What a welcome to the world for boys!!! Get spanked by the Doc and then they do surgery on your thang. Enough to make you want to crawl back into the womb!

Since sex is so dull for them; what else do they have to do.

Great post, Oom Yaaqub.

Um, Askenaski sex is just as good as anyone else's. In fact the religion totally honors sex and encourages it, within marriage of course. To a Jew there is no such thing as "just sex" and there is nothing you are not allowed to do if you are married. A Jewish woman actually has an official right to sex (the number of times depends on her husband's job.) If he doesn't perform, she is entitled to a divorce. If he even changes jobs so she gets less, she can divorce. And this rule has been in place for 2000 years.

@ loripuff :

If you're gonna cut off a piece of your penis just to please chicks you might wanna remove your balls too cause you won't be needing them

Yep. I can tell by your comment that women are probably stumbling all over themselves to get ahold of your uncircumcised penis. Because its so important to show those imaginary women who the boss is as you swing it around like that. Hope you enjoy youself...alone.

Great post, leahshell! Some men are so arrogant!

Your right, I have absolutely NO respect for women that mutilate babies. You don't care about men's health or you would have all that flapping skin cut off like you are promoting.

Mothers don't have to clean an uncircumcised baby's penis. The foreskin is attached just like the nail to the nail bed for about 3 years. You know how bad it hurts to rip your fingernail off? That's the first thing they do during a circumcision. They rip the skin and fermium loose from the glans with blunt forceps. Then they pull the bleeding skin forward and crush it with another pair. Then they slice the skin off. Then they push the cut back over the head and leave the wound bare. Hopefully not cutting the glans off in the process. All the while the baby is screaming or in shock. About 100 babies in the United States DIE each year from complication from circumcision. 2 baby boys die each year DURING the circumcision and that's what doctors will tell you if you press them hard enough, it's just two out of a million. Did you know that? That's not counting amputated penises, glans. Deformed urethra, skin bridges, horrific scaring and 100's of other complication.

Are you telling me that you would put your baby through that just to so some woman can suck his dick in 18 or 20 years?

have a Jewish mohel do it. They give the baby a bit of wine so he doesn't feel it. Oh, right, now you are going to get all horrified about underage drinking. Maybe they should use some other drug. But they do have such drugs. No kid should have to die--just do it correctly. This is a total non issue.

wine would only lessen the pain. The baby would still feel it, and what about after the procedure? Its an exposed, raw wound. People make the surgery sound like its no big deal, but it has to be excrutiatingly painful after, and we're doing this to newborns. It just seems so wrong and unfair.

whats wrong and unfair is that we don't give adequate pain medication. I'm sure you're aware that you can actually be put under for surgery although this is risky for a neonate. Maybe they should wait until he is a bit older. But for the rest of the child's life, he will be cleaner, healthier, and much more attractive to women. You know it isn't all that painful later because the child doesn't cry later.

So when are you going to be circumcised to protect men?

I am a woman, and and so were my sons two doctors who advised me that there is NO MEDICAL NEED for circumcision. Prior to my sons birth, I had been planning on having him circumcised, and was just debating the method (ritual or regular surgery). I was researching and watched a video on youtube of a typical procedure, and it left me sobbing and determined that I would NEVER do that to my child! Its not like there's this loose flap of extra skin that they just trim off. Like someone stated above, its attached like a nail to a nailbed. They have to literally RIP the skin from the head of the penis. To me thats torture, and as a parent, its my job to protect my child. As for the uncleanliness and stds, that does not come hand in hand with being uncircumsized, thats due to poor hygiene, which is a personal choice. Someone who knows how to properly clean themselves should have no issues. I actually come from a family of males that are not circumcised, not one of which have EVER had an issue or any stds. My brother was even in the marines and was at times unable to properly bathe for weeks- never a problem! I'd like to add it was actually way easier to clean my son diapers than my daughters- she had all the cracks and crevices, whereas it was extremely easy to clean any poop off of his penis. I think I would agree that a circumsized penis looks more attractive, but I am not willing to promote cosmetic surgery on infants due to that. I figured if a girl would be unwilling to be with my son due to being uncircumcised, he's better off not being with someone that would be that shallow and judgemental to begin with. I would rather he make the choice for himself when he's older. I had an ex boyfriend that was uncircumcised, and it was never an issue as far as cleanliness. I'm not trying to make you wrong or fight with you, I just would like you to be open minded and re-examine your arguments for circumcising helpless infants. Watch a video of the procedure and see if you feel the same way. If stds are passed more easily fron those who are uncircumcised, then obviously boys need to be taught safer sex practices and better hygiene practices, I don't believe the answer is chop off their extra skin. I dont believe the std thing is even that much of a problem, because there are so many in the medical field who do not promote circumsicion, and I feel like if that was a big concern, they would address that. The american pediatric association states there is no MEDICAL need for it! Just please research this a little better before you promote this cruel, barbaric procedure. Do you really believe a child is not in excruciating pain from being circumsicised? There are so many that dont, but I just dont find it logical to say there is little to no pain after the initial procedure. How could a raw, exposed surgical wound not be extremely painful? How do you justify that procedure so your sons penis is more socially acceptable? More and more parents are chooing to not circumcise (even the Jewish community is seeing a decline due to the barbarity of circumcision), so its actually going to be more normal to still be intact. I hope this will help steer someone from making a very unfair choice for their infant. Like I said earlier, leave your kids penis alone and let them choose for themselves when they are old enough to do so. From experience with my ex and my husband, I can also tell you an intact penis has way more nerve endings and feeling, and I believe wnen you cut the skin off where all of that stuff is located, you are deprivng that male from the pleasure thy would have recieved from that. No woman hating here, its about human rights and educating yourself and loving your child enough to do whats best for them, not more socially acceptable.

OOPS!! Posted twice- sorry, I couldnt figure out how to delete this comment!

Actually irenavr, it's worth reading twice. I don't hate women. I just have no respect for a women that wants to mutilate a man just for her selfishness.

Look, any biologist can explain there are mistakes in evolution, like the human appendix. The foreskin is another one.

Here's one environmental scientist / biologist that disagrees. The human appendix functions as a toxin filter; it's just not necessary for life because other organs play a greater role. There are no mistakes in a species. A mistake in a individual member can be good, bad, or neutral. If it's an advantage the members keep it (all male mammals have a functioning foreskin so I guess its pretty damn important). You might want to study natural selection and phases of extinction. You don't have to cut it off which is a disadvantage. God don't make mistakes, people do.

okay, I get your point, but evolution takes time, involves random mutations, and therefore isn't perfect. How could it be? Your appendix can kill you. You can easily live without it. When people run off to remote places to do field studies, they sometimes have their healthy appendix removed first.

And IMHO even God makes occasional mistakes, otherwise he wouldn't be able to forgive ours.