I think it is important to note that the reason that these deaths are relatively uncommon is that it's rare that a true alcoholic (someone whose body has developed a physiological dependence upon alcohol to the point of experiencing medically significant withdrawal symptoms) would ever actually go without alcohol long enough to produce a grand mal seizure. That being said, once seizures begin, people DO die during alcohol withdrawal. This is why people who are serious about recovery usually have to check into a medically-supervised detox and rehabilitation program. During detox, doctors monitor the person and administer anti-seizure medications to minimize the risk. That being said, even under the most ideal medically-supervised circumstances, detoxing is very hard on the body and involves a lot of nausea, diarrhea, etc. In the a situation such as Amy Winehouse's, when someone has been abusing multiple substances over a period of years, it's also important to remember the permanent damage that has already been done to her heart, liver, kidneys, etc. It's quite possible that she was legitimately trying to recover, and that it was just too late. Her body might have been just too weakened by her past use to withstand the further stress of the withdrawal/detox process. At any rate, it's a sad thing for her family and friends.
For being a nurse, you seem very callous with your reply, nurses safe lives (shouldn't your tag read 'nurses save lives'????) and hwilson. It is extremely expensive to detox in a program, ESPECIALLY when you have no health insurance. I have detoxed four times, once under medicated supervision (at my sisters house). When you don't have a job for a year and a half and no health insurance, detox programs are, for the most part, out of reach. I haven't ever declared bankruptcy and don't ever plan to but I have my share of debt I carry around based on a health care system who favors those who have health insurance. Sure, I get treated when things become so bad I feel I am going to lose my job if I withdrawal one more day in front of my coworkers, but to the tune of $700 additional debt per visit.
I continue to drink alcohol to feed my body just the minimum I feel is safe for me to go to my contract and perform my duties - to the best of my ability. I have suffered visible, audible and psychological symptoms of alcohol while at work and have found ways to self-medicate to alleviate as many of these symptoms as I can. Some alcoholics are alcoholics as a form of self-medication to take care of another more deeply rooted medical or psychological problem, as is my case. I went to a psychiatrist but abandoned him when I had only $32 of the $35 required to have a visit and they refused to accept this shortage of $3 and bill the rest - of the total $70 visit. I walked out and haven't returned to see him. BTW, his diagnosis, while it may have been corrected, was mis-treated to the point I could only work for one hour at work for a day after suffering several days living within my own skin due to the reaction from the meds he had prescribed. I left work after one hour the final day I took those pills, it got so bad.
I went to the hospital when my BP was 160/120 BEGGING for help from the withdrawal symptoms, help which I eventually received. Took some serious explanation of who I am and how aware of who I am I am. I make good money now but this has not been the case in recent memory. I don't have health insurance and cannot afford; 1. to take the days off necessary, out of the blue, to go into a detox program and 2. the additional burden on my already strained budget.
There are those of us who hate being addicted to alcohol, however, alcohol has the effect of shutting down thought processes which could drive a normal person insane. I drink to shut down my brain or to give myself some peace from constant self-reflection.
I admit I have several medical problems which conspire to make me who I am but I feel I am a good man, a descent person and as productive member of society as my afflictions allow me to be. The last thing I need is some nurse on their high horse, when I do arrive for help, who thinks they know more about me than I do, somebody who is overwhelmed (perhaps obsessed) with the input of living within their own body and listening to the aches, feeling the shakes, feeling the eyes burn, knowing their liver isn't doing well due to the color and smell of their own urine and realizing the whole house of cards could fall apart at any given moment because somebody at work recognizes what is going on with EMPLOYEE X and I get fired.
It's not as easy as you might think. I KNOW I need to detox. In light of not being able to justify the expenditure because my kids payment of child support is more important, knowing if I die, this ends as well - I challenge you to put yourself in my skin for about a month, think about the things I do and function as well as I do and TOP that with a comment like...
Best solution, don't drink.
Once your already drinking the problem becomes exponentially more difficult and stressful.
I am not looking for the easy way out and I don't WANT to drink anymore and there are some deep rooted psychological events which have predispositioned me to be where I am at today but I also believe I am a reasonable man who is not in any sort of denial. Society puts a tremendous amount of pressure on people to fit the status qua.
I am a nurse who is very experienced in working with alcohol withdrawal. The pain in your post is clear. You know you need help. You are afraid to seek help because you need your job to make your child support payments. A detox program is not the only way to sobriety. Have you tried AA? Any physician can prescribe medication that will help you thru withdrawal. No, it is not simple--it is hard, painful work. But you can do it.
Best solution - don't get sick so you don't have to be treated by a nurse who can't even spell
Best solution - don't seek treatment from a nurse who cannot comprehend the original question. Since the topic of the article is the dangers of withdrawal caused by stopping alcohol without proper supervision, "don't drink" is the problem in this case, not the solution
I suppose your best solution to birth defects - don't be born
This headline isn't ridiculous at all, but the first sentence of your post is. For a nurse, you a extremely insensitive and quick to judge. It is probably safe to assume that the majority of educated people in this country don't realize that it is possible to die from alcohol withdrawal.
Please google "HAMS". Have you heard of HAMS? It is the Alcohol Harm Reduction Network and has saved my life from what you are going through. It is free, and all you need to do is just read it. You will be amazed, at least I was.
In my case, I could no longer afford ER visits to detox and learned that I could simply taper off instead. With a little discipline, It worked! I learned about why there are withdraw symptoms. I learned that I actually had several choices as to my life and alcohol.
You are still well enough to go to work and to write intelligently, so please read about HAMS.
Also, you should be taking lots of thiamin every day.
and since everything a celebrity does that anyone else witnesses nowadays is examined under a public microscope... she had even more reasons to try to do it alone... sad but true...
whoever decided that celebrities are far game in the press just because publicity also helps their career wasn't thinking very well...
@Peteroid: Amy Winehouse. Embarrassed. Seriously? (Yes, this is sarcasm speaking.) You obviously haven't seen or read a single article about her, neighbor.
No kidding. Not even a high school newspaper would allow a typo in the headline to be published. How unprofessional. Just shows how little goes into MSNBC journalism...
She was a known heroin addict and a drunk. And if the truth ever comes out it will be shown that it was the heroin that ruined her mind and body. Well that and the fact that she did it to herself. So ultimately she killed herself by using heroin and alcohol. It was her choice all along and she choose poorly. Too bad, so sad.
It's amazing how everybody tries to sugar coat reality when a celebrity is involved.
Kaliber & St. Pauli N/A are quite decent. O'Douls and Sharps are modeled after their already tasteless counterparts (like Bud & Miller Lite) and thus have little flavor.
I suspect you've just been drinking the wrong stuff.
And by the way, I HAVE heard of beer flavored ice cream, candy AND snack chips. The ice cream is supposedly quite tasty. You're also forgetting Ginger ALE and Root BEER both of which brewed as they were originally are quite extraordinary and contain no alcohol.
I was shocked to see the title of this story. Alcohol withdrawal is THE most deadly withdrawal of any drug. I have worked in correctional health (jails) for 20 years and other than suicide prevention nothing is more critical than alcohol withdrawal. Benzodiazepine withdrawal is a far second (Valium, Xanex, etc). Heroin, meth, cocaine, opiates--the withdrawal is miserable but doesn't kill you. No idea if this is what caused her death, but want people to know that this is serious and longstanding alcoholics should only detox under medical supervision.
Just The Facts: Again, no idea what caused this rare talent's death. I simply want people to know that even a 27 yr old can die from ETOH withdrawal. As for suicide in jails--people (even people you may know and love) make stupid mistakes sometimes. And those people can be so ashamed that they would rather die than face the people they love. That is the face of many suicides in jails. And BTW I agree with you, there is no such thing as a beer that tastes good...
I like black coffee. No cream, no sugar, no flavoring. I think it tastes great. My brother accused me of lying about it, one time, and made the claim I just drink it black to prove I'm a tough guy. He said that nobody likes black coffee.
As a viner who has been suspended once or twice, I would suggest you tone it down a bit... The attacks on other viners are a violation of the CoH. You may not agree with them- but that's no reason to attack them.
I think she was a tortured soul that could not deal with the fame & publicity...it probably started to calm her nerves & escalated to full blown addiction. My husband is alcoholic & can't go more than 1 day without a drink. He wants to stop but has been drinking since his teens & he is now in his 40's. We have no insurance or $$ for fancy rehab centers. For all the money this country wastes it seems that there should be affordable or free rehab centers...but most people look down on addicts. I wish that the healthcare plan that I voted for with Obama will hurry up & happen but it looks like D.C. cannot do anything in a hurry. I think all of Congress should do without healthcare benefits until the whole country can have them.
Alcoholics would need to be put in the same type of rubber room as a heroin addict if forced to withdraw from it without any type of medical intervention and yes, they could die from the withdraw from these substances.
This article is another attempt to minimize the problem of alcohol addiction and the prevalence of it in our society.
Not true, Red Wolf. While dangerous, I have done it three times myself because I simply ran out of money. It is painful, the nightmares are horrible, you don't feel good and can barely walk or talk and I have nearly knocked myself out of bed from the muscle spasms but it IT possible to detox without supervision AND without medications....
Takes about three days, in my case, to get over the nasty stuff.
...having said this, I would NOT recommend doing what I described above. I knew the risks but there wasn't anything available, in my mind. Refer to my earlier post on this subject.
I appreciate your knowledge and appreciation of the subject matter.
THIS IS A JOKE! Just because the family said that she died of withdrawal doesnt mean it is true...Wouldnt you want to at least wait and see what the official medial report on her death has to say first?
So what if she is gone, what good did she do with the short years she had....nothing productive and positive just self destruction and we should feel sorry for her family? Where the heck were they when she needed them and i'm not talkign about now I'm talking about years ago. One less druggie with world wide fanfare and attention is all the better for the youth.
WOW! U r very quick to judge others Skal1976. U don't know what her family did for her. U and I both know nothing about her except what was on the NEWS. She was an individual with a problem. A problem that was stronger than her. Noone has the right to put her down for that! Do ur friends come to u with their problems. I hope not if that is your reaction to a sickness.
I am 82 days sober now, and you absolutely can die from alcohol withdrawal. I was so addicted that I pretty much needed booze from the second I woke up to the second I went to sleep (passed out!). When I abstained, I would get the shakes, aural hallucinations, and in most instances 'grand mal' seizures. It's a scary, scary thing.
I am 82 days sober now, and you absolutely can die from alcohol withdrawal. I was so addicted that I pretty much needed booze from the second I woke up to the second I went to sleep (passed out!). When I abstained, I would get the shakes, aural hallucinations, and in most instances 'grand mal' seizures. It's a scary, scary thing.
With 15 years sobriety, please do not go to AA to stop drinking. It is a cult with a success rate of 1-2%. As a prior member of AA I can confirm these numbers.
She wouldn't have died from marijuana! Alcohol is a killer, directly and indirectly! Strips the body of vital nutrients and water! Brain wrecker!! And it's legal!!...ignorant laws!!
I will first confess that I only read a few responses. When I came to the ignorant nurse who decided not drinking was the solution, I could take no more. I too am an RN with my bachelors, working on my masters in chemical dependency. I too am an addict. I haven't used "drugs" since 2006, however, I have used the drug of alcohol up until 4 days before 4:55 AM ON 10/03/2011 when I rolled over in bed and found the love of my life had passed away from alcohol withdrawal.
Unless you have been there, you will NEVER know what it feels like to watch someone struggle with alcoholism who only wants to lead a normal life. Alcoholism is a disease. Would we be making fun of someone with diabetes or cancer because they are dying from the disease, no. All we can do is love and support our friends. Hopefully they find their "bottom" before death does.
I find it interesting that nobody has mentioned the use of mega-niacin for withdrawing from alcohol, which works very well in this capacity. The flush is easily tolerable when the alternative is the shakes and/or chilblains. This still requires supervision, although you might be able to get by with your friendly neighborhood schizophrenic who uses several grams of it per day him/herself and knows the complications of crisis use of this vitamin.
Had Amy W known, she could have contacted the British orthomolecular medicine society, they'd have told her how to withdraw if they knew she wouldn't go to the hospital.
I think it is important to note that the reason that these deaths are relatively uncommon is that it's rare that a true alcoholic (someone whose body has developed a physiological dependence upon alcohol to the point of experiencing medically significant withdrawal symptoms) would ever actually go without alcohol long enough to produce a grand mal seizure. That being said, once seizures begin, people DO die during alcohol withdrawal. This is why people who are serious about recovery usually have to check into a medically-supervised detox and rehabilitation program. During detox, doctors monitor the person and administer anti-seizure medications to minimize the risk. That being said, even under the most ideal medically-supervised circumstances, detoxing is very hard on the body and involves a lot of nausea, diarrhea, etc. In the a situation such as Amy Winehouse's, when someone has been abusing multiple substances over a period of years, it's also important to remember the permanent damage that has already been done to her heart, liver, kidneys, etc. It's quite possible that she was legitimately trying to recover, and that it was just too late. Her body might have been just too weakened by her past use to withstand the further stress of the withdrawal/detox process. At any rate, it's a sad thing for her family and friends.
Yes, it was a very sad event. While I was never a fan of Winehouse, seeing any human slowly decay like she did is a terrible thing.
I doubt anyone was surprised by her death. This is what happens when you live as though you have no limits.
I hope Lohan is paying attention.
This headline is ridiculous! Of course you can die of alcohol withdraw. I'm a nurse and have seen it many times. Best solution, don't drink.
And when you realize you have a problem, don't try to slug it out on your own. There are people who are willing - glad, even - to help.
For being a nurse, you seem very callous with your reply, nurses safe lives (shouldn't your tag read 'nurses save lives'????) and hwilson. It is extremely expensive to detox in a program, ESPECIALLY when you have no health insurance. I have detoxed four times, once under medicated supervision (at my sisters house). When you don't have a job for a year and a half and no health insurance, detox programs are, for the most part, out of reach. I haven't ever declared bankruptcy and don't ever plan to but I have my share of debt I carry around based on a health care system who favors those who have health insurance. Sure, I get treated when things become so bad I feel I am going to lose my job if I withdrawal one more day in front of my coworkers, but to the tune of $700 additional debt per visit.
I continue to drink alcohol to feed my body just the minimum I feel is safe for me to go to my contract and perform my duties - to the best of my ability. I have suffered visible, audible and psychological symptoms of alcohol while at work and have found ways to self-medicate to alleviate as many of these symptoms as I can. Some alcoholics are alcoholics as a form of self-medication to take care of another more deeply rooted medical or psychological problem, as is my case. I went to a psychiatrist but abandoned him when I had only $32 of the $35 required to have a visit and they refused to accept this shortage of $3 and bill the rest - of the total $70 visit. I walked out and haven't returned to see him. BTW, his diagnosis, while it may have been corrected, was mis-treated to the point I could only work for one hour at work for a day after suffering several days living within my own skin due to the reaction from the meds he had prescribed. I left work after one hour the final day I took those pills, it got so bad.
I went to the hospital when my BP was 160/120 BEGGING for help from the withdrawal symptoms, help which I eventually received. Took some serious explanation of who I am and how aware of who I am I am. I make good money now but this has not been the case in recent memory. I don't have health insurance and cannot afford; 1. to take the days off necessary, out of the blue, to go into a detox program and 2. the additional burden on my already strained budget.
There are those of us who hate being addicted to alcohol, however, alcohol has the effect of shutting down thought processes which could drive a normal person insane. I drink to shut down my brain or to give myself some peace from constant self-reflection.
I admit I have several medical problems which conspire to make me who I am but I feel I am a good man, a descent person and as productive member of society as my afflictions allow me to be. The last thing I need is some nurse on their high horse, when I do arrive for help, who thinks they know more about me than I do, somebody who is overwhelmed (perhaps obsessed) with the input of living within their own body and listening to the aches, feeling the shakes, feeling the eyes burn, knowing their liver isn't doing well due to the color and smell of their own urine and realizing the whole house of cards could fall apart at any given moment because somebody at work recognizes what is going on with EMPLOYEE X and I get fired.
It's not as easy as you might think. I KNOW I need to detox. In light of not being able to justify the expenditure because my kids payment of child support is more important, knowing if I die, this ends as well - I challenge you to put yourself in my skin for about a month, think about the things I do and function as well as I do and TOP that with a comment like...
Best solution, don't drink.
Once your already drinking the problem becomes exponentially more difficult and stressful.
I am not looking for the easy way out and I don't WANT to drink anymore and there are some deep rooted psychological events which have predispositioned me to be where I am at today but I also believe I am a reasonable man who is not in any sort of denial. Society puts a tremendous amount of pressure on people to fit the status qua.
Sometimes, it's not that simple.
Aaron,
I am a nurse who is very experienced in working with alcohol withdrawal. The pain in your post is clear. You know you need help. You are afraid to seek help because you need your job to make your child support payments. A detox program is not the only way to sobriety. Have you tried AA? Any physician can prescribe medication that will help you thru withdrawal. No, it is not simple--it is hard, painful work. But you can do it.
Best solution - don't get sick so you don't have to be treated by a nurse who can't even spell
Best solution - don't seek treatment from a nurse who cannot comprehend the original question. Since the topic of the article is the dangers of withdrawal caused by stopping alcohol without proper supervision, "don't drink" is the problem in this case, not the solution
I suppose your best solution to birth defects - don't be born
UNCALLED FOR BERNIE!!!!
This headline isn't ridiculous at all, but the first sentence of your post is. For a nurse, you a extremely insensitive and quick to judge. It is probably safe to assume that the majority of educated people in this country don't realize that it is possible to die from alcohol withdrawal.
Arron,
I feel for you, Bro.
Please google "HAMS". Have you heard of HAMS? It is the Alcohol Harm Reduction Network and has saved my life from what you are going through. It is free, and all you need to do is just read it. You will be amazed, at least I was.
In my case, I could no longer afford ER visits to detox and learned that I could simply taper off instead. With a little discipline, It worked! I learned about why there are withdraw symptoms. I learned that I actually had several choices as to my life and alcohol.
You are still well enough to go to work and to write intelligently, so please read about HAMS.
Also, you should be taking lots of thiamin every day.
Hope this helps you.
If so, why was she alone while detoxing?
"If so, why was she alone while detoxing?"
embarrassment is one possibility...
and since everything a celebrity does that anyone else witnesses nowadays is examined under a public microscope... she had even more reasons to try to do it alone... sad but true...
whoever decided that celebrities are far game in the press just because publicity also helps their career wasn't thinking very well...
@Peteroid: Amy Winehouse. Embarrassed. Seriously? (Yes, this is sarcasm speaking.) You obviously haven't seen or read a single article about her, neighbor.
Maybe spell WITHDRAWAL correctly...
No kidding. Not even a high school newspaper would allow a typo in the headline to be published. How unprofessional. Just shows how little goes into MSNBC journalism...
Maybe spell WITHDRAWAL correctly...
She was a known heroin addict and a drunk. And if the truth ever comes out it will be shown that it was the heroin that ruined her mind and body. Well that and the fact that she did it to herself. So ultimately she killed herself by using heroin and alcohol. It was her choice all along and she choose poorly. Too bad, so sad.
It's amazing how everybody tries to sugar coat reality when a celebrity is involved.
I didn't notice anyone sugar coating anything.
She was indeed a talent, reminded me of Janis Joplin, never expected her to die at the same age.
So many lives destroyed by drug and alcohol abuse.
If you decide to drink don't drink for the drunk, drink for the taste. If you don't like the taste don't drink.
There is no use for hard drugs, the odds are against you if you use them.
"And there is no such thing as beer that actually tastes good"
I and 6000 years of civilization, beg to differ.
Kaliber & St. Pauli N/A are quite decent. O'Douls and Sharps are modeled after their already tasteless counterparts (like Bud & Miller Lite) and thus have little flavor.
I suspect you've just been drinking the wrong stuff.
And by the way, I HAVE heard of beer flavored ice cream, candy AND snack chips. The ice cream is supposedly quite tasty. You're also forgetting Ginger ALE and Root BEER both of which brewed as they were originally are quite extraordinary and contain no alcohol.
By suggesting to the world that your daughter died of the opposite thing that common sense would say helped her kill herself.
Just no Facts
There are very good beers, and wines. Maybe no to you, but then maybe you don't like carrots, or peas.
Everyone has different taste buds.
If beer doesn't taste good to you don't drink it.
I haven't found a any NA beers that taste good, but I don't drink them.
I usually keep 2 or 3 different kinds of beers in the fridge a 6 pack may last me a week or three.
I buy craft beers, some aren't so good but many are really good. As far as I know there are no NA Beers in the Craft style.
Just
Sorry no, I couldn't. Too many loonies on the internet.
I'm sure if I could have seen your face, I might have laughed. Does that need to be rephrased? [;^)}
I was shocked to see the title of this story. Alcohol withdrawal is THE most deadly withdrawal of any drug. I have worked in correctional health (jails) for 20 years and other than suicide prevention nothing is more critical than alcohol withdrawal. Benzodiazepine withdrawal is a far second (Valium, Xanex, etc). Heroin, meth, cocaine, opiates--the withdrawal is miserable but doesn't kill you. No idea if this is what caused her death, but want people to know that this is serious and longstanding alcoholics should only detox under medical supervision.
Just The Facts: Again, no idea what caused this rare talent's death. I simply want people to know that even a 27 yr old can die from ETOH withdrawal. As for suicide in jails--people (even people you may know and love) make stupid mistakes sometimes. And those people can be so ashamed that they would rather die than face the people they love. That is the face of many suicides in jails. And BTW I agree with you, there is no such thing as a beer that tastes good...
I like black coffee. No cream, no sugar, no flavoring. I think it tastes great. My brother accused me of lying about it, one time, and made the claim I just drink it black to prove I'm a tough guy. He said that nobody likes black coffee.
What a bunch of BS.
Screw you, EconomyBabbo
As a viner who has been suspended once or twice, I would suggest you tone it down a bit... The attacks on other viners are a violation of the CoH. You may not agree with them- but that's no reason to attack them.
Just trying to help you out. :-)
Reported.
I think she was a tortured soul that could not deal with the fame & publicity...it probably started to calm her nerves & escalated to full blown addiction. My husband is alcoholic & can't go more than 1 day without a drink. He wants to stop but has been drinking since his teens & he is now in his 40's. We have no insurance or $$ for fancy rehab centers. For all the money this country wastes it seems that there should be affordable or free rehab centers...but most people look down on addicts. I wish that the healthcare plan that I voted for with Obama will hurry up & happen but it looks like D.C. cannot do anything in a hurry. I think all of Congress should do without healthcare benefits until the whole country can have them.
Alcoholics would need to be put in the same type of rubber room as a heroin addict if forced to withdraw from it without any type of medical intervention and yes, they could die from the withdraw from these substances.
This article is another attempt to minimize the problem of alcohol addiction and the prevalence of it in our society.
Not true, Red Wolf. While dangerous, I have done it three times myself because I simply ran out of money. It is painful, the nightmares are horrible, you don't feel good and can barely walk or talk and I have nearly knocked myself out of bed from the muscle spasms but it IT possible to detox without supervision AND without medications....
Takes about three days, in my case, to get over the nasty stuff.
...having said this, I would NOT recommend doing what I described above. I knew the risks but there wasn't anything available, in my mind. Refer to my earlier post on this subject.
I appreciate your knowledge and appreciation of the subject matter.
MSNBC finally allowing comments on an Amy Winehouse story!
THIS IS A JOKE! Just because the family said that she died of withdrawal doesnt mean it is true...Wouldnt you want to at least wait and see what the official medial report on her death has to say first?
So what if she is gone, what good did she do with the short years she had....nothing productive and positive just self destruction and we should feel sorry for her family? Where the heck were they when she needed them and i'm not talkign about now I'm talking about years ago. One less druggie with world wide fanfare and attention is all the better for the youth.
WOW! U r very quick to judge others Skal1976. U don't know what her family did for her. U and I both know nothing about her except what was on the NEWS. She was an individual with a problem. A problem that was stronger than her. Noone has the right to put her down for that! Do ur friends come to u with their problems. I hope not if that is your reaction to a sickness.
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U worked in health in Corrections and you can't spell Xanax! God, this is scary!
Who cares how anything is spelt. It's the concern and the thought that counts. The world isn't perfect and neither r we.
Maybe she wanted to die. Maybe she was tired of fighting. Maybe we will never know.
I am 82 days sober now, and you absolutely can die from alcohol withdrawal. I was so addicted that I pretty much needed booze from the second I woke up to the second I went to sleep (passed out!). When I abstained, I would get the shakes, aural hallucinations, and in most instances 'grand mal' seizures. It's a scary, scary thing.
I am 82 days sober now, and you absolutely can die from alcohol withdrawal. I was so addicted that I pretty much needed booze from the second I woke up to the second I went to sleep (passed out!). When I abstained, I would get the shakes, aural hallucinations, and in most instances 'grand mal' seizures. It's a scary, scary thing.
With 15 years sobriety, please do not go to AA to stop drinking. It is a cult with a success rate of 1-2%. As a prior member of AA I can confirm these numbers.
She wouldn't have died from marijuana! Alcohol is a killer, directly and indirectly! Strips the body of vital nutrients and water! Brain wrecker!! And it's legal!!...ignorant laws!!
I will first confess that I only read a few responses. When I came to the ignorant nurse who decided not drinking was the solution, I could take no more. I too am an RN with my bachelors, working on my masters in chemical dependency. I too am an addict. I haven't used "drugs" since 2006, however, I have used the drug of alcohol up until 4 days before 4:55 AM ON 10/03/2011 when I rolled over in bed and found the love of my life had passed away from alcohol withdrawal.
Unless you have been there, you will NEVER know what it feels like to watch someone struggle with alcoholism who only wants to lead a normal life. Alcoholism is a disease. Would we be making fun of someone with diabetes or cancer because they are dying from the disease, no. All we can do is love and support our friends. Hopefully they find their "bottom" before death does.
I find it interesting that nobody has mentioned the use of mega-niacin for withdrawing from alcohol, which works very well in this capacity. The flush is easily tolerable when the alternative is the shakes and/or chilblains. This still requires supervision, although you might be able to get by with your friendly neighborhood schizophrenic who uses several grams of it per day him/herself and knows the complications of crisis use of this vitamin.
Had Amy W known, she could have contacted the British orthomolecular medicine society, they'd have told her how to withdraw if they knew she wouldn't go to the hospital.