But it's unclear whether the inexpensive drug will ever reach the U.S. or Western Europe
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You can bet big Pharma will pay millions to block it in the US.
Especially when they are getting over $200 a month per person for people on Chantix. I just refilled my prescription of it and it cost me $214 for one month. Too bad insurance companies won't cover it. I guess for obvious reasons.
Actually, thanks to the insane way this country's government refuses to fund medical research, all Pharma has to do is simply continue to not fund the studies required for it to be approved in the U.S.
No cash outlay required. Except the ongoing bribery/lobbying payments to congress.
OhJoy, You don't state where you are but if you're in the US I can say that the US government does fund medial research and studies. I was on a clinical trial 12 years ago which saved my life. I'm thankful everyday for the opportunity I was given and it was the US government that funded the trial (CDC actually.)
Snake oil. If you want to quit you can quit.
I quit 4 years ago, as have so many, however at least 1/2 of the quiters in my support group (25+) and many others I have spoken to now have Type 2 diabetes.
I know the medical community (who have been earning backhanders for years from big phama & their quitting snake oil) would never consider trying to correlate this in a study. but it strikes me so very odd that so may fall to diabetes within 6 months of stopping smoking.
Quit 11 years ago and have no urge to go back (though had bad urges for first 3 years or so, sneaking a cig every once in a while). There was no pill back then. Never used patches. Never participated in any kind of support group. Admittedly was under immense pressure from my wife to quit (or was it support?). No diabetes (knock on wood).
Snake oil. If you want to quit you can quit.
from a non smoker, you probably work for the government
My question is whether or not this has been shown to address the cognitive and behavioral aspects of cigarette addiction or if it is just a means to reduce physical withdrawal from nicotine. What are the relapse rates? Has the pill ever been paired with behavior counseling as well?
The cyanide pills are reported to provide a 100% cure rate with just a single dose. Only one side effect is known but few are reported to have complained to their physician. They are also fully certified by the Bulgarian Secret Police where the large stock was found.
LOL!!!
Let's see....1) its really cheap 2) it works really well and 3) seems to have no side effects in years and years of use by millions of people....I guess that practically guarantees it will never see the light of day here. Though at the same time, smokers are taxed into the ground and blamed for billions and billions of health care costs. As if we needed one more example of why the U.S. is almost completely fouled up beyond redemption.
Go to any of the soviet era states they all still smoke
Works really well? Did you even read the article. The success rate is 8.4%. On what planet does a success rate of less than 10% qualify something as working really well. It is less than a third the upper limit of the success rate for Chantix and even that I would have trouble qualifying as a product that "works really well"
My wife threw the Chantrix in the toilet, it did a real phyco # on me
Chantix could be used to induce vomiting on me. Paid the $300 for a month supply and it makes me violently sick 10 mins after taking it. Tried it with food and milk, but no go. Love flushing money down the toilet. After seeing the myriad of other side effects of the drug, I'm actually kind of glad it didn't get into my system.
Cytisine is one of the poisonous alkaloids present in Laburnum seeds. Why would anyone use a poison as a drug? I'd want to see lots of (expensive) research studies before taking it. Of course, if anyone had studied nicotine many years ago, they would have discovered it is also a poisonous alkaloid . . .
Most medicinal drugs are poisons, my dear... it is the quantity that kills or cures
They always knew it was a poisonous alkaloid. That's why it was a favorite herbicide among farmers and gardeners.
Not really a herbicide, but a pesticide, or insecticide. Even Indians used tobacco for that.
Right, meant pesticide but didn't type it. Also like how it used to show up in murder mysteries as a hard to trace murder weapon. So the tobacco companies, doctors and gov always knew tobacco killed, but that's a whole other ball of yarn.
At that price, we don't have to worry about citisine ever finding its way into the U.S.! Pfizer and the other big pharma companies would lose too much money!
So, it will be sold via the internet.
Wein the western world haven't figured out how to make money off this pill yet and no big comp has offered us anything I've noticed when the cost of cigarettes goes up so do the cost of patches and gum noone wants you to stop just want you to pay more
Of course it has not been approved in western countries, particularly the U S, as it is cheap! Nothing in it for U S drug manufacturers! The greedy bastar#@!
Totally agree James. To many political ties to the smoking industry. If they really wanted smokers to have a fighting chance they would be doing further testing on this drug and making it available. Greed will be the downfall of our Nation. There is no doubt about it. When is enough, enough?
They are using a poisonous tree to help quit smoking??
Practically everything around us is poison. Let's not kid ourselves. I wouldnt be suprised if it all is some kind of population control. I wouldnt be the first time government has experimented on its people.
Producing and selling of cigaretts should be proclaimed illegal wherever it is possible, and the same measure should be applied to alcohol. Tobacco smokers is are the same addicts as heroin users.
You sound SO like a bitchin ex smoker
No, I 've never smoked a cigarette. I am surrounded by smokers everyday and if you go to caffee\restaurant etc and don't want to inhale smoke they become surprised why you can't tolerate and think you are odd or feminine. Becides, I can see a lot of mothers with their children who smoke in their presence.
I'm in Houston can't smoke anywhere here restaurants, bars, city parks within 25 of a building entrance. I believe Galveston is trying to stop it on the beach even.
In Russia people can smoke in all these locations without being punished.
This article needs more research.
Laburnum seed and Cytisus laburnum L. are two different components.
Laburnum seed can poison anyone who mistakes the seeds for peas.