sane can be said for the cults in the US, like christians and catholics. the pedophile catholic cult... all the christian ministers who have raped kids...

what did you say about moral high ground?

for the truly interested.

http://www.amazon.com/Opium-Diamonds-Empire-Nancy-Turner/dp/1450201717/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312388954&sr=8-1

not for the intellectually lazy.

HIV does NOT cause AIDS.

AIDS is a syndrome of nutritional deficiencies and excessive toxicity.

HIV virus has NEVER been isolated. The HIV test is an antibody test, these antibodies are produced when you are sick.

The same antibody response would have you HIV negative in the US and positive in Africa.

This book is written by a Harvard educated MD and meticulously documented. NOT FOR THE INTELLECTUALLY LAZY.

What a kick in the A$$ when/if you figure out that we really live in the twilight zone.

oh well I am eating my brazil nuts.

Where's the HIV?

In accepting Gallo's AIDS virus hypothesis, researchers and physicians took for granted that Gallo had isolated a unique retrovirus, HIV, and that the proteins he used to construct the HIV antibody tests came from pure isolates of the virus. Since the announcement of Gallo's discovery of HIV however, a number of scientists have raised serious questions about what have been accepted as HIV isolates.

According to their claims, HIV, unlike other viruses, has never been isolated as an independent stable particle. These scientists assert that electron microscope pictures or micrographs of all HIV isolates originally produced by Gallo and by other AIDS researchers since show some objects that look like retroviruses along with a number of other microbial objects that clearly are not viruses, and that among these, the retrovirus-like objects called HIV are only observed in cell cultures that have been stimulated by certain chemicals.

Isolation is the only direct and unambiguous evidence of a virus, and isolation of a virus from the uncultured plasma of a patient is the only proof that a person has an active viral infection. Cultures are artificial laboratory environments that contain replicating microorganisms or cells.

Normally, true isolation can be achieved without difficulty as people with an active viral infection will have lots of viruses in their plasma. This is not the case with HIV. In fact, there is no evidence that anyone has ever found what is called HIV in fresh plasma. Instead, AIDS researchers are only able to find what they call HIV when plasma or immune cells (co-cultures) and stimulating chemicals are added to cultures. Since artificially stimulated cultures can induce viral DNA to produce viruses even when the patient's plasma contains no virus, finding virus under these circumstances does not constitute evidence that patient plasma contains virus. True virus isolation requires using fresh, uncultured plasma.

When virus can be isolated from the fresh plasma of 99% of people who test positive in validation studies, the test can be considered 99% accurate. When claims of co-culture isolation are used to evaluate positive HIV test results, the accuracy is 0 to 10% for patients with no AIDS symptoms, and about 40% for patients who have symptoms of AIDS-defining illness.

The true accuracy of HIV antibody tests has never been established by determining what percentage of people who test positive on HIV antibody tests have actual HIV that can be isolated from their fresh, uncultured plasma. This, along with the fact that what is called HIV has been observed only in artificial laboratory growths stimulated by chemical agents, has led some scientists to conclude that HIV has never been isolated and that all HIV tests are invalid.

from: What if everything you thought about AIDS was wrong?
by Christine Maggiore

Well, if this logic is true, then I guess all those results from a rapid strep test is also worthless, so instead we should wait the days (and spend the money) doing individual culture growths and risk the disease spreading and becoming scarlet fever and possibly doing irreparable damage to countless people's heart.

People that push these twisted piles of illogical crap are doing more damage then imaginable, by swaying the uneducated among us, luckily most people are smart enough to see through the half truths and realize its not some massive global conspiracy, but that education and true logic shows us the correlation between HIV and AIDS.

hadenough, you do realize that thousands of people from all over the world are researching this disease, right? Do you think that they have some kind of clandestine masonic like meetings where they get together to come out with a fabricated lie about this disease? I say either put your aluminum foil hat back on, or join the enlightened people of the 21st century, we're actually quite fun and we have cookies!

I live in Israel. Trying to get guys to use condoms is like pulling teeth. THEY DO NOT USE THEM AT ALL!! i've had to become abstinent here because they absolutely refuse to put them on. this does not surprise me at all. the STD rate is climbing here rapidly because nobody in this country is educated about STD's. ALSO, when you go to the gynecologist, they DO NOT test you for STD's either! you have to specifically ask, and even then, THAT'S like pulling teeth too! They accuse you of being paranoid and send you home. The ignorance in this country is unbelievable!!

hadenough - please research the HIV lifecycle. There is a latency period of 8-12 years, where the virus is virtually undetectable. Does that mean wait until the virus progresses to higher levels before you suggest prevention? No. That means during the latency period, we need better diagnostics (like the ones being developed currently) so that people CAN protect themselves. Please stop being intellectually lazy and do some homework yourself (and no, a conspiracy theory website does not count)

Almost all Moslem men are either bisexual or full pledged gays. I, a gay American, lived in Saudi Arabia for 3 years and had sexual affairs with Arab men men almost 4 times a day on average (do the math). Another American gay friend had sex with 7264 men in 4 years! They told me that female genitalia was disgusting to them and their faith. Their claim to virtue is one big hypocrisy!

rock,

come on over to the US I will use whatever you request.

hadenough is like one of the wackos who thinks we never walked on the moon, that it was just staged. whack-job city.

Yeah, it is. A lot of older women especially think "Now that I can't get pregnant, I don't need condoms!" There was a chlamydia outbreak at my college with the heterosexual population. That could have easily been HIV.

It's pretty scary to also hear HIV is also rising in the U.S. for people 50 years old and above

it's just that young women who had AIDS are now older. not much change in that.

there seems to be this thing in America where no one realizes that they will become old when they're fifty. everyone thinks that they will be at the prime of their youth forever.

oh hell. I'll spell it out. Put this in your google

Selenium and AIDS.

I agree Inadaze, what even scarier is I read a news article that said there is a strain of Gonorrhea that is resistant to all known antibiotic treatments, they found it in a sex worker in Japan.

the pope already has. that's why he's trying to kill them

phyllis-2480124 - You made the claim, now produce the evidence to support it. Without which, I'm sorry to say you've done nothing more than post an unbelievably stupid comment.

I'm pretty sure the Pope's word carries no weight in this particular part of the world...

the pope and vatican are proposing no-condom-use to every global population that will give him an audience. it's his way of trying to spread disease and mass-murder entire populations.

phyllis - And why is he proposing this? Do you think religious beliefs rather than a type of mass genocide could be behind the Pope's thinking? Duh!!!!

phyllis - I forgot to add earlier: You once again made a claim (disease and mass murder), now provide the evidence. Without which, I'm afraid that - once again - all you really did is post a truly stupid comment.

Let me guess - not Catholic, are you?

No, Roger, I am not a member of the Pedophile Catholic Cult. Good guess.

phyllis - Just the same, get some religion, you have really gone astray.

Question for you: The Pope advocates no use of condoms. He also advocates no premarital sex and mongamy in marriage, so how is this a recipe for mass genocide?

Got ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTF? Is he talking about UFOs?

he has never known the pleasure of shin-shi, shin-shi

Oh please, dear sir, quote some more random text that contributes absolutely nothing meaningful to the topic!

'That is why God gave them up to disgraceful ignorance, for both their females changed the once decent use of themselves into one idiotic; and likewise even the males left the natural use of human decency and became violently inflamed in their ignorance toward one another, idioths with idioths, working what is obscene and receiving in themselves the full recompense, which was due for their error." (MmmMmmBeer 1: 26, 27)

Not worth saving? Really? Your love isn't showing.

Mostly they have no morals and no civilization worth saving

you're talking bad THINGS about GAYSSSS????!!!

watch how you'll be lynched be the media tommorrow.

In the few comments that are posted so far (9), I haven't read anything that could be even remotely considered 'bashing'. So what are you referring too?

Umm. Anything that does not promote homosexuality and its agenda is considered bashing now. Did you miss the memo?

@needajob2, well what was your quoted Bible text about then? It certainly didn't help anyone other than serve as a smug "I told you so".

There aren't any ; ) but...the religious leaders have stated that it is ok for them to use a cucumber if it brings them pleasure...?Huh??? wow...sick sick people…

"their" disease? you know this came from monkeys right? it's their disease, the monkey's revenge on us. See also: Rising of the Planet of the Apes.

So, the gays have one disease, and the rest of them basically belong to us straight people. What high horse do you have the right to sit on? we straight folk have certainly spread a lot of our own diseases.

some of you lowlifes need to get over yourselves.

here's one for ya -- abortion. 0% of abortions are the result of gays or gay sex. We straight folk are the ones getting all the abortions. And that's by choice. The same people who condemn gays are usually the same people who whine about abortion. It must just KILL you to not be able to blame gays for the millions of abortions each year.

Parents determine who marries who and when

It's closer to "parents and their children, together, determine who they want to marry and when".

in the region, marriage is a choice of both the parents and the children.

@Jean, are you saying that arranged marriages causes people to be gay? If so... where are the arranged marriages in the West because we are inundated with them. Something crocked in your theory there.

So much HATE here!!!!

you have something in commun with the terrorsits. they HATE us so much.

Why yes, I do hate ALL terrorists and people constantly asking for aid when they do nothing to better themselves or their situation, yet continue to reproduce.

They don`t have wellington boots !

There isn't anything wrong with homosexuality. And if you're a bigoted homophobe, could you keep it to yourself? We don't want special treatment, just the same treatment and respect that every human deserves. Remember the Golden Rule, Desperado, do unto others as you would have done unto you. Homosexuality is not a choice, it's just part of who we are. Live with it. We can't (won't and shouldn't have to) change who we are, so you need to change how you think of us!

Secondly (related to the article), HIV/AIDs is not solely a "gay" disease. It was, once, but that was a long time ago. It's been a while since I've seen the statistics, but it used to be, in the USA, 1-gay males 2-African American males 3- straight females as the most likely to be HIV+ [the lowest non-abstinent group is lesbians, by the by].

In Sub-Saharan Africa, it's all over the place. Tying "gay" and "HIV" together makes it harder to teach AIDs prevention and protection. There's no cure, yet, so the focus needs to be on stopping the spread.

@Desperado-3849017, I would just like to know what the issue is with gay people? They don't affect anyone. They aren't contagious or dangerous, probably less so than the average. They don't collect benefits, yet. Neither do we have to listen to them tell us how evil we "straight" people are. Generally they stick to themselves, a few random parades aside.

Why don't you save your energy for preserving your racial heritage? Because race-mixing advocates do real, irrepairable damage as opposed to this red-herring of a social issue.

I would just like to know what the issue is with gay people?

simple. if everyone chose to be homosexual, the human race would die out within 60 years.

if advocacy for homosexuality influenced most children and they chose to become homesexual, then the human population will soon be gone.

here's another thing: there are two sexes, not just one, for a reason. it's so that we aren't earthworms.

Humanbeing -

Simple. Good thing hardly anybody chooses to be homosexual. Just as you did not choose to be heterosexual.

Advocacy for tolerance of other groups of people is not a bad thing. You don't have to like what they do, you don't have to practice what they do, but in America you have to respect everyone's rights equally. Same goes for women's rights, same goes for black rights, all minority rights, etc. If you prefer the days when white males dominated every aspect of everyone else's lives, then please fly your timemachine back to 1850.

Here's another thing...the vast majority of life on this planet is asexual, for a reason. Reason being that having sex, as we think of it, is not necessary to spread genetic information nor produce viable progeny. Here's yet another thing...almost every "higher order" organism exhibits homosexuality...from dogs, to pigs, to dolphin, gorilla, chimp, and human. It's very natural and quite common in nature. Even more common in "lesser" animals like birds, reptiles, and fish. Some of these animals are actually able to switch sexes, like a transgender person! Again all of this is quite common, quite natural, and well documented if you bother to search for information (rather than making blindly ignorant comments).

I think homosexuality is wrong. I do think it is a choice that people choose to make. are you telling me these gay men actually have no wetdreams about women?

however, I think the response that conservatives in America give it is the worst possible. just because these people chose to make a wrong choice, does not take away their rights. in fact, heterosexuality is so messed up in America (cheating, teen pregnancies, 66% of children born in America today are bastards, etc.) that homosexuality is actually presentable as an alternative.

here's a better response to homosexuality: just ignore them, but don't take away their rights. even better: don't react to them, but respond to them in a manner that doesn't backfire, as it has done in America. every time a conservative does something against homosexuality, they do it in a completely irrational and ignrant way, which ends up helping homosexuals.

instead, try something more effective, like tolerance.

the vast majority of life on this planet is asexual

I care more about humanity than the rest of life on this planet. if anyone wants to be like animals, having sex with others of the same gender, (haven't heard of that in animals yet, unless you're speaking about mere touching and cuddling and playing, because I never heard about intercourse between male animals) then they should be called animals. no rights violated there.

are you telling me these gay men actually have no wetdreams about women?

Seriously.... That would be the definition of "gay". I have NEVER had any thoughts about men, EVER. I didn't wake up one morning and say "I think I'm going to be a lesbian, hrm, sounds like a good idea." No, it's who I am. When most girls were starting to have crushes on the boys, I was more interested in them. Likewise, gay men, by definition, have no desire for women.

It is not a "wrong choice" because it is not a choice. It's not wrong, it just is. I appreciate that you recognize that the conservatives are wrong in their reaction, and that tolerance is better. And tolerate away, I much prefer that to the alternative, but, for most LGBTs, there is little "choice" involved.

Desperado, you obviously have some issues that I don't think I am fully qualified to address.

Half of the problems in the world are caused by hate. Hate based on sexuality. Hated based on gender identity. Hate based on race. Hate based on religion, culture, gender.... Stop the hate.

Saying you disagree with homosexuality is akin to saying you disagree with me being a woman, because I didn't have a say in either of those. You can't "disagree" with something that is such a part of who one is. Lose the hate. I cannot change who I am, but you can change your opinions. And you should.

And the "political statement" bit is only LGBTs who are sick of being treated as inferior. We are sick of being targeted by homophobes, of losing our jobs, of being attacked. Of being denied the right to marry or adopt.

And, if you don't think you're a homophobe, reread your statements. It's not necessary for everyone to be "OMG I LOVE GAY PEOPLE!!" but, I do expect people to acknowledge my right to a happy and fulfilling life, in the manner I chose.

Sorry desperado, but the Bill of Rights says you most definitely do have to just "deal with it." Equal means equal, so cry me a river.

Apparently, you haven't driven past any of your favorite American, right-wing, redneck trailer-parks lately. They give a whole new meaning to ugly.

hmmm odd that black women have the highest prevalence of HIV...maybe you should turn your hateful opinions on them?

also the prevalence seems to spike below the poverty level, I guess God hates poor people too?

you agree with ignorance, hate, and lies? wow!

LaToya, that's not really something to be proud of.

Not really. Considering a number of homophobes so fear us changing their lifestyle that they try to get rid of us....