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Is wine good or bad for me this week?
Wine is always good. Jesus drank it. Who do you trust?
in that case, dont drink it....
Yea, **** that, look what happened to that sandal wearing hippie!
Make your mind up already. It does. It doesn't. It does. It doesn't. Every week there's a new study and new recommendations. Same way with everything else. Vitamins are good for you. No they're not. Yes they are. No they're not. Whatever. I don't believe anything I read anymore regardless of who is saying it.
Who paid for the study? The cel phone industry I`m guessing. Once again ...trust Wall st we wouldn`t screw you over AGAIN would we?
I can`t believe this . Yes it is bad for you period. You are getting even more EM going through your body. Is their anything positive about electronic magnetic fields going through your body ?
I do believe it`s not fair just to say phones though..Remotes,radars,microwaves,airport scans etc...
The Danish government paid for the study. If you had actually read the article, you wouldn't have to guess.
It doesn't really matter what you believe or don't believe. What matters is objective physical reality. Physicists have demonstrated that there isn't enough quantum energy in radio waves of the frequency used by cell phones to cause molecular effects, ie they can't break molecular bonds. That means they can't cause cancer.
That should be end of story. But some hysterical fruitcakes don't accept physical science. So we have these endless studies attempting to find some dubious statistical correlation between cell phone use and cancer. One might as well flip coins. All of the studies show nothing but statistical noise when properly analyzed. One can read anything into statistical noise, sort of like reading chicken entrails to predict the future, and with about the same accuracy. Waste of time and money.
I read the article dumbazz,that doesn`t mean the phone industry didn`t play any part into the tests.
You can make the results anyway you`d like them to go by a whole world of variables. Did you ever see the study between children cancer rates and sub station electrical plants ? I guess they were just wrong?
Don`t worry then,keep that phone up to your head as much as possible and use as much electrity around you and your family that you can.
Even N.Tesla knew it was bad for you and I put my money on him over you!
Talking on a phone sucks anyway. Phones are increasingly useful because they allow you to communicate WITHOUT talking to people. People often use bluetooth headsets if they actually do talk alot, and that doesnt seem to be the focus of this study anyway.
Every ten years, theyll have ten more years of data to build a bigger study on, and in ten years i imagine its possible that we just wont have to have a phone next to our head for one reason or another. I think its fair to say that my 'phone usage' (talking one the phone) has decreased as more effective forms of communication have developed. A text, a post on a forum, or a facebook post or tweet can make it so that you can tell the same thing to alot of people and thats just a bunch of people you dont have to actually talk to on a "phone'. This trend and miniaturization/integration of new technologies will continue to make what we consider a 'phone' to be more like a 'crystal ball' and it seems unlikely that well get cancer because we are holding next to our head all the time.
The way we use a phone, as device which we hold next to our heads, seems to be alittle old fashioned - much as regular phones just seem pointless right now.
Reporters... if you're going to put up things on studies, put up where the FULL study can be read. I like to know who is financially behind them and I like to look at all the data, not just cherry picked data for a headline. The first line of the article says 'probably', which certainly leaves room for doubt.
Some quotes from the report still alude to cancer risks...
The report itself is very vague on which users the study "generally suggest no increased risk." It still leaves out a subgroup of "heavy users" in which a "small to moderate risk" is present.
An abstract of the report is available on the British Medical Journal's site plus the full report if you have access...
Most cellphones run only 6 tenths of a watt. That is very low power. Not like using a 5 watt two meter ham handheld radio, which causes no problem either!
The wattage isn't important, what matters is the frequency of the signal. No one freaks out about sitting in front of a 100 watt light bulb do they? And the frequencies that a cell phone uses are orders of magnitude short of having the energy to break chemical bonds, which is how you get DNA damage, which is how you get cancer.
Nice example with the light bulb. 100 watts of terahertz radiation sort of dwarfs the few milliwatts of the much lower frequency used by a cell phone.
Of course government has banned sales of the 100 watt bulb, so stupidity in government does know no bounds.
Another useless study that wasted time and money. Are you going to stop using a cell phone if the study had a negative outcome?
...... Yeal, Right
Has anyone considered that the combined RF output of all radio, television, microwave, PLR (power line radiation) measured in watts is greater even than our national debt! If EMR caused cancer we would have been dead (all of us) years ago along with every living thing on this planet. Consider before transmitters were placed under remote control the number of broadcast transmitter engineers working in EMR fields caused by their transmitters with ERP's of upwards of 7Megawatts.
The utter stupidity of a couple of millwatt headsets causing cancer is equalled only by the stupidity of our congress.
Get a life!
So what will the study show next week?
Who sponsored this study? Bet it was a well known telephone company for their own interests.
I'm not saying the radiation in cell phones is harmful, I'm just saying radiation is harmful.
Radiation comes in all frequencies. Very short, high energy, frequencies (X-rays, ultraviolet, etc.) can and do cause harm. Visible light is not typically harmful. Even longer frequencies pass right through us (radio waves) with little interaction. The research is driven by the immense amount of potential liability should cell phones even slightly raise the risk of cancer. This subject will be studied to death until a lawyer can sue.
In fact there is no known mechanism by for how mobile phones could cause cancer. The microwave radiation they transmit and receive is very weak and does not have enough energy to damage DNA. Mobile phones also produce tiny amounts of heat in the brain, but so does not wearing a hat on a sunny day!
I'll bet these researchers are in competition with the "egg study" bunch.
One month it's bad for ya...., then the next month it aint. ;-O
I still won't use one. I grew up without them (graduated in mid 1990s) and never found much use of them when they did come out. Who wants to be bothered ALL the time by these annoying things. I was in TJ Maxx one nite and had to listen to some fat mouth blab on about decorating a float for a parade. I couldn't even concentrate on the latest fashion trends.
Facebook can also lick my @$$.
Facebook can also lick my @$$.
Rob,
As far as I'm concerened Twitter can lick my nuts also.
John, cell phones operate at a higher frequency than a 2m hand held radio though. And that's the potential problem. 2m is 144mhz to 148 mhz range. Cell freq range is in the upper 800's. I don't think it's an issue because of the low wattage (.5 watts or so) but just sayin'.
You may not get cancer ,but what about the other troubles that occur that are not cancer.
Of course there's no link between cell phones & cancer, can you imagine the class action law suit for that one. Not to mention the governments of the world not being able to track everyone with a sudden drop in cell phone usage.
It's like the God argument from believers: You can't prove that God doesn't exist, therefore he MUST! Be on the safe side folks; use speaker phone whenever possible.
As Paul said imagine the law suits if there were.
Think about this. Cell phones have been around for years and the first people to have them and continue to have them are the folks with more money ie the rich. If the rich were getting higher ncidents of cancer the curts would be FULL of lawsuits.
I also have radios that operate at 440 megahertz, half the frequency of cell phones.
I have not heard of a problem using such UHF radios.
If there's a risk, there's a risk. As long as some studies still show a possible connection between cell phone usage and brain tumors, that's enough for me. I've spoken to doctors (Dr. Herberman's team at the Pittsburgh Cancer Institue and Professor Henry Lai from the University of Washington) doing research on cell phones during undergrad and they even use precautions when using cell phones...
Sadly, in 10, 20 years we will know for sure the effects of cell phone usage. A true better safe than sorry moral to the story...
P.S. Just the fact alone that more and more people are developing brain gliomas during the past two decades should be reason to suspect that something in our human behavior, whether it be computers, cell phones, wifi signals etc... might be the cause.