth seems to be the motto.

You're a total consumer.

Shoot, I knew of two coworkers at the college I worked at that died from cancer, and even a few students as well.

So Brenda..the answer you believe is to simply vote demercrat. Because higher taxes are the answer to everything.

I suppose those poor people like hillary and John kerry would agree with you since there so caring with other peoples money anyways.

@retiredcoastguard: The United States Government is preparing for Chapter 11. Both parties are unwilling and unable to stop the borrowing/spending machine. Then we'll see starvation, not cancer, as the leading cause of death among grads and non-grads.

JM i agree.. i just get tired of people believing one party or the other is responsible..

It is not a republican vs Democrat thing but a liberal vs conservative problem and i know some liberal republicans and some conservative Democrats.

There needs to be some budgeting and a great place to start would be eliminating those automatic pay raises the congress gets.

Then maybe we could work on not rewarding moms to have kids they can't afford somehow.

Exactly!

It is about income, not education. If you are poor and don't have insurance, you don't don't have a shot at healthy living. You can be educated and intelligent but if you can't afford medical tests and proper medical care, you will have health issues arise and they will only get worse as time goes on. Without insurance or the money to get decent medical care, your odds of getting sick and staying sick are tremendous.

Yes, it is about money.

Rotten deal all around. So much for The People's right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Without health, none is possible. If you die, you are a citizen of no country anyway. Thomas Paine knew that.

Took the words out of my mouth.

And its usually the grads who party/play harder than those with less means. One might say hazing cures cancer.

Most of my friends who didn't go on to college still smoke and they're in their mid-thirties. They have had plenty of time to take in all the anti-smoking campaigns and warning yet they still smoke. On the other hand, most of us who went to college together did smoke (and drink/party...etc) during that time but quit shortly after graduating. That was almost 15 years ago. So, it may not have anything to do with being 'better educated about cancer' but it sure is an undeniable pheonomenon when the two parties act in distinct manners.

In my generation(which might be reflected in the statistics) you tended to go to college or Viet Nam. In Viet Nam there was Agent Orange and also I believe a lot of pressure to smoke. Really get hooked to smoke. So now I am still alive but my friend in high school is in Quantico National Cemetery.

Respectfully (as a survivor myself), did your friend die of his cancer at age 28?

This study is how long and well people with cancer live--not who gets cancer in the first place.

You explain it by understanding how statistics work. Just because a certain demographic is *less likely* to get cancer, doesn't mean that nobody in that demographic will ever get cancer. Anecdotal evidence never disproves statistics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOZ-Etb0k0Q

funny this dummy does not sound like she is from the Taxed Enough Already party.

@retired coastguard.

The average USA citizen pays lower taxes than many other countries, have you ever compared the taxes in the UK and some European countries to ours?

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2367/are-u-s-taxes-low-compared-to-the-rest-of-the-industrialized-world

There are services needed constantly such as local streetcleaning and garbage collection, water, safety or retirement, orphans or disability. There are some programs where it is best for all workers or homeowners in the public community to pitch in a little instead of depending on a few elitists to take advantage of the whole, charging out of the ballpark rates, or creating favoritism or polarization between haves and have nots, or forcing a biased approach from a religious group, or casting blame in a divorce, or custody dramas, or killing each other in personal feuds, or any example of situations where oversight, transparency, neutrality or objectivity - also, unbiased and unbribed mediation and fairness, is needed.

These are your fellow living feeling human beings. There are humane ways to manage overpopulation by preventing it before it becomes an enormous problem, for example, but it seems that some "belief systems" have become obstacles to making more access to such services of prevention possible while at the same time targeting certain enemies and condoning war which is mass murder. Attitude is everything in some cases and people will behave what they believe. The tragedy is when a subjective belief is simply not true and creates negative consequences historically, either in individual lives or on a mass scale.

***A reminder to all of us in socio-intellectual dialogue and etiquette - Please stick to arguing the points and do try not to reduce your sarcasm to just calling people names like "dummy". We have all done this, but it is lazy, rude and antagonistic to others if one does not briefly enlighten by an example in one's own words about the video or clarify the reasons why one thinks the way one does or why one, in this case, should think this person in the video is wrongheaded. Also take the time to seriously present your facts and references to counter another's assumptions. Even if you do present a link to a video, it is still not YOU or YOUR POV (point of view), and can be confusing to others.

The word dummy offends you but uneducated don't i see sorry my tele prompter is not working.

Look insight if you or any of your liberal friends feel the need to pay more taxes please do so just stay out of my wallet.

@Quinn687

How much do you want to bet this person went to college and made a little mistake and what about the content of the article???

Duh, Quinn. Your behavior is revealing your motives. What you have created above is called a myopic perspective critique of the author presented in a puffed up self righteous way to degrade the author which distracts from the subject matter of issues presented and therefore, completely ignoring the core purpose for the article news about this study of college students and cancer itself.

Its okay to say the study is bogus or that you disagree with the findings etc., but here you just throw a barb at the author for a few words in a title which is really quite trivial although you do make a legitimate complaint. Your complaint is still just an aside. Would you rather not even be here to comment or atleast have the courtesy to contribute an idea about the topic and content of the article to others here or to participate in any dialogue with others at all? It is self centered and rude to not even offer any ideas that pertain to the subject matter of the article in dialogue, even if brief..it is taking but not giving anything to the conversation, and therefore, not taking other readers here into any serious consideration whatsoever when you do that.

Wow, do you get this worked up over every little attempt at humor? You need a vacation.

Hello..Quinn , I am just glad to see a post on here not about N.Y and the gay rights to marriage.

I thought i was sick of wiener and now this is the hot topic geese.

So why am i here.

Its raining outside no complaint we need it.

Totally agree Family Woman.

What is your point? Who is "you people "? The scientists? The writers? The cancer patients?

This comment does not make sense.

I think there is a very strong correlation concerning the dramatic rise of cancers since the Industrial Revolution.

Pollution of our air and water is a terrible thing. We currently have a nuclear power plant underwater but they are saying it is okay even though the power had to be turned off for awhile. Another one was threatened last month in the storms. There is a proposal to the NRC for longer back up, details at:

http://www.resilientsocieties.org/

You might also check out the EPA site to find out what pollutants are in your own area, you can just put in your zipcode for your county to see the quality of air and water you have at:

http://www.scorecard.org/

...because we all have a right to know.

Spoken like a typical Republican. According to you, people who have cancer deserve it because they were out of shape, and didn't exercise; on the contrary, people with less education can be physically healthier than their educated counterparts. College grads are buried in their careers while the wage slave has more spare time.

Tell that to Jim Fixx!

You'd have a higher survival rate if you did nothing about your cancer? Chemo-therapy brought me to the edge of death, but I am back. I'm certain the tumor growing in my large intestine would have taken me all the way there, and it would have been a painful way to die.

And you changed nothing else in your life except you had chemo? I certainly doubt that. How do you know it wasn't something else you changed in your life? The medical industry knew more about cancer in the 1930's than they do today. Do you really think they would allow a cure for cancer. All the research money would dry up. It always amounts to money. Peoples lives don't matter. A doctor can't deviate from the standard treatment or risk losing his license. Yet there are treatments that have much better results than chemo. But those treatments are not allowed in the U.S. Money, money, money.

Everyone already has cancer. It's when your body can't fight it off that it grows. Every cell in the body regenerates at the most every 2 months. All one has to do is enable the body to do it's job. Wooo, radical conspiracy.

You've got it all figured out, genius.

Hmm.. well if you really want to further deteriorate the body, give it a good dose of radiation. That will really help NOT. You're attacking the good cells as well as the bad. But further, radiation causes cancer. True, something has to change, otherwise the cancer wouldn't grow. Look at the pH balance of the blood. When fighting off a cancerous growth, get the blood to be alkaline instead of acidic.

Sharon: Very interesting assumptions and quite intuitive.

Personally I think many illnesses that emerge in adulthood have roots in childhood.

Surprisingly, science is discovering that some illnesses (that emerge) originate from our grandparents, especially if they were malnourished, due to famine or other reasons.

Indeed, JM. I also think that we still don't know enough about how viruses affect us. Just in the last decade or two have scientists documented that certain cancers, ulcers, and even tooth decay have their origins in viruses.

There is also evidence that certain mental health issues such as schizophrenia are more prevalent in children of parents who have experienced famine.

I believe that sometimes illness is generational, in more ways that just genetic code.

it isn't personal. it's about averages in a population. you appear to be at the upper end of the range for your educational level. good for you.

Jane i like msnbc but they do have a liberal view of everything and just because someone throws crap at you like the Crappy News Networks it doe not mean you have to eat it.

If you get the chance to listen to Dave Ramsey sometime on fox radio you will hear of a lot of college educated folks out of work and very deep in debt.

Just like you I have no college but i did manage to BUILD my wifes and i dream home and i have health insurance and have seen a lot of this world including Alaska and Hawaii .

But what i am most proud of is my debt is very small mostly because i do not live above my means and i did not have to ever go on welfare or collect unemployment common sense can not be bought.

Thank you Jane!! I too found this article disgusting... Not everyone can afford a college education or desire to go into debt for many years for one. I didn't get one and have a much higher than normal IQ. My parents were not going to waste the money on me because I refused to go into their "approved" choice!! They wanted me to be a teacher and I didn't want to be one. I ended up going into a technical semi-professional career that was very desirable and took many years to complete but as an apprentice. It would certainly help a great deal if the apprentice programs were brought back! My three sons also chose not to go to college. The eldest tried and passed out of the first 2 1/2 years of a degree and was told he could not pass out of an entire degree however qualified he was and he was. College was boring. He has a skill set that now puts him at a college where he does some teaching and makes him one of the highest paid people there. His skill set is not one that a degree is available in or desirable. There are post high school training programs that are desirable and available that will put people into high income brackets with good insurance. But none of that protects a person against cancer. Much of cancer is genetic and an article like this seems to make it sound like if a person does not go to college, they are partly responsible for getting cancer. As a cancer patient, there is nothing more cruel than to have some jackass tell us that. We don't need any idiots out there somehow making it "our" fault we have cancer. Some of us simply come from families that have a huge genetic mess of cancer.

Good point laurazz, it is more about having the money to afford those things one needs to live a better quality of life and to prevent what can kill us. With no money, one cannot even get food or go see a dentist with an infected tooth and can die just from a big bad abscess if it goes to the brain within days.

I would add that there are also problems within the big biz of higher education that need to be addressed in for profit colleges. Some have found, after the student loan problems, that it is not worth investing in the possibility of bad credit for the rest of one's life, as in housing where now we are finding people turned off from the idea of wanting to aspire to own a home or be committed to some long term loan at all. Why get all the responsibilities of upkeep and taxes when you cannot even afford to keep the house up?

It is sad to see such defeatist attitudes but they are a reality, and this skepticism is a justifiable reaction to the careless acts of exploiters who have pocketed the profits created by the trusting pens and the ideals and aspirations of the upwardly mobile. They have unfairly left graduates in the dust with bad credit forever without even the guarantee of a job and income to pay the loans back after gaining the qualified expertise and that coveted diploma, they stall by adding a required license with fees to even be able to apply to professional positions in the field on top of the diplomas, so its a hoop after hoop to jump through to renew and pay more fees every year to a license which draws in more moneys, there are no exemptions or ends to this game unless one gets the whole enchilada, the PhD, and then they tell you you are overqualified. To top it off, they have a hissy fit when called down for their dishonesty and negligence in making false claims of greatness to their prospects all along (look at the recruiting!), knowing that this young person's dreams will possibly never actualize if he or she doesn't ace the competition, get admitted to the inside with adequate sponsorship and grooming, and find a safe career niche.

There are only so many dynamic and "exciting" resumes one can design, and only so many ways one can dress and conduct oneself at an interview or do we take another bunch of tests on some silly computer after having earned a masters degree for several years, sheesh! Then there are the parallel fields, oh, you did not take this or that specialized class or have the equivalency, although you have the degree, so go back to school and sign up for this other major program. You don't think the light will go off in the brain of such a person and realize what is really the deceit and BS behind it all? If not, as a personnel manager, you are delusional or dishonest and we think we know which one if you are if stationed at that post, IE. hired to be a personnel officer at whatever company USA.

It seems that colleges should have a vocational component or an agency for placement that balances this out so that they do not offer courses or majors without fully disclosing a lack of positions available in any one field before charging tuitions and making loans to young uninformed idealistic students. They do not offer any such guarantees of success or placement, although the loans say they are guaranteed. It is misleading and kids, just kids - end up signing their names on the dotted lines to get those classes and that great college status, not realizing they can damn themselves for the rest of their lives due to the inability for them to claim bankruptcy or have terms of limitation on such loans due to legislation that allows this.

It is glaringly apparent how this set up is unfair and the provably misleading sales trickery at the financial aids table makes for a disaster long term in the later failed placement of grads all the way around. It would be nice to see this investigated and corrected with some safety guards or checks as in checks and balances put on loan officers and providers who charge interest, so that we can actually get on with improving our education and offering relevant and suitable vocational training that is needed and applies to the actual current demand of services and jobs, and lead these grads into a quality working life in order to pay back and successfully maintain a broad based, efficient, savvy, more careful and mindful middle class population which would, in turn, create better health conditions across the board... and yes, less stress!

With houses blown down, flooded or burning down this year and being beat up by Mother Nature, we need much less human created problems and more support for our hard working Americans and families in need or in sudden crisis situations through no fault of their own. Our Vets need jobs, are ready and have good skill sets and we need a few good men all around to help. May cool heads and strong bodies prevail for our continued survival and may all Americans with self motivation independently choose to get on the same page to apply their best skills when it comes down to survival and stop the divisiveness for gain, envy, prejudice, destructiveness or avarice to stand united and strong in our basic foundational defense and progress.

aviva-dayan re:

"Anyone can get cancer"

The title says, College Grads Less Likely to Die From Cancer.

It doesn't say, College Grads Less Likely to GET Cancer.

Ooops. Late night?

JM: I wonder if they called and had a survey of questions:

1. Did you graduate from HS ?

2. Did you graduate from College ?

3. Do you have cancer ?

4. Are you dead ?

good one.

It reminds me of the commercials from hungry attorneys that start, "If you, or some you know has died, or is sick from mesothelioma, call the law offices of Seymore Money, right away..."