Jillian Michaels is another example of a healthy woman with PCOS.
I have it as well and I'm a healthy 25 year old-5ft 1in 128 lbs. I however am not a candidate for Met b/c I'm not insulin resistant. I work out, do acupuncture twice a week, drink awful home-brewed herbal teas and eat healthy. My husband and I have been trying to conceive for almost a year now. I haven't had one period or ovulation on my own since we started trying...I have PCOS to thank for my IF.
When I was 8, as of now, I would have told any doctor who tried to give me drugs for potential PCO that I didn't WANT kids at all, or at least enough to risk the side effects of diabedes meds, which can be pretty nasty. One of the big ones is weight gain - and PCO is already linked to overweight women. For someone like me, who has a very difficult time maintaining my weight, I'd rather be infertile than put my health at further risk with these drugs!
8 years old is too young to let girls make that kind of health decision that could impact the rest of their life. Period.
@CJ I believe that you misunderstand the way metformin works. You may be thinking of insulin, which aids in fat storage. PCOS is linked to weight gain in that the PCOS causes insulin resistance, which causes the body to over-produce insulin and enables fat storage to occur. Metformin, when given to PCOS patients makes the body more sensitive to insulin and able to produce less, often leading to a weight loss for the sufferer.
And yes, metformin can have some icky side effects. However, taken preventively it can keep the PCOS sufferer from developing insulin resistance that would require a lifetime of upkeep medication. Additionally, insulin resistance has been linked to many ill side effects such as increased rates of heart disease and life-shortening diabetes. To avoid a lifetime of ill health, a trial run on these medications might be a responsible parenting choice for at-risk girls.
I think that the article over-simplifies by calling metformin a "diabetes" drug. While it is used often in the treatment of diabetes, it is not used here to treat the same hormonal mechanism, nor is it being used to reverse a type 2 diabetes situation, as I assume @courser believes, that could be avoided through simple lifestyle measures.
Metformin is a glucophage, or sugar eater. I haven't had any side effects while on Metformin, other than weight loss.
PCOS originates from a lack of estrogen and extra testosterone--weight gain, increased body hair, a lower voice, etc. are symptoms. You can't diet away an estrogen deficiency.
If, 30 years ago when I was 8 and struggling with early onset menses and an unexplained uptick in my weight I would have jumped at the chance to get my hormones under control.
Doctors then did not test for thyroid or hormonal malfunctions.
Instead, I have endured all the horrible effects that PCOS brings, including 5 years of fertility treatment.
I am not diabetic, but am presently on Metformin--and it makes a world of difference for PCOS issues.
By doctors being more aware of PCOS, women will have a better chance of treatment and avoidance of the detrimental effects PCOS can have on your life.
If my daughter shows the same signs I did, I will DEFINITELY get her on metformin so she does not have to struggle like I did.
As a woman with PCOS, I can vouch for the weight loss that I get with Metformin--this isn't about eating healthy, etc.--PCOS is a disease that is not treatable in itself, but we can mitigate some of the symptoms. I wish I had known about PCOS when I started gaining weight rapidly, even though I was not eating anything different.
We should at least give our daughters the option of preserving their fertility. I have read some of the posts on PCOS sites and to have a pre-and early teen girl describe how they feel when they are told at that young age that they will never have children is heartbreaking.
I can understand that the drug could be really helpful, but for those who'd rather not take a drug, I'd be interested in what a change of diet could do as well. Americans especially are known for our high-carb, high-sugar diets, and prolonged high blood sugar usually results in insulin resistance as well. Children are big on sugar too. I'm sure having them both doesn't help.
This isn't about dieting. PCOS interferes with your body's ability to metabolize sugar. I put on 30 pounds in one month, while doing nothing differently. I was at my ideal weight, was not overweight at all, and yet I got PCOS. After about 4 years of beating myself up, and 60 pounds later, I got on Metformin when the doctor saw the cysts in my ovaries. I lost 20 pounds in one month, while eating the same things as I had before. I have since lost another 25 pounds and am still losing more weight. Yes, I watch what I eat, but dieting alone is not the answer.
Perhaps not, but I have to ask, were you still eating to the doctor's recommendations? Doctors today still support the flawed recommendations of the government.
How much fruit were you eating? Indulging in any treats? Still eating grains of any kind? They all add up, even the foods that are "healthy". Especially the recommendations for servings of grains. Sugar is sugar is sugar. In fact, it's thought that even fake sugars cause an insulin response and can still be damaging. Aside from a small amount maybe from fruit, sugar is poison to the body. While we probably still need some (although you'll survive with no carbs, but not protein and fat interestingly enough), we don't need near as much as they say, and there's no need to metabolize something that isn't there.
I never said it had anything to do with weight, although insulin resistance can certainly affect it.
I'm saying diet can have something to do with it and maybe help with the treatment, as our weight gains and losses are very much related to the same hormone, insulin. If your body isn't using insulin properly in the first place, why then feed it the extra sugars that require it to respond with insulin? It would be a way to help control it by not making your body overproduce insulin. If you don't understand that diet is directly related to hormones, then you need to do more research on how our body uses carbs and what happens when we eat too much. That hormones and diet aren't related is very, very false.
Would you like to tell me how my carb intake will help the cysts in my ovaries that are visible with an ultrasound?
There are some things you can't diet away. If you look at PCOS on webmd, we don't know what causes it, and we can't cure it. We can only manage its symptoms.
PCOS is a result of low estrogen and elevated testosterone. The insulin resistance comes later.
No, it won't fix already existing cysts, and if you'd read the article, you'd realize that it wasn't about that. It was about using a drug in young girls that controls insulin. What diet will do is help control the production of insulin, and when you can get that under control, it effects how other hormones are produced, like testosterone. I do know people who are using lower-carb, no sugar (Primal/Paleo)to help treat it and are getting some relief, but I feel like there simply isn't enough research since they're diving into the diet part because doctors don't know anything. We could really use some numbers, and not just personal stories. But their hormones are finally leveling out some.
Thanks for some publicity for PCOS! This is a great breakthrough that researchers are trying to prevent the sydrome from developing further. Please, however, I cannot emphasize enough that this syndrome is about much more than infertility, however painful. PCOS can potentially doom a woman to diabetes, heart disease and depresssion.
I have classic PCOS. The emotional side effects from having PCOS really affected my self esteem. I started dieting when I was 8 years old. I really feel that the low fat diet craze back then made it worse with the added sugars in low fat foods. I would definitely would want 8 year old me to take metformin to stop the effects of PCOS.
I now have twin girls. I'm really worried that they are at high risk of developing PCOS. I do believe that Metformin is fairly safe with little side effects. However, I would prefer to avoid giving them preventative medication. Wouldn't exercise and a diabetic diet work the same as Metformin in helping your body contol insulin levels?
You can't diet away elevated testosterone. You might want to look at your daughters' hands--a longer 4th finger/ring finer than the index finger is a sign of elevated testosterone.
Giving a girl metformin at age 8 will help prevent infertility due to insulin resistance. However, if you read about PCOS on webmd, the lower your weight, the better the chances you have on conceiving. So yes, diet and exercise do playa a role. My doctor also switched me from Depo to a birth control pill because the birth control pills have estrogen in them. You might want to put them on the pill when they are old enough for contraceptives vs. another method.
It probably would help. I personally switched to the Primal WOE, similar to Paleo, a few months back felt immediate results for my own problems (not PCOS, but weight and other related problems). Google Mark's Daily Apple, click on the Forums page and type in PCOS in the search bar on the site to find all the threads related to it. Ignore his advertising, it makes it look gimmicky, but he's got a few books out and his own meal replacement stuff. The book is helpful if you go through with the change though. The people I met on the forums on the website are mostly pretty nice, and many of them also have PCOS.
It's a drastic change getting rid of grains, eliminating as much sugar as possible, and staying away from things like hormone filled conventional meat and soy. It's about eating the best whole, un-processed foods that we can afford. While we only have personal stories, many of them have found that their hormones are getting a little better under control.
I personally have been having the easiest time I've ever had losing my weight. On top of that, many of my insulin-related problems and needing to eat every 2 hours or I'd feel hypoglycemic is gone. Many others have seen improvement in their Type II diabetes. It can definitely help with insulin resistance, even with PCOS.
With the problems with side effects with diabetics taking Metformin why not increase drug sales and profits and to hell with the FDA doing anything about long term side effects. It still gets down to preventative treatments with diet and nutririon.
Diet and nutrition do affect hormones and is directly related to insulin. Do some research before you start spouting more lies to people who really need the help.
I hope that you are right. Before I got PCOS, I was unsympathetic to overweight people--have a vegetable, get outside, and your problems will be solved. With my weight gain with PCOS, I have really had to struggle to lose weight, and am much less hasty to judge overweight people as lazy or undisciplined eaters. Not all overweight people have an illness requiring medication, but that possibility should be explored before we give overweight people platitudes about exercising and dieting.
For most overweight people, it's generally an issue of eating too much of the wrong things. Our kids are starting out early these days, but for those who become overweight it becomes a vicious cycle. Sugar is a big one, and our body treats it like poison, and when we eat too much of it our body responds by sending out tons of insulin to get rid of it right away. We only need a small amount of blood sugar and it's best to keep it a constant level with foods low in sugar itself instead of the small meals recommendation.
They can eat the bad stuff for a while with no consequence, but once it catches up to them the resulting insulin problems tend to make a person more hungry more often, and the bigger they get the more calories they need, making the problem worse because they're likely still overeating. I hate it when people blame Type II diabetes on being fat, when really they're both just symptoms. My mother is on Metaformin for that, but she'd feel so much better if she'd stop eating crap food. She still eats about 3 times as many carbs as I take in a day and her doctor is still okay with that! Those sort of diets also cause inflammation and damage to the heart and cause complications for things like your cholesterol. It really comes down to hormone problems, and it's related to diet. And if you've already got a hormone imbalance due to something else (like PCOS), you really need to watch what you eat. Control the insulin and you essentially control nearly everything else.
Unless there's a thyroid issue or similar, no, meds aren't needed. Diet and exercise can still work, but not the way doctors try and make us. Calorie restriction sucks if they try and use a low-fat diet as our bodies would really rather use that as fuel. It's a better, slow-burning source of energy. Couple that with the tendency to think we need to run ourselves to death and you can see why it fails most of the time. They should be focused on moving slowly with low-impact exercise to prevent further inflammation and gaining strength as muscle helps burn energy too.
CuddleMom, I never claimed it to be caused by diet or an issue because of diet. But the symptoms can be controlled by diet.
I have PCOS. I tried hard to lose weight doing all of the possible diets. Nothing. I went on metformin and lost weight immediately with absolutely no lifestyle change. I still exercised and I still ate the same things. Being overweight was never about me eating the wrong things or being a couch potato. Because of allergies, everything I eat is made from scratch. There is no corn in my diet and I keep the grains to a minimum. I have always eaten lots of vegetables and fruits with chicken breasts and fish. PCOS caused my body to store everything I ate as fat. Metformin allows my body to process insulin effectively.
I have PCOS and my symptoms began to crop up around the time I was 5 with acne and hair that grew in a certain area way too early. The weight gain followed soon afterward and I wasn't diagnosed until I was about 23 (I'm 28 now) and read an article about PCOS. Part of my problem was that I was adopted and doctors dismissed the sypmtoms as being genetic.
I think it's wonderful that there seems to be more awareness of PCOS and especially how it can crop up in young girls. The doctor who diagnosed me was adamant that it was something I was born with. When I went on Metformin and the Glycemic Index diet, the extra weight just about melted away. Still, it took many years of being overweight and feeling unattractive, especially when the facial hair started cropping up in junior high. School was horrendous paired with a grandmother who constantly made an issue out of my weight and a father who ribbed me for my "hairyness" and acne. The years between my symptoms starting to appear and diagnosis were very long and I hope this can be prevented in other children.
As for the infertility, I suppose I was lucky. I had to use Chlomid and an Ovidrel shot, but both times I used the drug I got pregnant. I miscarried the first time but I'm 21 weeks along now and everything looks normal. I always had a defined waistline and my periods were pretty regular by the end of high school, though, so it can vary from woman to woman.
I have PCOS and metformin has been great for me. I wish my doctors had listened to me 20 years ago when I was gaining weight for no reason and couldn't get pregnant. Now, at 45 and early menopause, I'll never have the chance to get pregnant.
Yay! More profit for Big Pharma! Let's convince everyone to treat their 8-year old daughters for fertility problems. Think of the money we'll make! I wonder what the real long term side effects of dumping drugs into these children will be.
@JCA - I agree. And yes it is a cheap drug (more than $4 if you're not glued to Walmart) BUT keep in mind Metformin IS NOT approved by the FDA as a treatment for PCOS. It is approved by the FDA as a Diabetes medication. So...what better way to get the $$ (even if its only a few bucks per person per month) from a wider range of consumers??
If you do not have or know someone close to you with pcos and have never done extensive research on the condition, if you don't realize that this syndrome has many facets, and finally, if you are unable to understanding to the suffers, please just stay off sites like this. Your ignorance is obvious to those who have spent years suffering with this condition and some who continue to research it after 20 years. It is NOT just a fertility issue. It is NOT just a fat issue. Diet does help with SOME of the symptoms, but not all and it is not a cure. Science is just beginning to scratch the surface on PCOS but they now know that PCOS is a genetic disorder that one is born with. No one suffering from PCOS ate their way to the disease. As the article states, the precursers are present in our bodies at a very early age. PCOS suffers are VERY tired of being told by people that do not have the condition, what they are doing wrong.
This is the STUPIDEST idea!!. Give me a break! I would love to know how they can claim those are the criteria for being "at risk" when they can't even clinically diagnose the disorder! I have been told I have PCOS by one doctor because they don't know what else it could be BUT my gyn said did a US and found no cysts and bloodwork to prove my ovaries are functioning perfectly. When the doctors don't have any ideas left they label you with PCOS, its their fall back because they don't want to say "I have no idea". Its commonly misdiagnosed while the real problem grows (i.e. Cushings Syndrome, etc).
I was put on Metformin by the first doctor and there are HORRIBLE side effects. It is causing me liver & kidney disfunction (dumping bilirubin in my kidneys). Any parent who would allow their 8 year old daughter to be put on this for a foolhardy science project needs to be slapped!!
Another drug we don't need. Prevetion should be about healthy living, not popping pills at a younger age.
How do you prevent a hormonal imbalance????? Yes, exercise and diet help but some diseases also need medications.
PCOS doesn't necessarily have to do with unhealthy living. There are lean women with PCOS. Victoria Beckham is supposedly one of them.
Jillian Michaels is another example of a healthy woman with PCOS.
I have it as well and I'm a healthy 25 year old-5ft 1in 128 lbs. I however am not a candidate for Met b/c I'm not insulin resistant. I work out, do acupuncture twice a week, drink awful home-brewed herbal teas and eat healthy. My husband and I have been trying to conceive for almost a year now. I haven't had one period or ovulation on my own since we started trying...I have PCOS to thank for my IF.
When I was 8, as of now, I would have told any doctor who tried to give me drugs for potential PCO that I didn't WANT kids at all, or at least enough to risk the side effects of diabedes meds, which can be pretty nasty. One of the big ones is weight gain - and PCO is already linked to overweight women. For someone like me, who has a very difficult time maintaining my weight, I'd rather be infertile than put my health at further risk with these drugs!
8 years old is too young to let girls make that kind of health decision that could impact the rest of their life. Period.
Metformin can actually lead to weight LOSS not weight gain. Do your research.
@Allison, I'm sure there are PLENTY of other side effects that this child might have gotten.
Kudos to this mother for NOT playing Russian Roulette with her still developing child's health.
@CJ I believe that you misunderstand the way metformin works. You may be thinking of insulin, which aids in fat storage. PCOS is linked to weight gain in that the PCOS causes insulin resistance, which causes the body to over-produce insulin and enables fat storage to occur. Metformin, when given to PCOS patients makes the body more sensitive to insulin and able to produce less, often leading to a weight loss for the sufferer.
And yes, metformin can have some icky side effects. However, taken preventively it can keep the PCOS sufferer from developing insulin resistance that would require a lifetime of upkeep medication. Additionally, insulin resistance has been linked to many ill side effects such as increased rates of heart disease and life-shortening diabetes. To avoid a lifetime of ill health, a trial run on these medications might be a responsible parenting choice for at-risk girls.
I think that the article over-simplifies by calling metformin a "diabetes" drug. While it is used often in the treatment of diabetes, it is not used here to treat the same hormonal mechanism, nor is it being used to reverse a type 2 diabetes situation, as I assume @courser believes, that could be avoided through simple lifestyle measures.
Metformin is a glucophage, or sugar eater. I haven't had any side effects while on Metformin, other than weight loss.
PCOS originates from a lack of estrogen and extra testosterone--weight gain, increased body hair, a lower voice, etc. are symptoms. You can't diet away an estrogen deficiency.
Its about time.
If, 30 years ago when I was 8 and struggling with early onset menses and an unexplained uptick in my weight I would have jumped at the chance to get my hormones under control.
Doctors then did not test for thyroid or hormonal malfunctions.
Instead, I have endured all the horrible effects that PCOS brings, including 5 years of fertility treatment.
I am not diabetic, but am presently on Metformin--and it makes a world of difference for PCOS issues.
By doctors being more aware of PCOS, women will have a better chance of treatment and avoidance of the detrimental effects PCOS can have on your life.
If my daughter shows the same signs I did, I will DEFINITELY get her on metformin so she does not have to struggle like I did.
As a woman with PCOS, I can vouch for the weight loss that I get with Metformin--this isn't about eating healthy, etc.--PCOS is a disease that is not treatable in itself, but we can mitigate some of the symptoms. I wish I had known about PCOS when I started gaining weight rapidly, even though I was not eating anything different.
We should at least give our daughters the option of preserving their fertility. I have read some of the posts on PCOS sites and to have a pre-and early teen girl describe how they feel when they are told at that young age that they will never have children is heartbreaking.
I can understand that the drug could be really helpful, but for those who'd rather not take a drug, I'd be interested in what a change of diet could do as well. Americans especially are known for our high-carb, high-sugar diets, and prolonged high blood sugar usually results in insulin resistance as well. Children are big on sugar too. I'm sure having them both doesn't help.
This isn't about dieting. PCOS interferes with your body's ability to metabolize sugar. I put on 30 pounds in one month, while doing nothing differently. I was at my ideal weight, was not overweight at all, and yet I got PCOS. After about 4 years of beating myself up, and 60 pounds later, I got on Metformin when the doctor saw the cysts in my ovaries. I lost 20 pounds in one month, while eating the same things as I had before. I have since lost another 25 pounds and am still losing more weight. Yes, I watch what I eat, but dieting alone is not the answer.
Perhaps not, but I have to ask, were you still eating to the doctor's recommendations? Doctors today still support the flawed recommendations of the government.
How much fruit were you eating? Indulging in any treats? Still eating grains of any kind? They all add up, even the foods that are "healthy". Especially the recommendations for servings of grains. Sugar is sugar is sugar. In fact, it's thought that even fake sugars cause an insulin response and can still be damaging. Aside from a small amount maybe from fruit, sugar is poison to the body. While we probably still need some (although you'll survive with no carbs, but not protein and fat interestingly enough), we don't need near as much as they say, and there's no need to metabolize something that isn't there.
There are numerous women with PCOS that have normal weight.
Diet has nothing to do with it. It is a response to hormones.
Weight gain is just one of many symptoms associated with PCOS.
I never said it had anything to do with weight, although insulin resistance can certainly affect it.
I'm saying diet can have something to do with it and maybe help with the treatment, as our weight gains and losses are very much related to the same hormone, insulin. If your body isn't using insulin properly in the first place, why then feed it the extra sugars that require it to respond with insulin? It would be a way to help control it by not making your body overproduce insulin. If you don't understand that diet is directly related to hormones, then you need to do more research on how our body uses carbs and what happens when we eat too much. That hormones and diet aren't related is very, very false.
Would you like to tell me how my carb intake will help the cysts in my ovaries that are visible with an ultrasound?
There are some things you can't diet away. If you look at PCOS on webmd, we don't know what causes it, and we can't cure it. We can only manage its symptoms.
PCOS is a result of low estrogen and elevated testosterone. The insulin resistance comes later.
No, it won't fix already existing cysts, and if you'd read the article, you'd realize that it wasn't about that. It was about using a drug in young girls that controls insulin. What diet will do is help control the production of insulin, and when you can get that under control, it effects how other hormones are produced, like testosterone. I do know people who are using lower-carb, no sugar (Primal/Paleo)to help treat it and are getting some relief, but I feel like there simply isn't enough research since they're diving into the diet part because doctors don't know anything. We could really use some numbers, and not just personal stories. But their hormones are finally leveling out some.
Thanks for some publicity for PCOS! This is a great breakthrough that researchers are trying to prevent the sydrome from developing further. Please, however, I cannot emphasize enough that this syndrome is about much more than infertility, however painful. PCOS can potentially doom a woman to diabetes, heart disease and depresssion.
I have classic PCOS. The emotional side effects from having PCOS really affected my self esteem. I started dieting when I was 8 years old. I really feel that the low fat diet craze back then made it worse with the added sugars in low fat foods. I would definitely would want 8 year old me to take metformin to stop the effects of PCOS.
I now have twin girls. I'm really worried that they are at high risk of developing PCOS. I do believe that Metformin is fairly safe with little side effects. However, I would prefer to avoid giving them preventative medication. Wouldn't exercise and a diabetic diet work the same as Metformin in helping your body contol insulin levels?
You can't diet away elevated testosterone. You might want to look at your daughters' hands--a longer 4th finger/ring finer than the index finger is a sign of elevated testosterone.
Giving a girl metformin at age 8 will help prevent infertility due to insulin resistance. However, if you read about PCOS on webmd, the lower your weight, the better the chances you have on conceiving. So yes, diet and exercise do playa a role. My doctor also switched me from Depo to a birth control pill because the birth control pills have estrogen in them. You might want to put them on the pill when they are old enough for contraceptives vs. another method.
It probably would help. I personally switched to the Primal WOE, similar to Paleo, a few months back felt immediate results for my own problems (not PCOS, but weight and other related problems). Google Mark's Daily Apple, click on the Forums page and type in PCOS in the search bar on the site to find all the threads related to it. Ignore his advertising, it makes it look gimmicky, but he's got a few books out and his own meal replacement stuff. The book is helpful if you go through with the change though. The people I met on the forums on the website are mostly pretty nice, and many of them also have PCOS.
It's a drastic change getting rid of grains, eliminating as much sugar as possible, and staying away from things like hormone filled conventional meat and soy. It's about eating the best whole, un-processed foods that we can afford. While we only have personal stories, many of them have found that their hormones are getting a little better under control.
I personally have been having the easiest time I've ever had losing my weight. On top of that, many of my insulin-related problems and needing to eat every 2 hours or I'd feel hypoglycemic is gone. Many others have seen improvement in their Type II diabetes. It can definitely help with insulin resistance, even with PCOS.
With the problems with side effects with diabetics taking Metformin why not increase drug sales and profits and to hell with the FDA doing anything about long term side effects. It still gets down to preventative treatments with diet and nutririon.
There are no 'preventative treatments' for PCOS, only management. Diet and nutrition do not affect hormones.
Diet and nutrition do affect hormones and is directly related to insulin. Do some research before you start spouting more lies to people who really need the help.
Maybe reading this will help explain what PCOS is:
I get the feeling many posters are assuming that PCOS is a diet/health issue. It is a much more involved problem.
I hope that you are right. Before I got PCOS, I was unsympathetic to overweight people--have a vegetable, get outside, and your problems will be solved. With my weight gain with PCOS, I have really had to struggle to lose weight, and am much less hasty to judge overweight people as lazy or undisciplined eaters. Not all overweight people have an illness requiring medication, but that possibility should be explored before we give overweight people platitudes about exercising and dieting.
For most overweight people, it's generally an issue of eating too much of the wrong things. Our kids are starting out early these days, but for those who become overweight it becomes a vicious cycle. Sugar is a big one, and our body treats it like poison, and when we eat too much of it our body responds by sending out tons of insulin to get rid of it right away. We only need a small amount of blood sugar and it's best to keep it a constant level with foods low in sugar itself instead of the small meals recommendation.
They can eat the bad stuff for a while with no consequence, but once it catches up to them the resulting insulin problems tend to make a person more hungry more often, and the bigger they get the more calories they need, making the problem worse because they're likely still overeating. I hate it when people blame Type II diabetes on being fat, when really they're both just symptoms. My mother is on Metaformin for that, but she'd feel so much better if she'd stop eating crap food. She still eats about 3 times as many carbs as I take in a day and her doctor is still okay with that! Those sort of diets also cause inflammation and damage to the heart and cause complications for things like your cholesterol. It really comes down to hormone problems, and it's related to diet. And if you've already got a hormone imbalance due to something else (like PCOS), you really need to watch what you eat. Control the insulin and you essentially control nearly everything else.
Unless there's a thyroid issue or similar, no, meds aren't needed. Diet and exercise can still work, but not the way doctors try and make us. Calorie restriction sucks if they try and use a low-fat diet as our bodies would really rather use that as fuel. It's a better, slow-burning source of energy. Couple that with the tendency to think we need to run ourselves to death and you can see why it fails most of the time. They should be focused on moving slowly with low-impact exercise to prevent further inflammation and gaining strength as muscle helps burn energy too.
CuddleMom, I never claimed it to be caused by diet or an issue because of diet. But the symptoms can be controlled by diet.
Demon Gray wolf,
I have PCOS. I tried hard to lose weight doing all of the possible diets. Nothing. I went on metformin and lost weight immediately with absolutely no lifestyle change. I still exercised and I still ate the same things. Being overweight was never about me eating the wrong things or being a couch potato. Because of allergies, everything I eat is made from scratch. There is no corn in my diet and I keep the grains to a minimum. I have always eaten lots of vegetables and fruits with chicken breasts and fish. PCOS caused my body to store everything I ate as fat. Metformin allows my body to process insulin effectively.
I have PCOS and my symptoms began to crop up around the time I was 5 with acne and hair that grew in a certain area way too early. The weight gain followed soon afterward and I wasn't diagnosed until I was about 23 (I'm 28 now) and read an article about PCOS. Part of my problem was that I was adopted and doctors dismissed the sypmtoms as being genetic.
I think it's wonderful that there seems to be more awareness of PCOS and especially how it can crop up in young girls. The doctor who diagnosed me was adamant that it was something I was born with. When I went on Metformin and the Glycemic Index diet, the extra weight just about melted away. Still, it took many years of being overweight and feeling unattractive, especially when the facial hair started cropping up in junior high. School was horrendous paired with a grandmother who constantly made an issue out of my weight and a father who ribbed me for my "hairyness" and acne. The years between my symptoms starting to appear and diagnosis were very long and I hope this can be prevented in other children.
As for the infertility, I suppose I was lucky. I had to use Chlomid and an Ovidrel shot, but both times I used the drug I got pregnant. I miscarried the first time but I'm 21 weeks along now and everything looks normal. I always had a defined waistline and my periods were pretty regular by the end of high school, though, so it can vary from woman to woman.
I have PCOS and metformin has been great for me. I wish my doctors had listened to me 20 years ago when I was gaining weight for no reason and couldn't get pregnant. Now, at 45 and early menopause, I'll never have the chance to get pregnant.
At least I've lost the weight.
Yay! More profit for Big Pharma! Let's convince everyone to treat their 8-year old daughters for fertility problems. Think of the money we'll make! I wonder what the real long term side effects of dumping drugs into these children will be.
If your daughter is at risk or has been diagnosed with PCOS, it might save many dollars down the road in fertility, IVF, etc., costs.
As for pharma, metformin is a very old drug and is now generic, so the cost would not be that great.
I think they would have chosen a more expensive drug if that was their intention, Met is a $4 perscription from Walmart.
@JCA - I agree. And yes it is a cheap drug (more than $4 if you're not glued to Walmart) BUT keep in mind Metformin IS NOT approved by the FDA as a treatment for PCOS. It is approved by the FDA as a Diabetes medication. So...what better way to get the $$ (even if its only a few bucks per person per month) from a wider range of consumers??
If you do not have or know someone close to you with pcos and have never done extensive research on the condition, if you don't realize that this syndrome has many facets, and finally, if you are unable to understanding to the suffers, please just stay off sites like this. Your ignorance is obvious to those who have spent years suffering with this condition and some who continue to research it after 20 years. It is NOT just a fertility issue. It is NOT just a fat issue. Diet does help with SOME of the symptoms, but not all and it is not a cure. Science is just beginning to scratch the surface on PCOS but they now know that PCOS is a genetic disorder that one is born with. No one suffering from PCOS ate their way to the disease. As the article states, the precursers are present in our bodies at a very early age. PCOS suffers are VERY tired of being told by people that do not have the condition, what they are doing wrong.
This is the STUPIDEST idea!!. Give me a break! I would love to know how they can claim those are the criteria for being "at risk" when they can't even clinically diagnose the disorder! I have been told I have PCOS by one doctor because they don't know what else it could be BUT my gyn said did a US and found no cysts and bloodwork to prove my ovaries are functioning perfectly. When the doctors don't have any ideas left they label you with PCOS, its their fall back because they don't want to say "I have no idea". Its commonly misdiagnosed while the real problem grows (i.e. Cushings Syndrome, etc).
I was put on Metformin by the first doctor and there are HORRIBLE side effects. It is causing me liver & kidney disfunction (dumping bilirubin in my kidneys). Any parent who would allow their 8 year old daughter to be put on this for a foolhardy science project needs to be slapped!!