I can see why teens would participate more in those types of behaviors, but school doesn't always make it easy to get eight hours of sleep a night. If you ride the bus, the bus comes anywhere from 6am to 715. If you play sports, you're out later than usual at games or traveling for games. Homework also plays a part in that. Most teens don't have the time to come home from school, go right to homework, eat dinner, and go to bed. It is just unrealistic. What happened to the idea of switching elementary kids to the high school schedule and letting high school start later in the day?
Thanks for your level-headedness. I expected the parents-nowadays-are-all-too-lenient mudslinging.
Study after study shows that teenagers' sleep patterns change along with the hormones of adolescence. Growth hormone is only released during sleep. Kids are in their deepest sleep levels at the time that they are now being forced to get up. (My kid had to leave the house at 7:05 to be driven to the bus stop. He would have had to leave in the dark at 6:45 and jay walk a 2 lane state highway otherwise - whole other story of local school district idiocy.) Their extreme sleepiness is not always an indicator of being over scheduled or staying up to the wee hours texting.
Studies also show that when school districts change school schedules to begin school at 9:30 or even 10:00 - guess what, cuts, tardies and absences drop dramatically. This schedule has the added benefit of having school get out closer to the time that parents are getting off of work, reducing the amount of time many kids are left without supervision.
Years ago a neighboring school district went part way and adopted Late Start Mondays - 9:30. Why all middle and high schools don't do this is beyond me. Especially since the schools get money when the kids actually attend and sad to say, with schools so strapped for cash, everything nowadays is about $$.
The raging hormones aren't quite as bad by then. I'm more upset at the ongoing trend of earlier, earlier, earlier. First 8:30 became 8:15, then 8:00, now 7:50...
There was a study done that showed teens needed more sleep in the morning because of some natural bodily clock thing, sorry, not going to try to find it now, but anyway, I believe it's possible our socieity may too structured to allow for the best possible result's for our youth as a whole, (in learning, creativity, and performance) based on the science that is currently available.
You know, I'd bet money that a correlation exists between risky behavior and lack of sleep with adults, too, and probably kids younger than teens as well.
This survey doesn't really make any bold points. Is lack of sleep correllated to being screwed up in other areas of your life? Uh, duh... The point, is, though, that accruing a sleep debt isn't the CAUSE of these things. Want teenagers to get more sleep? Short of starting school at 11AM, I don't think you're going to see much of an impact.
Calvin, you beat me to it! I think it's just as likely that during youth (and often adulthood as well) that sleep is a trade-off against "more productive" activities. ;-)
They should have never had a job in that field in the first place, now we can't get rid of them, for they will add to unemployed numbers, as would everything else that we don't get our money's worth for.
Not getting enough sleep does NOT lead to doing drugs and drinking. Doing drugs and drinking leads to less sleep!!!!! ugh people can be so stupid. So parents, according to this article, as long as your child gets 8 hrs of sleep they will not do anything bad.. yeah okay.
I never got 8 hours in high school (I averaged 6), but my lack of sleep made me more susceptible to doing things like joining more crews in theater and volunteering for the solo in choir I would have been too scared to do if I wasn't too tired to care. I still managed to graduate with a 3.6 gpa, without doing drugs, without drinking, without smoking and I still made out with boys, I just never slept with them. I had a blast in HS was ready for not sleeping when I got to college where every freshman on campus will be stuck a minimum of one 8AM class.
Interesting, one of the studies stated that your teen who got less than eight hours of sleep is more sexually active, which is actually a good thing, it means the mind is responding in different ways and it is good. Your teen will not watch TV, which in our day that was a bad thing here they are saying it is a good thing, your teen will use computers more, which is suppossed to be a good thing in that compters will make help develop your brain however, if it is just used for Facebook then it's not good, your teen will be more suicidal and get into more fights. So I see it as a 2 bad out of 5 good thing that your teen will get from not a lot of sleep however, when they are in their room until 2 or 3 in the mornng on their phones that is ridiculous. I take their ohone away wen they go to be at 1000 or if I go to bed and she has not, this way she canot use the phone periood.
I can see why teens would participate more in those types of behaviors, but school doesn't always make it easy to get eight hours of sleep a night. If you ride the bus, the bus comes anywhere from 6am to 715. If you play sports, you're out later than usual at games or traveling for games. Homework also plays a part in that. Most teens don't have the time to come home from school, go right to homework, eat dinner, and go to bed. It is just unrealistic. What happened to the idea of switching elementary kids to the high school schedule and letting high school start later in the day?
Thanks for your level-headedness. I expected the parents-nowadays-are-all-too-lenient mudslinging.
Study after study shows that teenagers' sleep patterns change along with the hormones of adolescence. Growth hormone is only released during sleep. Kids are in their deepest sleep levels at the time that they are now being forced to get up. (My kid had to leave the house at 7:05 to be driven to the bus stop. He would have had to leave in the dark at 6:45 and jay walk a 2 lane state highway otherwise - whole other story of local school district idiocy.) Their extreme sleepiness is not always an indicator of being over scheduled or staying up to the wee hours texting.
Studies also show that when school districts change school schedules to begin school at 9:30 or even 10:00 - guess what, cuts, tardies and absences drop dramatically. This schedule has the added benefit of having school get out closer to the time that parents are getting off of work, reducing the amount of time many kids are left without supervision.
Years ago a neighboring school district went part way and adopted Late Start Mondays - 9:30. Why all middle and high schools don't do this is beyond me. Especially since the schools get money when the kids actually attend and sad to say, with schools so strapped for cash, everything nowadays is about $$.
And when they have a early morning class in college or start work at 7AM after a 1 hour commute then what?
The raging hormones aren't quite as bad by then. I'm more upset at the ongoing trend of earlier, earlier, earlier. First 8:30 became 8:15, then 8:00, now 7:50...
Oh look, my number's changed. Odd.
There was a study done that showed teens needed more sleep in the morning because of some natural bodily clock thing, sorry, not going to try to find it now, but anyway, I believe it's possible our socieity may too structured to allow for the best possible result's for our youth as a whole, (in learning, creativity, and performance) based on the science that is currently available.
Of course that's only part of the mix.
You know, I'd bet money that a correlation exists between risky behavior and lack of sleep with adults, too, and probably kids younger than teens as well.
This survey doesn't really make any bold points. Is lack of sleep correllated to being screwed up in other areas of your life? Uh, duh... The point, is, though, that accruing a sleep debt isn't the CAUSE of these things. Want teenagers to get more sleep? Short of starting school at 11AM, I don't think you're going to see much of an impact.
Didn't read your post untill I made my comment, definitively sounds like there's some dots to be connected on this topic.
Why do I find it easier to believe that the risky behavior is causing a lack of sleep instead of the other way around, as the article poses?
My thoughts exactly.
Most likely a genetic component there too.
Calvin, you beat me to it! I think it's just as likely that during youth (and often adulthood as well) that sleep is a trade-off against "more productive" activities. ;-)
Yes, the above mentioned IS the reason for lack of sleep, not lack of sleep causing them to be out drinking and partying. lol
It's bass ackwards.
And 2/3 of the people coming up with these studies should be on the unemployment lines.
They should have never had a job in that field in the first place, now we can't get rid of them, for they will add to unemployed numbers, as would everything else that we don't get our money's worth for.
Not getting enough sleep does NOT lead to doing drugs and drinking. Doing drugs and drinking leads to less sleep!!!!! ugh people can be so stupid. So parents, according to this article, as long as your child gets 8 hrs of sleep they will not do anything bad.. yeah okay.
I never got 8 hours in high school (I averaged 6), but my lack of sleep made me more susceptible to doing things like joining more crews in theater and volunteering for the solo in choir I would have been too scared to do if I wasn't too tired to care. I still managed to graduate with a 3.6 gpa, without doing drugs, without drinking, without smoking and I still made out with boys, I just never slept with them. I had a blast in HS was ready for not sleeping when I got to college where every freshman on campus will be stuck a minimum of one 8AM class.
Interesting, one of the studies stated that your teen who got less than eight hours of sleep is more sexually active, which is actually a good thing, it means the mind is responding in different ways and it is good. Your teen will not watch TV, which in our day that was a bad thing here they are saying it is a good thing, your teen will use computers more, which is suppossed to be a good thing in that compters will make help develop your brain however, if it is just used for Facebook then it's not good, your teen will be more suicidal and get into more fights. So I see it as a 2 bad out of 5 good thing that your teen will get from not a lot of sleep however, when they are in their room until 2 or 3 in the mornng on their phones that is ridiculous. I take their ohone away wen they go to be at 1000 or if I go to bed and she has not, this way she canot use the phone periood.