Why didn't they publish the name of the jackass bringing PP under investigation? I want to make a donation to PP in his name, with his Congressional address listed to send the thank you card to.

"It has nothing to do with abortion. It's just that you're under investigation - by an anti-abortion activist."

Yep, let's get rid of abortion, not provide birth control, and then not provide services to indigent mothers. What a great plan. (sarcasm)

If Ms. Koman saves lives with her decision, and I think it will on two fronts, bless her.

My income isn't gigantic but I will send her charity against breast cancer as much as I can.

An admirable woman.

There are other venues for them to get their medical services provided by Komen. Better to stick to the real issue.

Setting us against one another -- that is the way for them to prevail.

Planned Parenthood is under investigation by the right wing? They have my vote!

Komen, don't cave to the right. "We must all hang together, or indeed we shall all hang separately." Ben Franklin was correct!

The Breast Cancer thing is MUCH over publicized. Doing mammos and screenings for low income women is GREAT.. But the "pink" everything has gotten to be a "millions of dollars" business for a LOT of companies.

There will NEVER be a "cure" because too many big corporations and their investors use women's health (and vanity....sorry!) to their advantage.....and to grow their bottom line. Do you EVER wonder just how much of their profits REALLY go to the Cancer Foundation??????

According to Komen, this applies to Planned Parenthood because it’s the focus of an inquiry launched by Rep. Cliff Stearns, R-Fla., seeking to determine whether public money was improperly spent on abortions.

That's from Washington Post (which Planned Parenthood linked to on their FB page).

Now everyone go find your local Relay for Life and donate to them. The money in part goes to helping those battling cancer cover day to day expenses while in treatment.

For me, Planned Parenthood wins. No more pink stuff for me.

Planned Parenthood wins! No more pink for me.

It's funny how Republicans claim to be pro-life but end up doing things like this that promote pro-death. They don't give a damn about ANYONE that is outside the womb. Once you are born they could care less if die. Just look at their policies they are promoting.

If the Right to Lifers cared so much about unborn children each and every one of them would be adopting as many children as they can from mothers who do not want them. Sadly, the vast majority of RtL's will NEVER do that because it costs them money.

Like I said they don't care about anyone once they have left the womb. They are total hypocrites.

I know that's the last penny I donate to Komen. You want to go with the anti-abortionists-I'll send my money to PP (in Congressman Cliff Stearn's name, the a**hole who started the BS investigation).

The Komen foundation is a disgrace anyway. They care more about their trademarks than anything else. Any time someone uses "for the cure" for their own cancer fundraiser, the Komen foundation sends out their lawyers.

I think anti abortion people are right but, care for the children who need the help now. Who are actually alive.

If if not, then the majority of you are following the Republican Leaders Agenda's instead of your own.
Fight for the lives of children everywhere or else you are FAKING IT!!!!

Having this opinion because others who you are around have this opinion.

If you are REAL about the plight of children we will see it.
But, right now we write you off just like most of the people now aren't gay.
They are more so following a FAD!!!!!

Granted there are those who are truly for the rights of children and who are truly gay but, the fakes who surround the real usually drown them out.

How can you support children under only one category????
ABORTION!!!!

You have to support them across the board or else you are faking it!!!!!!

I'm scraping the pink off my car right now.

What a stupid decision.

Planned Parenthood does so much good in our community to help women.

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Pink is the new yellow!

With the new healthcare legislation that was passed there will be no need for low income women's health clinics as everyone will have to buy insurance and will be covered to go see a GYN.

Planned Parenthood is losing it's backing due to it's policies and a shift in the way healthcare is being paid for.

DarkShadow1701 - thank you for bringing up the issue of them suing to protect the "for the cure" trademark. I was so disgusted when I heard that they spent hundreds of thousand of dollars suing other organizations that used that term, I decided that I could no longer support them. All charitable organizations that try to raise funds for the prevention of any disease should be on the same side. And the money they spent suing was raised by people like me who participated in the "race for the cure" fundraisers, soliciting donations from my family and friends, believing that money would go toward breast exams, not lawsuits.

Well, that's more money from me that I will send to Komen. I didn't like the fact they would use my donated money to help fund Planned Parenthood. Now I will donate more knowing it won't go to planned parenthood.

[D]uring an Oct. 25, 1994, debate with Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., Romney said: "Many, many years ago, I had a dear, close family relative that was very close to me, that passed away from an illegal abortion. It is since that time my mother and my family have been committed to the belief that we can believe as we want, but we will not force our beliefs on others on that matter, and you will not see me wavering on that."

Romney's relative was a 21-year-old named Ann Keenan. The sister of Romney's brother-in-law, Keenan died in 1963 from an infection following what her death certificate described as a "septic criminal recent abortion." Her parents directed that "Memorial tributes may be sent to the Planned Parenthood Association." Although many of the details of Keenan's death are unknown, the story offers a terrible reminder of the risks women were forced to take before Roe v. Wade.

Superstitious Neo-fascists on the march. I hope women remember this at the polls - and remember to get themselves to the polls.

I've been a supporter of the Komen cancer group for many years - including participating in the Race for the Cure. No more...whatever I was donating to that group (and it was substantial) is now going to PLANNED PARENTHOOD.

Damned officious right-wing relgious zealots who want less government - but are not against government interferring in people's personal choices. I think I will double the contribution now to PP than what I was giving to Komen.

STLMike - yes keep donating to Kohmen so they can spend it all suing other organizations instead of doing what they are suppose to be doing - helping women. The funds that they are taking away from PP were specifically to provide low income women with breast exams. But I guess only insured women need breast exams, right Mike?

The cancer we need to get rid of is Planned Parenthood and Komen is just helping to cure it.

Komen has lost my support and I will certainly be vocal about their asinine decision to withdraw their support from Planned Parenthood. Who made this bonehead decision?!?! Don't they realize they are listening to a minority (anti-choicer's) they are just loud and getting a lot of publicity?

BIG MISTAKE!!!

Do some research on the Komen foundation and you will find asininely overpaid executives and ridiculous perks and spending. 24 cents on every dollar is all that goes to research.
They sic lawyers on anybody that uses a pink ribbon in their org's logo.
Just another organization that has lost sight of their core values.

Toosano -

And you think that Planned Parenhood executives aren't overpaid? They have even higher overhead expenses than the Konen Foundation!

At least the Komen Foundation isn't on the government teat!

Since abortion demonstrably increases the risk of breast cancer, I am shocked that Komen would ever support Planned Parenthood. It's like donating funds to Phillip Morris. Anti Science liberals want to refute this link.

Wow, the religious right has resorted to using @!$%#ing BREAST CANCER as a weapon to ban abortion. This is just disgusting and unconscionable.

My company and my employees (Yes I said MY company) have donated a minimum of $100,000 annually for a decade now participating in the Race for the Cure. No more.

We will now direct our attention and donations to Planned Parenthood. This was under consideration prior to this announcement in that our committee was more than disappointed to see the amount of legal fees and threats by the Komen Foundation towards people/communities/businesses organizing fundraising events under the 'pink' umbrella and were threatened with lawsuits should they do so.

Komen Foundation has turned out to be a 'bullying' foundation. They certainly don't live up to what they 'pretend' they represent. I think this also raises the question of time to investigate the 'administratve' costs at Komen as they certainly have lost focus on what the organization stands for. It's got the echoes of a Board forcusing on profit -- for personal pockets more than for the need for what this started out as. Sounds like a 'Too Big to Fail' attitude when they threaten to sue you because you want to hold an event to fundraise for them. Money talks -- but it's those that donate that hold the purse strings in this case!!!!!

I hope others join me in forwarding this story to the various organizations, foundations and committees you belong to, to friends who may be involved with fundraising or know someone who is as they may then forward it to them -- to make them aware as to what Komen is doing. I, like many, have group lists for sending out information as to events, etc. I've just forwarded this story together with fundraising plan changes my company will be making and why -- it being sent to approximately 800 organizations/organization committees before this comment post. By worth of mouth (email!), that then will be forwarded to their lists. This kind of information 'mushrooms'.

I haven't even finished composing this comment, when I walked into the hallways of my company and all posters and products of 'pink' and connection to Komen 'Race for the Cure' have been removed. There is no pink to be scene.

Onward and upward with Planned Parenthood!!

But the "pink" everything has gotten to be a "millions of dollars" business for a LOT of companies.

Damn right it has! It's called "cause marketing" and it's BIG BUCKS ... and not just for the charities involved

My company and my employees (Yes I said MY company) have donated a minimum of $100,000 annually for a decade now participating in the Race for the Cure. No more.

I agree. Ridiculous ... Koman is more into their name and trademark than a cure. Hundreds of thousands spent on lawyers

I think all of this is just TOO CONTROVERSAL BASICALLY IN INDIANA THEY TRIED TO PASS A LAW THAT STATED BREAST CANCER WAS CAUSED BY HAVING AN ABORTION A WOMAN SENATOR TRIED TO PASS THE LEGISLATION THIS IS WHY KOMEN IS DISTANCING ITSLEF FROM PLANNED PARENTHOOD.

Many people believe that breast cancer is caused by having an abortion.

And since breast cancer is caused because of abortions many people believe if we just end birthcontrol because taking a birthcontrol pill is also an abortion acording to certain people all breast cancer will go away once birthcontrol and abortion are made illegal so why research it..

This will be the 1st of many steps by certain groups to end breast cancer funding

I do not agree and I think this is religion preventing women from having reproductive healthcare

"If Ms. Koman saves lives with her decision, and I think it will on two fronts, bless her. An admirable woman."

Another anti-abortion person with no grasp of facts. Susan Koman died over 30 years ago.

I'm going to do my part and not donate another cent to the group but will go with the American Cancer Society instead.

Another anti-abortion person with no grasp of facts. Susan Koman died over 30 years ago.

Is that when they started contributing to planned parenthood?

I have just been advised that the National Film Board of Canada - nfb.ca - has done a documentary which was shown at the Toronto International Film Festival (TIFF), said film opening in Canadian theaters on Feb 3, 2012. I don't know about release in U.S. but will be researching it.

"Breast cancer has become the poster child of cause-related marketing campaigns - people walk, run and shop for the cure. Each year, millions of dollars are raised in the name of breast cancer, but where does this money go and what does it actually achieve? And what happens when a company engages in pinkwashing?"

"PINK RIBBONS, INC. is a feature documentary that shows how the devastating reality of breast cancer, which marketing experts have labeled a “dream cause,” has been hijacked by a shiny, pink story of success"

From tiff.net site: "Pink Ribbons, Inc. focuses primarily on the increased involvement of corporations in fundraising campaigns — which goes as far as outright ownership in some cases — and the impact it’s had on the charities. According to the film, the undue emphasis on awareness and the search for a cure has skewed the types of research being done. A doctor explains how there’s little data on the cause of breast cancer. Which raises the question: how do you cure something if you don’t know what causes it?" (Interesting thought and question)

"One of the central issues in the film is the disease’s status as the poster child for what activist Barbara Brenner deems “cause mar­keting,” a kind of microcosmic variation on disaster capitalism, rife with hypocrisy and awash in money. From car manufacturers to fast food companies to professional sports leagues, corporations have wholeheartedly embraced the effort — but many of the campaigns to raise money have done more for the companies than for the cause. Fuelled by informative and often chilling interviews with activists, patients, former patients and writers (including authors Barbara Ehrenreich and Samantha King, who wrote one of the first studies of the “industry”), Pink Ribbons, Inc. is a ferocious and infuriating exposé"

nfb ca/film/pink_ribbons_inc_trailer

net/filmsandschedules/tiff/2011/pinkribbonsinc

Wonder how much Komen 'profits' from all these products too???

Note: I have put a space between www nfb and between nfb and ca and put a space between tiff and net as when first posted the link, it was not included. Replace the spaces with a period

If links do not show again, I did a search for Pink Ribbons Inc and found the NFB(dot)ca site which contains a short trailer and the TIFF(dot)net site to read about the documentary. Would love to see it.

Well, looks like I won't be making any donations to the Komen Foundation this year.

The majority of women today are pro-life. The media and the pro-choice folks just don't talk much about that. That means we are finally moving in the right direction.

I was asked today if I was a conservative. I said yes. The person asked if I would restrict abortion and I said I would not, but I absolutely believe that having an abortion is morally corrupt. For most it is a selfish act and often repeated over the over again.

Chelsey Handler said this last night. She said she was almost a mom - twice and then laughed as if having an abortion was no big thing. Sad. For those of us that seriously feel great angst about abortions, it is no laughing matter.

Since abortion demonstrably increases the risk of breast cancer, I am shocked that Komen would ever support Planned Parenthood.

Gary 420 - And I'm shocked at how utterly, totally, completely ignorant you are. How about citing a reference from a legitimate medical journal from which you gleaned this asinine "fact"?

It's ironic that you happen to be a man and you are commenting on breast cancer. Yes, men can also develop breast cancer, but the focus here is on women.

The majority of women today are pro-life.

I guess you're referring to the 2009 Gallup poll. I'm not surprised to hear public opinion sway in the onslaught of anti-abortion propaganda people have been exposed to, but all people need is a reminder of the consequences to society and to women of black market abortions and I think they would come to their collective senses.

And you are wrong that "abortion is often repeated over and over again". The majority of people who get abortions get just one. My mom was one of them. She got pregnant after raising three kids. I had a girlfriend who got pregnant and had an abortion many years ago. I am not morally corrupt. My mother is not morally corrupt. Your projection of morality onto others, however, draws your moral fortitude into question.

It is not government's role in the world to impose its member's morality onto others...it's not right if the views are held by the majority, and its not right if the views are held by the minority. It's just not right and I seriously doubt this country will allow people like you and others to take it backward.

I am sure all you so called compassionate conservatives will have no problem paying increased taxes to feed, house, give health care to and educate and incarcerate all these new low income babies. Or maybe your grand plan is to cut SS and Medicare and let all those ugly old people die and then use the money for supporting these un-wanted children you will force poor people to have.... but no you can't do that you Rethugs already promised all the money you will get from destroying middle class safety nets to the 1%.

Yeah. You go ahead and say that until your child's or loved one's life is in danger from a life threatening pregancy like an ectopic or hemorage, or maybe even a pregnancy from the drunk sicko reletive that took advantage of them and the horrific pregnancy resulted. Oh! And by the way? You just keep your flashlight and latex gloves out just to check up your entourage's female skirts or panties to make sure she didn't abort or have a period. That's what they did Romania and probably do in Iran with their pro-life practices in such civilized countries.

I hate abortion just like I hate obnoxious lawyers or an AK-47...but they are there to be used for an uncelebratory reason...because we just may need them. You can think that is pro-life, but in the end, there is always a choice given some tragic circumstances.

Since abortion demonstrably increases the risk of breast cancer, I am shocked that Komen would ever support Planned Parenthood.

Funny, that's not what the American Cancer Society says. In fact, ACS confirms that your view has been debunked.

You should probably update your knowledge on this matter, lest you be accused of lying to scare women away from abortion. Good people don't lie for political gain. That's the realm of evil people...just fyi.

theboys,

Please understand that it is mostly because of the labels 'pro-life', 'pro-choice', etc. that is a huge issue and causes much of the grief along with the fact of 'men' making the decisions for a woman's body and mind. If they could get pregnant, some may have a different view.

I, as a Dem, had my special needs child. It was not a 'pro-life issue' in my mind. It was my 'choice'. I was in a position to love and care for her as it is a huge responsibility -- a lifetime responsibility. Not everyone is in that position. To be physically or mentally be able to do it. The other issue of course if it is because of rape or incest. This topic IMO is an individual's 'choice'.

The speeches about mandating healthcare and the GOP not wanting it - yet to make a change about abortion could be identified and labelled as 'mandating' a woman to have the child. That's more government in your life.

I wish people would understand -- As a Dem, we don't run out to get pregnant to have an abortion. That's not at the top of the list of 'Things To Do'. Should it happen, it is the 'choice' of that person -- not mine, not your's.

As for Handler laughing -- please understand that some people laugh at things that we may deem inappropriate but it very well could be a release mechanism in that if you don't laugh you cry. An abortion because of medical issues or the inability to be able to provide stability to a child -- it is traumatic to 99.9% of women. My mother's alzheimer's -- if I don't laugh and sometimes make jokes, I'd be in a constant puddle.

Texas pam - you have the most rational, pragmatic attitude toward abortion that I have ever heard voiced by someone who hates abortion. Thank you for being able to see that women need access to legal abortions because there just may come a time when it's necessary. That is what the abortion rights law and this country are all about...which is that we women need the right to be able to make our own decisions about our bodies, including the right to have an abortion, but it doesn't mean that everyone is required to exercise that right if it is against her moral convictions.

A big thank you to "Physicist-retired" at #1.29 and "meede1" at #1.34 & #1.40 for your comments and good information.

It is so nice to see what I (or we) can do that will be constructive. Sorry this is so far down, but this was the first "reply" button I saw. Thank you both VERY MUCH!

We keep using the titles "pro-life" and "pro-choice". The odd thing is that it is all about only choice, not life at all. Most Pro-lifers could care less about the welfare of children, proven by the backlash against the new health system and the "let 'em die" mentality. They advocate for war and love the death penalty. So much for caring about life.

Let's call it what it is, Pro Choice or Religious Police. Sending check to PP now. Tossing pink ribbon.

I do not agree with abortion as a choice to be made under normal circumstances, but that choice is far better then having an "unwanted child" that grows up without a family to care for him/her. Rape and risk pregnancy abortions are choices that one can understand making.

Legal abortion is far better than forcing women to illegal abortion and having a child they will not care for.

All these pro-lifers don't ever think about all the children in adoption homes that grow up without a family to love them. If you are truly a pro-lifer, than you will adopt and care for as many children as you can afford to take care of. If you are not willing to take care of these children, then you are not really concerned about whether a fetus is aborted or not. You are just trying to force your moral beliefs on others and really are un-American (separation of Church and State).

If we could get Religion out of our Government, this Country will do much better than it has been. As the Nation with one of the highest teenage pregnancy, we need to start teaching our children early about sexual contact and safe sex. Countries that do this are among the Nations with the lowest teenage pregnancy rates. We will reduce the number of abortions too.

We need to get off of the "Holier than Thou" high horse and get with the program. By denying humans natural sexual urges exist, the Religious Right is a primary cause of teenage pregnancy and of abortions.

I wish there was no need for abortions, but the fact is they are necessary. It is not fair to force a child to be born that will not ever have the chance to be loved by their natural family. Pro-lifers are morally corrupt for believing they have the Right to force a child to grow up without the love of their natural parents.

Abortions will be necessary until humans achieve Utopia.

I too will be very cautious of the charity I donate to, especially since my mother is a breast cancer patient. I will not donate to any Charity that has any Religious or moral view they subscribe to. A Charity has to be amoral in order to be truly a charity.

I think many women are pro-life for themselves, but I also think that from that pool of pro-life many are pro-choice for others.

Planned Parenthood kills babies, Komen cures women. Who should you send money to?

Planned Parenthood. I'm not interested in your anti-Constitutional rants about how government should use the law to force women to carry a baby to term. It's not your decision to make, period. It never has been and never will be.

Tell you what, JB. Why don't you offer to give up a few of your civil rights before you argue for taking away other peoples'.

doncorneo,

If I may, may I suggest an idea. That you find a local charity that is involved with providing services to families in your area, especially single moms, that provide help and assistance to them when they are going through treatment for breast cancer.

There are groups that help by providing assistance by helping with the kids so the Mom can go for treatment or after treatment, to be able to rest; they help with household chores, etc. Many number of things as not everyone has family members close by.

This way it is still within the charitable donation with respect to breast cancer.

Pog8 #1.50 - You are welcome!! I appreciate when other's provide information and I like to do the same when I find info of interest.

Wouldn't want to be associated with someone being investigated by Congress for being... Communist. This ugly episode sounds too familiar, doesn't it.

So I'm sure the words "withdraw your support for planned parenthood, or we'll investigate you as well" never got said or inferred?

The tactics of the right are despicable. These people need to leave NOW.

tapado

Not to be sick, but unfortunately that is a good thing, as horrible as it is. The Earth is already over populated, and that would make it even worse.

It would be great to know your source. Mainly, for accuracy (the right wing-nuts tend to blow the numbers up higher than they really are), and to see if that is strictly abortions or includes deaths of babies too. To me it sounds like the later.

Planned Parenthood does not kill babies. No agency that I have ever heard of kills babies. They pay for abortions to prevent an "unwanted" baby from being born. They prevent a child from growing up without the love of its natural parents, and worse, no real family at all. So yes my money will go to PP so that even 1 child is spared that type of life.

If you believe it is so wrong, why aren't you offering to adopt those unborn babies? Whether a baby is born is less an issue as all those children growing up in adoption centers and group homes with no family to take care of them. Try to think how it would feel to be that child. You are forcing them to grow up that way. If you are not actively helping them grow up with a family, then being against abortions you are part of the problem.

Do some good and advocate teaching children about sex BEFORE they are able procreate so they will know how to "prevent an accidental pregnancy". We know abstinence does not work, after all, sex is a natural human urge, so don't preach useless rhetoric. Anyone who knows the FACTS is less likely to experiment with life changing results.

I happen to agree with the Komen. I have given to that charity for years and will continue to do so. The only thing that is separating PP from Komen is the fact that PP does abortions. Why should anyone have to give up breast cancer treatment to pay for someone else's abortion? Doesn't all women have breasts? For you to say that you would rather support PP than Komen is a big mistake. PP in my neighborhood does absolutely nothing in helping women. You would get better treatment by going to a local clinic. The people on this site are all a bunch of men posing as women in order to swing the vote towards PP.

There isn't a surefire way to treat breast cancer but there is a surefire way to prevent an unwanted pregnancy. You all know what it is and it doesn't require any money. I think we should spend the money where it is needed the most such as curing an actual disease rather than killing an unborn just because someone's libido got too high.

The people on this site are all a bunch of men posing as women in order to swing the vote towards PP.

I don't know about that but one thing for sure is they support the leftist agenda.

Aside from the particular issues this resolves around this sets a VERY bad precedent. If a foundation withdraws support from an organization simply because they are under investigation, then anyone in a position to do so could launch an investigation (Note not even have any real charges) simply to stop funding to an organization that does not meet their political agenda.
People,companies and organizations get investigated all the time, most times nothing comes of it. This is guilty until proven innocent. THis is bad.

To those who are right wing, I am sure you support some organizations that are presently being investigated for one thing or another. For instance the Republican Party of Florida and Minnesota are currently under investigation...I am sure you support those organizations.

To those who want to support Womens Health Issues including Breast Cancer I suggest
THe Phyllis Newman's Womens Health Initiative

http://www.phyllisnewman.com/healtcare-initiative.html

About her:
Phyllis Newman is a Tony Award-winning actress, a director, a writer and truly a Broadway baby. In June 2009 she received her second Tony Award, the newly created Isabelle Stevenson Award for creating the Phyllis Newman Women's Health Initiative of the Actor's Fund in 1996.

Rated 4 Stars (Highest) by Charity Navigator it is a part of the Actors Fund

If I want my $$$ to go towards breast cancer, then I'll donate to Komen. If I want my $$$ to go towards abortions, then I'll contribute to PP. Komen has a responsibility to protect themselves and those they help. It is in their best interest to distance themselves from an organization that is being investigated. Otherwise, they'll be collateral damage.

When women need screening or medical treatment for breast cancer, they can go to Komen. That is what they do. They are not keeping anyone from getting a screening or medical care.

I'm all about donations to Cancer Prevention, Never much cared for PP. Have seen what their offices look like, and work like from the patients side. No follow up care, no personal care. Just get in, say a few words, show a few pamplets, Don't offer counseling, then explicit surgery, and see ya later. I was more worried I would catch something contagious there, than to get a bad test result.

There are other free clinics that can, and will do the work better than PP. Latino Clinics, Community Clinics (yes you have to wait in line a significant amount of time at these clinics) but with guaranteed documentation, certified DR. Diploma's, and Physicians who want to give back to the community, these clinics far outshine (probably because they have less regulations from the federal government oversight) any PP orifices anyday.

Men and Women have choice when it comes to abortion. It starts with knowing your partner, planning ahead (IE Discussing it). If you don't agree with your partner as to what happens after a pregnancy starts (planned or unplanned), then that partner is probably not someone you wish to continue with. USE CONDOMS, if not for you, then for the 20 people that your partner has probably been with before, or might be with after (HIV can hide for years- get tested annually if you've had more than one partner -Women should also think about HPV and get innoculated). If your anti-abortion, and you meet someone who has a past abortion, you should make your decision about further relationship now, before waiting a year and saying oh SHPLIP I hate abortionist, and the people who get them, (As a CHRISTIAN, you should forgive the sinner, and hate the sin of abortion, as it's not our place to condemn or judge).

If your one of the bloggers here giving up on KOMEN because of this incident, you should probably do more research, and quiet reflection/introspection/prayer about the right thing to do. Breast Cancer is Not Abortion. The two are only tied together for the purpose of Breast Cancer Awareness. The 500k donated, while not chump change, will not adversely affect the performance of PP of it's main purpose and original creation. In a nutshell, perform abortions, (The added services are less than 10% of their full business). I will not QUIT giving to KOMEN, nor the AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY.

I say let them help women with breast cancer. But if someone who is against abortions doesn't like it, they don't have to get help from them. No one said they needed to go there.

I hate Christians. They're a menace.

“A religious person is a dangerous person. He may not become a thief or a murderer, but he is liable to become a nuisance. He carries with him many foolish and harmful superstitions, and he is possessed with the notion that it is his duty to give these superstitions to others. That is what makes trouble. Nothing is so worthless as superstition. . . .”

— Marilla M. Ricker, "Science Against Creeds,"

1POV

KFC is under investigation...Komen takes $ from them
Ford is under investigation...Komen takes $ from them
Bank of America is under investigation...Komen takes $ from them
American Airlines is under investigation...Komen takes $ from them
Caterpillar is under investigation...Komen takes $ from them
Nestle is under investigation...Komen takes $ from them
Egglands Best is under investigation...Komen takes $ from them
Yoplait is under investigation...Komen takes $ from them
Dell is under investigation...Komen takes $ from them
Major League Baseball is under investigation...Komen takes $ from them
Lowes is under investigation...Komen takes $ from them
Merck is under investigation...Komen takes $ from them

AND

ASCO is under investigation...Komen gives $ to them
AACR is under investigation...Komen gives $ to them
WHO is under investigation...Komen gives $ to them

In fact EVERY corporate partner I checked except Hallmark Cards Stores was under some sort of investigation and every organization they gave grants to was as well.

See the slope?

Dave thing again.

It is not Christ and God who are the problem...it is just certain members of their fan club.

The point is PP is getting their funding from the govt. and Komen is getting their funding from contributions. If people withdraw their funding, Komen stand to lose more because it is not govt. sponsored. It's a shame really, because I think people should get to choose where their tax dollars go. It makes me hate having a liberal left. I can't do anything without them watching us over our shoulder.

To those who are right wing, I am sure you support some organizations that are presently being investigated for one thing or another. For instance the Republican Party of Florida and Minnesota are currently under investigation...I am sure you support those organizations.

Frankly True: Just like the democrats are supporting those under investigation from the Democratic Party of Kansas and Georgia.

The "religious right" is neither.

If you're associated, you're a part of the problem.

Unhapy-1583758

It's a shame -- not at all. Educate yourself -- PP does get funding from government, but is not totally funded by government. If Komen Foundation wants to play politics, which this is, and withdraw their grant to PP because of a right-winger pushing for an investigation which is to have the government funding pulled -- has that same odour of the destruction of ACORN. So your opening that Komen stands to lose more -- I don't give a rat's a*s. They sit there and slop up all those $$ from corporations under investigation and out the other side of their mouths, while they spew they've pulled funding because PP is under investigation -- says one thing - Komen are a band of hypocrites and as their focus has become too political and not for what their were founded for, I suspect there's more for me to find. Skeletons lie in everyone's closets.

They've lost as I posted earlier - $100,000 from MY company & employee fundraising. Based totally on their own stupidity -- hypocrisy. I'm pleased to have forwarded this story to over 800 corporate/committee/individuals to show what Komen's game is. I've received already within hours, almost 300 responses -- from people who run multi-division corporations who have confirmed they will be restructuring their corporate fundraising; to committees that will be addressing this issue at their next meeting; to individual that have said and I quote "Komen can go f*ck themselves", to others that have advised they have forwarded the story to their lists of groups of corporations and people that they have on file. The story will be passed on -- as in snowballing and Komen brought it upon themselves.

I anticipate from the corporations I've heard from after explaining why I felt as I did, I've cost Komen at least 4 to 5 MILLION tonight alone as I personally know some of these CEO's and their financial/charitable history. And I'm only ONE PERSON set out on this mission because of Komen's stupidity - hypocrisy. And I know I'm not the only one that will have done the same as I have.

Do I feel bad -- not in the slightest. As Komen is a charitable foundation, I have also raised the issue to have THEM investigated by sending the proper notification to the relevant people/areas needed. More than one can play this game -- and they just burned themselves. I will also be in receipt of, before week ending, all the financials as to what the Board members, etc. are being compensated, expenses, etc. Those babes won't know what hit them.

At this point, if they came out with a statement that they were wrong in their decisions -- they can whistle dixie. I will blow the lid off of Komen when I have all the documentation should I see, which I anticipate I will, if they are scamming the general public as they have clearly lost focus of the intent for which this foundation was founded.

Call me whatever you want -- I seriously don't give a rat's a*s.

Most excellent, meede1! Best way to get their attention is to hit them in the pocket book. Rock on! =:D

Tell you what, JB. Why don't you offer to give up a few of your civil rights before you argue for taking away other peoples'.

Why don't you take your own advice toasted.

What a shame. One would hope that organizations which share as their
charter and purpose the protection of women’s health, would see the wisdom in standing up to intimidation by zealots and bullies, and standing united against those small-minded people in this country whom desire to take away women’s rights to make their own decisions about their own bodies.

I have given significant support to both Planned Parenthood and the Susan G. Komen organizations over the past several years. I will continue to give, of course, but until the Komen organization reconsiders this errant decision and stands up to intimidation, my annual contributions to Komen will instead also go to Planned Parenthood.

I hate abortion just like I hate obnoxious lawyers or an AK-47...but they are there to be used for an uncelebratory reason...because we just may need them.

Two thunbs up texaspam!

There are numerous studies on the links between abortion and breast cancer. Here is the first website I found :http://www.abortionbreastcancer.com/index/

They cite a number of peer reviewed studies.

Thanks for that comment. Interestingly, this the first comment I can reply to. Seems MSNBC has locked up all the pro-abort comments that calvalcaded in the second this was posted.

There is an online petition to the Komen Foundation asking for that idiotic decision to be rescinded. I've always posted this to my FaceBook page. Maybe, we the people, can overcome.

http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/komen_2/?r_by=-4672929-yAX95zx&rc=confemail

I meant to say that I had JUST posted this link to my Face Book page - am obviously so distressed about this issue that I can't even type. LOL

http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/komen_2/?r_by=-4672929-yAX95zx&rc=confemail

Gary, the American Medical Association, American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, World Health Organization, and the US National Cancer Institute have all come to the uniform conclusion that there is no causative link between induced abortion and breast cancer.

Yes, there are many studies on the relationship between induced abortion and breast cancer, and just because the purpose of the study is to look for a relationship doesn't mean you'll find one. Especially if the relationship never existed in the first place.

And by the way, the Coalition on Abortion/Breast Cancer was founded by a pro-life activist with the support of Concerned Women for America, a conservative Christian U.S. political action group. That's hardly an objective voice on the issue.

Leave the science to the scientists.

As someone who raises money for a 501(c) (3) organization, I can tell you that any organization that depends on public or private financial support has a set of rules just like everyone else. If PP is under investigation – it doesn’t matter by who and what for – Komen can’t bend the rules “just this once.” And if PP broke the rules they agreed to abide under, they deserve to be investigated, just like everyone else. Grow up.

Dear Anti-Abortion folks,

I know this is a little off topic, but I can not take it anymore! Please cease the diatribes until you can logically answer these two questions...

1. When does life begin? This question can't be answered using any of the following; Bible, Morals, Jesus, God, Belief, Christianity, Religion, I feel, or I think. You need a definitive, credible scientific answer or your violating the 1st Amendment.

2. What is the uber-compelling, state reason, for banning abortion that is more important than protecting a woman's implied civil right to privacy? You can't answer this with "The fetus's right to life" until you answer number one properly. Even if that malarky about breast cancer being linked to abortions is true, it's still my choice to take that gamble.

This applies to any way you try to challenge Roe. Any Constitutional amendment, state statute, executive order, court case et. al. will all fail until you can answer those. The SCOTUS cases which have been reversed, have been able to establish a credible flaw in the underlying issue (a.k.a. answering question 1) and pass strict scrutiny (a.k.a. answering question 2).

Furthermore, the Hyde Amendment restricts government funds from being used on abortions.

Continuing, I have never asked the following of anyone...

• To give up their beliefs.
• To give up their religion.
• To give up their morals.
• To support me in any decision they may disagree with.
• To do anything contrary to said beliefs, morals, or religion.

In return, I would kindly thank you to keep those beliefs, morals, or religions out of my body.

Sincerely,

Me

In the court case Roe vs. Wade, the woman claimed she was raped which started the precedent. Years later it was revealed that she had lied under oath. The reason for her confession? She became a born again christian.

As far as PP is concerned, this organization can do whatever they want to do. If they want to provide abortions, then so be it. But DON'T do it with MY tax dollars! PP is govt. funded; let them go completely on donations if they feel it is that important to provide choices to women.

Sincerely, I would like to thank the above person who thinks that she speaks for all women. NOT!

OMG!!!

You know squat about this!!!

Furthermore, the Hyde Amendment restricts government funds from being used on abortions.

Furthermore, the Hyde Amendment restricts government funds from being used on abortions.

Furthermore, the Hyde Amendment restricts government funds from being used on abortions.

Furthermore, the Hyde Amendment restricts government funds from being used on abortions.

And, last I checked I signed it "me" not "all women". And you didn't answer a single point.

Heather, they aren't called Christians for nuttin'. Next to go, will be a poor woman's right to birth control, so she can have gobs of kids to starve to death or born brain damaged because of lack of food and medical care! Awww, the conservative, Christian mind that's so evil and vile and so unlike Jesus.

YeSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!! NO SOUP for Margret Sanger and HER EUGENIC THUGS @ PP. NOW cut the U.S. TAXPAYERS free from MURDER INC. Yeeeeeeeeeeee Hawwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gary,

Peer review is the weakest form of evidence support! You should only be supporting research that has been done by radomized controlled trials (the strongest form of evidence). Research journals/articles that can proved this level of evidence form EVIDENCE BASED MEDICINE! This is what the medical community practices by...not by peer review!

I agree with Noah!

I can not express how upset I am at this decision. I have been a supporter of Komen in the past, but not as long as this is their position.

This has nothing to do with abortion. These funds were being used by Planned Parenthood to screen low income women for breast cancer. No abortions took place, or even contraceptives distributed, as a result of the funds Komen gave.

Komen chose to bow to the mis-informed right wing out of fear of losing donors. I believe that they will lose far more donors from this move-as I certainly will not give them another penny.

I do hope that people who share my beliefs find a different breast cancer charity to support. I see that people on here were going to take down their pink ribbons. That is not the answer. Find a charity that has the beliefs that you support and donate to them instead.

Let us not create a situation where women with breast cancer are the losers of this poor choice.

Maverick,

Maybe you missed it above...

Furthermore, the Hyde Amendment restricts government funds from being used on abortions.

Furthermore, the Hyde Amendment restricts government funds from being used on abortions.

Furthermore, the Hyde Amendment restricts government funds from being used on abortions.

Furthermore, the Hyde Amendment restricts government funds from being used on abortions.

I can know, comfortably say that if any claims "I don't want my tax money paying for it" again, they are willfully ignorant, or quite simply a troll.

Tammy: Planned Parenthood is NOT on the government teat!! You should do your homework before you make ridiculous comments. They get as much money from the government in grants as Koman does! Get your facts straight, sister!!

A very good try Sarah. but the willfully ignorant will never hear anything that is based on truth and facts.

Sometimes I think they're just messing with me, lol. Gaarrrrr.

Hope you won't be such a cry baby when the Personhood Amendment passes both houses and becomes the law of the land. THE TIDE IS TURNING!!!!!!!!!!!! NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm just wondering why "planned parenthood" is involved in breast cancer in the first place. It seems outside the mission of an organization built upon womens right to choose and birth control. It also seems funny because the fact that the organization doesn't have to follow the same regulations as a normal hospital would. I think Komen would have been better off giving these grants for breast cancer to actual hospitals. Maybe this is why they cut funding, maybe an audit would find that the donations they receive for cancer research are actually going to birth control or abortions. Who knows, but the money must not have been used for its explicit purpose or there would be no reason to be scared of an investigation.

Brett,

PP does mammograms and preventative services. Obviously, they aren't set up as an oncology service, but they do work towards preventing both breast cancer and other female specific cancers.

The BC, STD stuff, and abortions are only a small part of what they offer.

More and more i see this country slowly turning into Nazi Germany and i don't want to hear it from you righties that say that's not true, the evidence is there all over this country. Take a look in all of the southern States that has republican lead Houses, Senate, and governorship's. They want to take away workers rights a woman's right to choose what she can do with her body and they want to take away your constitutional right to vote by passing voter ID laws .and defunding public education, And it's not just in the southern states. It is also happening in states that have newly elected repub officials like Wisc, Penn, Indiana, Az, These law makers are all radical ideologues just like Hitler and the fascists Nazi party. The sad part is the dumb and stupid conservative robots refuse to see it because they are all blinded by irrelevant wedge issues. Hitler didn't come to power by force he came to power by preaching the same s**t you conservatives are preaching now. Blaming everybody else for the countries problem just like Hitler blame the Jews. Wake TFU people do some research history does repeat itself. The repubs/consrvatives are the ones taking away the freedoms you all cry about!!

Sarah, have you been reading lately? Do you realize how much investigation PP was under in the past 3 years? Or did all of those undercover surveillances completely escape your attention. Do you really think they are not using govt. funds for abortions when they have been known to tell teenagers to lie about their age of consent? I laugh at your reasoning. I guess if it is in print, then you will believe anything you want!

http://freedomeden.blogspot.com/2010/02/milwaukee-planned-parenthood-undercover.html

And everyone knows that the Hyde Amendment is not a government wide law. So what goes in one state , might be different in another. Therefore there is a possibility that those abortions are government funded! Next time, do your research before you comment!

Let's get real for a moment.

PP makes a ton of money from abortions, and if they merely provided other health/screening services, there would be no problem.

Perhaps they should consider setting up a different entity to provide abortion services that is not connected to PP, and their problem would be solved. It's the overlap of women's services with abortions that is the problem.

PS - It can't be 'spun' as a racial issue, since the abortion rate for Black women is about 300% that for White women, so preventing abortions proportionally saves a lot more Black babies lives than White babies lives.

Sarah,

That was my point. They conduct a lot of services that aren't directly related to their initial mission and they aren't bound by the same regulations as hospitals, which they should be if they conduct the same procedures. Just saying, the money would be better used to give grants to hospitals to provide the same services within regulations that are in place to protect the patients.

Unhappy,

Do you use a bank??? When you put 10 dollars into an account, and come back the next day to take 10 dollars out, you don't get that same 10 dollar bill back. You do, however, get its equivalent in value.

If the tax payers can't fund abortions, PP loses the equivalent value, regardless of where they pull the money from. They're still out the money.

Are conservative blogs may be your choice for information gathering, I like the BBC, personally.

Damnit

Damnit

Damnit

I am behind the conservatives on so many things. Their battle cry is, "get the government out of my life, and let me make my own choices". I can totally get behind that.

But then they have to add on, "But if somebody does something that's against my personal morals, the government needs to step in and make them stop."

Hypocrites.

How about, Get the government out of my life, and let me make my own choices AND do the same thing for people that happen to believe differently than I do.

Talking about republicans and the south making the country become like Nazi Germany makes me laugh. Not because I don't think it is true, but because your assumption of the good democrats vs. the big bad republicans. I hate to tell you, but both parties continue to take people's rights away, not just the republicans. Heck, school lunch choices are now strictly regulated by the federal government. Sure it may make kids healthier, but it still reminds me of those futuristic movies where you stand in line and only get to eat oatmeal or some other regulated slop. Nope, both parties are taking away people's freedoms.

How can anyone castigate a wonderful organization for having a policy that suspends funding to any group that is under investigation for misconduct? Once the investigation is completed, funding may resume but the SGK Foundation shouldn't assume any official investigation is baseless.

Any person or organization can allege that an investigation is unfounded, politically motivated, or a witchhunt. How many criminals protest their innocence before being found guilty (or even after being found guilty)?

The Susan G. Komen Foundation performs wonderful work and it is not as if cancer screenings will no longer occur. The funds will go to other organizations capable of providing valuable, life-saving services to women.

What concerns me is the harsh criticism Planned Parenthood and its supporters are leveling on an organization that has a reasonable policy of suspending funding to organizations under investigation. If I were on the Board of the SGK Foundation, I would be reluctant to resume any relationship with Planned Parenthood after their harsh response even if the investigation vindicates Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood is not entitled to any funds from the SGK Foundation.

The SGK Foundation's mission is to help prevent cancer and support cancer survivors-- not to support Planned Parenthood. All of you who are threatening to never donate again to the Foundation-- feel free. Just allow the Foundation the same freedom to choose how to spend its money.

Agreed Spencer, let all people be free to live their lives the way they want to, even if the majority doesn't agree with it. My only asterisks would be as long as it doesn't cause harm to someone else.

Really Brett i don't see the proof, now i will admit that there are some dems on the take also and they should be voted out of office the bottom line is when corporations start to run the government that is fascism. When the goverenment run by the people and for the people it's a democracy which we are slowly losing to the ideologue idiot republicans period!

I will not say another word about the inhumanity of abitrarily killing fetuses, when women start taking control of their reproductive processes.

Gary 420 writes...Since abortion demonstrably increases the risk of breast cancer,

I want anyone reading this to know the above statement is completely BS that anti-choice groups are telling their sheep. IT ISN'T TRUE.

The truth be known pregnancy is a lot more of a risk to a woman than an abortion.

Actually Nazism version of fascism isn't run by the corporations. It is when the government runs the corporations in the best interest of the country. The difference between fascism and communism is that fascism still believes in property rights. Where are you making this stuff up about fascism being run by corporations. If you know history the Nazi's ran on a populist union movement to win the election, although Hitler lost, the party nominated him prime minister. Not sure if you know exactly what you are talking about USMC28, fascism is not capitalist, its actually quite closer to something along the lines of the government appointing executives over the banks and auto industry.

Brett don't try insult me with your BS i know WTH i'm talking about!! You have the right wing talking points and spin down to a "T".

First - NEWSVINE - put more REPLY BUTTONS! I have to scroll down for ages before I can reply, then I can't remember what the heck way up there I wanted to reply to! LOL :)

For a Senator to launch an investigation to determine whether public money was spent on abortions, doesn't make any sense to me. Abortion is legal, PP provides abortions, federal funding is given to PP, wouldn't you assume some of that money is spent on abortions? It's not like the federal government can provide funding but say it can't be spent on abortions - since they are LEGAL. This sounds like total BS to me, and the Komen foundation is falling for that ploy?

USMC28,

Maybe you should try reading a book or something or maybe a dictionary.

Straight from Webster's dictionary for you, Geez!

a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

You can also go to wiki and look up Nazism if you want to educate yourself. Nazi fascism was actually a bit different than Italian fascism as well.

Ahhhh yes... more proof of the Republican intelligence (or lack there of) in this country.

So you Republicans are AGAINST entitlements and welfare, but you actively pursue an agenda to ban abortion and INCREASE the number of people who will need entitlements and welfare.

You are actually trying to increase the number of people who will require the thing you are against.

Seriously? What type of f***ed up world do you live in, where this retarded logic makes any sense? This line of thinking is beyond stupid. It is by far the most idiotic, hypocritical, counter-productive agenda we have ever seen. You are trying to increase the thing you are against... and not a single Republican see's a problem with this logic. Unbelievable.

My point, democrats like the strong federal (centralized government), economic regimentation, and are starting to get into social regimentation and republicans like social regimentation. There fore both parties or rather the people who elect them are steering the country toward fascism. Every president has gotten more and more powerful in my lifetime.

Physicist

if anyone actually wants to make a difference (instead of just being upset about this) contact Komen here:

http://ww5.komen.org/Contact.aspx

I used the 'Donation Services' category. If pressure from the Right 'encouraged' Komen to take this step, pressure from others can make them reconsider.

No more races, no more donations, and I'll even get rid of my pink trash can. The Religious Right is now Pro Cancer, and Komen is helping them to achieve higher cancer rates.

Shame.

Thanks for posting the site.....hopefully all pro-choicer's will send them their thoughts!

Indieparty,

That is true it doesn't make much sense. You can think of it almost as population control. One could also state based on the same thinking that Organic food is quite stupid as well since it takes more land and longer to grow, along with more resources because of the extra duration, and so can't feed as many people for the land used. Since there are millions of people in the world starving it seems pretty stupid to not maximize our use of land to process food. Either that or the people who love organic foods are more concerned about themselves than the starving people in the world. Probably both if you ask me.

Brett i really don't care what wiki's or Websters definition of fascism is point is as far i see it the republican party esp the hard core right wing radical part of it is trying to push the country towards a fascist state. And yes you are correct that Germany's version of fascism was different than Italy's but it's still the same crap to me.

JLS..FYI Since abortions became legal back in the 70's it's been ILLEGAL for any federal funds to pay for them. That's a fact.

If people want to get abortions, then they should pay for it. If not,keep their legs closed.

That is only overridden in cases of rape/incest or when the health of the baby or mother are in jeopardy. THAT to me is the only time abortions should be allowed to begin with, but that's beside the point

Legal abortion is far better than forcing women to illegal abortion and having a child they will not care for.

All these pro-lifers don't ever think about all the children in adoption homes that grow up without a family to love them

For those of us cabable of using logic, let's take a look at the above sentiment...one we hear all too often. Using this same logic, we would go to all of the orphanages in the USA and kill all of the children...because after all...using the above logic, they would be better off...right?

The woman in the office next to mine grew up in an orphanage in Detroit, and she has said many times it was pretty unpleasant. I don't have the guts to ask her if she would have rather been aborted than raised in that envirionment, but I think I know the answer.

Those that try to convince us that certain childeren would be better off aborted than raised in whatever manner, here in the USA have got to be joking.

Although I am pro-life when it comes to my immediate family, I am definitely pro-choice when it comes to government policy.

I have to agree with everyone who pointed out the hypocrisy of the religious right. They advocate saving the fetus, but don't lift a finger to help the child after its born. God help you if you are in the foster care system, or if you're a teenager or adult who is impoverished, because most of His followers won't. They advocate smaller government and a "get your nose outta my business" attitude towards the government when it comes to business, but when it comes to arbitrary morality they are all for government telling people how to think and punishing them if they step out of line.

Don't even get me started on evolution vs. creationism. Just keep your superstitions out of public schools.

"JB-2997838

Before you comment on how wrong I am, call your mother and thank her for not aborting (killing) you."

My mother is dead but not before she forced me to have an illegal abortion in a Mexican doctors back alley practice because she was embarrassed by my teenage pregnancy. Thanks, mom.

Sign me, A responsible conservative for choice. It's the law.

I absolutely believe that having an abortion is morally corrupt. For most it is a selfish act and often repeated over the over again.

Would people STOP saying this. Having a child is the MOST selfish act anyone can do. Why do people have children? Come on, think about it. What are the reasons?

To "validate" your existence as a man or woman because your own self esteem is lacking.

To fulfill a personal desire to be a mother or father, you just "want one".

To feel the "love of a child" because you have an emotional void that needs to be filled with "love".

To fulfill the curiosity of what YOUR child would look like, act like, behave.

Because YOU want one, have always wanted one, or suddenly want one now.

Notice a trend? It's all about YOU. "I want... I need... I desire". Whether you are incapable of finding validation in your own existence, or you feel lonely without one... they all revolve around YOU. You are not doing society, or the world, a favor by procreating... you are adding to an over-populated planet with the justification of fulfilling your own selfish desire.

Having a child is the selfish act... NOT the abortion.

In some ways, you can view abortion as non-selfish. You are not bringing another person into the world that will consume part of the finite resources. This leaves those resources available to someone else. You are not bringing a person into the world who will compete for jobs. This leaves those positions available for someone else. You are not adding another person to society, where we will have to care for them if you fail to. This allows other people to be cared for. You are not adding to the over-population problem.

Now I don't have a problem if you want to procreate... have at it. But don't LIE and pretend you are upholding some noble cause. You are acting on behalf of your own selfish desires, and subjecting society to another member of an already crowded group. You are the selfish one. Stop trying to paint those who get abortions as "selfish", when they are the ones who are NOT adding to the population problem... you are.

I'm so tired of selfish people, making decisions based on their own emotional baggage, calling other people selfish for not making the same decision.

Unhappy wrote - "There isn't a surefire way to treat breast cancer but there is a surefire way to prevent an unwanted pregnancy. You all know what it is and it doesn't require any money."

The answer is Planned Parenthood. They teach sex education to prevent unwanted pregnancies - which in turn, prevent abortions.

How can any organization that is pro women's health provide abortions? The mental, spiritual and emotional damage caused by an abortion lasts for years. Not to mention the impact it can have on a woman's long term ability to conceive. This kind of information is rarely if ever shared by PP.

"The Hyde Amendment restricts government funds from being used to do abortions." Don't kid yourself! Without government money, they have less with which to do abortions. So maybe the money doesn't go directly to them but they leave more funds from other sources to do the abortions.

Read Sanger's writings and find out what PP is really about. Her own words say it all.

There are exceptions for everything to include the Hyde Amendment. I was 13 weeks pregnant when a corner of my placenta lifted. I started to hemorrhage and nothing they did could stop the bleeding. As they were pumping me full of blood to keep me alive, the military doctor told me I had a choice to make. I could wait to the fetus to die and I would die with it, or I could allow them to end my pregnancy and hopefully save my life. There was no guarantee I would live even with the abortion. I opted for the abortion. They wheeled me into the military hospital's operating room and performed the abortion. There are always exceptions. There should always be exceptions as sometimes abortion is necessary.

Thank you MSNBC for showing how completely unbiased you are and restoring all those comments who support your cause! (gagging noises).

Tell me again how you think you are considered "fair" news coverage?

What the right wing never seems to grok is that NO ONE WANTS ABORTIONS. Everyone wants fewer abortions. Everyone. Just some people recognize the necessity of safe medical procedures at what is always a gut-wrenching time for a woman. The procedure is legal. The procedure is the right of any woman in the US. If you want small government, you can NOT support bans on abortion. If you want small government, stay out of the bedrooms of US citizens, and allow them to live their lives. You know -- liberty?

Komen is having no trouble funding other companies that are under investigation. This whole thing stinks of right-wing pressure brought to bear. The same right-wing that wants to make many forms of contraception itself illegal. It's like the Chinese in centuries past binding the feet of their women. Some of these right-wing men seem to have have a jones on for having the power to keep their women barefoot and pregnant. So passionately, too.

Me, I usually donate to three runners. This year I'll encourage them to boycott, and the money will go to PP. Because I believe in liberty, in God, in hard work and ethical behavior -- and compassion, above all. I believe Jesus did, as well.

I never even think of the Koman organization when I see a pink ribbon. I think of cancer research.

When women need screening or medical treatment for breast cancer, they can go to Komen. That is what they do. They are not keeping anyone from getting a screening or medical care.

Well, if they go to Komen for screening and medical treatment for breast cancer, they do it in vain. Komen does not do screening or medical treatment; they do "awareness." You know who does do screening? Planned Parenthood.

It is a sad irony that I read this story on my cell phone while in the waiting room of MD Anderson; my mother had a lumpectomy on Tuesday. And she had said, in pre-op, that she guessed she'd have to have a survivor badge this year in the Race for the Cure. But you know what? She came through the procedure just fine, but she won't be running, and neither will I.

I've sent money to Planned Parenthood, and will send money to Relay for the Cure. No more money to Komen. Breast cancer affects women of all income levels; Komen is willing to throw the neediest among us to the wolves. If they are so willing to cut off funding for poor womens' cancer screening, then they are not worth my support.

USMC28 A dictator whether consevative or liberal is still a dictator. All the 60's liberal radicals have become the establishment they hated. So sad.

I guess I'll find another charity to give to.

Hearts Quest, that is an empty statement unless you also have a commitment to providing services for the unwed mother, to making sure mother and daughter have access to quality health care no matter what their circumstances, and to insure that both mother and daughter have education and life opportunities.

Otherwise you fall into that right-wing fallacy of "we're pro life before you're born, then we don't care what happens to you."

Sorry hearts, your desire to snak one in the face will do no more so now that it did the first time you got no response from it.

HeartsQuest -- It seems to me that those self-righteous politicians who oppose abortion out of concern for the rights and wellbeing of the unborn, don't give a cr**p about them once they come into the world.

So HearstQuest, you would rather have women die of Breast Cancer than a developing cell in a poor women, that is not yet a fetus (SOTUS specified), cannot be terminated, even when that cell may have been created by rape or incest.

Very short-sided . Just like the frog in a pan of water on the stove. You won't see your death coming.

HeartsQuest said:

"EQUAL RIGHTS FOR UNBORN FEMALES!"

How very sexist of you. I bet you couldn't care less about unborn males, you man-hater!

Why is it that Republicans (and, specifically Christians) give more to secular causes than Democrats and atheists, yet all the Dems on here are crying about how wrong this is? Until the left catches up with donations, quit crying. The right donates more to secular causes, showing they really do care more. All talk, that's all I hear.

Hey toni : Want to know what percentage of funding for planned parenthood goes to abortions? 3%. Want to know why most women have abortions? Because there is no way they could afford to give a child a good life and there is barely any help.

KB - please provide the data you used to show that the christian right gives more to secular causes? Perhaps christians give more to churches, but I'll bet if you look at the research you'll find that those who give to their churches give less to other charitable organizations. What I see the right doing is crying very loudly about their tax dollars going to pay for disability, unemployment, etc. How is that caring more? Unlike the so called "religious right" I actually expect my gov't to help care for those in need, not let them be forced out on the street to starve. My compassion and caring about others is what keeps me voting liberal year after year. I will never become one of the hypocritical "religious right".

Anybody who sez that the pro-lifers don't support pregnant women through childbirth and beyond are full of it. Just check the yellow pages.

The point is: Planned Parenthood performs abortions, along with all the "other" stuff that they do. So whether it is 3% funding or 30% funding, doesn't matter, I don't want my money going to an organization that terminates the life of unborn children... for money. And, oh, in case some of you skipped 5th grade, indeed, they are unborn children, actually you could call them pre-born humans. And I am NOT OK with ending their lives just because they are "unwanted", getting back to the wanted vs. unwanted argument (wanted=baby, unwanted=blob of tissue). Semantics.

I never gave to Komen because they were in bed with PP. Of course, this is all a big cover up anyway because it is known medical science that abortions actually CAUSE breast cancer.... google that, I won't even bother trying to explain it, but it is real.

Finally, this article is so poorly written, clearly the usual MSNBC bias about right-wing conspiracies... the usual drivel from MNSBC. Bottom line, the TRUTH will always prevail... and the truth is, abortion terminates the lives of unborn humans.

Peace all.

Nah, the knuckle draggers want to go back to dragging women by the hair. They miss the pump wells and dirt roads,not to mention the out house. Hell , if your woman gets cancer do a Newt! Get you a new one! This gets more sickening every day. It seems some have short memories or perhaps none at all. You right wingers deserve all the ridicule mustered against you.

Peace all... That's funny.

As far as I remember, abortions are still legal, and therefore can be funded by whomever wants to fund them. You don't want an abortion? Don't get one. You don't want to support PP? Don't give them money. But to tell anyone that you don't agree with their personal decision? Who gives a crap what you think? Unless they are your underage daughter or son, you don't get to tell other people what to do with their bodies, or at least you shouldn't be able to. Of course we all know that's all the religious right wants to do is tell you how to live your life and prevent you from doing things they don't see as moral or ethical. Well, it's all relative. Until that baby is out of its mother's body, it is still part of the mother's body and she has every right to do with it as she pleases. Whatever happened to judge not lest ye be judged? All you people do is judge. And jury and execute as well (see abortion doctor killings- yeah that's not insane).

Perhaps christians give more to churches, but I'll bet if you look at the research you'll find that those who give to their churches give less to other charitable organizations.

I'll bet they are lying when they claim to give to charity, and do it to get a bigger tax deduction, hoping they don't get caught. I don't believe for a minute they are more charitable.

Sally Lu -

There have actually been government studies that prove that conservatives give more to charity than liberals. Just one that I know of showed that rural North Dakota - a very conservative area - gave more to charities, per capita, than San Francisco - a liberal bastion.

How much of that "charity" is going to churches? That would not be charity, that would be running the church business. I don't believe for a minute that republicans give more to charity. Separate the donations and we'll talk.

Dr Clumsy
I suggest you go back to medical school. There is no scientific evidence to back your statement about abortions causing cancer.

If you don't like abortions don't have one. You have the right to speak your opinion and even to spew lies such as the cancer myth.

You do not have the right to make medical decisions for me or anyone else. The constitution protects everyone including those you disagree with.

What you are basically arguing for here is that the SBK organization is right to stop helping poor women pay for breast cancer screenings. In this case you are very far from being "pro-life".

Boom! reason, I applaud you. You wrote, "I couldn't care less" I have seen a similar but very wrong quotation too many times to correct it every time, plus I didn't want to seem too anal about spelling. Every time I see, "I could care less" I think, "Then why don't you? Why not care less? You could but you don't." I don't have much to say about the article, too many people way too touchy about their feelings on the subject. I really just wanted to thank you for actually using the phrase in the correct connotation, thanks.

RE: message 2.17, by lib50

How much of that "charity" is going to churches?... Separate the donations and we'll talk.

Exactly!

Of course, people can do with their money whatever they see fit, but a person paying TITHE and OFFERING to their church does not equal 'giving to charity' (even if the church goes on to support charitable causes with some of what they collect).

Tithe and offering is exactly that - tithe and offering! (It's even less 'charitable' seeing that some faiths all but require memebers to pay - LDS (or, Mormons), for instance, actually have a yearly 'settlement meeting' with their elders and members can lose their 'temple recommend' if they have not been giving a full 10% throughout the year, or do not settle up.)

As for the article at hand --and the other information supplied by posters like 'meede' (Thank You!)-- it makes me glad that I have always stuck with other, more reliable, less commercial, cancer-related charities.

Lib50: The truth is when christians give money to churches often times we also give money to other secular charities. As christians we learn to think of money as a tool and not as a god. Most liberals give a small percentage of their money to charities. If a christian were to give 10% to the church, often times that money is used to help to fund other programs as well such as feeding the homeless; it isn't used only for church business.

Second, most christians are giving to other secular charities. In other words, the overall percentage for giving among christians is considerably higher. I was audited last year because the IRS didn't think anyone could give that much money to charity. I had to prove it to them by receipts that I was giving more than the maximum allowed.

Lib50 - Those who tithe and give to charities know the difference between the two. You're comparing apples to shoes and using made up results to vilify those who are giving. And charitable contributions have to be proven (receipts) in order to be deductible. So sticking out your tongue and spitting out your nonsense simply shows your pettiness.

1POV... and when they fill out their taxes, they do not list the amount they tithe as a charitable contribution. Right!!! And tithing has to be proven also.

Planned Parenthood provides contraception for low income people. Contraception eliminates the need for abortions. Remove P.P. and the number of abortions is going to increase..............

Bad news. This will require personal responsibility now.

Take the money spent on abortions and spend it on contraceptives and breast exams.

With over 300,000 abortions performed per year it is apparent there is a lot of money to spend on other things.

When abortion is legalized there will be a staggering increase in the number of babies found in dumpsters. It's really quite sad. How about we actually educate people about sex and its consequences instead of complaining when said consequences happen? There are teens and young adults who seriously don't know that babies come from sex.

Lib50, Dejay, and the rest of you Libtards that are trying to bash Christians and other people of faith, (remember Muslim, Jewish, etc. organizations do loads of "charity" work), for the amount they give or tithe. Give it a rest. Gallop, Rasmussen, and several other independent research groups have repeatedly found that Conservatives/Republicans give more to SECULAR charities than Liberals/Democrats. I just saw last year where Millionaire Democratic leaders like Obama, Pelosi, Read, Gore, Kerry, Clinton, to name a few, only donated a few thousand dollars to "charity" according to their income tax returns out of the millions of dollars in income they reported.

I know for a fact that the church I attend, out of it's $250K yearly budget, over 40% of that goes to community and national charity projects, such as Battered Women and Youth homes, Homeless shelter, local food bank, local free medical/dental clinic, etc. This is a congregation of under 175 people. Liberals are such hypocrites, all "talk" and no action.

Dejay also illustrateshis ignorance. like the atheist liberal he is, of what a "tithe" is, most likely because he has never set foot in a church, let alone been an active congregant.

Abortion is legal and should be only because if it wasn't legal people would be getting abortions anyway by people who are unqualified and under terrible conditions. Until human women start giving birth to something other than human children, abortion will always be the killing of a child. You can rationalize all you want but the result will be the same, a dead kid.

The Komen people are about raising money for Cancer, not abortions. The United Way came under similiar attacks a while back when it was revealed that they use money for abortions. Many people are fine with donating money but not fine for donating to charities that will use even some of the money for abortions.

Both of my parents and my brother died of cancer. There will never be a cure for cancer because raising money for the cure is so lucrative and no sane person would ever kill something that raises billions upon billions of dollars. It IS ALWAYS about the money. Donating money for cancer research is just feeding the beast. Spend your money instead on a good dinner. We no longer try to find cures, the money is in treating the disease, not curing it.

We all pay our taxes and those tax funds are used to pay for food stamps, public housing, welfare, medicaid and on and on so we already contribute to charity. The government has no right to take our hard earned tax payer dollars and fund abortions which the majority of us are against. Period, end of discussion. Kolman just decided they don't want to support death either when they are about saving lives. Planned Parenthood needs to stop performing abortions or lose contributions from the government and other right thinking charities.

What is worse than abortion is child abuse! The right doesn't see that very well either, and yes child abuse also kills children. If not physically, mentally. You end up wth human beings that continues the cycle of being abusive people that may kill people. This argument is best said by George Carlin.

http://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/kk76x/george_carlin_on_abortion_god_and_conservatives/

Study after study has found that conservatives are more charitable than liberals. There should really be no argument about it. Granted many will give to there church but what difference does it make where it goes. I love how one can throw out the members of the LDS church and their practices to discredit the whole notion. Come on just accept it already. No matter where the donations go - they will be better used than if a bureaucrat gets to decide what to do with them.

I don't get the personhood amendment idea. Okay, so you get to declare that life begins at conception. So, are you going to go around to every woman that has a miscarriage and determine if it was intentional? Are you simply going to prevent doctors from providing abortions? Are you going to outlaw the week-after pill? How about the morning-after pill? Birth control? Some forms of birth control, such as the week-after pill or morning-after pill, cannot prevent conception. They prevent implantation into the uterine wall. Some forms of birth control prevent conception by preventing ovulation (most BCP), some by preventing conception (condoms, spermicide, diaphragm, etc.).

So, let's assume that many to most "pro-life" supporters are for life at conception, and that they support use of birth control. Of course, that's a complete lie, but that's what the personhood amendments would do. So, as soon as an ova and a sperm were united, then the zygote is declared a person. Now, how do you determine when this occurs? Is every woman to be sequestered from the time they have sex until their next period, just in case? Are women to be forbidden from using birth control unless they can prove they are not already pregnant? Are they to be prevented from using any kind of abortifacent, such as alcohol, antibiotics, etc. unless they can prove they do not have a zygote? Even one that has not implanted and, therefore, has not changed her hormonal make-up yet, so it is not detectable by standard testing?

Now, assuming you can overcome these invasions of privacy, invasions of medical rights and care (you liars), you now have a person inside another person. So, this person can be held to all the standards of any other person, including the rights to eviction. If the mother wants to evict the "baby" from her body, she has the right to do so. Call CPS, have them take the "child" away from her. How will you prevent women from doing just that? Sure, it may take a doctor's care to do so, but it's the law. Persons can be evicted from their premises if the property is owned by another. It's the woman's body, she can decide whether or not to support another person with her shelter, care, and energy. It doesn't matter that the "baby" can't survive outside the womb, it is the mother's womb, and she has owner's rights.

See, this is what I don't get. "Pro-lifers" are so caught up in what happens in the womb, yet they seem to have no idea what is really going on. Ask an ob-gyn, or, even better, ask a developmental biologist. They have studied the subject more than any other people. They know. They understand the stresses placed on the mothers' bodies. They understand how pregnancy is a medical condition, what complications can arise, what the developmental process is. Neurobiologists understand that brain development doesn't really end until the mid-twenties, that a child's brain isn't even full-size until around age 3. Psychologists know that a child does not have full self-recognition until around 18 months. These are known facts.

But, even granting that a zygote, blastocyst, pharyngula, or whatever stage the fetus is in, has the full rights of a human, we don't give humans the rights to impose on others for their well-being. We give them the right to impose on society in some fashions, like welfare, charity, etc. However, nobody has the right to take your kidney. Nobody has a right to part of your liver. Nobody has a right to your skin, hair, or anything else that is part of your body. Nobody can force you to give any of those up, even though your body can support it, even though you don't absolutely require a whole liver to live (it will grow back), or 2 kidneys to function (you may have to lower your salt intake). So why should we allow "persons" to steal their mothers' blood, sugar, water, hormones, uterine lining, or any of a thousand other things the fetus requires? What would make them so special?

I'm for legalized abortion. Abortion is a choice, made by a woman, for that woman. It's something she needs to discuss with her doctor, a licensed medical provider, just as we all discuss any medical procedure with our doctors(read: not faith-healers). It is a medical procedure. Period.

Somewhat back on topic, no, Komen Foundation will not receive any more money from me. They've turned into an opportunistic, profit-driven, glory-hounding, right-wing propaganda machine. You keep saying we can't force a private company to support another private company. This is like all those Focus on the Family (liars) or Family Research Council (liars) claiming that boycotts by the left are un-American. But their boycotts smell like apple pie.

Oh, and for the record, we already know that you religious fanatics are after our birth control. What with passing all the "pharmacist rights" laws, allowing pharmacists to refuse sale of birth control due to some outmoded religious crap. It's plain to see. Why you prefer the old days of open misogyny and repression of women by taking away their (and mens!) ability to plan their family, I don't know, I don't care. You will not win this one. You will lose, because myself and people like me can see through your pathetic whinging and your pearl-clutching to the vileness and rank ignorance you harbor. Your petty concerns that nothing anyone does ever offend you, well, I have to see you, and I find you offensive. Please relocate yourself in the most permanent way possible.

Don't waste your time. That last post was full of crap! And to the person above, you're obviously a man, so stop commenting on this!

For those who thing religious people don't donate more of there time and money to charities, read and weep.

http://www.hoover.org/publications/policy-review/article/6577

To some, taxing the rich and redistributing to the poor is the only kind of charity they participate in, which costs them nothing. I would bet that most here attacking donate little, if any, of their time and money to anything except themselves. I could be wrong, but would need some proof otherwise, like the secularists asked about religious groups above.

Unhappy -

I'll stop commenting on this when the other men stop trying to take away a woman's right to choose.

As for the birth control argument, I won't ever stop on that one. That's my right, too.

@Bob

Anti-Christian/Anti-religious types have failed to understand the statement "love the sinner, hate the sin". That is why Christians do not support policies that promote the sin but still support the person who sins, with love.

At any rate, loving those you disagree with is a difficult concept for all humans. At least Christians and other major religious organizations try.

Sabot and Heat -

You have a very funny definition of the word "love." Like, how it means that you always think you know better than other people about how they need to run their lives. Or how people should always continue to support you, no matter how much you want to turn them into second-class citizens. Or how you want to take away medical benefits without any sane reason why. Or how you know that your god is real while all others are fake, and you have no problem scaring people into following you and giving up their hard-earned cash. Or how you always lie, but repent by asking Jeebus for forgiveness, and who gives a damn what harm you did. Or the thousand other "holier-than-thou" things that you do in the name of religion.

And that smarmy, stupidity-infested statement of "loving the sinner, hating the sin." Yeah, because that's worked SOOOOO WELL for society. Because people can see past your bigotry, your intolerance, your stupidity, and your hateful actions very easily and see that you're filled full of "love." Because gay people can be all cured and better if they just pray hard enough. Because people praying can bring earthquakes and hurricanes, or was that people not praying, or not to the right god, or not in the right way? Really, it's become something of a catch phrase, robbed of all meaning by idiots who repeat other platitudes like "teach a man to fish," "go forth and sin no more," "the fool in his heart..." Just another empty phrase to fill your mouth.

Here's a hint: put down the 2000 year old fable and pick up a science book. Or sociology. Philosophy? History (no, the bible still doesn't count)?

Speaking of ignorance and prejudice, Janstince...I never said I was a Christian. I just don't ride the wave of religion haters like yourself.

I wonder if you decry native American religions so loudly. I suspect not...that would be considered uncool.

Most major religions all have the same strengths; their purpose is to gain perspective and teach love.

Most major religions all have the same weaknesses; they are made up of humans.

Welcome to the real world Neo.

Way to go! Vote with your pocketbook. Now, spread the word as far and wide as you can that Komen has just done everything it can to completely disenfranchise the neediest women among us. I hope they lose *all* support for this!

There is no cure for cancer because the disease is extremely complex, not because of Big Pharma. Please do not belittle and disregard all our hard work towards a cure- we are not owned by any corporation. -Yours truly, a cancer researcher.

I am so saddened by Komen's response to bowing to pressure from the right. The foundation is non-profit and should know better than to get caught up in the fray. It is keeping many of my friends from doing their walks and donating. Komen knows that if their donation is earmarked to breast exams then thats where the money goes. Way to go Susan G,no more buying products that endorse your foundation I'll find other organizations that help women get free breast exams.

Because big Pharma can actually stop cancer research, just like they did to Jonas Salk and his Polio vaccine ... oh, wait.

Interesting perspective. Komen is due no respect even though they're trying to save lives because in your opinion, with no facts to back it up, they're on the take from Big Pharma. However, PP is a noble organization, worthy of your support, when one of their major functions is to provide an inexpensive means for someone to terminate the life of an unborn baby. setting aside the issue of whether Komen should give any money to PP, your view of which organization has a more noble mission defies logic.

Temposter - Actually giving information on abortions is a very small portion of the money spent by PP. But, you don't really want facts do you?

There already ARE cures for cancer. MANY and they've been around since as early as the 1930s. NATURAL cures that cost PENNIES and THAT is why #1... Big Pharma will NEVER EVER come up w/a "cure"... because a cure means lost patients and lost profits and #2...they are so powerful they squash all independent research, information and remedies via strongarming, misinformation and negative propaganda and straight out threats. They can't make money off of these natural cures that are as simple as things like DIET, coconut oil, hydrogen peroxide and baking soda. We already KNOW for a fact that cancer is a FUNGUS fueled by SUGARS. We already know that CHEMO KILLS ...not cures. It's up to the ignorant public to educate themselves... apparently they prefer ignorance, propaganda and giving money to lost causes.

Temposter instead of blathering on about what you heard on fox news why don't you investigate for yourself exactly what it is PP does, they provide a lot more services for women and children, and from personal experience PP never advocates an abortion, they always offer other choices first. Stop believing everything the conservatives tell you to believe.

Smc31569, please stop with the incredible falsehoods that coconut oil and a 6th grade volcano will cure cancer. You may not believe in science and genetics, but cancer does. It plays by those rules and couldn't care less about your conspiracy theories.

SMC - then please provide links to this peer reviewed proof so we can see it.

Calvn - thank you for your work as a cancer researcher! There are many people who do not belittle or disregard your work, in fact there are many that have you and people like to to thank for saving the lives of a loved one! I am one of those people grateful my loved one survived because of the treatment plan in place today as well as early detection.

As for the rest of the commentators. I don't care if you give to PP or Komen or a local researcher or the American Cancer Society as long as you donate somewhere to help people with cancer. Because it is only with funding that better treatments will be found and suffering will end. And while it is important to make sure that breast cancer gets defeated try to remember that not only is it not the only type of cancer needing funding but also not the most prevalent and definitely not the most serious (pancreatic cancer is almost surely a death sentence). You don't have to get into the entire right wing/left wing, religious nut/fruit cake battle to help defeat cancer.

Komen made their choice, for now (if the investigation finds nothing and they are released from investigation it is a possibility they will continue funding PP). PP will make there choice of where to receive funding. And you can make yours. If everyone stops trying to control others, even for a minute, the world would be a better place for it.

My point is: If you want people to let you make your own choices, first let them make theirs without your two cents trying to sway them.

SMC please provided the peer reviewed evidence for your assertions.

Sally you guys make me laugh out loud!!! Fiesty says worse than that daily!!! OMG!! Her avator or whateve you call it says Dumb Fux!! I get called a redneck nearly everyday. Get over yourselves!!!

Censor fairly and equally or don't!!

Koman is disenfranchising the poorest women? Really? Planned Parenthood was originally funded to provide assitance and information on birth control to "poor women". Abortion is not an acceptable form of birth control especially when there are so many valid effective methods of birth control including sterilization. Maybe Planned Parenthood needs to do fulfill their original purpose better, not branch out into abortion when the training of people on birth control has no effect.

Well stated Shaking. Very well said.

@smc:

Steve Jobs also thought the natural cures will save him. Unfortunately, he delayed the real treatment because of that. He could have still lived, if not that.

Sally

What's the point of suspending someone just because of making personal attacks on other members, I see it all over right now the personal attacks against christians and polititions. I'm a christian myself and I don't agree on everything in society, but I find it repulsive and insulting that some of these members bash christians because your members don't all agree. NOT ALL christians are like that, to me that is a personal attack against my religeion.Why dodn't you start suspending people that bash against other religions and where it goes there. And I do agree on there comment on those two members you suspended for personal attacks.

Calvn...I thank you also. I am a survivor of Hodgkins...found by accident because of a lump in my breast. The lump was nothing, but the swollen lymph node was just the start.

smc was wrong...chemo is a poison, and it makes you sick and plays hell on your body, but it saved my life.

Wow... apparently we're in KINDERGARTEN here. Sticks and stones... what a bunch of babies. I thought this was a site for ADULTS... guess I was mistaken.

JCA-1829090

"I've never held much respect for Komen, lots of hype, but who are they really helping?"

This is where there $ go.

http://ww5.komen.org/uploadedFiles/SGKFTC_FY10AnnualReport.pdf

Another question is "Who are you helping and where do your $ go?"

Assuming you donate to anything, do you not pick and choose where your $ go? That is discrimination by you, isn't it?

And how about not supporting Republican candidates either? That whole party is about restricting women's rights to make their own choices. This is just the latest assault on women, and the Komen Foundation is supplying the nails for the coffin.

I just sent an email to the Komen Foundation telling them how I felt and that I would no longer financially support them. I've had it with this war on women from the right.

might as well put those bloomers back on like in the 1800's and 'pray' it away. (sarcasm)

I wish I could get my tax dollars back from PP and give it to Komen. Another waste of money for the liberal agenda. Better yet, I would rather take that money and give it to a federally funded Health Care plan that would cover everybody( there I said it). Just not for abortions.

unhappy....why don't you look into actually how much of YOUR tax dollars go to PP. Only 1/3rd of funding is provided by the gov't, none of which is used for abortion services, which alone constitute only 3% of the care provided by PP. Over 70% of services provided to patients are for contraception, and std screenings.

Our local clinic is run by registered nurses, and a full-time NP, and counseling DOES exist. As an employee of 10+ years, I can say that the patients view our clinic, from the outside, as a place they can feel comfortable discussing their healthcare needs.

Whether the abortions are a small or large part of what planned parenthood does, I don't want my money used to kill even one of what I consider an unborn baby.

NONE of YOUR money is used towards abortions. Gov't funding cannot be used in support of that. Please educate yourselves on ALL the services PP provides before you make unsubstantiated comments.

dmillie

"unhappy....why don't you look into actually how much of YOUR tax dollars go to PP. Only 1/3rd of funding is provided by the gov't, none of which is used for abortion services, which alone constitute only 3% of the care provided by PP. Over 70% of services provided to patients are for contraception, and std screenings."

Why should the government be funding any charity? That is not what taxes are supposed to be for.

Angie, who gave you life? RU opposed to life for others? Yes, there is class warfare enflamed by Obama for political benefit. Meanwhile he closed the charter school in DC which performed among the best for the African American children in order to satisfy his crony teachers' unions. He gave up on the children's future in order to protect his own. Why don't you support children instead of killing them? Pro-life always wins in the long run; pro-death culture always loses in the long run. Bye-bye, PP.

Let me remind you of a little history, "teacher".

• Childbirth is one of the leading causes of death for women in much of the world.
• Approximately 50% of all maternal deaths resulted from illegal abortion during the first half of the 20th century
• Estimates of the annual number of illegal abortions in the 1950s and 60s range from 200,000 to 1.2 million, even though abortion procedures were unsafe and often life-threatening, in addition to being illegal
• During the 1950s and 60s, each year an estimated 160 to 260 women died from illegal abortions, while thousands more were seriously injured

HISTORY: To quote Warren Buffett, a man who I daresay knows more about Capitalism than you or any cretin in the GOP: "There's class warfare alright, but it's my class, the rich class, that's been waging the war, and what's more, we're winning it."

Why is it that anyone who challenges the incredible breaks that the uber wealthy get is waging class warfare but when Conservatives what to denigrate, denomize and demagogue the poor, as in "Welfare Queens", that's not class warfare???

Who do you think makes the tax laws in this country, the poor? Hardly, it's corporate America and the super rich who hire armies of lobbyists to prod and buy off our Congress to vote in their favor. So please, stop mimicking the GOP talking points because it's absurd.

teacher is just another mouth breather that spouts off all sorts of things but when it comes to putting her money where her mouth is she's an epic failure. i'm just sure techer is taking in unwanted kids by the dozen right teacher?

RealAmerican:

during the 50's and 60's about 160 to 260 women died from illegal abortions? Really?

Since 1973, more than 25 MILLION WOMEN have died from LEGAL abortion! They just happened to be unborn and unwanted women. Nothing like "equal rights", eh?

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

clumsy - not true at all.

No baby has ever been aborted in the history of mankind. Ever. Not once.

Bitte entschuldigen Sie mich Fräulein, aber Sie sind falsch.

Not rose colored glasses. Not politics. Just science, which is the same for conservatives, liberals, Marxists, fascists, and the rest--whether you like it or not.

Fetuses have fetal circulation, anatomy, and physiology. They haven't proven that they can live outside of the womb...you know, in our world. Open an embryology book if you don't believe me. Like I've said before, the VAST MAJORITY of abortions occur prior to being able to reliably assign a gender...so your "cute" and clumsy argument is invalid.

It isn't just a 'class' warfare, it has become a 'religious' warfare. And clumsy, better to be informed than not, and you are the latter.

Marine doc those ain't puppies being aborted. They are the product of human reproduction and will develop into human beings unless they are murdered first.

Nice for you to note that they are not yet human beings! Since they have to be human to be murdered, you have just proved there is no murder happening!

Thanks!

They aren't "babies" either. A baby isn't tethered to it's mothers womb...you want to take a guess at what percentage of products of human conception are being flushed down the toilet clinging to a Tampax right now as we speak?

As despicable as this is, you must admit it's a clever tactic by the unholy religious right. Deny women health care -- particularly lower income women -- and you guarantee that more of them will die. The more of them die, the fewer of them there will be having abortions.

It's rather ironic that those who have shouted "baby killer!" at protest rallies are pursuing a "mommy killer!" agenda.

Frisky,

It's obvious that you don't know what you are talking about with regard to the changes that occur in the transition from fetus to neonate. I'll tell you what, find a good a website on the subject, get up to speed, and I'll meet you back here in a few hours.

Sound fair?

Doc,

She won't meet you here. You're right, and you're backed by solid science. Of course, science is the enemy, too, since everyone knows the universe is only 6,000 years old, and the earth was created with an intact fossil record (because God's sense of humor leans strongly toward the slapstick), and an unborn baby (fetus) is a baby angel!

I've always been particularly impressed by the conservative stance of "make sure they get born, then make sure they know their place." The last bit of help an unwanted child will ever get from a conservative is making sure that they get born into their own personal hell.

Marine, when I was pregnant with my son I did NOT tell people I was having a fetus. I said I was having a BABY. When the doctors decided I needed an emergency C-section they said they had to take the "baby" to save him.

Don't tell me or any woman that the life in our womb isn't a Baby. THEY ARE.

MaineDoc,

I'm trying to understand your "a baby isn't tethered to its mother's womb" criteria for when a fetus/cell lump/Blasto-cyst become a human being in your "book".

By your "tethered" comment, it would appear that you feel a full-term, vaginally delivered, "fetus" whose cord hasn't been cut yet, could still be "aborted" in the delivery room and that wouldn't be "murder" of killing a baby human.

It appears that you feel that Partial-birth second and third trimester "abortions" where a healthy fetus is pulled feet first from the mother womb, until the "doctor" can shove a knief in its brain to kill it, then sucks the brain matter out until fetus dies, then extreact the dead "fetus" the rest of the way out of the mother, are OK also. Those babies are still "tethered" to the mother's womb too. So you're fine with that??

Well?? Are you just playing medical "legalize" with scimantics on what is or isn't the medical definition of a "baby", "fetus", etc.?? Are you being a "Bill Clinton" and saying it depends on what your definition of "IS" is??

Or are you just in denial that you are only half a step away from the likes of Mengele??

If Warren Buffet were sincere instead of losing his faculties, he would pay the billion dollars his company owes in taxes.
Simple answer to the problem of those wanting abortions. If you don't want to have a baby, don't get pregnant. The rest of us manage that why can't you?

Their arguments are based on junk science, basted in an intense hate for anything that they feel will infringe on their perceived right to do whatever they want, whenever they want, however they want, and to whomever they want. I give them credit, though, because most of what they say flies in direct opposition to the human conscience, as well as our most basic instincts allowing us to differentiate right from wrong, but they've become pros at it.

Couldn't have said it better myself. So why try! Most of the conservative so called christians that I know are absolutley not against all abortion at all. They realize that there can be circumstances, but NOT as a means of birth control. I met a young woman in the mid-80's who happens to be from California that had 4 abortions before she was married. That is just not okay!

Janine,

You "have" a baby...but you carry a fetus. Sorry. I'll bet your doctors didn't flinch or correct you when you said your "stomach" was getting big either...when you were obviously referring to your uterus.

htdjpf,

You assume far too much. Please take the advice I gave to frauline and have a look at an embryology book. The problem here is you are using imprecise terminology.

Frisky...it's far too early to use the "he's not a doctor/Marine/human being/blah blah blah" argument. Why don't you try another strategy? Maybe one based on facts--oh wait, if you did that we wouldn't be arguing.

This started with the right telling people that PP is an abortion place when they do so much more. Then Lifeway took away the Pink Bible's because of the same reason and now this. Way to help people that need it. Sick of so called "religious" people. This is not what my God would want for any body.

It really is disgusting. The religious right using breast cancer as a weapon in their march against civil rights.

Send them an email. I just did, and if enough of us counter the teapubs maybe they will see the light.

I rather prefer to use the term "teabaggers." It's the name they first called themselves, and I always enjoy a throwback title.

Some women should be REQUIRED to have an abortion. How's that for a 3rd rail in the abortion battle. I can piss off both sides.

Ummm Frauline, it is only derogatory and sexual in nature if YOU have no code of honor in the 1st place. I'm sure calling people 'fools' tends to be seen as derogatory too, eh? Next?

Of course, it's convenient how you used your little lecture on maturity to change the subject, Frisky. Something rather ironic about that.

All you liberals never seem to take credit for what you've done. You just blame the right. Well here's part of your scorecard You shut down Catholic Charities adoption services by demanding they provide services they couldn't within their beliefs. So much for freedom of religion. Hope you all are crying for the kids that will be waiting longer to be adopted.

Yea lonereb, if they can't provide services 'within their bigoted beliefs', then let them not get tax payer money. Tax Payer money is not meant to fuel your fairy tales. You can't get tax payer money and then start discriminating based on your stupid moronic beliefs. The Liberals are only taking away the 'claimed right' of the Catholic services to discriminate based on their bigoted beliefs. No body is denying their right to believe in their bull@!$%# in private.

It is is the self-given name of those who founded the so called TEA party and work teabags on their clothing. They also claimed that they were going to 'Teabag the government'.

Does that help?

Here is an image to help you understand why they are called teabaggers. It has nothing to do with a sexual pejorative but rather what they named themselves!

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lolol.... sorry but that is all the teabaggers fault. Next time you choose a movement name, think about it before you decide to use it!

The origin of the term ... as per THE NATIONAL REVIEW:

http://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/article/?q=Mjk1YmRjNzIxNmUwMTI0ZWYxZWU4OWU2MzFiOWJmNDE=

Or Andrew Breitbart:

http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2010/04/14/im-proud-to-be-a-tea-bagger/

Some Tea Party people started this by saying they were "teabagging" the White House and Washington DC. A person who "teabags" would be a "teabagger" just as a person who "drives" is a "driver".

Gotta say, the Tea Party did totally bring the "teabagger" thing on themselves.

Really like what you are saying, Calvn. While politics are knocking at the door, people are still sick. My dear sister stopped giving to Komen before she died of breast cancer --- she said, "I'm still sick! Where's the cure????" Komen began with terrific intent, and a sad and inspiring story. But, something got lost along the way. The money should be HELPING not HINDERING. Find a good, solid organization that needs the money and start helping.

So true, Calvin. Breast cancer has struck in each of the last 4 generations of my family, killing all who have been diagnosed with it--including my mother. No longer will I donate to Komen--instead, I will donate to my local American Cancer Society branch.

Komen has damaged their reputation by doing this--I don't see them recovering from it. I also emailed Komen and let them know what I thought of them doing this.

It's true. Breast cancer awareness? Who doesn't know about breast cancer at this point? Better to donate money to organizations that either actively help people with or at risk of breast cancer, or people who are researching a cure.

Korman Foundation, American Cancer Society, and others have only recently branched out into including less common, but many times more deadly, forms of breast cancer in their information.

I thought I was informed, did mammograms, self-checks, yearly well-women check-ups. My guess is 99+% of the people writing in here are as ignorant as I was one month ago. I am now in the 1 to 5% of breast cancer patients with a form of breast cancer that has no lump and does not show on mammograms because the cancer forms in sheets or nests rather than a distinct mass.

Do you know the other symptoms of breast cancer besides a lump? If you don't, learn them for yourself or the women in your life. Most breast cancers today have a 90% 5 year survival rate, much of it due to early diagnosis. The rarer forms that are not picked up on mammograms only have a 40% survival rate.

Korman, the American Cancer Society, and the medical community have indeed done an excellant job of educating women about 95% of breast cancers. But, as I just found out, there are other breast cancers, such as IBC, which have a different set of symptoms and are much more deadly. And education about them is just barely beginning.

But if you don't donate, aren't you taking away health care from women too?

no there are other organizations that support women's health - go to charity navigator.com= SGK has made a stupid decision and their race for the cure will get smaller and smaller from this point on and their mission has been damaged - can't repair that=

SADLY~~~theres a place called HEALTH DEPARTMENT in every county/city in our nation that is a STATE run HEALTH program for anyone in need that lives there!!!!! SADLY ~~~ our state taxes are already paying for this , so why dont YOU know about it? BECAUSE ALL YOU KNOW IS WHAT THE PRESS OF THE MOMENT TELLS YOU~~ THATS SAD~PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN A JOKE~~SADLY!

Komen doesn't do actually health programs, just awareness.

Planned Parenthood screened 170,000 women for breast cancer in the six years of its partnership with Komen. Presumably those women made the decision to go with Planned Parenthood rather than the Health Department; a decision you as a taxpayer should be happy with. What a pity Komen has decided to rescind this support. Clearly political correctness matters more to them than rather or not poor women get cancer. If Komen thinks only middle class or rich women deserve not to get cancer. than count me out. My money will go to Planned Parenthood. ( I'm a liberal by the way. Sorry to burst your bubble; liberals donate money as well as conservatives).

According to Komen, this applies to Planned Parenthood because it’s the focus of an inquiry launched by Rep. Cliff Stearns, R-Fla., seeking to determine whether public money was improperly spent on abortions.

(From Washington Post, linked by Planned Parenthood on FB)

I wonder how much taxpayer money Stearns and the teapubs are wasting on that? They don't seem to have a problem spending money on bull@!$%# to deny women care and privacy.

OMG!!! Don't say out loud that the GOP is spending money, they are for LESS Government!!!!!

We are for less govt. That is why cutting funds to PP would benefit us. They are govt. funded. If you want to have sex, pay for your own condoms and birth control and your own abortions. Why should I have to use my tax dollars to fund your libido?

So, now that there has been a recall on millions of birth control pills and many women who could not afford and cannot afford to have a child what are they to do? Is Pfizer going to pay for their children? Are taxpayers going to be paying for those "blessed"? NO! Instead, responsible women (like myself) who found themselves pregnant will have to make a decision. You see, this is what will happen if we DON'T have birth control. To me this decison will only hurt those women already suffering from being uninsured or underinsured (I have insurance but the deductible is so high it makes it ineffective) all over the country. So now what religious zealots? RESPONSIBLE WOMEN will end up pregnant due to this recall....will YOU be adopting their children? AFTER ALL THEY WERE BEING RESPONSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

This is not about Pfizer but about planned parenthood. Maybe you are on too many hormones, not to know the difference. And you all know the risk that birth control has a chance of being ineffective.

Thank you, Ferrferr. Always nice to have some facts in the middle of all this rhetoric.

I will start giving to Komen, because of their decision. Everybody has an opinion!

Indeed, that is your choice. Choice, of course, being what you would deny women who seek abortions.

While you may make a dubious claim of being a history teacher, it's very clear that you flunked science.

History teacher my hind leg - more like right wing nut job.

How's the whacko mumbo jumbo religous Creationism teaching going? Keeping the kids good and stupid so they vote Repuke? niiiiiice.

No, this is a true history teacher. In Texas, Kansas, Kentucky, Utah or any of the other Theocratic States of the Confederacy.

I'd like to know where you teach history, so I can make sure to never send my children there.

Please tell me you don't teach in California. No wonder the education in this country is going down the crapper.

Sorry guys and gals, as much as I hate to admit it, History Teacher is correct about the founder of PP, Margaret Sanger. She was a RACIST and eugenicist, and had a plan for wiping out the AA community in America using Birth Control and Abortion, as population control. It's easy, just Google it. I watched several History and Discovery Channel programs about it also.

Liberals are alway screaming about the "white-washing" of American history until it comes to one of their "saints". Oh, but that's not true today. Oh, really?? Over 90% of PP offices and clinics are in minority communities. Over 85% of those that receive services from PP are minorities. Over 75% of abortions performed by PP are on minority women. The numbers of "low-income"/poor women that are "minorities" or are "Non-Hispanic white" are approximately equal according to 2010 census data. What does that tell you, or are you in denial??

Sanger, good grief. She died in 1966, people. That would be 56 years ago. Guess what? Things have moved on. I guess the reason anti-abortion people always are talking about her is that they can't find anyone more recent to vilify.

htdjpf, (good by the way to find someone with a screen name even less imaginative than my own!), I'd like to see a link to your claim about Planned Parenthood abortion demographics, preferably from a neutral site rather than an antiabortion one.

The numbers of "low-income"/poor women that are "minorities" or are "Non-Hispanic white" are approximately equal according to 2010 census data. What does that tell you, or are you in denial??

To be honest, I'm not sure what you are getting at here at all.

Like what?

Like Breitbart's fingerprints?

Like whatever Fox "news", Beck, and Rush tell people about Planned Parenthood.

The holy trinity.

Funny how when someone asks people like June to provide supporting evidence, they mysteriously never post again. Either there's a giant conspiracy that's killing them... Or they have absolutely nothing to back up their words and don't want to admit it publicly. I think I know the more likely conclusion...

I think they are embarrassed that their only sources are the bible and Fox News.

Yea. Let's not use the Bible as a source!!Heaven forbid!(sarcasm intended) It's just the most historically factual book ever written! Just ask me for fats, PLEASE!!!

I am so sick of people spouting the same crap regarding "who will the poor women turn to when they are forced to have these babies, who will adopt them, etc.." How about a moral choice not to have kids in the first place. How about using Birth control, instead of abortion on demand. Another poster stated to another that because they were male,. they didn't have a horse in the race so why complain. How about that sad little fact that is completely washed over and never considered in the entirety of the abortion discussion. Why is it only the woman's right?. A woman cannot conceive without a man's participation, I'm talking in the normal sense not in the twisted minds of the Test tube freak feminists who spout the same old, Women don't need a man blah blah blah. In a real time situation, why isn't the man's(fathers) rights taken into account at all?. A woman wants to keep a child, the man has no say. A woman wants to abort the child, the man has no say. Who determined that an equal 50% partner in contraception has 0% say in anything that happens after fertilization?. This horseshat about a woman carries it and it's her body so she gets to make all the decisions is BS. Men have been short changed on this right since Roe was enacted into law. Men have been marginalized on this topic so it's no wonder a lot of men have an opinion one way or the other. Abortions should be done privately and at the expense of the parties involved in creating the offspring. I guess this means that the poor really need to think smarter when it comes to birth control.

That's your opinion!!!!

Well Dom...If the guys who have unprotected sex want to raise a kid, then I say go for it! But don't expect the mother to have to pay child support or even be involved with the kid. It works both ways.

@truthman...you mean the bible is the biggest LIE ever told and biggest book of Bronze Aged Goat Herder's Fairytales ever sold. Get your FACTS straight.

Chugged the right wing koolaid didja?

Fantasy, nothing more.

please prove your claim....let's actually do some fact checking (new concept?). Yes the question has been raised, however, sit down and read the research before you start joining the Chicken Little "Sky is Falling" club.....typical, ill informed

The Canadian Cancer Society’s perspective

At the present time, the body of scientific evidence does not support an association between abortion and increased breast cancer risk.

The Canadian Cancer Society’s perspective

At the present time, the body of scientific evidence does not support an association between abortion and increased breast cancer risk.

Per the Canadian Cancer Society..."At the present time, the body of scientific evidence DOES NOT support an association between abortion and increased breast cancer rist"

Read more: http://www.cancer.ca/canada-wide/about%20us/cw-our%20positions%20and%20perspectives/abortion%20and%20breast%20cancer.aspx?sc_lang=en#ixzz1l4kzT2xz

and here is another article.....your claims CANNOT be proven by respectable cancer research organizations, please tell us where you got your information so that we can all make as informed a decision as you ...

http://www.cancer.org/Cancer/BreastCancer/MoreInformation/is-abortion-linked-to-breast-cancer

JC, No they are not. That is a lie propagated by the Religious fanatics and misogynistic element. The claim is that the termination of a pregnancy with the resultant drop in hormone levels causes more susceptibility to breast cancer ... the only problem with this argument is that ANY termination of a pregnancy - including miscarriage and BIRTH - has the same drop in hormones. So are you going to claim that miscarriage and birth cause breast cancer, now?

Another religious school dropout opinion based on reading too much Michelle Malkin.

Correlation does not mean causation. Yes, a tenuous correlation exists between the two groups, woman who have had abortions and women with breast cancer. But not one iota of evidence points to the causation because none has been looked for.

But then, science, intelligence, facts and reality have nothing to do with people like you when hating people because they don't pay to your church is all that matters.

JC is a classic example of what failed home school looks like.

Actually did a program on it. Was on the film crew who interviewed and followed a woman who had multiple abortions at a young age and harsh (to put it mildly) upbringing. Then interviewed a OB/GYN who couldn't care less on the subject of abortion but did have a desire to research the possible link. What she found was troubling to say the least, and stood up to peer review. I'll look that up and provide a link.

And yes Dina, it seems to be in part to hormone levels and what the breast tissue goes through when initially pregnant and then not. The longer the pregnancy and more the breast and ducts change as hormones prep for birth the stronger the link. A link is not proof mind you, just as you cannot prove smoking causes cancer of the lungs. Clearly that's an extreme example but you get the idea. Links are how the medical community at large base findings on when researching, most of which while never 100% accurate (a life long 3 pack a day smoker lives to 95 cancer-free), but trend one way or another through repeated study. Repeated studies are key here, I agree there are not enough studies out there to make a definite conclusion but in my opinion I think there is cause for further study.

I never stated I could prove anything. And no KoolAid for me. After watching this woman die after a 6 year battle with breast cancer due to what I believe is a link to her abortions in the past, as well as following other threads of women who also believe the link with their own breast cancer, I am posting my opinion. Just as are others.

So back off. Those who get angry and paint me as a religious zealot not only show their own ignorance but a clear disregard for what a blog represents (not a place to jump on others personally for differing opinions). What does religion have to do with this in the first place daryl? You, not I are clearly the school dropout. Sally, really? I appreciate your painting me as a young adult but I'm sadly much too old for the home school movement. My kids and I enjoyed public school to the fullest however. And college too.

Dina I appreciate your posting links and asking/talking facts. Cat, I appreciate your opinion as well. That's normal, adult responses.

One more thing, I'm sadly not surprised at the backlash from the emotional angle. People, at the end of the day it just didn't make sense. Komen has and will do 1000 times more for cancer research than PP, PP does not do that. So what's the big deal? Komen clearly is all for breast cancer screenings. Less than 5% of PP business is breast screenings. They are family planning. Few offer any type of breast screenings. Look that up too. Why would Komen give to that organization, or any other org. that is not aligned closely to it's mission to end breast cancer as we know it?

Regardless, I for one will continue to give to Komen as I have numerous friends who have either had breast cancer or lost a loved one from it. I would never pull my money for such important research!

Dina - here's quick google link, stayed away from the obvious pro-life sites that claim this and found this reported from the Daily Mail (paper in UK) Don't laugh - please? Just read it and read some comments as they seem rather civil and educated. I Will still look for my specific case but again it was a story 6 years ago.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1288955/Abortion-triple-risk-breast-cancer.html

A British right-wing tabloid is your peer-reviewed evidence?

JCnation, the Dailymail is the UKs equivalent to the National Enquirer or the Sun. You aren't helping your cause.

JC ... here is some PEER REVIEWED information as well as abstracts based on peer-reviewed studies that show that there is NO causation. Note that I have deliberately NOT included any of the news organizations or any website that takes a position of pro-choice vs pro-"life". These are simply health and cancer websites.

http://www.cancer.org/Cancer/BreastCancer/MoreInformation/is-abortion-linked-to-breast-cancer

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/abortion-miscarriage

http://www.webmd.com/breast-cancer/news/20040325/study-dispels-abortion-breast-cancer-link

http://www.breastcancerdeadline2020.org/know/assets/documents/abortion-and-breast-cancer.pdf

http://www.everydayhealth.com/breast-cancer/preventing/hensley/abortion-breast-cancer-link.aspx

Again, the theory that many pro-life sites posit for a connection is the sudden drop in hormones caused by an abortion. But miscarriage and birth have the exact same drop in hormones. Trust me ... I've HAD more than one miscarriage, one abortion back in 2000 (the circumstances are such that a) I had a birth control failure, 2) was in an abusive relationship, 3) had no health insurance but didn't qualify for low-cost pre-natal care and 4) I reviewed all my options and made the best CHOICE I could) and have a 5 year old son. So I've been in each situation.

According to JCNation's evidence, Michelle Duggar should have died of breast cancer well before number 19 popped-out.

Why?

Personally, I find what Planned Parenhood does repugnant and would never donate to them anyway. While I do agree that abortion should be legal, no person should be forced to give to a cause they do not believe in. This is also why I object to Planned Parenthood receiving government funding - they are supposed to be a charitable organization, not a government funded organization

You find breast cancer screening repugnant?

You find government funding of breast cancer screening (and not abortions) repugnant?

PP only does 5% breast cancer screenings. Hardly commendable!

The 5% must be from one clinic because I'm not aware of any that do mammograms. I suggest those of you so upset about this call your local PP and ask if they do mammograms.

What is dishonest is to claim one of the major functions if PP is "breast cancer screening".

Now that's a bit harsh ...

they do contribute a portion of their fundraising to research.

<<sigh>>

I agree with shootout!

That sums it up quite nicely. Well said.

I never thought I'd see the day where the anti-abortion movement would attempt to use breast cancer as a weapon. Even after all the violence and intimidation, I never thought I'd see them sink that low.

How is anyone using breast cancer as a weapon? Planned Parenthood doesn't do mammograms. There may be a PP clinic somewhere that does, but "breast cancer screenings" aren't what PP does.

Sinking low? Where do you place killing babies?

They haven't killed a single baby in their entire existence, TS. Not a single one. Nice try, kiddo.

If that helps you sleep better at night so be it. Keep thinking it isn't real until it comes out of a person. Just ignore all the kickings and movement in your belly hon, that's just gas? (sarcasm)

But it's not a baby, it's a fetus. Thus, it is not a separate entity in any legal or physiological sense.

Now if you're done trying to change the subject, perhaps you can justify using breast cancer as a weapon to try to take away a basic civil right?

@Toasty

But it's not a baby, it's a fetus. Thus, it is not a separate entity in any legal or physiological sense

Just a quick question, If someone shoots a pregnant female killing her, How many murder charges do they get? Can't have it both ways. A rose by any other name is still a rose, fetus, embryo, zygote, CHILD.

Toasty you have to quit using that quote, No one really believes it's not a child, they just want to symantically make an excuse for what they have done. Those who have abortions, own their action. Is it really that hard to understand? Dead is dead, one cell or 256 million.

Of course this topic closed a few days after KOMEN changed their minds, and decided to continue their grants to PP. Either way, let's strike out CANCER and start bringing the CURE HOME.

There's only one murder charge.

GOP/TP want government out of business so people can rob and screw each other without interference, but they at the same time demand that our secular government become an extreme right wing John Birch Society type Christian Theocracy on all social issues.

Because nothing says "limited government" like an armed police officer in every hospital room forcing at gunpoint every woman in America to come to term with their pregnancies.

There is a leap in logic. How does one group ending funding to PP, change anything? If you are so concerned donate to PP.

Less goverment unless we're talking about your uterus. Hypocrisy.

I do donate to PP. I know enough regarding the history to throw caution to the wind when it comes to women's rights and what happens when they lose those rights.

If a person is raped - that is not their fault and should society should not put the burden of that on a woman. So if you are asking me to accept that a woman come to terms with that, I cannot. I cannot with all of my heart think that a women must endure the emotional and physical damage that type of issue may cause.

Again, sad is the fact that pressure from money is involved and political agendas affect women's health and rights

One small example you give. How about the lazy lay ontheir backs who think nothing of sleeping with the neighborhood and want it handled with a quick easy abortion so they can continue the good times?. Abortion should only be legal for rapes, Incest and for possible harm to the mother if brought to full term. Abortion should not be legal for "Whoops, i made a mistake with that guy. Or I forgot to take my pill, Or Waking up not knowing where they are or how they got there or who they slept with that night.

@Dom:

"Abortion should only be legal for rapes, Incest and for possible harm to the mother if brought to full term."

Catholic Church and most other Christian churches don't agree with you on that.

Looks like you're not a true Christian.

The scary thing is that just ten years ago, the idea of banning abortion for incest, rape, or the life of the mother was considered unconscionable. Now it's commonplace for these groups to even oppose it in the case of rape and incest, leaving only the mother's life legal.

Just imagine where the anti-abortion movement will go in another ten years.

Did you ever give anything in the first place?

Probably not, just like most of the whiners on here.

Actually when I told mother, she decided that she would not support them anymore. Mind you, it was one of only three she does supports regularly. The other two are St. Jude's and Easter Seals.

Tammy-311614

You do not know me, therefore I would appreciate you not presuming to know what organizations I donate to. My daughter had cancer, so I do support cancer research. But my donations will no longer support this particular organization.

As for the "whiner" comment....you are whining because I dare to express an opinion on what I do with the money I budget for charitable donations each year. MYODOB. What do you give every year? Care to itemize?

As of 2/19/12 I will be a 10 year BRCA survivor. I love all of you who will continue to support planned parenthood and not support SGK. I can't thank you guys enough. PP helped me out so much.

I agree - regarding both Komen and Lowe's. I also stopped shopping at Lowe's and Komen gets not one penny more from me.

Planned Parenthood DOESN'T do mammograms, so why are you upset with them?

The Komen Foundation is a money-hungry media whore, at best. A minimum $1500 sponsorship donation to participate in one of their walks??? Oh, please!

I think I'll be doing what one of the comments below states, sending my donations directly to Planned Parenthood.

So how much is PP getting in govt. funds? Is it more than the $ 1500 dollar sponsorship?

And yet there is a place in pro-choice for birth! ... If you CHOOSE to continue with the gestation, you will get a child. Thing is it is YOUR CHOICE.

The so called pro-lifers only want to force you to give birth without the thought of what the life wil be like for the mother or child.

Pro-choice necessarily means denying choice to the unborn woman about her reproductive life.

Thank you Gail! ProChoice means you have a right to privately weigh all of the safe options available to a woman. Taking away a woman's right to choose is dangerous. Planned Parenthood helps deliver lots of babies as well should a woman choose to continue her pregnancy. Planned Parenthood helped some of my friends GET pregnant. People are so ignorant. They want only their opinions heard but rudely deny others that same right. Oh they must be too busy working at the homeless shelters feeding the hungry, ill-educated children born to those women they would deny the choice. That's right.

No, it doesn't. Because why should anyone get a choice about whether they can use someone else's life for their gain. The only choice is on behalf of the LIVING woman who can choose to link her life to help any other or not.

Otherwise, next time someone needs a kidney and you are a match, I'll just force you to give it up after all... it's their choice whether or not to take your organs right?

1) An unborn child is not a kidney. You can't use it for a comparison. 2) If you are pro choice then you favor abortion. Why? because you agree a woman has a right to choose to abort. A woman can't be a little bit pregnant. Either you are or you aren't. 3) Planned Parenthood was formed by Margret Sanger whose goal was to get rid of people she deemed undesirable before birth, Mainly Blacks and Jews. 4) Life starts at conception. If it isn't alive, then it can't be born alive. Our courts acknowledge that. They just say it is not a viable life form until the pregnancy is about 6 months. If you don't believe me, then research it for yourself. If you have a predisposed opinion, then you never will seek the truth. That's why I check things out first, because truth is what is really important not opinion based on I said so.

"All of life's problems can be attributed to the overpopulation of the lower class."

VERY good, Al - well put.

also noted that, once again, so many people relate 'anti-abortion' to "Republicans" -- would have to say that almost All of the Democrats I know are Catholic and are all totally AGAINST abortion. People need to quit trying to make that political.

And I learned just today that a woman # 2, who was tutored under Sanger was hired by, guess who?... Adolph Hitler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who'd a thought,DUHHHHHHHHHHH! NO SOUP FOR YOU DEMTARDS!!!!!

True, at the time of most abortion, the fetus/embyro doesn't even HAVE KIDNEYS... and the umbilical can be likened to a kidney or heart rather because without a heart one doesn't live. So how about this. I refuse to have something attached to me t hat I have desire for. I don't want an umbilical. If it can live without it then fine otherwise it's my choice.

I agree. Not another dime to anything remotely connected to Koman.

It's sad, too. It used to be a respected organization. Unfortunate that they let it become the disgrace we see today.

Yes the respected (and reputable) organization has looked at the facts, the sonograms and the breast cancer rate that has increased substantially with the incidence of abortion.