I don't see this in quite the same way. People might have a reasonable expectation that their hair, clothing, jewelry wouldn't be grabbed by the mechanics of a massager with such ferocity that it strangles them to death. Working on a drill press, yes... having a massager rub along the back of your neck, no.
wap3 you should know by now that many Americans have lost their common sense and would rather their government tell them exactly how to do everything and protect them from everything under the sun, including the sun in some cases.
If someone doesnt have the sense to remove their jewlery before using a massager, then I nominate them as a candidate for a Darwin award all the way. As for clothing and hair, that does sound like a bit much.
Thank you Prohibition----I have long hair and generally tie it up in a pony tail prior to using any device or seeing my massage therapist, chiropractor, and even acupuncturist.
Call me crazy but I don't want anything in the way of my bodywork.
1 has an accident resuling in death and yet thousands have been sold. And of course family has to blame someone or somthing. This company will go bankrupt now.
clean water is EPA - google clean water act of 1972
FDA is concerned with food and drug safety in the United States...not "all items imported." Import of most pharmaceutical drugs is already illegal anyhow...and the USDA takes care of numerous aspects of meat and produce import.
I'm not saying to get rid of the FDA, but it needs a major and long-over-due overhaul
All things imported are supposed to be inspected, but we have lowered the tariffs, and there is so much imported that it often doesn't happen. Remember the play jewelry made of cadmium? When parents buy toys, they expect them to be clean, non-toxic, and not going to fall into shrapnel. An adult massage machine is another story, but it sounds as though people were using it as directed (except for the jewelry case), and it still grabbed clothing and hair. Why is it that anybody would side with this company? It reminds me of the Wisconsin alcohol wipes company: something for medical use that could kill you if used as directed. Why isn't it called murder?
It's a Darwin award if caused by the user (i.e., the person who wore jewelry). It can be called Murder, or Fascism, or Civil War. Doesn't matter what you call it. It causes death. But don't blame the victims (except for the person who wore jewelry).
For those arguing that only a stupid person would die from the use so we should allow the sale of it. Only 12,000 have been sold, one person is already dead and one person was almost killed by it. Imagine if your daughter got her hair caught in it, or the hood on your sons sweater, or any other perfectly normal piece of clothing. What is sad is that a manufacturer would spend millions on a device without having half a brain to understand what tool operators have know for over 100 years. Things that spin at rapid speeds are dangerous. Put an emergency shut off switch on it. In business school we refer this to Organizational Darwinism. Company's that make stupid mistakes will soon go away.
LOL, after 8 years, finally two people have a problem, so the lawsuits and recalls start. Given enough time on the market, and all products will have a problem of some sort.
After 8 years, things start to fall apart. Now is about when you would find problems. So you side with the company. In this case, death is called Fascism.
Elizabeth-1372999Oh how silly. I am a very compassionate person. If you want to ban things that cause death, you have to ban alcohol, cars, and penicillin (which causes 500 - 1000 deaths per year.) Get over yourself before you criticize others for pointing out the folly in these silly articles. Find a purpose for your life instead of letting an article create one for you, hehe.
Again, this is serious. But really, the reason it is mostly women who buy such machines is that it is the only way to get a massage, and not just talk.
Nobody would have ever heard about this at the national level if it wasn't for the potential lawsuits. At least one Darwin Award here, and honorable mention and probably more awards to come.
$140.00? No wonder people are broke. I could tell anyone before it hit the market that it is a frivilous peice of garbage and to save your money. OYE!!!
what??? you mean you don't need to spend $200.00 to have a machine knead your dough. I would love to know how many people actually use their bread maker on a weekly, monthly, yearly or a once in awhile dusting basis...bet the dusting comes in the the very high 90% range.
DELGENA - we use ours a minimum of 2 times a month- the machine takes all the work out of kneading and rising the bread, - we pull it out and bake it before the cook cycle starts -
ours is a Williams -Sonoma that I got for $10 at a yard sale, brand new! They were tired of dusting it.......
@Ritdog - you made a great purchase with using it that much. I think its funny how people spend alot of money and never use things, but someone like you who finds a terrific bargain actually uses it. Very economically smart on your part!!!!!
Remember the woman who put a hot cup of coffee between her knees while driving and got 1 Million Dollars for the burns she sustained because it was McDonald's fault because the coffee was hot? Or the Walkie Talkie which states that to work properly you must by two......Clearly we are stuck on stupid!!
Vera....please step away from the keyboard and turn off the computer....You have the right to remain silent but you don't have the rights to put yourself down because we all make mistakes....You may continue.
You could fall asleep with a towel around your neck and strangle yourself to death, should we recall all towels and only allow people to dry themselves with wash rags?. 12000 units sold eight years and two incidents, the meds in your medicine cabinet probably have a worse track record. Babies drown in buckets of water do we outlaw buckets?. Whatever happened to common sense and individual responsibility?.
Then there was the guy who tried to sue handyman rental because he used his rental lawnmower to trim his hedges by picking it up and waving it over the hedge.
Chopped his fingertips off. Handyman had NO warning labels that you couldn't do that, so he sued.
He lost - somehow. In this country stupidity is rewarded by the courts all the time.
Sounds like the company didn't make the required donation to the current administration. Although it also sounds like people should use a little common sense or would this be asking too much?
Why not just another warning like: Do not iron clothes while wearing them.
The gene pool is in a great need of thorough cleaning and this will help.
I don't see this in quite the same way. People might have a reasonable expectation that their hair, clothing, jewelry wouldn't be grabbed by the mechanics of a massager with such ferocity that it strangles them to death. Working on a drill press, yes... having a massager rub along the back of your neck, no.
wap3 you should know by now that many Americans have lost their common sense and would rather their government tell them exactly how to do everything and protect them from everything under the sun, including the sun in some cases.
Though a reasonable person wouldn't use the massager if the attached covering became torn or detached. But we can't accuse many of being reasonable.
If someone doesnt have the sense to remove their jewlery before using a massager, then I nominate them as a candidate for a Darwin award all the way. As for clothing and hair, that does sound like a bit much.
Thank you Prohibition----I have long hair and generally tie it up in a pony tail prior to using any device or seeing my massage therapist, chiropractor, and even acupuncturist.
Call me crazy but I don't want anything in the way of my bodywork.
Maybe if the company should taint the massagers with Bacillus cereus; then the FDA will ignore them.
1 has an accident resuling in death and yet thousands have been sold. And of course family has to blame someone or somthing. This company will go bankrupt now.
Quote "Do away with the FDA" Rick Perry for President. WOW
Talking about voting against your own interest, if so Perry is your man.
I'm going to vote to have my water unclean.
I'm going to vote all items imported in the United States not be safe.
WOW who wants that.
clean water is EPA - google clean water act of 1972
FDA is concerned with food and drug safety in the United States...not "all items imported." Import of most pharmaceutical drugs is already illegal anyhow...and the USDA takes care of numerous aspects of meat and produce import.
I'm not saying to get rid of the FDA, but it needs a major and long-over-due overhaul
All things imported are supposed to be inspected, but we have lowered the tariffs, and there is so much imported that it often doesn't happen. Remember the play jewelry made of cadmium? When parents buy toys, they expect them to be clean, non-toxic, and not going to fall into shrapnel. An adult massage machine is another story, but it sounds as though people were using it as directed (except for the jewelry case), and it still grabbed clothing and hair. Why is it that anybody would side with this company? It reminds me of the Wisconsin alcohol wipes company: something for medical use that could kill you if used as directed. Why isn't it called murder?
I guess a picture of the device is out of the question.
Google it...
Yep, third picture down with the corpse laying face up, but her body is face down! Gruesome! It looks like there's a whistle hanging out of her ear?
It works great. Up until that death part.
Ya, talk about a massage with unhappy ending!
I think this should have been posted in the "Darwin Award" section instead of health...
It's a Darwin award if caused by the user (i.e., the person who wore jewelry). It can be called Murder, or Fascism, or Civil War. Doesn't matter what you call it. It causes death. But don't blame the victims (except for the person who wore jewelry).
Well I have finally found my boss a great birthday gift!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahaha!!!
Good one!
In this case, it's called Civil War.
For those arguing that only a stupid person would die from the use so we should allow the sale of it. Only 12,000 have been sold, one person is already dead and one person was almost killed by it. Imagine if your daughter got her hair caught in it, or the hood on your sons sweater, or any other perfectly normal piece of clothing. What is sad is that a manufacturer would spend millions on a device without having half a brain to understand what tool operators have know for over 100 years. Things that spin at rapid speeds are dangerous. Put an emergency shut off switch on it. In business school we refer this to Organizational Darwinism. Company's that make stupid mistakes will soon go away.
Who would let their son wear a sweater with a hood on it in public anyway?
Send it back to China and try to get a refund for a piece of crap!!
And in this case, it's called Fascism.
But, it sounds like using it having short hair, and not wearing jewelry, and in the nude, is still perfectly safe.
OK, so it's only for men who go around nude. I hope it doesn't eat any body part that sticks out.
And no doubt that this device came from CHINA!! When the hell are we going to STOP buying this crap from CHINA?!!! Wake up America!!
how about smoke a joint and shut the fuk up already.....
LOL, after 8 years, finally two people have a problem, so the lawsuits and recalls start. Given enough time on the market, and all products will have a problem of some sort.
After 8 years, things start to fall apart. Now is about when you would find problems. So you side with the company. In this case, death is called Fascism.
Elizabeth-1372999Oh how silly. I am a very compassionate person. If you want to ban things that cause death, you have to ban alcohol, cars, and penicillin (which causes 500 - 1000 deaths per year.) Get over yourself before you criticize others for pointing out the folly in these silly articles. Find a purpose for your life instead of letting an article create one for you, hehe.
If it works that well, I think I want it. I'll only be naked when I use it.
//Beth @ the <a href="">Chicago Singer</a>
Beth, I can do a better job than this machine. Especially if you're going to be naked anyway. Give me a call!
Again, this is serious. But really, the reason it is mostly women who buy such machines is that it is the only way to get a massage, and not just talk.
I need to get my boss one too!
Nobody would have ever heard about this at the national level if it wasn't for the potential lawsuits. At least one Darwin Award here, and honorable mention and probably more awards to come.
$140.00? No wonder people are broke. I could tell anyone before it hit the market that it is a frivilous peice of garbage and to save your money. OYE!!!
Exactly, I put purchases like this up there with home made bread makers.
what??? you mean you don't need to spend $200.00 to have a machine knead your dough. I would love to know how many people actually use their bread maker on a weekly, monthly, yearly or a once in awhile dusting basis...bet the dusting comes in the the very high 90% range.
DELGENA - we use ours a minimum of 2 times a month- the machine takes all the work out of kneading and rising the bread, - we pull it out and bake it before the cook cycle starts -
ours is a Williams -Sonoma that I got for $10 at a yard sale, brand new! They were tired of dusting it.......
@Ritdog - you made a great purchase with using it that much. I think its funny how people spend alot of money and never use things, but someone like you who finds a terrific bargain actually uses it. Very economically smart on your part!!!!!
I would rather pay $60 and have a real massage than buy crap like this.
Consider buying this machine a bit like jumping off a tall building, you'll be fine for 99.9% of the fall.
Remember the woman who put a hot cup of coffee between her knees while driving and got 1 Million Dollars for the burns she sustained because it was McDonald's fault because the coffee was hot? Or the Walkie Talkie which states that to work properly you must by two......Clearly we are stuck on stupid!!
Sorry, I spelled the word buy "by" in my post.... I spelled it wrong, clearly I also got stuck on stupid!!
SPELLING B POLICE
Vera....please step away from the keyboard and turn off the computer....You have the right to remain silent but you don't have the rights to put yourself down because we all make mistakes....You may continue.
You could fall asleep with a towel around your neck and strangle yourself to death, should we recall all towels and only allow people to dry themselves with wash rags?. 12000 units sold eight years and two incidents, the meds in your medicine cabinet probably have a worse track record. Babies drown in buckets of water do we outlaw buckets?. Whatever happened to common sense and individual responsibility?.
Then there was the guy who tried to sue handyman rental because he used his rental lawnmower to trim his hedges by picking it up and waving it over the hedge.
Chopped his fingertips off. Handyman had NO warning labels that you couldn't do that, so he sued.
He lost - somehow. In this country stupidity is rewarded by the courts all the time.
Just more substandard and useless crap we purchase from China.
Sounds like the company didn't make the required donation to the current administration. Although it also sounds like people should use a little common sense or would this be asking too much?