Wow. Are you also one of those people who quits taking your medicine when you feel better?
The piont of a vaccine is to PREVENT an outbreak. You don't wait until your engine is shooting busted rods through your freaking hood before you change your oil. You PREVENT damage by pre-emptively changing it.
This is how vaccines work. Perhaps you have never been to school to learn about it.
@ThisBusyMonster... huh, that is weird. I get flu shots to protect myself not my neighbor.
The point of a vaccine is to boost your OWN immunity to a disease. I tend to only change my own oil when I am working on my car... not my neighbors.
However with the new information I am going to call up my neighbor and tell both of them off and to keep away from me because they didn't get a flu shot this year.
I will also tell him to change his own damn oil.... unless he pays me and then I might do it. I mean he is a nice guy but I don't feel I feel I should have to change his oil.
I am glad to see parents finally are getting together and figured out that the schools are there to teach, not here to treat. ALL school based shots should be removed / banned. There are no need for them, not all children are the same, and not all shots the work for johnny will work for timmy or jane. Why they ever let schools start giving shots in the first place was beyond me. As a state EMT , I have seen these school "nurses" in action. And that in it's self is scary. Sure most of you remember the whole fluoride given by the schools, that did not work out well, so how and why would you think any kind of shots would either.
Let the schools worry about teaching for a change, and leave health care to the doctors.
I don't really have a problem with leaving health care to the doctors. However, are you willing to push for universal health care so everyone can afford it?
Hal, one of the points of this discussion you may have overlooked is that these dangerous diseases, some of which we only associate with third-world pesthole countries, are on the rebound here in America because of this anti-vaccine hysteria. It has exactly nothing to do with whether or not the schools are there to teach -- schools are brereding grounds for these kinds of diseases because of the close contact and constant mixing of the population that occurs.
For the same reason that hospital workers receive several rounds of immunizatiion per year, we as a society focus immunization fo rthe at-large public on the very young and the very old because they are vectors for spreading these diseaases to the rest of us. We vaccinate kids because that's where the vector is for all of these childhood maladies. Not doing so causes increased illness in the population at large, leading to lost productivity in business and of course unnecessary suffering and sometimes even death. Measles is a really nasty disease that most Americans have zero experience with because we used to be a responsible, functioning first-world society and had pretty much wiped it out here in the States. But now it is coming back, and I take no schadenfreude in knowing that in a few years the very idjits who took us down this path will be the first to suffer the consequences, because vaccines work only when they are applied on a large scale. All of us will be suffering from this stupidity soon.
If you chose to not vaccinate your children they should not be allowed to partake in any public venues; school, community and parks activities, public pools, etc. You maintain your right to make uneducated, irresponsible decisions and the rest of us don't have to risk the lives and well being of our children. It is your choice but when it endangers the lives others, especially children, YOU need to take responsibility and isolate your children from the innoculated public.
My son had a very bad reaction to his first vaccine shots. We are pretty sure he had swelling in the brain, judging from his cry (nothing we had heard before) many hours (that evening) after having the injection (no..it wasn't pain from the shot). We never reported it because we knew they would brush it off.
Really, is there an H1N1 outbreak? Oh yes, that was a load of bull turkey and who knows what they are you shooting you up with now a days!
My point........they have not a clue, talk about blind faith
Wow. Are you also one of those people who quits taking your medicine when you feel better?
The piont of a vaccine is to PREVENT an outbreak. You don't wait until your engine is shooting busted rods through your freaking hood before you change your oil. You PREVENT damage by pre-emptively changing it.
This is how vaccines work. Perhaps you have never been to school to learn about it.
@ThisBusyMonster... huh, that is weird. I get flu shots to protect myself not my neighbor.
The point of a vaccine is to boost your OWN immunity to a disease. I tend to only change my own oil when I am working on my car... not my neighbors.
However with the new information I am going to call up my neighbor and tell both of them off and to keep away from me because they didn't get a flu shot this year.
I will also tell him to change his own damn oil.... unless he pays me and then I might do it. I mean he is a nice guy but I don't feel I feel I should have to change his oil.
I am glad to see parents finally are getting together and figured out that the schools are there to teach, not here to treat. ALL school based shots should be removed / banned. There are no need for them, not all children are the same, and not all shots the work for johnny will work for timmy or jane. Why they ever let schools start giving shots in the first place was beyond me. As a state EMT , I have seen these school "nurses" in action. And that in it's self is scary. Sure most of you remember the whole fluoride given by the schools, that did not work out well, so how and why would you think any kind of shots would either.
Let the schools worry about teaching for a change, and leave health care to the doctors.
I don't really have a problem with leaving health care to the doctors. However, are you willing to push for universal health care so everyone can afford it?
Hal, one of the points of this discussion you may have overlooked is that these dangerous diseases, some of which we only associate with third-world pesthole countries, are on the rebound here in America because of this anti-vaccine hysteria. It has exactly nothing to do with whether or not the schools are there to teach -- schools are brereding grounds for these kinds of diseases because of the close contact and constant mixing of the population that occurs.
For the same reason that hospital workers receive several rounds of immunizatiion per year, we as a society focus immunization fo rthe at-large public on the very young and the very old because they are vectors for spreading these diseaases to the rest of us. We vaccinate kids because that's where the vector is for all of these childhood maladies. Not doing so causes increased illness in the population at large, leading to lost productivity in business and of course unnecessary suffering and sometimes even death. Measles is a really nasty disease that most Americans have zero experience with because we used to be a responsible, functioning first-world society and had pretty much wiped it out here in the States. But now it is coming back, and I take no schadenfreude in knowing that in a few years the very idjits who took us down this path will be the first to suffer the consequences, because vaccines work only when they are applied on a large scale. All of us will be suffering from this stupidity soon.
I hope the actions of these parents, whether willful or out of laziness, do not have an adverse effect on their children or their schoolmates.
In my opinion if you don't want the mandatory vaccination get your home school up and running.
If you chose to not vaccinate your children they should not be allowed to partake in any public venues; school, community and parks activities, public pools, etc. You maintain your right to make uneducated, irresponsible decisions and the rest of us don't have to risk the lives and well being of our children. It is your choice but when it endangers the lives others, especially children, YOU need to take responsibility and isolate your children from the innoculated public.
My son had a very bad reaction to his first vaccine shots. We are pretty sure he had swelling in the brain, judging from his cry (nothing we had heard before) many hours (that evening) after having the injection (no..it wasn't pain from the shot). We never reported it because we knew they would brush it off.
@paramed: I am right there with you buddy ! Nothing scares me more than some rug rat without a Polio vaccine !!
You know what else scares me? Terrorism... nope. Nuclear war... nope? Some kid without a Viracela vaccine... HELL YES !!!
Maybe people who aren't very rational and reasonable shouldn't be allowed to go out either.