honestly I was expecting some cynical elitist remark along the lines of "it's just darwin weeding the losers out". Well it still may come, our society is full of people who think that way......
Clearly, Rhode Islanders either aren't very serious about suicide, or they are very incompetent killers. From other crime statistics, I think we can discount the latter. So it must be that Rhode Islanders are just drama queens.
to dear lisa!! Would not YOU want help if you needed it, and if it was severe enough would not you want someone to maybe pay attention and make you feel important enough..
There are multiple problems one finds in a capitalistic nation which many citizens have to face. Money is a major problem with the lack of it. Today's wannadiecitizen has lost hope in alternatives.
There is protocol for avoding suicide but is it the only answer to the feelings of suicide?
Kyle, you have a wonderful track record of completely ignorant, and outright rude comments on a variety of articles. Decency to your fellow human would go a long way.
JohnCarter & lisa, Clearly Rhode Islanders banned together to find a way to make national news, that is an entirely logical statement to make and then blindly agree with.
If any of the above three don't understand where my comments come from...then look at your own profiles and realize the rest of the world can see every opinion you ever had on this website. If I dug deeper I could find your opinions on other websites too, welcome to the 21st century, where nothing is secret.
Jeff, even as a Rhode Islander, I agree this does appear to be the ironic news story of the day.
Rhode Island is, and always has been in a unique position, in that it is one of the most influential birthplaces of our modern society, yet is disregarded by most as to having any influence on anything. Detroit is fawned over in its economic despair and how it was once the booming city of the auto industry, but without Pawtucket and Slater Mill, Detroit wouldn't have ever risen as a center for industry. Without, so many of things in Rhode Island's history things in this country would be vastly different. A state that is the size of an average county in the rest of the country is the birthplace of the industrial revolution, and the modern game of basketball. Don't believe me? Two names, Samuel Slater and Frank Keaney. Google those names, and learn something.
At the same time back off the bashing of the state. Just because we're the smallest kid in the school doesn't mean we can't fight back.
So, either the citizens of Rhode Island are just putting on a show and down really mean to commit suicide or they are just incompetent in the matter. Even with their 2nd Amendment rights seriously restricted, it would not prevent someone with even minimal mechanical ability from creating a single shot shotgun from steel pipe that can be found at any plumbing supply or home improvement store. Even without that, surely Rhode Island has some tall buildings or bridges that someone can jump from, right? If you can't manage to kill yourself, either you are not really wanting to do it or you are just too stupid to be able to accomplish it. Considering the fact that we're talking about Yankees here, it's probably a combination of the two...
So RI residents just can't get the job done. Are they lacking good ideas on how to do it right the first time or are they lazy? I don't know what's worse. Wanting to kill yourself and failing during the attempt or knowing you just can't do anything right the first.
HA HAA, Youre really funny aren't you...and uneducated too, it certainly takes one to know one, and OBVIOUSLY you know no one, pertinent to you that knows nothing about the actual pertinent content of this article!! You can simply go @!$%# yourself!!! Hope you know how to do that..
People will usually send out various signals that they may commit suicide. If you hear someone speak of killing or harming themselves, listen and get professional help for them. People who talk about it are crying for help, others who are serious, just do it.
Teenagers have the highest rates, listen to them and report those conversations to parents, teachers or the police.
With the numbers of people who are on antidepressants here it is no wonder they are killing themselves. Have you ever read the label on some of this crap?(suicide seems to be the main side effect of most of them and/or depression) Doctors pass it out to every person who is unhappy about anything . Hasn't anyone heard that life sucks and you have to just do whatever it takes to make it suck a little less and live with the rest of it?
Living here in RI and seeing the numbers of just school kids alone who are on some of this s h i t I would suspect that it will probably get worse.
To smmfdmh I do 1/2 agree with you on the hype of OVERMEDICATING, whom imcopentent not all straight A doctors...However, depression and mental health at the right level of necessity...DOES WARRANT medication, along with THERAPY, there are horrendous side effects to all meds....they are required to put every side effect even if it happened in their panel test of 1 in 1,000 patients...
I just like to stress the medical condition of mental health, you WERE BORN with a BRAIN, is that not you?? Or part of your PHYSICAL makeup???
I fight for my right to be treated with dignity like ANY OTHER>>disabled candidate, no matter who they are or why they are disabled...believe it or not, paralyzed people can live very productive and active lifestyles...so maybe you could try paralysis for a way of life...it may get you through, just fine!
These suicide attempts are only costing this nation more in medical cost. Someone once told me that if you try and commit suicide and fail, you really did not want to die, I believe this to be true, because there a proven ways to commit suicide that guarantee you will die.
Wow dudes, and it really appears to be all dudes...well to be honest I've been online for 7 years and have NEVER participated in an articles discussion...now I KNOW WHY! However, I am aware of comments I read on other various topics and know it's usually 50/50 of empathy or patheticness, vulgar rude , stupid, insensitive remarks....Now I could give a @!$%# that Rhode Island is the topic in this article, since, by the way, I myself am suffering again from suicidal thoughts since my Mom passed, and I have too, been frigging unemployed now 2 friggin years....here in the heartland, good ol' Wiconsin, just a jump from Illinois where I herald from, with my first suicide thoughts at age 25..As of age 33 , in Wisconsin, during particular scary times finally erupting into my work life...I sought therapy for the first time and have been there now...uh..16 years, once suicidal, most always, it's like any other disease, you are RARELY cured of all the ravenous thoughts and feelings, throughout your life....back in 1945 unbeknownst to me...my dear Grandmother, who as of 1945 as a woman in hearbreak over the loss of her husband...took her life with a gun to the head, and my dear, dear father, had to find her....he later, lost his brother for the same reason...many many moons later after much research I discovered bipolar esp. is inherited, and suicide risk goes up just automatically just for that, let alone all the other @!$%# that can happen in life....
Do I have one point here?? NO, I can never write anything short...I also have OCD.And many creative talents...and you know the makeup of many creative types, artist, musicians often take their lives..... I want to jump back to 2007 when I gave a speech here in Wisconsin for an Out of The Darkness walk, which is sponsored by the AFSP.and I did a great job, because the whole month of August was my worst and most threatening potentil suicide month in my whole life, I was 45 at the time..I have had a great life in regards to even having these debillitating diseases, but I kid you not...If I killed myself...you would have a hard time if you knew me to figure out why, because I am really a HAPPY BITCH who at times, really bad times even, can save face and not bring others down with my problem..
LUCKILY AND THANK GOD..Wisconsin is a darn good state to me for help...But I have heard enough of suicides right here...a few too close....The friggin state you live in I could really give a hoot.you don't get suicidal from just living in Rhode Island...
So, in my speech, with all the stigma and retarded, which means slow, uneducated folks not supporting the need or necessity to feel for mental health issues, and the communities everywhere should get it together to increase their resources and education, because it is no shocker in the news now...that like suicide is a craze among teens...younger and younger! But the truth about it, there is NO particulars whatsoever....
Now, to close this window for now....@!$%# basically all of you above...I'll come and kill you...how's that, maybe you'll take it seriously...but maybe not, cause you will be dead....do you know the Pearl Jam song when suicide starting being talked about...Jeremy was a kid in school, nice and quiet until he got ridiculed, then he through a hurtful, surprising 'left' to leave a jaw hurtin' an then shot himself in front of the class.....SOOOOOOOOOOO,
I just NOW WANT TO COMMENT and THROW a LITTLE LEFT PUNCH to the writers of the actual article,,,,,which............to be HONEST..I am MORE APALLED at the stupid, literally dangerous, careless remarks or wording they used, probably not intentionally.. but this should lighten them up..coming from a suicidal candidate...who takes everything pretty seriously, but I do have a good sense of humor so you know..I can be wonderful fun to know..
IN one line they said something I'm not sure I quite read right, but it made my jaw drop.. they said to an upbeat statistic...about no deaths happening much, she said,
IT is not a bad thing that they're not dying...blah, blah, blah...Why does she state it as if she's not really that glad that they're Not dying....just don't comprehend that coming from the professionals,
Number two they said was....guns are the most dangerous...but went on to say compared to other methods....the reason guns are the most accurate is.........It's easy to shoot yourself................WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
For my cause and my life and those who have been through the emotional throws of hell that all leads up to that demise, and I have had those girly attempts like Overdose, Monoxide, and road rage, and practicing my wrists with an exacto...that I can tell you, most people that die from depression and worse, are all very good, loving people that are just overly troubled from everything, and they may want to hold on so bad, and love who they love, and want to do things they used to, and to hopefull get better, and hopefully get the right help...when you are ready to do it, you absolutely are at your worst you can feel, and then comes the 100% hopelessness and no options, and still all that emotional PAIN AND TORTURE THAT YOU CANNOT STAND< THEN YOU HAVE NO OPTION BUT THE OPTION TO FEEL BETTER IS TO ABSOLUTELY ESCAPE THIS LIFE BY ANY MEANS...and if this poor person does NOT HAVE ACCESS OF ANY KIND TO GET HELP WITHOUT FEELING ASHAMED OR JUST NOT KNOWING WHO TO TURN TO>>>>well, I can be certain they will surely kill themselves if not then, very very soon later....
What I am trying to back up is that ASSININE COMMENT..it's easy to shoot yourself...I present this to you all.....Does all that pain sound fun>> and it may have been surfacing for years if not decades inside....TO me, and on behalf of my heartfelt commrades in pain,,,,NOTHING IS EASY>>>AT THAT POINT OF HELPLESSNESS AND AGONY< let alone actually resignation that the ONLY WAY OUT is to PUT A ....... GUN TO YOUR HEAD...IF YOU ALL THINK IT IS SO EASY AND SUCH A COPOUT>>WHY DOESN'T EVERBODY TRY IT FOR ATTENTION< OR EASE< OR FUN when they get really sad or upset or distraught, let alone all of other OUTSIDE aggravations, situations, circumstances etc....
Folks, I would like to be a spokesperson for the AFSP...I have my experiences to share as well as my survival tactics and the voice that those who didn't survive, never had the chance to really tell.....
Feeling better now..I understand good ol' America has it's voice to opinionate or whatever...what a great country... I only hope the compassionate and nice people prevail to carry on............
Family Guy was freakin right. People in Rhode Island are morons. Sweet!
Yes, that's clearly the appropriate response to an article about such a serious issue.
honestly I was expecting some cynical elitist remark along the lines of "it's just darwin weeding the losers out". Well it still may come, our society is full of people who think that way......
Sort of an ironic distinction since Rhode Island's motto is "Hope."
There's only hope moron if you are alive and well!!
Let the Bush blaming BEGIN!!!!!!
Clearly, Rhode Islanders either aren't very serious about suicide, or they are very incompetent killers. From other crime statistics, I think we can discount the latter. So it must be that Rhode Islanders are just drama queens.
Apparently the state is not getting enough attention so all these wannabe suicide attempts are just a cry out "look at me look at me"
You said it perfect - Drama Queens.
to dear lisa!! Would not YOU want help if you needed it, and if it was severe enough would not you want someone to maybe pay attention and make you feel important enough..
There are multiple problems one finds in a capitalistic nation which many citizens have to face. Money is a major problem with the lack of it. Today's wannadiecitizen has lost hope in alternatives.
There is protocol for avoding suicide but is it the only answer to the feelings of suicide?
Really?
Kyle, you have a wonderful track record of completely ignorant, and outright rude comments on a variety of articles. Decency to your fellow human would go a long way.
JohnCarter & lisa, Clearly Rhode Islanders banned together to find a way to make national news, that is an entirely logical statement to make and then blindly agree with.
If any of the above three don't understand where my comments come from...then look at your own profiles and realize the rest of the world can see every opinion you ever had on this website. If I dug deeper I could find your opinions on other websites too, welcome to the 21st century, where nothing is secret.
Jeff, even as a Rhode Islander, I agree this does appear to be the ironic news story of the day.
Rhode Island is, and always has been in a unique position, in that it is one of the most influential birthplaces of our modern society, yet is disregarded by most as to having any influence on anything. Detroit is fawned over in its economic despair and how it was once the booming city of the auto industry, but without Pawtucket and Slater Mill, Detroit wouldn't have ever risen as a center for industry. Without, so many of things in Rhode Island's history things in this country would be vastly different. A state that is the size of an average county in the rest of the country is the birthplace of the industrial revolution, and the modern game of basketball. Don't believe me? Two names, Samuel Slater and Frank Keaney. Google those names, and learn something.
At the same time back off the bashing of the state. Just because we're the smallest kid in the school doesn't mean we can't fight back.
Oh rhody, it's just alittle dig on an article.
This could have easily been any other state and I would have said the same thing.
So, I guess I have a stalker......
In typical Rhode Island fashion, we are always good at getting things started, but always seem to fall short on completion.
Bridge renovation; good start, not able to complete
Road reconstruction; good start, not able to complete
Car tax phase outs; good start, not able to complete
Tax breaks to bring in and keep big business for increased jobs; good start, not able to complete
Sales tax reduction to compete with MA; ; good start, not able to complete
Being the leading state in suicides; good start, not able to complete
So, either the citizens of Rhode Island are just putting on a show and down really mean to commit suicide or they are just incompetent in the matter. Even with their 2nd Amendment rights seriously restricted, it would not prevent someone with even minimal mechanical ability from creating a single shot shotgun from steel pipe that can be found at any plumbing supply or home improvement store. Even without that, surely Rhode Island has some tall buildings or bridges that someone can jump from, right? If you can't manage to kill yourself, either you are not really wanting to do it or you are just too stupid to be able to accomplish it. Considering the fact that we're talking about Yankees here, it's probably a combination of the two...
you should be a goner!! I think I have a new pasttime...so snuff off idiots like you with such grand ideas of solutions................
So RI residents just can't get the job done. Are they lacking good ideas on how to do it right the first time or are they lazy? I don't know what's worse. Wanting to kill yourself and failing during the attempt or knowing you just can't do anything right the first.
HA HAA, Youre really funny aren't you...and uneducated too, it certainly takes one to know one, and OBVIOUSLY you know no one, pertinent to you that knows nothing about the actual pertinent content of this article!! You can simply go @!$%# yourself!!! Hope you know how to do that..
People will usually send out various signals that they may commit suicide. If you hear someone speak of killing or harming themselves, listen and get professional help for them. People who talk about it are crying for help, others who are serious, just do it.
Teenagers have the highest rates, listen to them and report those conversations to parents, teachers or the police.
Of the 81+gun deaths per day in the USA. Over 50% are white males committing suicide...
If you are a failure at everything else in life, at least learn how to commit suicide effectively...
With the numbers of people who are on antidepressants here it is no wonder they are killing themselves. Have you ever read the label on some of this crap?(suicide seems to be the main side effect of most of them and/or depression) Doctors pass it out to every person who is unhappy about anything . Hasn't anyone heard that life sucks and you have to just do whatever it takes to make it suck a little less and live with the rest of it?
Living here in RI and seeing the numbers of just school kids alone who are on some of this s h i t I would suspect that it will probably get worse.
To smmfdmh I do 1/2 agree with you on the hype of OVERMEDICATING, whom imcopentent not all straight A doctors...However, depression and mental health at the right level of necessity...DOES WARRANT medication, along with THERAPY, there are horrendous side effects to all meds....they are required to put every side effect even if it happened in their panel test of 1 in 1,000 patients...
I just like to stress the medical condition of mental health, you WERE BORN with a BRAIN, is that not you?? Or part of your PHYSICAL makeup???
I fight for my right to be treated with dignity like ANY OTHER>>disabled candidate, no matter who they are or why they are disabled...believe it or not, paralyzed people can live very productive and active lifestyles...so maybe you could try paralysis for a way of life...it may get you through, just fine!
These suicide attempts are only costing this nation more in medical cost. Someone once told me that if you try and commit suicide and fail, you really did not want to die, I believe this to be true, because there a proven ways to commit suicide that guarantee you will die.
P...@!$%#in' S... Uh, my attempts only cost me you idiot, save your money for yourself!! I did not have any help....for most anyway...
And, what works for one NEVER ALWAYS works for another....give or take anything you dweeb..you make me sick
Wow dudes, and it really appears to be all dudes...well to be honest I've been online for 7 years and have NEVER participated in an articles discussion...now I KNOW WHY! However, I am aware of comments I read on other various topics and know it's usually 50/50 of empathy or patheticness, vulgar rude , stupid, insensitive remarks....Now I could give a @!$%# that Rhode Island is the topic in this article, since, by the way, I myself am suffering again from suicidal thoughts since my Mom passed, and I have too, been frigging unemployed now 2 friggin years....here in the heartland, good ol' Wiconsin, just a jump from Illinois where I herald from, with my first suicide thoughts at age 25..As of age 33 , in Wisconsin, during particular scary times finally erupting into my work life...I sought therapy for the first time and have been there now...uh..16 years, once suicidal, most always, it's like any other disease, you are RARELY cured of all the ravenous thoughts and feelings, throughout your life....back in 1945 unbeknownst to me...my dear Grandmother, who as of 1945 as a woman in hearbreak over the loss of her husband...took her life with a gun to the head, and my dear, dear father, had to find her....he later, lost his brother for the same reason...many many moons later after much research I discovered bipolar esp. is inherited, and suicide risk goes up just automatically just for that, let alone all the other @!$%# that can happen in life....
Do I have one point here?? NO, I can never write anything short...I also have OCD.And many creative talents...and you know the makeup of many creative types, artist, musicians often take their lives..... I want to jump back to 2007 when I gave a speech here in Wisconsin for an Out of The Darkness walk, which is sponsored by the AFSP.and I did a great job, because the whole month of August was my worst and most threatening potentil suicide month in my whole life, I was 45 at the time..I have had a great life in regards to even having these debillitating diseases, but I kid you not...If I killed myself...you would have a hard time if you knew me to figure out why, because I am really a HAPPY BITCH who at times, really bad times even, can save face and not bring others down with my problem..
LUCKILY AND THANK GOD..Wisconsin is a darn good state to me for help...But I have heard enough of suicides right here...a few too close....The friggin state you live in I could really give a hoot.you don't get suicidal from just living in Rhode Island...
So, in my speech, with all the stigma and retarded, which means slow, uneducated folks not supporting the need or necessity to feel for mental health issues, and the communities everywhere should get it together to increase their resources and education, because it is no shocker in the news now...that like suicide is a craze among teens...younger and younger! But the truth about it, there is NO particulars whatsoever....
Now, to close this window for now....@!$%# basically all of you above...I'll come and kill you...how's that, maybe you'll take it seriously...but maybe not, cause you will be dead....do you know the Pearl Jam song when suicide starting being talked about...Jeremy was a kid in school, nice and quiet until he got ridiculed, then he through a hurtful, surprising 'left' to leave a jaw hurtin' an then shot himself in front of the class.....SOOOOOOOOOOO,
I just NOW WANT TO COMMENT and THROW a LITTLE LEFT PUNCH to the writers of the actual article,,,,,which............to be HONEST..I am MORE APALLED at the stupid, literally dangerous, careless remarks or wording they used, probably not intentionally.. but this should lighten them up..coming from a suicidal candidate...who takes everything pretty seriously, but I do have a good sense of humor so you know..I can be wonderful fun to know..
IN one line they said something I'm not sure I quite read right, but it made my jaw drop.. they said to an upbeat statistic...about no deaths happening much, she said,
IT is not a bad thing that they're not dying...blah, blah, blah...Why does she state it as if she's not really that glad that they're Not dying....just don't comprehend that coming from the professionals,
Number two they said was....guns are the most dangerous...but went on to say compared to other methods....the reason guns are the most accurate is.........It's easy to shoot yourself................WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
For my cause and my life and those who have been through the emotional throws of hell that all leads up to that demise, and I have had those girly attempts like Overdose, Monoxide, and road rage, and practicing my wrists with an exacto...that I can tell you, most people that die from depression and worse, are all very good, loving people that are just overly troubled from everything, and they may want to hold on so bad, and love who they love, and want to do things they used to, and to hopefull get better, and hopefully get the right help...when you are ready to do it, you absolutely are at your worst you can feel, and then comes the 100% hopelessness and no options, and still all that emotional PAIN AND TORTURE THAT YOU CANNOT STAND< THEN YOU HAVE NO OPTION BUT THE OPTION TO FEEL BETTER IS TO ABSOLUTELY ESCAPE THIS LIFE BY ANY MEANS...and if this poor person does NOT HAVE ACCESS OF ANY KIND TO GET HELP WITHOUT FEELING ASHAMED OR JUST NOT KNOWING WHO TO TURN TO>>>>well, I can be certain they will surely kill themselves if not then, very very soon later....
What I am trying to back up is that ASSININE COMMENT..it's easy to shoot yourself...I present this to you all.....Does all that pain sound fun>> and it may have been surfacing for years if not decades inside....TO me, and on behalf of my heartfelt commrades in pain,,,,NOTHING IS EASY>>>AT THAT POINT OF HELPLESSNESS AND AGONY< let alone actually resignation that the ONLY WAY OUT is to PUT A ....... GUN TO YOUR HEAD...IF YOU ALL THINK IT IS SO EASY AND SUCH A COPOUT>>WHY DOESN'T EVERBODY TRY IT FOR ATTENTION< OR EASE< OR FUN when they get really sad or upset or distraught, let alone all of other OUTSIDE aggravations, situations, circumstances etc....
Folks, I would like to be a spokesperson for the AFSP...I have my experiences to share as well as my survival tactics and the voice that those who didn't survive, never had the chance to really tell.....
Feeling better now..I understand good ol' America has it's voice to opinionate or whatever...what a great country... I only hope the compassionate and nice people prevail to carry on............
HS
who the hell is family guy...gees intelligent serious folk who take the world seriously probably don't even watch tv...
To Jackie above, wonderful girl who UNDERSTANDS THE PROBLEM....Thank YOU!!