These are truly the most idiotic and stereotypically racist statements one could make. What's the matter? Did one of "them" beat your ass and take your girl for some other stupid comment you made? Get a clue!

@Machine,

No, he probably just watches the news

lebbanothegreat

You should thank the Lord that breathing is an involuntary reflex...otherwise you'd suffocate!

I pity you. Truly I do.

http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/World/Story/STIStory_693500.html

guess the race!

lebbanothegreat

I see the oxygen deprivation has already set in...

...go away dude.

While JMs comment are speaking to the sterotype. Sadly, the stereotype exists because it is representative of a large portion of the group.

I know more whites that do that than blacks. It exists because racists ignore it when a white kid does it.

You should know more whites that do that because they are 80% of the population. Blacks are 12-15% of population but are over represented in many statistic. But it would be politically incorrect to cite them.

Sadly, the stereotype exists because it is representative of a large portion of the group

Biggest misconception of all time. Stereotypes exist because the population "in control" (ie--white, upper class) perpetuates them to maintain the upper hand, along with help from the media, and recirculates them to the general, ignorant population, such as yourself. Read a book.

The percentage of whites I know that do those things is higher than the percentage of blacks I know that do those things. Where I went to school, more than 15% of the students were black.

I wish I were black so I wouldn't be racist. Racism is a disease of the white man...

You have not lived in the world.

Stereotypes were often have a basis in fact. There is the stereotype that young black males commit a disproportionate amt of crime. The facts back it up. That however does not mean that every young black male or even the majority of black males are criminals.

However, if you are walking down a city street alone and have a choice of passing by a group of young black males or a group of Asian girls..which do you choose? You probably would make that decision based upon a stereotype that contains a large element of accuracy.

Show me the "facts" that back up the ridiculous rubbish you just posted. And by facts I don't mean your subjective observations, fool. Those don't count as facts.

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/race.cfm

Lots of social reasons, povery, education, discrimination, etc.....but these are the facts, not observations.

You just disproved your own point. You said you'd be afraid to walk by a group of black guys at night. Some studies estimate that 1/3 blacks are poor, making them more prone to crime. Why aren't you afraid of all poor people?

You're just a racist trying to hide behind excuses elaborated with fancy numbers, nothing more.

Not rascist at all. I do see that you do not dispute the "fancy numbers" i supplied. If black do commit a disproportionate amt of violent crime (and the numbers say that they do) it is not because of their race. It is due to many social issues that I mentioned above. However, that does not change the facts.

I didn't even look at your numbers, therefore I didn't bother to dispute them. Not worth my time.

"That does not change the facts"... Still confused as to what "facts" you're referring to.

ref post 214- you asked me to show you "facts" ..right before you called me a fool, which preceded you calling me a rascist in 216.

Oh, you mean the payouts they used to hand out to schools to have soda machines in them? It was to get kids hooked at an early age. Sugar can be a dangerous addiction, too. There should be no room in schools for such things. If a parent wants to give their child sugar or high fat foods, it should be the parents' responsibility to allow access to it, not the school's. The school has an obligation to educate and better its students. It would be hypocritical to say in health class that drinking soda everyday is bad, yet be sold in school.

"Sugar can be a dangerous addition" ...makes me laugh.......Getting poor guidance, or no guidance, from home can be much more dangerous than a little sugar.

But then you would have to accept that children should be patented by....parents.....and not the school.

Children should learn to make right choices from their parents. I agree with removing candy/soda machines from schools. If my children want a soda with their lunch and they are healthy, I will send it with them.

I think it's the wrong way to look at the issue because inner city schools have a different geographical placement than rural schools.

For example, my High School was in a big city, and after school (kind of like the Archie comics and Happy Days TV show) the kids met at the malt shop. You'd stop, get a shake, a root beer float, maybe some fries and hang out for a bit on the walk home.

I'd venture to guess that urban areas have higher incidences of soda consumption than rural areas simply because there are more places to get it than in rural areas. There's also the small matter that the school bus won't wait at the malt shop for the kids to hang out.

So, could it be that it's not race, but geography making the difference? Urban areas are different from suburban areas, and rural areas are another difference as well. Of course a headline that reads "farm boys drink more soda in school than city slickers" wouldn't be much of a headline, would it?

I would characterize my current abode as urban. I can quite literally walk across the street to a fast food place, or a convenience store, or a drug store, and score any brand of soda you could care to name. That was not true when I lived in the suburbs, in fact the nearest store was well over five miles away making it a trip, and not a walk.

The reason I don't think schools should ban soda is this:

Schools are about preparing kids for real life. Real life choices and decisions are going to include your food and drink choices. The minute a kid in an urban school leaves the grounds with the chain link fence and concertina wire, that kid is in the real world where every other store down the road sells (gasp!) soda pop.

Making it a forbidden fruit to reduce consumption is something anybody who knows the slightest bit of what it's like to be a kid told "no" will realize makes them want it more.

I have no doubt why the big soda companies haven't opposed this much. Their marketing departments probably told them "THIS IS GREAT!! KIDS WILL WANT IT TEN TIMES AS MUCH!!"

Most kids get on a bus after school. I dont think there is a malt shop on a bus.

A lot of kids do not get on a bus. Some get rides and some walk. Some even ride bikes.

Because a self-reported study shows that there was a larger drop in soda consumption among black students (0.19 servings) than there was among white students (0.9 servings)?

Did you even bother to read the article before you posted that?

Shawn

Information that is sorted by race is not in and of itself rascist. You are taking your political correctness a little too seriously.

Shawn,

This isn't racist....it a statistical fact. That what stats do, they break down info acoording to groups and their actions. It isn't a criticism, but merely a statement.

The study provides data to support that more black teens in schools choose soda over another beverage more than whites....so indeed a ban would in effect , affect blacks more. Stats don't care what color or sex or culture you are....the only provide the raw figures of research.

lighten up.

I'm just curious how significant a difference of one-tenth of a serving really is. Is there a difference in soda consumption between white and black students? Obviously there is (according to the self-reporting study). But is it really that significant?

I was wondering the same exact thing just this morning..

These are the programs that are more important to our government, over SS, Medicare, and Medicaid. This is the type of crap that eats up billions of our tax dollars, yet, the government continues to fund it and will cut your medicare first.

I'm sure you've heard about government funding the examination of turtle crossings.

This stuff is important, you being able to sustain life is not (according to government).

I've always wanted to see a complete (and legit) list of every single thing the government sends federal dollars towards. I guarantee there is plenty of other BS to cut before SS, medicare, and medicaid. This being one of them. The study provides absolutely zero substance, but costs us millions in time, resources, etc.

Millions of dollars? This is a self reported study, which means they handed out a bunch of questionnaires and kids filled 'em out and handed 'em back. Only a defense contractor could figure out a way to charge a million dollars for that.

Incidentally, I have submitted a grant application to study the effects of texting while eating green lipped mussels 300 feet underwater off the coast of New Zealand, but our research is being hampered by the fact that there is no cell phone capable of sending or receiving texts at that depth.

Stimulus dollars at work

@Elyasm

, but our research is being hampered by the fact that there is no cell phone capable of sending or receiving texts at that depth.

That's because you won't let them put a cell tower in YOUR yard.

Did I miss something? Did it say in the article that it's a federally funded study?

What would be the damages?

No one said you couldn't drink coke or pepsi....only that schools won't provide it for purchase to students.

Weekend Filler

Ok...get rid of the porn talk. Cum is actually spelled come.....;).

Sickle Cell affects some Sicilians, they aren't black.

lebbanothegreat- that's debatable! (lol)

It may be that the 50-calories-a-day reduction is too small to change students' body weight, or it could be that students are compensating for the drop in soda consumption by increasing their intake of other foods or beverages, the researchers said.

Wow, no duh PTA. Way to over regulate for no reason. More gym class is what is needed not a minor calorie decrease. They ban soda but I guarantee those schools still sell nachos, cheese fries, pizza, burgers, cookies, pasta and sweetened drinks (which are the same in caloric intake as soda btw).

A colorblind society is one that has its collective head stuck in the sand. There are important biological differences between races and studies like this allow us to personalize medical practices to best suit the needs of each individual. Noting differences between races is not in and of itself racist.

Would like to see a study on how many of the kids are on free and reduced price lunch, seems to me if they have $5 for vending machine then they can pay for their lunch.

Whenever I was on free or reduced lunch I never had even a dollar for the vending machine. Maybe the machines are used by the ones not on assistance?

i am glad the assistance was there for you. i was lucky enough not to need it. i am happy that the program is in our schools due to the fact some children dont eat other then school lunches, but working in a school i see alot of kids using them, and my school is 95% free and reduced

Sounds like a Private school, not a public school...Big difference...

The only difference between allison's school and mine was the uniforms, and I went to public school. And some public schools do require uniforms.

We didn't have vending machines in the school until high school, and those sold fruit juice (not "juice cocktails") instead of sodas. We were not allowed to leave campus to buy fast food for lunch. Until middle school, we had recess morning and afternoon, and plenty of time to play at lunch. In middle school, we only had a break at lunch, but it still allowed plenty of time to both eat AND work off some energy. In high school, we had organized intramural sports at lunch time. We were not allowed to carry snacks or drinks to class. The water fountain sufficed.

nashvillebill, i went to catholic school but my parents taught in the public schools. where i lived all schools wore uniforms, public and private. and no schools had vending machines. this thread is about obesity, not quality of education.